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The30YardSlant
11-12-2006, 09:08 PM
49 catches
654 yards
7 TDs

On pace for 88 catches, 1,164 yards, and 12 TDs

Dallas hasnt had a WR put up those kind of numbers since Michael Irvin caught 100 passes in 1995. I dislike the man as much as anybody, but arguing that he hasnt helped our offense is beyond idiotic.

Bob Sacamano
11-12-2006, 09:09 PM
arguing that he hasnt helped our offense is beyond idiotic.

:hammer:

wileedog
11-12-2006, 09:11 PM
Look at the Crayton TD today. Entire defense loaded to TO's side.

He's infuriating, annoying, self-centered and probably not worth the money we are paying him.

But even as a decoy, he makes it possible to succeed with no-name receivers like Hurd.

LaTunaNostra
11-12-2006, 09:12 PM
49 catches
654 yards
7 TDs

On pace for 88 catches, 1,164 yards, and 12 TDs

Dallas hasnt had a WR put up those kind of numbers since Michael Irvin caught 100 passes in 1995. I dislike the man as much as anybody, but arguing that he hasnt helped our offense is beyond idiotic.

Nobody's arguing his on-field contributions.

And if he continues to conduct himself as he did today, he'll win over even the die-hard 'haters', myself included.

Bob Sacamano
11-12-2006, 09:12 PM
Nobody's arguing his on-field contributions.

And if he continues to conduct himself as he did today, he'll win over even the die-hard 'haters', myself included.

and you are the hardest of the die-hards

Danny White
11-12-2006, 09:12 PM
I'm going to focus on the first part of your post title.

I supported bringing him in, and I think he does help the team... but despite that, I've found that I REALLY do hate the guy.

I don't think I've ever hated a Cowboy while he was wearing the star, but I really dislike TO. The guy just grates on me.

The30YardSlant
11-12-2006, 09:12 PM
The middle of the field has been WIDE OPEN all season because everyone is shifting their safeties deep to TO's side and the LBs are one on one with our TEs and backs

Mr Cowboy
11-12-2006, 09:14 PM
He has helped, but he has also hurt this team.................

The30YardSlant
11-12-2006, 09:14 PM
I'm going to focus on the first part of your post title.

I supported bringing him in, and I think he does help the team... but despite that, I've found that I REALLY do hate the guy.

I don't think I've ever hated a Cowboy while he was wearing the star, but I really dislike TO. The guy just grates on me.

And yet, here we are, 10 weeks into the season, still waiting for him to "destroy" this team like everyone told us he would. The only reason his name has been in the headlines so much is because the media lives and dies by his every word and action. He really hasnt done anything aside from drop some passes and get one celebration penalty

LaTunaNostra
11-12-2006, 09:16 PM
. Entire defense loaded to TO's side.


And that WASN'T happening to him with Terry in..TG was getting as much attention as he was.

I hope Owens appreciates that - he ended up with good numbers and a second half TD when he beat the single coverage by Green, but in the first half he was two receptions for less than 20 yards.

In the end, it's TONY ROMO who is making it happen, but Owens has benefited from 'shared coverage' before today and without TG he can expect to be very, very popular.

bbgun
11-12-2006, 09:17 PM
He's helped all his teams, but the price has been steep. Dallas will not be his last NFL stop.

CaptainAmerica
11-12-2006, 09:19 PM
There are 2 big reasons we are at the very top of the league in offense and one is the attention T.O. demands and two is we now have a QB to take advantage of it.

We are now fun to watch on offense!

LaTunaNostra
11-12-2006, 09:21 PM
and you are the hardest of the die-hards

You'd be surprised, summer.

Last week I was one of the few defending his 'drop' as something any receiver can and does make.

I defended him when he was accused of faking his preseason injury, and even more when he was accused of deliberately over-dosing.

My FIRST postgame comment today was to 'defend' him in Rack's thread.

But every time I see him showboat, whenever he comes out with the obnoxious boasting, and most of all, whenever he puts himself before his team, my hate kicks up with a vengeance.

Today, tho, he was a pro. In every way, imo.

Let it STAY that way, and he'll certainly get the love.

