Current Draft Order

[Hostile]

I am not figuring any tie breakers yet. I'm not slotting playoff seeds higher. Also not switching traded picks. Just slotting the teams on the winning % of their 2006 opponents.

1. Arizona Cardinals, 1-7, .531

2. Detroit Lions, 2-6, .508
T3. Houston Texans, 2-6, .516
T3. Cleveland Browns, 2-6, .516
T3. Miami Dolphins, 2-6, .516
T6. Oakland Raiders, 2-6, .523
T6. Pittsburgh Steelers, 2-6, .523
8. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2-6, .570
9. Tennessee Titans, 2-6, .578

10. Green Bay Packers, 3-5, .492
11. San Francisco 49ers, 3-5, .508
12. Buffalo Bills, 3-5, .539
13. Washington Redskins, 3-5, .547

T14. Minnesota Vikings, 4-4, .461
T14. New York Jets, 4-4, .461
16. St. Louis Rams, 4-4, .469
17. Dallas Cowboys, 4-4, .492
18. Carolina Panthers, 4-4, .508
19. Philadelphia Eagles, 4-4, .516
20. Cincinnati Bengals, 4-4, .547

21. Atlanta Falcons, 5-3, .453
22. Seattle Seahawks, 5-3, .461
23. Kansas City Chiefs, 5-3, .484
24. Jacksonville Jaguars, 5-3, .492

25. Baltimore Ravens, 6-2, .442
26. San Diego Chargers, 6-2, .453
27. New Orleans Saints, 6-2, .461
28. New England Patriots, 6-2, .500
29. Denver Broncos, 6-2, .523
30. New York Giants, 6-2, .531

31. Chicago Bears, 7-1, .422

32. Indianapolis Colts, 8-0, .469

[Aikbach]

How did you devise those percentages out of equal records? Did you formulate a strength of schedule or something?

[bbgun]

Please, no more Ohio State linebackers.

[Hostile]

How did you devise those percentages out of equal records? Did you formulate a strength of schedule or something?I made a program that has the entire season's schedule already entered. Then all I have to do is add a win when a team wins and a loss when they lose and it automatically calculates the %s.

[Hailmary]

if we do end up picking in the middle somewhere, my pre-combine wishlist would include either Levi Brown or Jake Long, both offensive linemen.

If not, OL, then I would hope Dwayne Jarrett would fall to us. He's probably not going to come close to his last year numbers, so I'm hoping he slides a little, but his stock could also skyrocket if he runs a good 40.

Number 3 on the wishlist would be a stud CB.

[Hostile]

if we do end up picking in the middle somewhere, my pre-combine wishlist would include either Levi Brown or Jake Long, both offensive linemen.

If not, OL, then I would hope Dwayne Jarrett would fall to us. He's probably not going to come close to his last year numbers, so I'm hoping he slides a little, but his stock could also skyrocket if he runs a good 40.

Number 3 on the wishlist would be a stud CB.FS, Laron Landry, of LSU is still on top of my wish list. I like Pat Watkins, Landry is a difference maker.

If a QB is there I think we have to consider it. OL is definitely a top need.

[smarta5150]

I covered Dwayne Jarret in HS. He was just a frosh though so he wasnt "too" dangerous.

[Rampage]

I am not figuring any tie breakers yet. I'm not slotting playoff seeds higher. Also not switching traded picks. Just slotting the teams on the winning % of their 2006 opponents.

1. Arizona Cardinals, 1-7, .531

2. Detroit Lions, 2-6, .508
T3. Houston Texans, 2-6, .516
T3. Cleveland Browns, 2-6, .516
T3. Miami Dolphins, 2-6, .516
T6. Oakland Raiders, 2-6, .523
T6. Pittsburgh Steelers, 2-6, .523
8. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2-6, .570
9. Tennessee Titans, 2-6, .578

10. Green Bay Packers, 3-5, .492
11. San Francisco 49ers, 3-5, .508
12. Buffalo Bills, 3-5, .539
13. Washington Redskins, 3-5, .547

T14. Minnesota Vikings, 4-4, .461
T14. New York Jets, 4-4, .461
16. St. Louis Rams, 4-4, .469
17. Dallas Cowboys, 4-4, .492
18. Carolina Panthers, 4-4, .508
19. Philadelphia Eagles, 4-4, .516
20. Cincinnati Bengals, 4-4, .547

