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CaptainAmerica
08-31-2004, 09:55 AM
...Ok, look, I've been as high on Henson as anyone, based on all these glowing reports, but...I just don't see what everyone is so hyped about. First of all, I know he settled down and played better, but he just doesn't look that good back there. He certainly doesn't look like a guy that was going to be picked #1 in the draft. His arm strength looks good, but by no means on the Favre, Elway or even Aikman level. His release definitely needs work and he needs to relax and stop aiming the ball.

All in all he did not exude confidence last night and frankly looked like he was a little intimidated by the big stage. I hope it was just a jittery start and he will settle into the role and become our franchise qb.

I'm pulling for him, but I'm not one to buy into a player until he shows those special qualities we all want to see.

chinch
08-31-2004, 10:04 AM
did you ever see Favre play with Atlanta?

dbair1967
08-31-2004, 10:08 AM
...Ok, look, I've been as high on Henson as anyone, based on all these glowing reports, but...I just don't see what everyone is so hyped about. First of all, I know he settled down and played better, but he just doesn't look that good back there. He certainly doesn't look like a guy that was going to be picked #1 in the draft. His arm strength looks good, but by no means on the Favre, Elway or even Aikman level. His release definitely needs work and he needs to relax and stop aiming the ball.

All in all he did not exude confidence last night and frankly looked like he was a little intimidated by the big stage. I hope it was just a jittery start and he will settle into the role and become our franchise qb.

I'm pulling for him, but I'm not one to buy into a player until he shows those special qualities we all want to see.

Well of course he needs work, but if you've seen all 3 games and can honestly sit there and say you dont see what there is to get excited about then your not seeing what everyone else is...

he did throw a couple of nervous looking passes to start last night, then played exceptionally well...he makes good decisions, can read his progressions and make all the throws...he has the athletic ability to move around if needed and has a great work ethic by all accounts...while everyone continues to look at his release, I'd point out he hasnt had a single ball knocked down...nor do I recall him having that problem at Michigan...as long as he throws the ball where its supposed to go and with the velocity he throws it with, I have no problem with his release

Since he didnt enter the draft after his JR or SR yrs, nobody will know exactly where he would have been drafted at...all we can go by is whats been told to us, Joel Buschbaum said he polled 10 GM/personnel people and 7 of them said they'd have taken Henson over Vick in the 2001 draft...Jim Garrett said Henson is the best QB prospect he's scouted since Aikman, who carried one of the highest grades ever coming into the draft...those are pretty strong indictments

David

crazylegs
08-31-2004, 10:09 AM
...Ok, look, I've been as high on Henson as anyone, based on all these glowing reports, but...I just don't see what everyone is so hyped about. First of all, I know he settled down and played better, but he just doesn't look that good back there. He certainly doesn't look like a guy that was going to be picked #1 in the draft. His arm strength looks good, but by no means on the Favre, Elway or even Aikman level. His release definitely needs work and he needs to relax and stop aiming the ball.

All in all he did not exude confidence last night and frankly looked like he was a little intimidated by the big stage. I hope it was just a jittery start and he will settle into the role and become our franchise qb.

I'm pulling for him, but I'm not one to buy into a player until he shows those special qualities we all want to see.

I hate to fall into the same Henderson trap, but hopefully he has a better bases to build off of then the maxed-outed QC.

Give him some time, (ouch that hurt) maybe he'll pan out to something average. :confused:

MichaelWinicki
08-31-2004, 10:10 AM
Well of course he needs work, but if you've seen all 3 games and can honestly sit there and say you dont see what there is to get excited about then your not seeing what everyone else is...

he did throw a couple of nervous looking passes to start last night, then played exceptionally well...he makes good decisions, can read his progressions and make all the throws...he has the athletic ability to move around if needed and has a great work ethic by all accounts...while everyone continues to look at his release, I'd point out he hasnt had a single ball knocked down...nor do I recall him having that problem at Michigan...as long as he throws the ball where its supposed to go and with the velocity he throws it with, I have no problem with his release

Since he didnt enter the draft after his JR or SR yrs, nobody will know exactly where he would have been drafted at...all we can go by is whats been told to us, Joel Buschbaum said he polled 10 GM/personnel people and 7 of them said they'd have taken Henson over Vick in the 2001 draft...Jim Garrett said Henson is the best QB prospect he's scouted since Aikman, who carried one of the highest grades ever coming into the draft...those are pretty strong indictments

David


But David admit it...

