Off the wall question, would Dallas be interested in T. J. Duckett

[Joe a Cowboys fan]

if he should become a free agent later this season or at the end of it? He is a power back and we have 3 speed, shifty, smart runing backs. I would imagine at this point he would go for peanuts. I was interested him when he was drafted but his NFL career has been the pits. Could Bill turn him into another Juice for us?

Height: 6-0 Weight: 254
Born: Feb 17, 1981 - Kalamazoo, MI
College: Michigan State
Draft: 2002 - 1st round (18th pick) by the Atlanta Falcons

Recent Career Rushing Receiving Fumbles
Year Team G Rush Yds Y/G Avg TD Rec Yds Y/G Avg Lng YAC 1stD TD Fum FumL
2004 Atlanta 13 104 509 39.2 4.9 8 3 15 1.2 5.0 11 6.7 1 0 2 2
2005 Atlanta 14 121 380 27.1 3.1 8 6 63 4.5 10.5 19 7.3 3 0 2 2
2006 Washington 3 7 40 13.3 5.7 0 1 -3 -1.0 -3.0 -3 -3.0 0 0 0 0
Career Totals (Full) 57 559 2215 38.9 4.0 31 30 230 4.0 7.7 21 8.2 9 0 7 6

[Stautner]

if he should become a free agent later this season or at the end of it? He is a power back and we have 3 speed, shifty, smart runing backs. I would imagine at this point he would go for peanuts. I was interested him when he was drafted but his NFL career has been the pits. Could Bill turn him into another Juice for us?

Recent Career Rushing Receiving Fumbles
Year Team G Rush Yds Y/G Avg TD Rec Yds Y/G Avg Lng YAC 1stD TD Fum FumL
2004 Atlanta 13 104 509 39.2 4.9 8 3 15 1.2 5.0 11 6.7 1 0 2 2
2005 Atlanta 14 121 380 27.1 3.1 8 6 63 4.5 10.5 19 7.3 3 0 2 2
2006 Washington 3 7 40 13.3 5.7 0 1 -3 -1.0 -3.0 -3 -3.0 0 0 0 0
Career Totals (Full) 57 559 2215 38.9 4.0 31 30 230 4.0 7.7 21 8.2 9 0 7 6

I wouldn't call Barber a speed, shifty RB. He has "some" moves, but that isn't his strenght - hard running is.

Assuming Thompson heals I just don't see what Duckett would bring to the table.

[Yeagermeister]

Duckett is a big back but he doesn't run like a power back. I don't see a place for him in Dallas.

[sacase]

not needed

[LD Fan]

NO! We have blocking dummies already.

[stealth]

marion barber is better as a big back even if he isn't all that big

brandon jacobs is just about the only back in the league I wish we had.

[SultanOfSix]

brandon jacobs is just about the only back in the league I wish we had.

I wouldn't mind LT.

[stealth]

I wouldn't mind LT.

maybe but I think our offensive schemes might not be all that great for a guy that dynamic. Now if peyton was still here I would love to have him.

[Stautner]

maybe but I think our offensive schemes might not be all that great for a guy that dynamic. Now if peyton was still here I would love to have him.

Don't think we might adjust our offense just a wee bit to take advantage of LT ........ ?

I know having a "dynamic" RB is a big problem, but I'm guessing we could work through it.

[stealth]

Don't think we might adjust our offense just a wee bit to take advantage of LT ........ ?

I know having a "dynamic" RB is a big problem, but I'm guessing we could work through it.


our offense is old school and conservative. I don't know if we havea coach on the team that would adequately play to LT's strengths. A back like jacobs would compliment what the coaches want to call already.

[CrazyCowboy]

Duckett is a big back but he doesn't run like a power back. I don't see a place for him in Dallas.

I agree and would NEVER consider trading Barber for him.....

[Joe a Cowboys fan]

I wouldn't call Barber a speed, shifty RB. He has "some" moves, but that isn't his strenght - hard running is.

Assuming Thompson heals I just don't see what Duckett would bring to the table.

I wouldn't call Barber a power back though. He in some ways reminds me of Emmitt. I admit I always wanted Dallas to have a power RB. Like Riggins was for the skinz or that old guy that did spot duty as a power back from the Stealers last year. You know, that old bus guy. :D Jerome Bettis.

Partially because I have always been a fan of smash mouth football and partially because the only Dallas player I ever thought of that way was Walt Garrison and that was a long time ago.

[Stautner]

I wouldn't call Barber a power back though. He in some ways reminds me of Emmitt. I admit I always wanted Dallas to have a power RB. Like Riggins was for the skinz or that old guy that did spot duty as a power back from the Stealers last year. You know, that old bus guy. :D Jerome Bettis.

Partially because I have always been a fan of smash mouth football and partially because the only Dallas player I ever thought of that way was Walt Garrison and that was a long time ago.

I agree that Barber isn't truly a power back, but frankly Duckett hasn't shown a whole lot in that capacity either. I would rather develop a FB to fill that kind of role and keep the depth at RB we have with JJ, Barber and Thompson.

[LD Fan]

our offense is old school and conservative. I don't know if we havea coach on the team that would adequately play to LT's strengths. A back like jacobs would compliment what the coaches want to call already.

