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bbailey423
11-05-2006, 07:58 PM
Do you guys realize that this guy does not have the tools...nor will he EVER be used to justify his draft position. We could have had a OL or a WR for years to come....instead we get a TE that is to slow to ever really justify his draft position or to soft to ever be a dominate blocker. Was puzzled with this pick (especially with Witten on the roster) and will ALWAYS disagree with this position. He is not a difference maker. Teams don't gameplan for him.

Hostile
11-05-2006, 08:02 PM
I disagree.

Gaede
11-05-2006, 08:03 PM
meh, I don't know.

I like Fasano--he's tough and will catch the ball

He's making alot of stupid rookie mistakes though--it's probably averaged out to two a game

bbailey423
11-05-2006, 08:03 PM
tell me what numbers a TE drafted in the 2nd round needs to post to justify his draft position? Keep in mind that Witten was drafted in the 3rd

SupermanXx
11-05-2006, 08:06 PM
we should have re-drafted Garo Yepremian and I will never back down from that position. We didn't know about Romo at the time obviously, and Yepremian could have stepped in immediately and been a star for us at QB

http://www.fonar.com/news/images/garo_golfphoto.jpg
http://www.autographedtoyou.com/celebpics/garo_yepremian4.jpg
http://sportsmed.starwave.com/i/magazine/new/yepremian_20021016.jpg

Hostile
11-05-2006, 08:07 PM
tell me what numbers a TE drafted in the 2nd round needs to post to justify his draft position? Keep in mind that Witten was drafted in the 3rdIt isn't as finite as numbers. That's the fnatasy football explanation for everything.

TheNatureBoy
11-05-2006, 08:08 PM
No doubt Fasano was a serious reach as well as an eyebrow raiser when we had Witten and Hannam etc...

BUT

I think he's a player.

bbailey423
11-05-2006, 08:08 PM
It isn't as finite as numbers. That's the fnatasy football explanation for everything.


agreed...but a 2nd round pick TE should be a difference maker

SultanOfSix
11-05-2006, 08:08 PM
This reminds me of another one of those "voodoo" plays. Fasano has the ball in the open flat with no one in front of him and he mysteriously loses his balance, stumbles over his feet, and falls down out of bounds. It didn't have much of an effect, because Romo put us in a position to win, but still, it needed to be mentioned.

alancdc
11-05-2006, 08:09 PM
Not sure after 8 games you can say he is a bust. I think he made some nice plays today, and in past games has blocked well. Unless you watch him on each play, which most of us non coaches do not do, not sure how you can comment on him in a negative way.

DallasDW00ds0n
11-05-2006, 08:10 PM
Fasano = Lafleur

Hostile
11-05-2006, 08:11 PM
agreed...but a 2nd round pick TE should be a difference makerI think he can be and is doing a very good job. He's not going to have Gates or Witten like receiving numbers. That wasn't what we drafted him for. It isn't finite by numbers. This kid will pay dividends as he matures in this offense.

The premature evaluation syndrome is rampant. It's the disposable society we live in.

CowboyJohn
11-05-2006, 08:12 PM
Anthony "Fall Down" Fasano and Jason "Yard Short of 1st Down" Witten did not have a very good day blocking, staying upright or staying onside.

DefendeR
11-05-2006, 08:13 PM
Fasano was drafted so high because Parcells thought he looked like Mark Bavaro.

bbailey423
11-05-2006, 08:13 PM
I think he can be and is doing a very good job. He's not going to have Gates or Witten like receiving numbers. That wasn't what we drafted him for. It isn't finite by numbers. This kid will pay dividends as he matures in this offense.

The premature evaluation syndrome is rampant. It's the disposable society we live in.

We will just agree to disagree, but something tells me a couple of years from now many of us will be asking "again, why exactly did we draft this guy?"

SupermanXx
11-05-2006, 08:14 PM
Fasano was drafted so high because Parcells thought he looked like Mark Bavaro.

what do you mean? like in the face?

Hostile
11-05-2006, 08:22 PM
Fasano was drafted so high because Parcells thought he looked like Mark Bavaro.I honestly could see the comparison as valid last week against Carolina.

We will just agree to disagree, but something tells me a couple of years from now many of us will be asking "again, why exactly did we draft this guy?"That is always possible. It's too soon to whine about where he was drafted right now. I think the kid is doing a fine job and is only going to get better. But that's because I'm not looking for numbers comparing him to our 3rd round TE.

CantonBound08
11-05-2006, 09:02 PM
The premature evaluation syndrome is rampant. It's the disposable society we live in.

I think it is absolutely ridiculous. How do we know who will be a bust and who will be a great pick? I think Fasano will be alright. I think eight games is way too premature to judge some of our draft picks. Same for Bobby Carpenter. I don't want us to pull a veteran off the field and replace him with our rookie just because of his draft status. We aren't too far removed from the days of Eb Ekuban, Shante Carver, Kavika Pittman, Tony Dixon, Dwayne Goodrich, etc.