You hated Quincy. :D

AdamJT13
08-31-2004, 10:21 AM
Does Eli Manning look like a guy who was drafted No. 1 overall? How about Phillip Rivers?

Face it, any rookie quarterback is going to look like A ROOKIE in his ifrst preseason. Henson has looked like a rookie -- but he certainly hasn't looked like a rookie who hasn't played in more than three years, and he definitely looks like a rookie with the potential to be a quality starter.

Mike 1967
08-31-2004, 10:24 AM
...Ok, look, I've been as high on Henson as anyone, based on all these glowing reports, but...I just don't see what everyone is so hyped about. First of all, I know he settled down and played better, but he just doesn't look that good back there. He certainly doesn't look like a guy that was going to be picked #1 in the draft. His arm strength looks good, but by no means on the Favre, Elway or even Aikman level. His release definitely needs work and he needs to relax and stop aiming the ball.

All in all he did not exude confidence last night and frankly looked like he was a little intimidated by the big stage. I hope it was just a jittery start and he will settle into the role and become our franchise qb.

I'm pulling for him, but I'm not one to buy into a player until he shows those special qualities we all want to see.

I thought last night was his worst showing so far. He started out very badly...but he did end up with decent numbers so at least he got better as the night wore on.

At this point I'm writting it off to first Home Game jitters.

He looked much sharper in games 1 and 2. He just finally showed some of the rust you would expect to see from a guy 3 years removed from the game.

At this point....I would not panic. 2 for 3 is not bad for a rookie. And he did finish well last night.

AMERICAS_FAN
08-31-2004, 10:29 AM
he did throw a couple of nervous looking passes to start last night, then played exceptionally well...he makes good decisions, can read his progressions and make all the throws...he has the athletic ability to move around if needed and has a great work ethic by all accounts.

For me, the observation above is the major point here. Henson is not out there figting for a stsarting job. He's out there to try and secure a backup role for this season. And I think he has done enough to show that can fill in as backup if needed. Can he elevate his game so that he can become the starter for next season and beyond? We don't know. But Hensen will have a whole season to work on that. If he improves than we have our starter for the future. If he does not then we at least have a solid backup for years to come, and we can always draft a potential future starter in next year's draft.

AF

LaTunaNostra
08-31-2004, 10:39 AM
Does Eli Manning look like a guy who was drafted No. 1 overall? How about Phillip Rivers?

Face it, any rookie quarterback is going to look like A ROOKIE in his ifrst preseason. Henson has looked like a rookie -- but he certainly hasn't looked like a rookie who hasn't played in more than three years, and he definitely looks like a rookie with the potential to be a quality starter.
Well said.

Considering the layoff, Drew is ahead of the curve. In fact, even if he were straight out of college, he looks ahead of the curve. But there is SO much to learn.

The hype to put him into the HOF is going to backlash. One "average" outing doesn't detract from his potential, just as Manning's performance against the Jets first team blitzes last week doesn't say anything about Eli's.

If folks just take the reasonable approach, it will be enjoyable watching Henson develop.

Doomsday101
08-31-2004, 10:41 AM
I see pleanty in Henson but I also relize he is not ready to be the #1 QB right now. I saw what Carter looked like coming right out of college, sorry Henson is much better than that despite the layoff.

Hot_Toddy
08-31-2004, 10:58 AM
First of all, I know he settled down and played better, but he just doesn't look that good back there. .

Feel free to disagree with me, but I think once Henson settled down, I thought he looked VERY good back there, just as he has all preseason. He may get the nerves of a rookie playing on Monday Night Football for the first time....But he certainly doesn't look like a deer in headlights. I think he looks very confident and in command after a few snaps. He has "it" IMO.

He certainly doesn't look like a guy that was going to be picked #1 in the draft.

Compare him to the #1 pick in the draft (stat wise anyway).

Drew Henson: 21-29 216 72.4% 0 tds 1 int
Eli Manning: 20-42 228 47.6% 0 tds 2 ints

Look at that percentage ratio....We struck gold IMO!!!

I'm pulling for him, but I'm not one to buy into a player until he shows those special qualities we all want to see.