21. Atlanta Falcons, 5-3, .453
22. Seattle Seahawks, 5-3, .461
23. Kansas City Chiefs, 5-3, .484
24. Jacksonville Jaguars, 5-3, .492

25. Baltimore Ravens, 6-2, .442
26. San Diego Chargers, 6-2, .453
27. New Orleans Saints, 6-2, .461
28. New England Patriots, 6-2, .500
29. Denver Broncos, 6-2, .523
30. New York Giants, 6-2, .531

31. Chicago Bears, 7-1, .422

32. Indianapolis Colts, 8-0, .469
so who would you wanna draft? i think we will keep romo.

[smarta5150]

I have some favoritism w. Michigan but Long is a great OT which could be a very viable option and if we want CB early Hall has been a stand out this year (not sure if it would be a stretch though).

[smarta5150]

I still wanna give Watkins a better shot and some time to develope personally.. so I would stay away from FS.

[CowboyStar88]

i like that safety from florida he is pretty good also..and that wr they have bubba caldwell or something i think his name is

[Hostile]

21. Atlanta Falcons, 5-3, .453
22. Seattle Seahawks, 5-3, .461
23. Kansas City Chiefs, 5-3, .484
24. Jacksonville Jaguars, 5-3, .492

25. Baltimore Ravens, 6-2, .442
26. San Diego Chargers, 6-2, .453
27. New Orleans Saints, 6-2, .461
28. New England Patriots, 6-2, .500
29. Denver Broncos, 6-2, .523
30. New York Giants, 6-2, .531

31. Chicago Bears, 7-1, .422

32. Indianapolis Colts, 8-0, .469I was looking at these teams and thinking. That's almost the 12 playoff teams as it stands right now. All 8 division leaders are there. The problem is there are 7 AFC teams and 5 NFC teams.

If you went strictly by the draft order (Yes, I know they won't end up this way) KC would be out and Philly in.

I do think it's safe to say that 7 of the 8 division leaders at the halfway point all have their divisions in jeopardy. The Broncos and Chargers are in a dogfight for the AFC West. The rest not so much.

We figured the NFC East was the best division in football prior to the season. I think the AFC West might argue that.

[CrazyCowboy]

Please, no more Ohio State linebackers.:laugh2:

[ConcordCowboy]

Please, no more Ohio State linebackers.


bbgun...:shoot2:


:laugh2:

[burmafrd]

I think that after looking at last night and knowing how messed up the Cards are that the Raiders and Cards will be one and two in some order.Houston 3; browns 4. Detroit seems to be getting its O together so I put them at 5.
After that who knows. with 8 games to go its going to get jumbled all over. I wonder what the draft order looked like this time last year, and then compare it with the actual 2006 draft.

[superpunk]

FS, Laron Landry, of LSU is still on top of my wish list. I like Pat Watkins, Landry is a difference maker.

If a QB is there I think we have to consider it. OL is definitely a top need.

If we take another freaking FS and rely on a rookie again I'm gonna shoot myself. Give me a WR. I think Purcells will churn the roster, and look for late talent along the OL, unless an absolute can't miss falls to us.

[Hostile]

I think that after looking at last night and knowing how messed up the Cards are that the Raiders and Cards will be one and two in some order.Houston 3; browns 4. Detroit seems to be getting its O together so I put them at 5.
After that who knows. with 8 games to go its going to get jumbled all over. I wonder what the draft order looked like this time last year, and then compare it with the actual 2006 draft.You know what frustrates the crap out of me about that list?

Last year we had the 18 pick. I just knew this year would be such an improvement. I think we all did. I expected to challenge for the division crown.

I didn't expect to be picking lower than we did last year. Lot of season left, but seeing that 17 next to our name pisses me off.

[Hailmary]

If we take another freaking FS and rely on a rookie again I'm gonna shoot myself. Give me a WR. I think Purcells will churn the roster, and look for late talent along the OL, unless an absolute can't miss falls to us.

I think watkins will be improved w/ an offseason of film watching, and strength and conditioning.

OL remains our top priority. I'm sick of patchwork offensive lines bringing in players past their prime mixed in w/ 2nd day draft picks.

WR is also high on my list. I'm hoping Jarrett has the flu during his pro day and runs an unspectacular 40 so he slips to us. I don't think he'll make an impact right away like Calvin Johnson (he's rail thin and will need a year to add bulk), ,but I like his long term potential.

