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gosuns
10-30-2006, 10:18 AM
As everyone knows by now Bledsoe won't be back as the backup QB in 2007. So where do we go for some backup help? Chris Sims will be a free agent after the season. Do you think he would sign with Dallas as a backup and is he even worth taking a look at to be the backup QB?

Dallas needs to aquire probably 2 and maybe 3 QB's in the off season with at least 1 of them having some real NFL experience. What direction do we go?

the kid 05
10-30-2006, 10:28 AM
i heard from this guy, who knows this one guy who used to date this one girl whos brother dated a secretary whos brothers uncles aunts father in-law twice removed who works for a garbage company over heard that we would bring back either quincy carter or chad hutchinson as the back up

fortdick
10-30-2006, 10:36 AM
Draft early!

CrazyCowboy
10-30-2006, 10:37 AM
He is on our team .....Baker--I am serious...they love his arm!

rysko
10-30-2006, 10:38 AM
lol qc, prolly pick some1 up in the draft.. if romo keeps playing good im guessin late

Unforgiven
10-30-2006, 10:45 AM
If we are really expecting to make a run, there is no way we go with Baker or a rookie QB as the backup.

You have to find a QB capable of running a similar play selection as Romo. Someone who can move a little.

I would say a player like a Ty Detmer or a Tim Hasselbeck. Maybe Greise, but I expect him to be looking for a starting opportunity.

Another good one would be Marcus Touisasasopo (whatever) from the Raiders. I don't know what his status is contractually.

Hostile
10-30-2006, 10:46 AM
As everyone knows by now Bledsoe won't be back as the backup QB in 2007. So where do we go for some backup help? Chris Sims will be a free agent after the season. Do you think he would sign with Dallas as a backup and is he even worth taking a look at to be the backup QB?

Dallas needs to aquire probably 2 and maybe 3 QB's in the off season with at least 1 of them having some real NFL experience. What direction do we go?I guess that would depend on if the Bucs think they found something in Gradkowski. If Parcells sticks around I suppose it wouldn't shock me.

I still think we will draft a QB on day 1. I agree with that because we cannot ever go through a drought like post Aikman. It's been horrible.

If we go the veteran QB route for a backup it wouldn't shock me to see someone like David Garrard brought in, though I think he might want his own starting gig.

A name not to forget (though I hate to utter it) is Jake Plummer who will likely move aside for Cutler in Denver.

NorthTexan95
10-30-2006, 10:50 AM
He is on our team .....Baker--I am serious...they love his arm!

Alright! We can get started early on the Baker - Romo quarterback controversey!

:)

4lifecowboy
10-30-2006, 10:52 AM
If Romo continues to manage the team the way he did last night, I don't see us taking a QB in the early rounds of the draft. It will be a vet to be the back up. Now if he falters then possible trade up.

Future
10-30-2006, 10:52 AM
although it will probably never happen...bledsoe should be able to command this team for a couple of games if romo goes down. I think he would be the best #2 we could find.

joseephuss
10-30-2006, 10:53 AM
I guess that would depend on if the Bucs think they found something in Gradkowski. If Parcells sticks around I suppose it wouldn't shock me.

I still think we will draft a QB on day 1. I agree with that because we cannot ever go through a drought like post Aikman. It's been horrible.

If we go the veteran QB route for a backup it wouldn't shock me to see someone like David Garrard brought in, though I think he might want his own starting gig.

A name not to forget (though I hate to utter it) is Jake Plummer who will likely move aside for Cutler in Denver.

Billy Volek will also be available as a veteran back up. Possibly Mark Brunell as well. :D

Hostile
10-30-2006, 10:53 AM
although it will probably never happen...bledsoe should be able to command this team for a couple of games if romo goes down. I think he would be the best #2 we could find.He won't stick around past the end of this season.

joseephuss
10-30-2006, 10:54 AM
although it will probably never happen...bledsoe should be able to command this team for a couple of games if romo goes down. I think he would be the best #2 we could find.

He won't want to go into next season as a #2 guy.

Unforgiven
10-30-2006, 10:55 AM
He won't want to go into next season as a #2 guy.

We cannot afford to pay him a 5 million dollar bonus to be a backup.

fortdick
10-30-2006, 10:56 AM
I guess that would depend on if the Bucs think they found something in Gradkowski. If Parcells sticks around I suppose it wouldn't shock me.