O.K. this is only my opinion, but I see all of those special qualities. If I had an investment option, I would buy myself a ton of shares of "Drew Henson" stock.

CaptainAmerica
08-31-2004, 11:02 AM
...maybe some of you missed the point of my post. What I meant to point out was that I haven't seen all 3 games because I don't live in the Dallas area, all I've read are the reports on Henson, from his early scouting reports, the comments by Mueller and Ron Wolf, etc. From all that hype I expected to see a guy who fires the ball with velocity, looks confident in his throws and generally looks like a guy the GMs said they would take over Vick.

I well realize that any player takes time to learn the game at that level and we will have growing pains. I'm talking more about the way Henson carried himself and the way he threw the ball. Take Vick for example, yes he was as green as grass his first year and will look that way again this year as he begins a new system, but when he throws the ball, it looks like the throw of a top flight #1 NFL draft pick.

With all the hype about Henson for the past 7-8 years, I was expecting to see raw throwing skills similar to Aikman, Elway, Vick, etc. I'm not saying he won't be a great QB for us, I just didn't see those type of physical comparisons, certainly not a "clone of Aikman" as he was described. maybe it will come as he continues to play.

Mike 1967
08-31-2004, 11:05 AM
...maybe some of you missed the point of my post. What I meant to point out was that I haven't seen all 3 games because I don't live in the Dallas area, all I've read are the reports on Henson, from his early scouting reports, the comments by Mueller and Ron Wolf, etc. From all that hype I expected to see a guy who fires the ball with velocity, looks confident in his throws and generally looks like a guy the GMs said they would take over Vick.

I well realize that any player takes time to learn the game at that level and we will have growing pains. I'm talking more about the way Henson carried himself and the way he threw the ball. Take Vick for example, yes he was as green as grass his first year and will look that way again this year as he begins a new system, but when he throws the ball, it looks like the throw of a top flight #1 NFL draft pick.

With all the hype about Henson for the past 7-8 years, I was expecting to see raw throwing skills similar to Aikman, Elwy, Vick, etc. I'm not saying he won't be a great QB for us, I just didn't see those type of physical comparisons, certainly not a "clone of Aikman" as he was described. maybe it will come as he continues to play.

I got the impression that you did not see the first 2 games after reading your post.

I was actually thinking last night that those of you who did not have access to the first 2 games would get a bad read on Henson. Last night was Hensons worst showing out of the first 3 games. He seemed to be forcing the ball and there was not a lot of zip on his throws.

If last night was indicative of his prerformance game 1 and game 2 then I would have had quite a different opinion on Henson.

I'm writting it off to Home Field jitters. Especially since he did finish better than he started.

Doomsday101
08-31-2004, 11:06 AM
...maybe some of you missed the point of my post. What I meant to point out was that I haven't seen all 3 games because I don't live in the Dallas area, all I've read are the reports on Henson, from his early scouting reports, the comments by Mueller and Ron Wolf, etc. From all that hype I expected to see a guy who fires the ball with velocity, looks confident in his throws and generally looks like a guy the GMs said they would take over Vick.

I well realize that any player takes time to learn the game at that level and we will have growing pains. I'm talking more about the way Henson carried himself and the way he threw the ball. Take Vick for example, yes he was as green as grass his first year and will look that way again this year as he begins a new system, but when he throws the ball, it looks like the throw of a top flight #1 NFL draft pick.

With all the hype about Henson for the past 7-8 years, I was expecting to see raw throwing skills similar to Aikman, Elway, Vick, etc. I'm not saying he won't be a great QB for us, I just didn't see those type of physical comparisons, certainly not a "clone of Aikman" as he was described. maybe it will come as he continues to play.

That is they type of play I have been seeing from Henson and last nights game was not like he played bad and did lead the offense to a TD. I think his passing skills are just fine and once the game starts to slow down for him I think he will be the franchise QB this team has been looking for. As for Vick he is nothing but a RB playing the QB position take his legs away from him and the guy is nothing.

Reality
08-31-2004, 11:13 AM
...maybe some of you missed the point of my post. What I meant to point out was that I haven't seen all 3 games because I don't live in the Dallas area, all I've read are the reports on Henson, from his early scouting reports, the comments by Mueller and Ron Wolf, etc. From all that hype I expected to see a guy who fires the ball with velocity, looks confident in his throws and generally looks like a guy the GMs said they would take over Vick.