Danny White
11-12-2006, 09:22 PM
And yet, here we are, 10 weeks into the season, still waiting for him to "destroy" this team like everyone told us he would. The only reason his name has been in the headlines so much is because the media lives and dies by his every word and action. He really hasnt done anything aside from drop some passes and get one celebration penalty

Well, there's still a lot of games left to play, but if we end up missing the playoffs by one game, I'm going to blame TO for that drop against the Redsk*ns. If he makes that catch, we win that game in a rout.

It's going to take me a long time to get over that... basturd ruined what should have been a great day. :mad:

Ben_n_austin
11-12-2006, 09:23 PM
He has helped, but he has also hurt this team.................


Right - With his drop that equal loss of downs; his distractive behavior; bad attitude and childish demeanor, he does hurt the team.

I won't argue that he hasn't done things to help, but he sure does a lot to hurt this team as well.

It's a give and take with T.O. - always has been. That's a damn shame.

pigskin fan
11-12-2006, 09:24 PM
I like TO!
I don't like watching him drop the ball, but I'm glad JJ signed him.
He's a gamebreaking talent, easily top 10 at his position.
He doesn't get a fair rap in the press, but he's brought a lot of that on himself. If he worried a little less about the spotlight and a littlle more about say the team, he'd put an end to a lot of his problems.

It was nice to hear the guys give him credit for staying after practice and working with Hurd (who made a sick catch reaching back on a poorly thrown pass) during TC.

I'm glad he's here. I'm glad Romo throws him the ball. Heck, I'm glad Witten and Crayton are getting involved more to. Add Glenn to the mix and Dallas has what they need on O to score a lot of points and to be very successful. All they have to do is play smart, CATCH the ball, Secure the ball and everything will be alright.

sbark
11-12-2006, 10:00 PM
Nobody's arguing his on-field contributions.

And if he continues to conduct himself as he did today, he'll win over even the die-hard 'haters', myself included.

Well struck

khiladi
11-12-2006, 10:14 PM
And yet, here we are, 10 weeks into the season, still waiting for him to "destroy" this team like everyone told us he would. The only reason his name has been in the headlines so much is because the media lives and dies by his every word and action. He really hasnt done anything aside from drop some passes and get one celebration penalty
:hammer:

Seven
11-12-2006, 10:24 PM
49 catches
654 yards
7 TDs

On pace for 88 catches, 1,164 yards, and 12 TDs

Dallas hasnt had a WR put up those kind of numbers since Michael Irvin caught 100 passes in 1995. I dislike the man as much as anybody, but arguing that he hasnt helped our offense is beyond idiotic.

True enough. But we ain't getting our bang for the buck, JMO.

REDVOLUTION
11-13-2006, 12:26 AM
But even as a decoy, he makes it possible to succeed with no-name receivers like Hurd.

Now is calling him a "decoy" fair... its a game of matchups... so when he is covered we go for better matchup.

You dont hear people calling Harrison a decoy because Wayne is getting the ball etc....

ThreeSportStar80
11-13-2006, 12:32 AM
I'll take the second half T.O. that was making some catches and JUST PLAYING the game!

CanadianCowboysFan
11-13-2006, 12:53 AM
Well, there's still a lot of games left to play, but if we end up missing the playoffs by one game, I'm going to blame TO for that drop against the Redsk*ns. If he makes that catch, we win that game in a rout.

It's going to take me a long time to get over that... basturd ruined what should have been a great day. :mad:

No single play will cost us a playoff berth.

MiStar
11-13-2006, 01:01 AM
I might start singing his praises when he starts catching 90 % of the balls that hit him in the hands. He probably has the worst hands of any starter in the NFL.

And yes, consistantly dropping the ball will kill drives and cost us a chance at the playoffs.

Billy Bullocks
11-13-2006, 01:09 AM
Look at the Crayton TD today. Entire defense loaded to TO's side.

He's infuriating, annoying, self-centered and probably not worth the money we are paying him.

But even as a decoy, he makes it possible to succeed with no-name receivers like Hurd.


Spot on. Crayton isolated on a corner, 1 on 1, no help over the top, most DB's wont make that play.