We need to give these guys a little time. This has been said many times. I guess being rational is too much to ask.

Greg Ellis will most likely not get a new contract. If Carpenter turns out to be a player it will be nice to see him step in and pick up where Ellis left off. Only time will tell.

Muhast
11-05-2006, 09:08 PM
we drafted him to do what Campbell did before we let him go

CrazyCowboy
11-05-2006, 09:42 PM
Really to early to tell.....but, I like his hands.

big dog cowboy
11-05-2006, 10:23 PM
No doubt Fasano was a serious reach
Fasano = Lafleur
Do you guys realize that this guy does not have the tools...nor will he EVER be used to justify his draft position. He is not a difference maker. Teams don't gameplan for him.
Wow. Just wow. Some people just don't get it. He is a rookie that has played in 8 games. Go back and research why he was drafted.

bbailey423
11-05-2006, 10:44 PM
Wow. Just wow. Some people just don't get it. He is a rookie that has played in 8 games. Go back and research why he was drafted.
Research why he was drafted? Let's see, as a 2nd round pick and as a TE, I would hope he was drafted to make the plays you see Witten or Cooley or Gates or Gonzalez make...because if he was drafted to stumble over his own feet or be a mediocre blocker..he does that well. I don't care how many 4 yard catches he makes...a 2nd round TE that CANNOT get up the field at all is a reach and a bust.

Hostile
11-05-2006, 11:07 PM
Oh brother.

big dog cowboy
11-05-2006, 11:36 PM
Oh brother.
I concur.

the kid 05
11-05-2006, 11:49 PM
Fasano = Lafleur

ugh, i remember playing madden and LaFleur dropping passes alot...man did i yell his name lol

the kid 05
11-05-2006, 11:50 PM
Research why he was drafted? Let's see, as a 2nd round pick and as a TE, I would hope he was drafted to make the plays you see Witten or Cooley or Gates or Gonzalez make...because if he was drafted to stumble over his own feet or be a mediocre blocker..he does that well. I don't care how many 4 yard catches he makes...a 2nd round TE that CANNOT get up the field at all is a reach and a bust.

we drafted him because we switched to the two te set, not to be the next great te like gates/witten/gonz

Bob Sacamano
11-05-2006, 11:51 PM
he's a #2 TE, that would make him the 4th option in the passing game, at best

what are you people possibly expecting from him? esp. being a rookie, where the adjustment hasn't been exactly smooth for him per Parcells, he's shown glimpses though

CowboyFan74
11-06-2006, 12:20 AM
Do you guys realize that this guy does not have the tools...nor will he EVER be used to justify his draft position. We could have had a OL or a WR for years to come....instead we get a TE that is to slow to ever really justify his draft position or to soft to ever be a dominate blocker. Was puzzled with this pick (especially with Witten on the roster) and will ALWAYS disagree with this position. He is not a difference maker. Teams don't gameplan for him.


I thought this thread was gonna be about "getting more receptions" because this guy fights for every inch unlike Witten...:mad:

Joe_Fan
11-06-2006, 01:41 AM
Personally I think Fasano rides the short bus.

Joe_Fan
11-06-2006, 01:42 AM
Really to early to tell.....but, I like his hands.
And I like how he falls down after catching a pass with nobody around.

And I like how he makes stupid mistake after stupid mistake.

Oh wait... :banghead:

Aikbach
11-06-2006, 01:43 AM
Fasano is a rookie and has at times played like one, he'll probably be the most productive pick of the 2006 Draft class however.

Screw The Hall
11-06-2006, 01:46 AM
Do you guys realize that this guy does not have the tools...nor will he EVER be used to justify his draft position. We could have had a OL or a WR for years to come....instead we get a TE that is to slow to ever really justify his draft position or to soft to ever be a dominate blocker. Was puzzled with this pick (especially with Witten on the roster) and will ALWAYS disagree with this position. He is not a difference maker. Teams don't gameplan for him.

I like what he provides us so no ... I don't agree at all.

Will he ever be someone that opposing dc's have to gameplan for? Probably not I'm not positive but that's what makes him dangerous. Don't game plan for him I don't care ... he'll catch it when it's thrown to him most of the time so the less attention he gets the better off we are.

SkinsandTerps
11-06-2006, 03:01 AM
he's a #2 TE, that would make him the 4th option in the passing game, at best

what are you people possibly expecting from him? esp. being a rookie, where the adjustment hasn't been exactly smooth for him per Parcells, he's shown glimpses though

Should be typically the 5th option really.

Fasano is a rookie and has at times played like one, he'll probably be the most productive pick of the 2006 Draft class however.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing ?