I well realize that any player takes time to learn the game at that level and we will have growing pains. I'm talking more about the way Henson carried himself and the way he threw the ball. Take Vick for example, yes he was as green as grass his first year and will look that way again this year as he begins a new system, but when he throws the ball, it looks like the throw of a top flight #1 NFL draft pick.

With all the hype about Henson for the past 7-8 years, I was expecting to see raw throwing skills similar to Aikman, Elway, Vick, etc. I'm not saying he won't be a great QB for us, I just didn't see those type of physical comparisons, certainly not a "clone of Aikman" as he was described. maybe it will come as he continues to play.
Honestly, I think the primary reason for the "Start Henson now!" statements have been just as much to do with Vinny's unimpressive performance as it has with Henson's surprising performance.

Vinny has started to knock the rust off a little more and is looking more and more like a solid bus-driver quarterback Parcells wants. I'm fairly certain that Vinny will start the season but if the team falls 2 games below .500 before or by mid-season, I suspect the rest of the season will be sacrificed in order to give Henson experience and give the coaches a preview of what they can expect next year. I'm pretty sure the Giants will do the same exact thing with Warner and Manning.

The one thing that impresses me is that Henson, while still a "rookie" based on experience, looks more sure of himself and confident than Quincy and Chad ever looked. Now, that's not saying much but from a fan's standpoint, it's nice to know we have someone who's flashed some real potential waiting to step in either later this season or next. For now, I'll support Vinny and hope he relives his 1998 season (I think that was his great one) and gets the Cowboys to the playoffs.

RCowboyFan
08-31-2004, 11:25 AM
...maybe some of you missed the point of my post. What I meant to point out was that I haven't seen all 3 games because I don't live in the Dallas area, all I've read are the reports on Henson, from his early scouting reports, the comments by Mueller and Ron Wolf, etc. From all that hype I expected to see a guy who fires the ball with velocity, looks confident in his throws and generally looks like a guy the GMs said they would take over Vick.

I well realize that any player takes time to learn the game at that level and we will have growing pains. I'm talking more about the way Henson carried himself and the way he threw the ball. Take Vick for example, yes he was as green as grass his first year and will look that way again this year as he begins a new system, but when he throws the ball, it looks like the throw of a top flight #1 NFL draft pick.

With all the hype about Henson for the past 7-8 years, I was expecting to see raw throwing skills similar to Aikman, Elway, Vick, etc. I'm not saying he won't be a great QB for us, I just didn't see those type of physical comparisons, certainly not a "clone of Aikman" as he was described. maybe it will come as he continues to play.

When did Vick show great passing skills in NFL till now? His completion percentage till now is just above 52% I believe.

And that is the raw throwing skills you are looking at? Sorry no offense, don't buy into hype of Vick. He is a great athlete, pretending to be a QB. He has a Cannon of arm, but that doesn't mean he has great throwing skills, i.e. in throwing to WR etc. I have yet to see his "Great Throwing" skills. Heck Matt Schaub seemed much better at throwing then Vick this preseason.

He always had problems in College throwing the long ball, and seems like that is still his problem. He does well on intermidiate range, but even that is pretty suspect.

Well if you are not impressed with HEnson throwing skills then you must not be impressed with any of Top picks this year at all. Other than First two throws, which does seem like MNF jitters for a rookie, he was very good.

Just because he didn't run for 30 yards or didn't have like 60 yard TD pass, doesn't mean he wasn't good in this game.

And you have a tape of Aikman in his rookie season to compare him to Henson? Not trying to accuse you of anything etc. but just asking how you have compared Henson to Aikman? During later years or years of Aikman as Rookie?

Anyway, when Ron Wolf etc. are praising him, it doesn't mean, he is ready to be Canton. I think some might be thinking he should be all set to start Day one. I doubt Even Marino looked flawless his rookie season in pre-season.

Hot_Toddy
08-31-2004, 11:29 AM
...maybe some of you missed the point of my post. What I meant to point out was that I haven't seen all 3 games because I don't live in the Dallas area, all I've read are the reports on Henson, from his early scouting reports, the comments by Mueller and Ron Wolf, etc. From all that hype I expected to see a guy who fires the ball with velocity, looks confident in his throws and generally looks like a guy the GMs said they would take over Vick.