I still think we will draft a QB on day 1. I agree with that because we cannot ever go through a drought like post Aikman. It's been horrible.

If we go the veteran QB route for a backup it wouldn't shock me to see someone like David Garrard brought in, though I think he might want his own starting gig.

A name not to forget (though I hate to utter it) is Jake Plummer who will likely move aside for Cutler in Denver.

Hos, you grumpy ol' cuss, I have to agree with you again. If Romo continues to play like he did against Carolina, then we can take someone in the 2nd or 3rd. But a vet willing to sit and mentor Romo would be nice. Finding one that can play if needed and still willling to sit will be tough.

I say get draft someone with potential as the backup if Romo continues his good play. If he doesn't, trade up and get a blue chip prospect.

Hostile
10-30-2006, 10:57 AM
Hos, you grumpy ol' cuss, I have to agree with you again. If Romo continues to play like he did against Carolina, then we can take someone in the 2nd or 3rd. But a vet willing to sit and mentor Romo would be nice. Finding one that can play if needed and still willling to sit will be tough.

I say get draft someone with potential as the backup if Romo continues his good play. If he doesn't, trade up and get a blue chip prospect.My personal choice would be his idol Favre.

:grin:

iceberg
10-30-2006, 10:59 AM
If we are really expecting to make a run, there is no way we go with Baker or a rookie QB as the backup.

heh - but we've been going 3+ years "making a run" with romo and henson as our backups...

conner01
10-30-2006, 11:08 AM
gerrard and sims are not gonna sign on as backups to a young guy. gerrard would be better off with fat albert as he gets hurt alot. more like a volek type. vet with game experiense, young guys want to be starters.i know they like baker but look at romo and see how long it took him to be ready and you will see baker is not ready to be the backup on a good team.

fortdick
10-30-2006, 11:09 AM
My personal choice would be his idol Favre.

:grin:

We can only wish.

ghst187
10-30-2006, 11:38 AM
we HAVE to bring in TWO QBs next offseason even if Romo is the dude
1) have to have a decent vet who will agree to play backup
2) have to spend a top draft pick, if not trade up, to get a QB that is groomable to starter. I think we should go after the top pick and get Quinn even if Romo is the dude. He can sit for a few and compete. You can always trade one of them away when you decide and recoup those draft picks you gave up to get him. and we can use the FA money to help the OL (and replace Rivera for the love of all that is good). Even if its not Quinn, Ireland needs to find a first day QB that has REAL potential to be a starter.

REDVOLUTION
10-30-2006, 11:41 AM
Simms as our QB.... flippin' lefty QB's.... cant do nothing right
:lmao2:

fortdick
10-30-2006, 11:47 AM
Simms as our QB.... flippin' lefty QB's.... cant do nothing right
:lmao2:

Stabler and Young were okay, . . . . . . . for lefties.

Hostile
10-30-2006, 11:59 AM
Stabler and Young were okay, . . . . . . . for lefties.So was Zorn. Leinart is proving he's going to be good.

joseephuss
10-30-2006, 12:04 PM
So was Zorn. Leinart is proving he's going to be good.

Boomer Esiason was not too bad. He is better as a studio analyst. I usually don't watch pre-game shows, but I have caught the CBS post game shows. Now that they have JB, that isn't too bad a show to watch.

sf49rh8r
10-30-2006, 12:05 PM
we HAVE to bring in TWO QBs next offseason even if Romo is the dude
1) have to have a decent vet who will agree to play backup
2) have to spend a top draft pick, if not trade up, to get a QB that is groomable to starter. I think we should go after the top pick and get Quinn even if Romo is the dude. He can sit for a few and compete. You can always trade one of them away when you decide and recoup those draft picks you gave up to get him. and we can use the FA money to help the OL (and replace Rivera for the love of all that is good). Even if its not Quinn, Ireland needs to find a first day QB that has REAL potential to be a starter.