[the kid 05]

I made a program that has the entire season's schedule already entered. Then all I have to do is add a win when a team wins and a loss when they lose and it automatically calculates the %s.

:pc: :geek:

:D

[burmafrd]

Columbo is worrying me with his mistakes. So maybe another OT. Proctor needs some playing time to see if he can replace Rivera. Outside of that I think that just maybe the O line is ok. I think we have to look at getting another CB- Henry is not looking that great, is 30 NOW, and Glenn has one foot in the grave. And maybe a real BIG MEAN NASTY NT that eats centers and uses their leg bones for toothpicks would be a good one as well.

[Hostile]

:pc: :geek:

:D:holmes:

[the kid 05]

:holmes:

"it's elementary dear Hos"

[Hailmary]

Columbo is worrying me with his mistakes. So maybe another OT. Proctor needs some playing time to see if he can replace Rivera. Outside of that I think that just maybe the O line is ok. I think we have to look at getting another CB- Henry is not looking that great, is 30 NOW, and Glenn has one foot in the grave. And maybe a real BIG MEAN NASTY NT that eats centers and uses their leg bones for toothpicks would be a good one as well.
Yeah, Henry's bad game wouldn't concern me at all if he were 25, but at 30, it's maybe time to start preparing for the future. We've spent so many 1st rd picks on the defensive side, so I would like to concentrate a bit more on the offensive side.

[REDVOLUTION]

I still wanna give Watkins a better shot and some time to develope personally.. so I would stay away from FS.

Would it be safe to say that Watkins just needs experience... those are my thoughts... or is there something more?

[Portland Fanatic]

Give me any combination of these picks and I'd be happy...

Kyle Young Center from Fresno St.
Justin Blaylock OG/OT from Texas
Best OT on the board in the second or third round
LaRon Landry FS from LSU
Frank Okam NT from Texas

OR Top CB in the first and move Henry to FS

This HAS to be a MEAT AND POTATOES draft!!!

[the kid 05]

LaRon Landry FS from LSU


be honest with me...you just want him for the last name ;) :p:

[Hostile]

be honest with me...you just want him for the last name ;) :p:I love his last name, but I like his game better. A lot better in fact.

[Portland Fanatic]

be honest with me...you just want him for the last name ;) :p:

It could only mean good things are in store for him :bow:

[neosapien23]

if we do end up picking in the middle somewhere, my pre-combine wishlist would include either Levi Brown or Jake Long, both offensive linemen.

If not, OL, then I would hope Dwayne Jarrett would fall to us. He's probably not going to come close to his last year numbers, so I'm hoping he slides a little, but his stock could also skyrocket if he runs a good 40.

Number 3 on the wishlist would be a stud CB.


I totally agree with wanting to take an Olineman or Jarret if he falls. I don't want anymore picks on this defense though. The Cowboys have already wasted enough picks on it. I think the problem is the person calling the defense. I am absolutley convinced that if Freeny played opposite of Ware, they still wouldn't get pressure.

[stealth]

has a team ever had consecutive number one overall pics?

[Gordon]

Geez, if we stay on this pace and finish up 8-8 and only get the 17th pick, I'm gonna be pretty mad.

[Hostile]

has a team ever had consecutive number one overall pics?Yes, 5 times.

1999 & 2000 Cleveland Browns, Tim Couch & Courtney Brown.

1994 & 1995 Cincinnati Bengals, Dan Wilkinson & Ki-Jana Carter.

1986 & 1987 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Bo Jackson & Vinny Testaverde.

1939 & 1940 St. Louis Cardinals, Ki Aldrich & George Cafego.

1936 & 1937 Philadelphia Eagles, Jay Berwanger (1st ever draft pick) & Sam Francis.

[stealth]

Yes, 5 times.

1999 & 2000 Cleveland Browns, Tim Couch & Courtney Brown.

1994 & 1995 Cincinnati Bengals, Dan Wilkinson & Ki-Jana Carter.

1986 & 1987 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Bo Jackson & Vinny Testaverde.

1939 & 1940 St. Louis Cardinals, Ki Aldrich & George Cafego.

