TO are you watching

[bbailey423]

When TOs career is over...he better not be whining about the HOF. That catch Marvin Harrison just made is what HOFers do. And by the way...TO and butter hands is nothing new. For those who have not watched TO..here is the book on him. He is a phenomenal athlete that plays WR. He does not have great hands. He does not run great routes. He is big, fast, relentless and has decent hands. That is him in a nutshell. He has dropped the ball in every stop along his NFL career

[CrazyCowboy]

Hard to argue with that.....especially tonight

[Natedawg44]

Yeah he even got a taunting penalty. You can't say he's nothing like Harrison.:lmao:

[Slammin Bran 23]

I like his celebrations though. Adds to the entertainment portion of the NFL.

[BlueStar22]

People act like Owens dropping passes is new. It is widely known that he doesn't have the best hands in the business. Ask any SF or Philly fan about drops.

[poke]

yeah and madden and michaels barely mentioned harrisons penalty, while
aikman and buck and everybody on post game shows made a huge deal
about owens penalty...sure he dropped a pass but what did the rest of the team do ?

[bbailey423]

Yeah he even got a taunting penalty. You can't say he's nothing like Harrison.:lmao:
at least it was not some scripted stupid TD skit. He spiked the ball..that is the oldest TD celebration known to mankind

[Bleu Star]

Yeah he even got a taunting penalty. You can't say he's nothing like Harrison.:lmao:


Imagine that?? the HOFer got a taunting penalty. That's a 15 yard taunting penalty for spiking the ball in the direction of the opposing team. I'm really disappointed that we would roast T.O. and feed into the media hate yet we hold a different standard when referring to other WRs.

[Bleu Star]

at least it was not some scripted stupid TD skit. He spiked the ball..that is the oldest TD celebration known to mankind

Question? Did they both cost their teams 15 yards?

[braw]

But unlike TO's penalty Marvin's lead to 3 pts

[khiladi]

at least it was not some scripted stupid TD skit. He spiked the ball..that is the oldest TD celebration known to mankind

But Harrison KNOWS it's a penalty... I thought everybody knew that it was a penalty...

Or is the issue now not every wide receiver knows the rules, but that it was a scripted TD skit?

Or is it now that Harrison is a classy guy, like Chad Johnson and they should be subjected to different standards than TO?

Or that TO should be called because TO called McNabb soft, for playing soft?

Let the defense of every receiver other than TO roll in....

[Bleu Star]

But unlike TO's penalty Marvin's lead to 3 pts

Good point...

I guessing since it was Harrison and not T.O. who just did that this thread won't balloon out to 4 pages. :rolleyes:

[Bob Sacamano]

lol, you guys are all over this

[Bleu Star]

lol, you guys are all over this

It's a perfect example of the double standard T.O. is held to. I'm no T.O. apologist by any means and initially didn't want him here. That said, it disappoints me to see fellow Cowboys fans roasting the guy that wears our uniform while brushing off the antics of other WRs around the league. It makes me think I am in here talking to members of the media.

[khiladi]

I'd just like to add that I am HAPPY Terrel Owens is here... I know what he brings..

he is a damn good football player, and Romo knows it... that's why TO is his favorite target...

and everybody loves Romo for his smarts....

[braw]

lol, you guys are all over this

No Summer.... But man this is a bunch of BS when the "fans" of your team nit pick one of its players to death. The Cowboys played and the Cowboys lost. Its always like that with divisional games. Remember who beat the SB Redskins when we had not won a game.

[Bob Sacamano]

It's a perfect example of the double standard T.O. is held to. I'm no T.O. apologist by any means and initially didn't want him here. That said, it disappoints me to see fellow Cowboys fans roasting the guy that wears our uniform while brushing off the antics of other WRs around the league. It makes me think I am in here talking to members of the media.

good stuff

[celj1234]

anyone have the T.O. drop video

[thekavorka]

TO dropped so many balls in that SF Green Bay playoff game where he made that incredible game winning catch. TO dropping balls is not new.

[Natedawg44]

T.O. drops more balls than a Kasikstan prostitute. Thats nothing new.

[Bleu Star]

T.O. drops more balls than a Kasikstan prostitute. Thats nothing new.

lol.. I have a feeling that will get moderated.

[Natedawg44]

Yes but it was so worth it.

[Hostile]

Since input is "welcome."

Harrison's penalty was foolish.

[Bleu Star]

Harrison's penalty was foolish.

I agree.

[Hostile]

I agree.I'm shocked since TO's doesn't seem to bother you.

[percyhoward]

I'm shocked since TO's doesn't seem to bother you.
I got it:

Harrison was taunting the opponent on the field.

TO was taunting the media.

[Bleu Star]

I'm shocked since TO's doesn't seem to bother you.

Don't be shocked. I hold them both to the same standard. That's the difference between my mode of thought and that which I argued against in the other thread. You and I both know this thread won't get half as heated as the other thread because everyone's patron saint receiver Marvin Harrison just did what no one would ever imagine he could do. He cost his team 15 yards by putting his own agenda before the team.

Also, like one other poster in this thread so succinctly pointed out, T.O.'s blunder didn't cost the team anything on the next drive. Marvin's blunder cost them an immediate 3 points.

Just as everyone is piling on T.O. the unthinkable happens. I stand by my belief that a penalty is a penalty is a penalty.

[percyhoward]

Also, like one other poster in this thread so succinctly pointed out, T.O.'s blunder didn't cost the team anything on the next drive. Marvin's blunder cost them an immediate 3 points.
Even if the end did justify the means, tell me exactly at what point those 15 yards of field position we lost just suddenly vanished.