For the first time in a long time I have to admit that some of the ideas on this post are just beyond common sense. Guys like Simms, Plummer, Detmer and Brunell? Damn, I'd hate to go to war with these guys. They all stink and so far BP is batting about .500 on the offspring of former players. MBIII (thumbs up) Carpenter (thumbs down). And guys like Volek and Garrard are looking for starting gigs. Bleedslow will be gone and that is of his own doing. If Baker is the dude then he needs to be getting coached up now just in case something happens.

jazzcat22
10-30-2006, 12:06 PM
i heard from this guy, who knows this one guy who used to date this one girl whos brother dated a secretary whos brothers uncles aunts father in-law twice removed who works for a garbage company over heard that we would bring back either quincy carter or chad hutchinson as the back up

Drew Henson told you that? :lmao2:

Hostile
10-30-2006, 12:11 PM
Boomer Esiason was not too bad. He is better as a studio analyst. I usually don't watch pre-game shows, but I have caught the CBS post game shows. Now that they have JB, that isn't too bad a show to watch.I forgot he was a southpaw. Best ball fake along with DeBerg in the business.

burmafrd
10-30-2006, 12:30 PM
A vet should not be that hard to find. Keep the kid baker to slowly develope. I see no need to draft another QB if Romo is the man. He is only 26; we can get atleast 6 years out of him.

dogunwo
10-30-2006, 12:31 PM
we HAVE to bring in TWO QBs next offseason even if Romo is the dude
1) have to have a decent vet who will agree to play backup
2) have to spend a top draft pick, if not trade up, to get a QB that is groomable to starter. I think we should go after the top pick and get Quinn even if Romo is the dude. He can sit for a few and compete. You can always trade one of them away when you decide and recoup those draft picks you gave up to get him. and we can use the FA money to help the OL (and replace Rivera for the love of all that is good). Even if its not Quinn, Ireland needs to find a first day QB that has REAL potential to be a starter.
How much money do you want tied up in the QB position?

ghst187
10-30-2006, 01:18 PM
For the first time in a long time I have to admit that some of the ideas on this post are just beyond common sense. Guys like Simms, Plummer, Detmer and Brunell? Damn, I'd hate to go to war with these guys. They all stink and so far BP is batting about .500 on the offspring of former players. MBIII (thumbs up) Carpenter (thumbs down). And guys like Volek and Garrard are looking for starting gigs. Bleedslow will be gone and that is of his own doing. If Baker is the dude then he needs to be getting coached up now just in case something happens.

well, we could go into next season with Romo, Baker, and Crayton as the depth chart for the single most important position on the field...
Would you prefer that?
If Romo is the dude and we're committed to him, then we're not going to attract anyone that still thinks they are a starter (Griese, Simms, Plummer....).
I'm not (and I don't think BP will be) comfortable going into next season with a green starter, Baker, and a rookie as the QB depth.
I'm saying we have to bring in two QBs next offseason. I don't know who it will or should be, but preferrably I think we need one vet and one groomable rookie.
How much money should be tied into the QB position? Obviously more than we have spent for the last 10 years. The position has hamstrung us severely for a decade now and I'm ready to see us have some quality options there instead of continuing to gamble on penny stocks.

Dat Dude
10-30-2006, 01:28 PM
http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/816/bradyquinn4px.jpg

IndianaCowboyFan
10-30-2006, 01:36 PM
What about a kid like kyle Orton? I doubt the Bears will release or trade him though. He started several games and isn't a statue like Drew.

EPL0c0
10-30-2006, 02:01 PM
But David Carr was benched yesterday.

Could his time in Houston be up? I think Carr still has the potential to be a good QB, but has just never had the talent/coaching/support around to allow him to develop. He's been too busy avoiding blizters his entire career.

But this is a kid that averages more than 50sacks a season and doesn't complain. He doesn't b*tch to the media about his OLine or his coaches. He just goes out there and tries.

He'd be a solid backup w/ the potential for trade bait.

Dat Dude
10-30-2006, 04:58 PM
I wouldnt give a 6th round for Carr.. Especially when his throwing motion is similar to my wife's..

ABQCOWBOY
10-30-2006, 05:13 PM
But David Carr was benched yesterday.

Could his time in Houston be up? I think Carr still has the potential to be a good QB, but has just never had the talent/coaching/support around to allow him to develop. He's been too busy avoiding blizters his entire career.

But this is a kid that averages more than 50sacks a season and doesn't complain. He doesn't b*tch to the media about his OLine or his coaches. He just goes out there and tries.

He'd be a solid backup w/ the potential for trade bait.