1936 & 1937 Philadelphia Eagles, Jay Berwanger (1st ever draft pick) & Sam Francis.


lol apparently it never works out for the better then

[burmafrd]

Consdiering jackson did not play with the bucs, its pretty much true that no team that ever had back to back #1's ever did well. Looking at that entire list, not one of those players were ever worth a #1. But then the reason why those teams were picking at that position was that they stunk from the field to the front office as those picks showed.

[Hostile]

lol apparently it never works out for the better thenHere's a trivia question.

The Cowboys have had 3 overall #1 draft picks. Who are they?

They would have had a 4th overall #1 draft pick but the pick was "voided." Why?

[Hostile]

Consdiering jackson did not play with the bucs, its pretty much true that no team that ever had back to back #1's ever did well. Looking at that entire list, not one of those players were ever worth a #1. But then the reason why those teams were picking at that position was that they stunk from the field to the front office as those picks showed.Bo was definately worth the overall # 1 and I think Jay Berwanger was too.

[burmafrd]

Aikman was one; I think Lilly was another; maybe TD for the third?

[burmafrd]

Cannot judge Berwanger since he never played pro ball; Jackson - I don't know. His career was pretty short.

[Hostile]

Aikman was one; I think Lilly was another; maybe TD for the third?Bob Lilly was the 13th pick of 1961, Tony Dorsett was the 2nd overall behind Ricky Bell of USC to Tampa to play for his college coach.

[Hostile]

Cannot judge Berwanger since he never played pro ball; Jackson - I don't know. His career was pretty short.Bo was amazing pre injury though. One of the best I ever saw.

[superpunk]

Quincy Carter, and Russell MAryland. ;)

[stealth]

bo jackson was a beast and one of if not the fastest guy ever in the NFL. He ran a 4.16 if memory serves me, Bo was worth a few first round picks in my opinion, Can't speak on Berwanger I wans't even an itch in my grand daddies pants back then.

[Hostile]

Quincy Carter, and Russell MAryland. ;)Maryland is correct.

So we have Troy and Maryland answered. Who is the 3rd and why was the 4th "voided?"

I know someone knows these.

[burmafrd]

Not arguing that Bo was not a beast- but remember how few years he played. Russel Maryland is the guy I forgot. I think TD was actually a #2.

[stealth]

too tall

[Hostile]

too tallToo Tall is the 3rd.

Now, why did we qualify for a 4th overall #1 but not get to select overall #1 one year?

No it was not a trade.

[stealth]

expansion?

[Zman5]

Too tall

[Hostile]

Ed "Too Tall" Jones, 1974, DE, Tenn State
Troy Aikman, 1989, QB, UCLA
Russell Maryland, 1991, DT, Miami

[superpunk]

Too Tall is the 3rd.

Now, why did we qualify for a 4th overall #1 but not get to select overall #1 one year?

No it was not a trade.

Expansion franchise? Did not know Too Tall was a #1.

[Hostile]

expansion?No sir, but a good guess.

Despite finishing 1960 0-11-1 we picked 13th overall in 1961. That's when we got Bob Lilly though. Don't care where we picked, he was the real deal.

[Hostile]

Everyone stumped?

I thought it was a bit easier than this.

[stealth]

well we havent all been blessed with as many years as you have had to be a fan

[Hostile]

well we havent all been blessed with as many years as you have had to be a fanDon't be jealous.

If you were a fan in 1989 (1-15) & 1990, you were around for the answer to this one.

That probably gave it away.

[superpunk]

Okay...>Steve Walsh.

[stealth]

sad part is we had season tickets in '89, I was way too young to really be a fan back then though. 10 year old stealth was too busy staring at the cheerleaders to watch the games.

and if it is steve walsh then I draw a complete blank on how all that worked out

[Hostile]

Okay...>Steve Walsh.Bingo.

Dallas selected him in the 1989 Supplemental Draft which means they gave up their #1 of 1990 for him.

Worked out for the best, we might have taken Blair Thomas instead of Emmitt Smith.

Thank you Steve Walsh.

[windward]

Bingo.

Dallas selected him in the 1989 Supplemental Draft which means they gave up their #1 of 1990 for him.

Worked out for the best, we might have taken Ki-Jana Carter instead of Emmitt Smith.

Thank you Steve Walsh.

I think you mean Blair Thomas. Carter was drafted in 1995.

[Hostile]

I think you mean Blair Thomas. Carter was drafted in 1995.Yes, I do, thanks.