Next years replacement for Ellis

[dfense]

I give you.....Patrick Kearney DE Atlanta Falcons. He's an unrestricted FA next year on a team that has no hope of getting to the big game before he retires. He can easily be converted as was Ellis to SLB. He's probably more nibble than Ellis.

[Future]

No, it will be bobby carpenter

[ABQCOWBOY]

I give you.....Patrick Kearney DE Atlanta Falcons. He's an unrestricted FA next year on a team that has no hope of getting to the big game before he retires. He can easily be converted as was Ellis to SLB. He's probably more nibble than Ellis.


I love Pat Kearney. Loved him when he came out of Virgina in 99 but no chance to draft him. Having said that, Kearney has played in the 34 before and he looked horrible. I think Kearney is a straight 43 DE.

[joseephuss]

I am in denial and think Ellis will be back next year.

Maybe they can draft Spencer from Purdue. He is a DE that could make the transition to OLB.

[proline]

I love Pat Kearney. Loved him when he came out of Virgina in 99 but no chance to draft him. Having said that, Kearney has played in the 34 before and he looked horrible. I think Kearney is a straight 43 DE.

Did he play in the 3-4 as a DE or an OLB? That might make a difference.

[Doomsday101]

I am in denial and think Ellis will be back next year.

Maybe they can draft Spencer from Purdue. He is a DE that could make the transition to OLB.

I would not count Ellis out just yet. How the surgury goes and his rehab will determine what is in Ellis future.

[CATCH17]

Hopefully its Bobby Carp.

Hes got his chance now to show what hes got so lets hope he can do it.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Did he play in the 3-4 as a DE or an OLB? That might make a difference.

OLB.....

[InmanRoshi]

Adalius Thomas is a UFA after this year, and he's a natural SSLB in the 3-4. But given his sack numbers the past couple of years (he already has 8 sacks this year), he'll probably come with a steep price tag.

[Doomsday101]

Hopefully its Bobby Carp.

Hes got his chance now to show what hes got so lets hope he can do it.

I agree. This is Carpenters chance to shine. He needs to make the most of it. He could not ask for a better game to try and make statement than the one aginst the Colts.

[WoodysGirl]

per PFT

Falcons DE Patrick Kerney is out for the season (http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/printedition/2006/11/14/sptfalcons1114a.html) with a ruptured right pectoral muscle.

Replace one aging DE/OLB on injured reserve for another aging DE on injured reserve? Nah, I'd rather wait out Ellis' rehab.

[jazzcat22]

way too early to be thinking about this. Carpenter can win this position over by the end of the season. Then we wouldn't need to worry about it.

[trickblue]

Adalius Thomas is a UFA after this year, and he's a natural SSLB in the 3-4. But given his sack numbers the past couple of years (he already has 8 sacks this year), he'll probably come with a steep price tag.

True... but we will have some money to spend, although we need to address the OL issue...

[theogt]

Carpenter can probably win the job and be a pretty solid player there. However, I'd like to get someone who is a prety dominant player. I really don't see Carpenter as being dominant at LOLB.

[Cowboys&Caps]

that would be greg ellis.....he will be back!

[Stautner]

Carpenter can probably win the job and be a pretty solid player there. However, I'd like to get someone who is a prety dominant player. I really don't see Carpenter as being dominant at LOLB.

I would like to have dominant players at a lot of positions, but the fact is solid is about the best you can hope for most of the time. Still, we HAVE to improve our pass rush if we want to crossover from good defense to outstanding, and that's what makes this a key position. Carpenter has a good mix of physical traits (size/speed) and agressive nature - let's hope he can turn that into something worthwhile.

[Hoov]

next years replacement for ellis is the LB we take in next years draft round 1

[alancdc]

Kearney just went down for the rest of the year didn't he?

[trickblue]

next years replacement for ellis is the LB we take in next years draft round 1

Say it ain't so... :bang2:

[Iago33]

Not another first round LBer!!!

Hopefully, Glymph or Carpenter (or a combination of both) can become solid LBers. If not, we will draft or sign one, since we won't know Ellis is back by draft time.

[dfense]

per PFT

Falcons DE Patrick Kerney is out for the season (http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/printedition/2006/11/14/sptfalcons1114a.html) with a ruptured right pectoral muscle.

Replace one aging DE/OLB on injured reserve for another aging DE on injured reserve? Nah, I'd rather wait out Ellis' rehab. Big difference in injuries though. Unless you rush the Qb on your hands.

[Zman5]

We will never have a "dominant" pass rusher until we let the players not worry about the run first.

[Doomsday101]

We will never have a "dominant" pass rusher until we let the players not worry about the run first.

Well if we can't stop the run then a pass rush is not going to matter.

[Stautner]

We will never have a "dominant" pass rusher until we let the players not worry about the run first.

This notion that some seem to have that we are the only team in which the defensive players have to read run or pass then react accordingly is ridiculous.

Does anyone really believe teams consistently tell their defense to ignore the run and just play the pass? Other than in long yardage situations NOBODY does that.

[CrazyCowboy]

Don't you believe the Falcons will sign him or put the tag on his butt?

[MichaelWinicki]

It will be either Ellis or Carpenter.

[joseephuss]

Well if we can't stop the run then a pass rush is not going to matter.

That is why Indy is not having much of a pass rush this season. They can't stop the run and it is affecting how they get to the QB.

Plus I just don't think Zimmer tells his guys to forsake the pass rush to stop the run. That has been a myth for some time.

[silverbear]

Adalius Thomas is a UFA after this year, and he's a natural SSLB in the 3-4. But given his sack numbers the past couple of years (he already has 8 sacks this year), he'll probably come with a steep price tag.

Excellent call, IR... Adalius Thomas would be a NICE fit in the Cowboys' defense...

[IndianaCowboyFan]

I am in denial and think Ellis will be back next year.

Maybe they can draft Spencer from Purdue. He is a DE that could make the transition to OLB.

I like this train of thought. Fort Wayne Luers boy also.
If I remember correctly he is only 4 TFLs away from the big ten record.

[windward]

Excellent call, IR... Adalius Thomas would be a NICE fit in the Cowboys' defense...
Yes Yes Yes. If for some reason Carpenter doesn't work out and is better suited inside, then Adalius Thomas would be a great acquisition. He IMO, is one of the most versatile players in this league. If we can afford him, I'd say go for it.

[Bob Sacamano]

Adalius Thomas is a UFA after this year, and he's a natural SSLB in the 3-4. But given his sack numbers the past couple of years (he already has 8 sacks this year), he'll probably come with a steep price tag.

we have cap

but we won't go after him w/ Bobby on the team

even if he stinks it up, he'll get another go around, or 2

[Beast_from_East]

I give you.....Patrick Kearney DE Atlanta Falcons. He's an unrestricted FA next year on a team that has no hope of getting to the big game before he retires. He can easily be converted as was Ellis to SLB. He's probably more nibble than Ellis.

Bobby Carpenter.....hello.......

Please tell me that we did not burn a 1st rounder on a backup linebacker:(

[DeathToTheSkinS]

I am in denial and think Ellis will be back next year.

Maybe they can draft Spencer from Purdue. He is a DE that could make the transition to OLB.

didnt we draft some guy last year for this position?

[ThreeSportStar80]

Bobby Carpenter isn't the kind of 3-4 LB that Parcells wants on that side, he needs a run stopper and a guy who can put his hand down and rush the pasher. I think the Cowboys will use Junior Glymph a little more than people think..