I well realize that any player takes time to learn the game at that level and we will have growing pains. I'm talking more about the way Henson carried himself and the way he threw the ball. Take Vick for example, yes he was as green as grass his first year and will look that way again this year as he begins a new system, but when he throws the ball, it looks like the throw of a top flight #1 NFL draft pick.

With all the hype about Henson for the past 7-8 years, I was expecting to see raw throwing skills similar to Aikman, Elway, Vick, etc. I'm not saying he won't be a great QB for us, I just didn't see those type of physical comparisons, certainly not a "clone of Aikman" as he was described. maybe it will come as he continues to play.

It's safe to say that his raw throwing skills looked only average last night. But, trust me, if you would have seen the 1st 2 games, you would see the raw ability and the way he carries himself. On top of that, his mechanics are already improving dramatically since the 1st game. Henson learns fast....REAL fast.

I attribute his "huddle presence" last night to his first game in front of a live national audience. But the thing to note, is he didn't panic and finished stronger. Quite similar to Aikman in Super Bowl XXVII....Remember how many floaters Aikman threw at the beginning of that game? Remember how Aikman looked lost for the 1st couple of series? And lastly, do you remember how Aikman finished that game out? It's the same with Henson, granted we're talking about a Monday Night preseason game compared to a SuperBowl, but nerves do set in, with the best of 'em.

It's how Henson got more comfotable with each rep. He only had 9 reps and had he gotten more, I think you would have seen "it". That being said he did complete 66% of his passes last night. But if you would have seen the first 2 games you would have seen that "raw" ability and command.

CaptainAmerica
08-31-2004, 11:31 AM
I got the impression that you did not see the first 2 games after reading your post.

I was actually thinking last night that those of you who did not have access to the first 2 games would get a bad read on Henson. Last night was Hensons worst showing out of the first 3 games. He seemed to be forcing the ball and there was not a lot of zip on his throws.

If last night was indicative of his prerformance game 1 and game 2 then I would have had quite a different opinion on Henson.

I'm writting it off to Home Field jitters. Especially since he did finish better than he started.

Thanks for that reply. That is what I was hoping to hear from someone who has seen him play all 3 games.

I have to believe he has those skills since he has received so much hype. He looked to me like a guy that was definitely pressing last night and not just relaxing and playing. I do agree he looked much better the last series and showed something of his skills.

Look I'm pulling for the guy. I want a franchise QB as bad as anyone and I was as jacked as anyone when we signed him. As a guy that follows high school recruiting, I've heard about him for years and I am excited we have him.

Madzo
08-31-2004, 11:44 AM
Henson played at home for the first time and it was a monday night game. Jitters are to be expected, what I did like about Henson was the way he conducted himself, he was nervous, made some bad throws early, but didn't make a stupid mistake, he stayed poised in the pocket. I am really sleeping better after what I saw from Vinny and the pass protection. If they keep this up, you will see Vinny in there for 16 games. And look at his stats 17 of 24 for 240 yards TD in the first half. Vanilla defense and back up CB's were a factor, but still pretty impresive. That being said hopefully Henson stands and watches from the sidelines and gets better for next year.

lspain1
08-31-2004, 11:49 AM
...Ok, look, I've been as high on Henson as anyone, based on all these glowing reports, but...I just don't see what everyone is so hyped about. First of all, I know he settled down and played better, but he just doesn't look that good back there. He certainly doesn't look like a guy that was going to be picked #1 in the draft. His arm strength looks good, but by no means on the Favre, Elway or even Aikman level. His release definitely needs work and he needs to relax and stop aiming the ball.

All in all he did not exude confidence last night and frankly looked like he was a little intimidated by the big stage. I hope it was just a jittery start and he will settle into the role and become our franchise qb.

I'm pulling for him, but I'm not one to buy into a player until he shows those special qualities we all want to see.


I've not seen a lot of people on this board state that Henson is ready to start for the Cowboys. I have seen people who say that the only way to get experience at the QB position is to play. Those folks say that bumps, bruises, and mistakes are inevitable and we should start getting them out of the way as soon as possible.