No, Carr is still the starting QB for Houston. Kubiak once benched Young in SF because he said he needed to slow down and see what's going on. Same deal with Carr, according to reports. David Carr still has the 6th highest QB Rating in the league this season. I doubt he's going anywhere.

kartr
10-30-2006, 05:41 PM
well, we could go into next season with Romo, Baker, and Crayton as the depth chart for the single most important position on the field...
Would you prefer that?
If Romo is the dude and we're committed to him, then we're not going to attract anyone that still thinks they are a starter (Griese, Simms, Plummer....).
I'm not (and I don't think BP will be) comfortable going into next season with a green starter, Baker, and a rookie as the QB depth.
I'm saying we have to bring in two QBs next offseason. I don't know who it will or should be, but preferrably I think we need one vet and one groomable rookie.
How much money should be tied into the QB position? Obviously more than we have spent for the last 10 years. The position has hamstrung us severely for a decade now and I'm ready to see us have some quality options there instead of continuing to gamble on penny stocks.

I agree. I hope Romo does well this year so we can trade him for a draft pick.
We need 2 solid veterans and a young development qb for the future. Romo is nice story right now, but the chances of a undrafted free agent qb being the long term answer is pretty slim. Even if he turns out to be pretty decent, we can and should do better.

cowboys19
10-30-2006, 05:47 PM
I agree. I hope Romo does well this year so we can trade him for a draft pick.
We need 2 solid veterans and a young development qb for the future. Romo is nice story right now, but the chances of a undrafted free agent qb being the long term answer is pretty slim. Even if he turns out to be pretty decent, we can and should do better.

Just keep counting him out. This kid will prove everyone wrong that he wont be successful in this league.

I feel like if he reaches his potential he could become a better Matt Hasselbeck/Marc Bulger

Kangaroo
10-30-2006, 05:57 PM
Not sure of their contract status but here are some guys I would like

Kelly Holcomb
Damon Huard (But he may get a shot at a starting gig again)
Jamie Martin
Josh McCown

That is me though

DawnOfANewD
10-30-2006, 07:10 PM
Not sure if it's complete, but here's a list of '07 FA QB's:

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/nfl/freeagents.html

Bleu Star
10-30-2006, 07:11 PM
What's Ryan Leaf up to?

Slammin Bran 23
10-30-2006, 07:27 PM
Romo
Baker
Draftee
or maybe a FA...

Chuck 54
10-30-2006, 08:23 PM
First, I'm assuming Romo cuts it and comes in as an established starter...despite his game last night, that is not a guarantee yet...he still has a lot to prove over the rest of the season, but let's assume he is firmly entrenched going into the offseason.

I want to take the GB strategy, draft a QB in some round every year...from time to time you'll find a guy who can develop into a solid backup or future starter. This year we missed on Stanley and someone else...it doesn't hurt to take a shot at a young QB in later rounds or even in the 3rd when you see a guy from a big school with lots of competitive experience.

Then I'd pick up a lower tier veteran to be my backup, not a guy who would actually compete for the starting job...that's a mistake if you are convince Romo is your starter...a young guy can't usually handle the pressure. Even Troy had serious issues with it when he started.

ConcordCowboy
10-30-2006, 09:03 PM
http://redsox.collider.com/uploads/imageGallery/Troy_Smith/troy_smith.jpg

Silverstar
10-31-2006, 03:29 AM
I think John Beck of BYU would make a nice prospect at QB next year. He's throwing at 70% clip right now with 19 TD's, 3 INT's and 8 sacks in 7 games. He's similar in size to Romo at 6-2 216 and has good mobility in the pocket. I'm sure he'll still be on the board for the second day of the draft.

Billy Bullocks
10-31-2006, 04:25 AM
Kartr, I honestly doubt that you are a fan of this team. I have never heard you say anything positive about anything.

Dat Dude, your agenda is clear.

sk0aL
10-31-2006, 04:33 AM
Our backup will most likely come strictly from the draft, as I don't think there are many competent FA QB's coming up that would be happy being a backup.

Matt Schaub, Simms, Plummer, etc. will all want to be starters. I say we draft a QB in the 1st round, take a gamble on a late rounder, and bring in a vet on the downslide of his career to lend Romo some mentorship. Maybe someone like Brunell(blech, I know). This is of course assuming Romo turns out to be a stud, cause if not we are in a world of pain.

You people can all forget about drafting Quinn or Troy Smith. The only way we have a remote shot at either of those guys is if we go 0-9 the rest of the season and trade up for the #1-2 overall pick. It ain't gonna happen.