I see what the thread starter is saying, but it is far too early to judge the potential worth of a rookie draft pick. I am not a Reggie Bush fan, but the endless gushing over the kid was nauseating, I was happy that he had a piss poor game a few weeks ago so they would stop showing every 3 yard carry the kid had , but you cant deny the kid's talented. I believe that a 2nd rounder is a reach for the type of player that Fasano is seemingly expected to be in a 2 TE set. The only explanation I can come up with is that the Cowboys possibly thought they werent going to be able to sign Witten to an extension.

Aikbach
11-06-2006, 04:37 AM
Should be typically the 5th option really.



Is that a good thing or a bad thing ?



I see what the thread starter is saying, but it is far too early to judge the potential worth of a rookie draft pick. I am not a Reggie Bush fan, but the endless gushing over the kid was nauseating, I was happy that he had a piss poor game a few weeks ago so they would stop showing every 3 yard carry the kid had , but you cant deny the kid's talented. I believe that a 2nd rounder is a reach for the type of player that Fasano is seemingly expected to be in a 2 TE set. The only explanation I can come up with is that the Cowboys possibly thought they werent going to be able to sign Witten to an extension.Who have the Skins drafted? Oh wait no one because they have no picks.

TwoSteppinJJ
11-06-2006, 05:21 AM
I dont think Fasano is too slow, I know he doesnt have blazing speed but he does have typical TE speed. His blocking has been good so far except for when hes taking penaltys and had mental mistakes. Fasano has played well for a rookie in my opinion. Too much bashing going on around here.

We'll have to live with the pick its not like we can go back and do it over again, so theres really no point in crying about it.

dogunwo
11-06-2006, 05:24 AM
he's a #2 TE, that would make him the 4th option in the passing game, at best

what are you people possibly expecting from him? esp. being a rookie, where the adjustment hasn't been exactly smooth for him per Parcells, he's shown glimpses though
Not everyone has the sense you have summervillain.

bbailey423
11-06-2006, 05:30 AM
Not everyone has the sense you have summervillain.

slice it anyway you want..but on a team with the 2 starting WRs 1 or 2 years away from being shown the door...on a team where the LT, C potentially out the door at the end of the year, we do not have 2nd round picks to waste on 2nd TEs. He could not even fill the role Witten fills if Witten got hurt. He fills the role of Dan Campbell with better hands. That is not a guy I think you have to draft in the 2nd round

sago1
11-06-2006, 05:53 AM
Here's the problem I have with the pick. Understand we were implementing a 2 TE offense so we needed draft another TE who capable WR/blocker opposite Witten. Fasano may be that guy BUT was there another TE who would be available to do the same thing so we wouldn't have used our 2nd round pick on him but instead could have used it on an OL.

Agree it's way too early to evaluate our 06 draft picks but we did cut Stanley (6th rounder) and Green (4th rounder) but did bring latter back to PS but he sure isn't a gimme to remain on this team beyond this year. The remaining players will have to wait on but do think Hatcher, Watkins, & McQuistan will contribute as well Carpenter & Fasano but frankly I'm thinking we should have use our 2nd round pick on an OL & drafted a TE latter in the draft to be legit TE opposite Witten. But of course this is whole hindsight and worth nothing.

bbailey423
11-06-2006, 06:00 AM
Here's the problem I have with the pick. Understand we were implementing a 2 TE offense so we needed draft another TE who capable WR/blocker opposite Witten. Fasano may be that guy BUT was there another TE who would be available to do the same thing so we wouldn't have used our 2nd round pick on him but instead could have used it on an OL.

Agree it's way too early to evaluate our 06 draft picks but we did cut Stanley (6th rounder) and Green (4th rounder) but did bring latter back to PS but he sure isn't a gimme to remain on this team beyond this year. The remaining players will have to wait on but do think Hatcher, Watkins, & McQuistan will contribute as well Carpenter & Fasano but frankly I'm thinking we should have use our 2nd round pick on an OL & drafted a TE latter in the draft to be legit TE opposite Witten. But of course this is whole hindsight and worth nothing.

The big RT from Auburn

burmafrd
11-06-2006, 06:54 AM
It is MORONIC to whine and cry about a pick 8 games into his first season. yes he has made a bunch of mistakes but he is a rookie. What is Wittens excuse? Or any of the rest of them? Just plain dumb is what this thread is.
Green can be looked at as a possible bust since he was drafted mainly as a PR and KR and so far he has done neither worth a damn; Carpenter has barely played at all. so for you to focus on Fasano indicates just another stupid agenda.

Doomsday
11-06-2006, 07:54 AM
He is a rookie who has started every game this year and been very solid, he is the last player people should be worried about. He and Hatcher will most likely be the only players from this draft that play in the league for an extended time.