I've also seen statements that some of those inevitable mistakes CAN be prevented and a year with a clipboard would permit a rusty Henson to acclimatize to the NFL without the pressure.

I'm not sure based upon our recent experience with Carter and Hutchinson which school of thought is the most correct. My thinking goes along with the others on this board. If Vinnie stays healthy, he will start as long as the Cowboys are in a competitive race for the playoffs. If we fall out of contention (or Vinnie gets hurt) Henson will likely start.

blindzebra
08-31-2004, 11:59 AM
My take is he came out geeked up. His first 7 years Favre's first throw usually ended up in the tenth row, that is what we saw from Henson last night. The two throws to AB were "I'm too pumped up" throws.

His next throw he made an adjustment, but took too much off on the out to Crayton. He re-adjusted and gunned the next one to Ward.

Finally settled down he made a great fake and an athletic throw on the screen and had two great throws to Witten. The first was between defenders for a first down and the second was a great read of the zone blitz and a perfect throw down the seam.

He got better and made adjustments. Even though he had a few throws take off on him, he did not have happy feet, and he did not lose command of the huddle.

The kid's a keeper, there is no getting around that fact.

hogwild
08-31-2004, 12:20 PM
i for one will state Henson is ready to start.
will he make mistakes? hell yes , but he is a fast learner.

would it be better for him to sit and watch for a year?
that could be debated either side.

Henson is special.
JJ pulled the heist of the decade on this one.

with that being said
if VT can keep throwing like last nite
there is no need to rush Henson.
but i believe Henson will play this year
and perform at a very high level.

we have a few concerns on this team,but
QB is not one of them...barring injury of course

of course this is just my opinion.
by the way Quincy still sucks :D

Doomsday101
08-31-2004, 12:37 PM
i for one will state Henson is ready to start.
will he make mistakes? hell yes , but he is a fast learner.

would it be better for him to sit and watch for a year?
that could be debated either side.

Henson is special.
JJ pulled the heist of the decade on this one.

with that being said
if VT can keep throwing like last nite
there is no need to rush Henson.
but i believe Henson will play this year
and perform at a very high level.

we have a few concerns on this team,but
QB is not one of them...barring injury of course

of course this is just my opinion.
by the way Quincy still sucks :D

I would agree that it depends on how Vinny is playing. If Vinny is doing the job then Henson waits until next season, if Vinny fails or is injured then Henson will be the guy to take over and if he is playing good I could see a situation where Vinny would not regain the job. Right now though I think Vinny is the man this year.

SA_Gunslinger
08-31-2004, 01:24 PM
geeze, give this kid a chance!

i agree he's not ready yet....but damn...how much do you want him to show you in his third game back since being out of football for 3 years?

let's give him some time before we decide if he's good or a waste.

Tricky-22
08-31-2004, 01:51 PM
His arm strength looks good, but by no means on the Favre, Elway or even Aikman level. His release definitely needs work and he needs to relax and stop aiming the ball.

He made one throw in his second series, I believe that it was a third down pass that split two defenders for a first down, that was an absolute laser beam. Very few QB's in the league can make that throw.

dbair1967
08-31-2004, 01:56 PM
But David admit it...

You hated Quincy. :D

I honestly didnt hate him, but his play on the field was lousy and for that reason, I didnt like him as a starting QB here...I think he's in the role that fits him best now, as a backup

David

Eskimo
08-31-2004, 01:58 PM
[QUOTE=CaptainAmerica His arm strength looks good, but by no means on the Favre, Elway or even Aikman level.[/QUOTE]

When Henson wants to throw it, he has a rocket. If you can find Calico's highlights from the Texans game (posted here a couple of weeks ago), look at the pass he threw to Randall Williams. That should tell you everything you need to know about Henson's arm strength.

dbair1967
08-31-2004, 01:59 PM
...maybe some of you missed the point of my post. What I meant to point out was that I haven't seen all 3 games because I don't live in the Dallas area, all I've read are the reports on Henson, from his early scouting reports, the comments by Mueller and Ron Wolf, etc. From all that hype I expected to see a guy who fires the ball with velocity, looks confident in his throws and generally looks like a guy the GMs said they would take over Vick.