[Hostile]

Don't be shocked. I hold them both to the same standard. That's the difference between my mode of thought and that which I argued against in the other thread. You and I both know this thread won't get half as heated as the other thread because everyone's patron saint receiver Marvin Harrison just did what no one would ever imagine he could do. He cost his team 15 yards by putting his own agenda before the team.

Also, like one other poster in this thread so succinctly pointed out, T.O. blunder didn't cost the team anything on the next drive. Marvin's blunder cost them an immediate 3 points.

Just as everyone is piling on T.O. the unthinkable happens. I stand by my belief that a penalty is a penalty is a penalty.There's no double standard. Sorry, just don't see it.

I don't care that TO's penalty didn't cost us. That is hardly the point. It was stupid. Marvin's was stupid.

Same result.

[Bleu Star]

There's no double standard. Sorry, just don't see it.

I don't care that TO's penalty didn't cost us. That is hardly the point. It was stupid. Marvin's was stupid.

Same result.

You weren't part of the double standard party in the other thread. You just dislike T.O. and though what he did was stupid. Marvin was stupid too. We are in agreeance.

[CowboysRule!]

I like Marvin Harrison, but he isn't this saint that the media try to paint him out to be. He whines and pouts about not getting the ball just as much as T.O. The media just doesn't talk about it. I bet they only briefly mention the 15 yard penalty from tonight.

Manning gets blamed when the Colts lose big play off games, but Harrison is a major reason why the Colts struggle against good defenses. He is a small receiver. He is about the size of the DBs which is why they cover him so well and he is unable to get separation.

[Bleu Star]

Even if the end did justify the means, tell me exactly at what point those 15 yards of field position we lost just suddenly vanished.

Let me break it down further. T.O.s blunder cost the team 15 yard. Marvin's blunder cost the team 15 yards and a FG on the very next drive. (15 yds + 3 pts the other way) The skins punted on the very next drive after the T.O. blunder. Clear?

[bbailey423]

some of you are missing the bigger picture....this guy is obssessed with self-promotion. And the irony of it is that he does not get that the focus and energy he spends defending HIMSELF...or pumping HIMSELF up....or accusing other of dissing HIM....or complaing about not getting HIM the ball....could be better spent on him actually focusing on catching the ball, blocking, or being a leader. Maybe the time he spends "creating" TD dances should be spent on trying to help this team get to the playoffs....he is the ultimate mercenary and winning a Super Bowl or being inducted to the HOF is the last thing on his mind...his vision is short sighted...he has no goals other than to get paid and get instant gratification/responses from his behaviour on a daily basis

Simply put, he is not a winner

[percyhoward]

Let me break it down further. T.O.s blunder cost the team 15 yard. Marvin's blunder cost the team 15 yards and a FG on the very next drive. (15 yds + 3 pts the other way) The skins punted on the very next drive after the T.O. blunder. Clear?
Right, and they punted from which yard line?

You know where this is going, right?

[big dog cowboy]

Simply put, he is not a winner
Thanks to McNabb you are correct. :trophy:

[Bleu Star]

some of you are missing the bigger picture....this guy is obssessed with self-promotion. And the irony of it is that he does not get that the focus and energy he spends defending HIMSELF...or pumping HIMSELF up....or accusing other of dissing HIM....or complaing about not getting HIM the ball....could be better spent on him actually focusing on catching the ball, blocking, or being a leader. Maybe the time he spends "creating" TD dances should be spent on trying to help this team get to the playoffs....he is the ultimate mercenary and winning a Super Bowl or being inducted to the HOF is the last thing on his mind...his vision is short sighted...he has no goals other than to get paid and get instant gratification/responses from his behaviour on a daily basis

Simply put, he is not a winner

Please name me any WR in the NFL that is not obsessed with self promotion. The ones you consider saints are the ones that quietly do the exact same things as the spotlight players. I know you really don't think there are only 3-5 wide receivers in the whole NFL that self promote. The WR position is one big self promotion. The only difference between the T.Os/Chad Johnsons of the league and other WRs is the amount of cameras jammed into their faces on a daily basis. Why don' you write a letter to Jamaica Rector or Sam Hurd and ask them what they think about themselves. If you're a WR in the NFL you self promote. Your comment about TO not being a winner is enough to make me turn in for the night. You must really have an affection for Campbells soup. I'll pick up where I left off tomorrow.

[Bleu Star]

Right, and they punted from which yard line?

You know where this is going, right?


Nowhere fast.

[Hostile]

Let me break it down further. T.O.s blunder cost the team 15 yard. Marvin's blunder cost the team 15 yards and a FG on the very next drive. (15 yds + 3 pts the other way) The skins punted on the very next drive after the T.O. blunder. Clear?This simply doesn't matter to me.

We could have onside kicked it, got possession or recovered a fumbled kickoff and it still wouldn't change my opinion. It is a preventable penalty and therefore stupid.

[bbailey423]

Please name me any WR in the NFL that is not obsessed with self promotion. The ones you consider saints are the ones that quietly do the exact same things as the spotlight players. I know you really don't think there are only 3-5 wide receivers in the whole NFL that self promote. The WR position is one big self promotion. The only difference between the T.Os/Chad Johnsons of the league and other WRs is the amount of cameras jammed into their faces on a daily basis. Why don' you write a letter to Jamaica Rector or Sam Hurd and ask them what they think about themselves. If you're a WR in the NFL you self promote. Your comment about TO not being a winner is enough to make me turn in for the night. I'll pick up where I left off tomorrow.
make all the excuses you want, but he is paid 10M and he drops balls when he is in traffic...and more dissapoiting he drops passes when he is NOT in traffic...you can preen and promote all you want if you can back it up