I well realize that any player takes time to learn the game at that level and we will have growing pains. I'm talking more about the way Henson carried himself and the way he threw the ball. Take Vick for example, yes he was as green as grass his first year and will look that way again this year as he begins a new system, but when he throws the ball, it looks like the throw of a top flight #1 NFL draft pick.

With all the hype about Henson for the past 7-8 years, I was expecting to see raw throwing skills similar to Aikman, Elway, Vick, etc. I'm not saying he won't be a great QB for us, I just didn't see those type of physical comparisons, certainly not a "clone of Aikman" as he was described. maybe it will come as he continues to play.

man what are you thinking? putting Michael "I dont need no practice" Vick in the same list with Aikman and Elway? Please, Vick cant throw it in the coean some weeks, let alone be worthy of mention with two of th alltime great passing QB's

David

MichaelWinicki
08-31-2004, 01:59 PM
I honestly didnt hate him, but his play on the field was lousy and for that reason, I didnt like him as a starting QB here...I think he's in the role that fits him best now, as a backup

David


Actually I didn't hate him either.

I just couldn't stomach the inconsistent play nor the constant, "See I'm such a leader" crap the Cowboy pr machine was trying to shove down our throats.

thor_01
08-31-2004, 03:13 PM
first of all thinking in any way shape or form that the way Henson performed last night was an indication of failure is completely moronic,

his accuracy (when he is not hyped over his first appearance on monday night football in front of an international audience) is beyond both aikman and elway (and i watched both their careers through out college and the pros) so far as compared to their first 3 preseason games it is uncomprehensible how you (who it is obvious has never seen the changes necessary to become a HOF quarterback, or actually watched either of these or any other HOF quarterback mature) can complain about Hensons performance,

and omg please tell me you are not in any way using qball as a barometer, because Henson is sa far above him and his abillities the only thing you can possibly compare in the two is the lack of interceptions Henson throws,

last night Testeverde was clocked at 47mph, i also know that aikman threw at approximately the same speed and elway about 50 mph, i assure you that Henson also throws in that 50 mph range so you are as wet on velocity and performance as your abillity to decide if Henson is a capable qb,

in conclusion try knowing what it takes to become a HOF qb, before you go judging what is not!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I dont know if Henson is going to be the next aikman, but i am damn sure he has the tools if he develops them and the best chance to succeed i have seen in a cowboy uniform in a long time.

SuspectCorner
09-01-2004, 12:31 AM
first of all thinking in any way shape or form that the way Henson performed last night was an indication of failure is completely moronic,

his accuracy (when he is not hyped over his first appearance on monday night football in front of an international audience) is beyond both aikman and elway (and i watched both their careers through out college and the pros) so far as compared to their first 3 preseason games it is uncomprehensible how you (who it is obvious has never seen the changes necessary to become a HOF quarterback, or actually watched either of these or any other HOF quarterback mature) can complain about Hensons performance,

and omg please tell me you are not in any way using qball as a barometer, because Henson is sa far above him and his abillities the only thing you can possibly compare in the two is the lack of interceptions Henson throws,

last night Testeverde was clocked at 47mph, i also know that aikman threw at approximately the same speed and elway about 50 mph, i assure you that Henson also throws in that 50 mph range so you are as wet on velocity and performance as your abillity to decide if Henson is a capable qb,

in conclusion try knowing what it takes to become a HOF qb, before you go judging what is not!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I dont know if Henson is going to be the next aikman, but i am damn sure he has the tools if he develops them and the best chance to succeed i have seen in a cowboy uniform in a long time.
i think it's kinda moronic to drag out ANY aikman or elway comparisons after 3 preseason games. in aikman's rookie year he got the $#&% knocked outta him pretty regularly. but he rarely had a game where he didn't knock your socks off with ample glimpses of his precise delivery. henson may become something special. last nite he started off "over-amped" and his first 3 or 4 passes sailed on him. i was worried he was gonna get bryant killed the way he was hanging him out. but he did settle down and that pass that split the double-team was a laser. as far as Q-ball as a barometer? puh-leez. carter is 3-years ahead of henson. if the team hadn't cut ties with carter henson would be the second-string... caddie that is. i know many of you were sold on henson the second the ink dried. but TRY to keep your toes on the ground. right now he is just a raw rookie QB with better than average arm and a lot to catch up on. starter! be careful what you wish for...