Parcells is much more adaptable than he is portrayed. He definately adjusts his approach to the personnel he has. And he's certainly not stupid. If he had LT he'd find a way to exploit the situation.

[RedLine]

No thanks. The Skins traded for him and they don't even seem to want him.

[Joe a Cowboys fan]

Understood about our three current backs but with regard to Duckett was O. J. Anderson all that he could be his first few years in the league?

I actually like that Dallas converted Oliver(?) to a FB position from being a LB.

[Stautner]

our offense is old school and conservative. I don't know if we havea coach on the team that would adequately play to LT's strengths. A back like jacobs would compliment what the coaches want to call already.

You've got to be kidding, right ...... ?

Parcells got a hell of a lot of mileage out of Joe Morris and Curtis Martin.

LT can do the same things they can and more.

Do you really think that it would take that much extra imagination to throw in a few more pitchouts or other plays designed to LT's strengths.

Even more important, do you really think LT is so limited that he can only have success in an offense that is dramatically more exotic than ours?

[stealth]

You've got to be kidding, right ...... ?

Parcells got a hell of a lot of mileage out of Joe Morris and Curtis Martin.

LT can do the same things they can and more.

Do you really think that it would take that much extra imagination to throw in a few more pitchouts or other plays designed to LT's strengths.

Even more important, do you really think LT is so limited that he can only have success in an offense that is dramatically more exotic than ours?


both our back are pretty damn good at the screen and we hardly call it.
Thats an example of not playing to our strengths. I think a guy like jacobs wouldn't cause any change to our plans. I do not think LT would be as good as he is capable of being in our system, no. I thnk brandon jacobs would be. I don't see LT as a north south back, kinda like reggie bush. You can dissagree with me but I don't think LT would be a good fit in our offense. he would be good but not great. I just think he needs a creative offensive mind to get the most out of him and I don't see that here.

[LD Fan]

both our back are pretty damn good at the screen and we hardly call it.
Thats an example of not playing to our strengths. I think a guy like jacobs wouldn't cause any change to our plans. I do not think LT would be as good as he is capable of being in our system, no. I thnk brandon jacobs would be. I don't see LT as a north south back, kinda like reggie bush. You can dissagree with me but I don't think LT would be a good fit in our offense. he would be good but not great. I just think he needs a creative offensive mind to get the most out of him and I don't see that here.

Is there any more conservative coach than Marty alphabet soup? Even he has found a way to let LT flourish.

[Stautner]

both our back are pretty damn good at the screen and we hardly call it.
Thats an example of not playing to our strengths. I think a guy like jacobs wouldn't cause any change to our plans. I do not think LT would be as good as he is capable of being in our system, no. I thnk brandon jacobs would be. I don't see LT as a north south back, kinda like reggie bush. You can dissagree with me but I don't think LT would be a good fit in our offense. he would be good but not great. I just think he needs a creative offensive mind to get the most out of him and I don't see that here.

If you believe this then you don't believe LT is an outstanding RB.

The comparison to Reggie Bush baffles me - LT isn't a small, scatback type - he's 220+ pounds and can run through tackles as well as run past defenders. He's an all around RB - the kind that can be successful in any system because his skill set is adaptable - he isn't the kind of guy that is restricted to success only in the right circumstances.

As for Brandon Jacobs, he IS a limited RB - very good at what he does, but not versatile.

[stealth]

LT is one hell of on athlete but as a running back pure and simple he isn't an outstanding one tiki is a great RB emmitt was a great RB but LT isn't the same kinda player. its not about better or worse or equal. for our system right now today brandon jacobs would be a better back for us than LT.

[SultanOfSix]

LT is one hell of on athlete but as a running back pure and simple he isn't an outstanding one tiki is a great RB emmitt was a great RB but LT isn't the same kinda player. its not about better or worse or equal. for our system right now today brandon jacobs would be a better back for us than LT.

You're kidding right? LT is the only guy in the league that has a chance at breaking Emmitt's record.

[stealth]

done arguing or debating or whatever no one sees my point and I don't care to make it anymore.

[Stautner]

LT is one hell of on athlete but as a running back pure and simple he isn't an outstanding one tiki is a great RB emmitt was a great RB but LT isn't the same kinda player. its not about better or worse or equal. for our system right now today brandon jacobs would be a better back for us than LT.

That's your standard? Tiki and Emmitt?

Actually, however, I think you would find that LT's success stacks up favorably - especially against Tiki.

LT has AVERAGED 94.2 ypg rushing, 31.5 ypg receiving (125.7 total yards per game AVERAGE) and 1.1 TD's per game OVER HIS CAREER.

Scatbacks that don't run north and south don't have those kind of TD numbers.

As for Jacobs, he comes in and plows ahead for the tough yardage up the middle in a limited role - how can you think a guy with 98 career carries and ONLY 4 career receptions is a better fit ....... a guy who is limited to being a pure, straight ahead power back - little speed or value as a receiver .........

you must be stoned.

Or have you deluded yourself into thinking Jacobs is the next Earl Campbell?

[stealth]

That's your standard? Tiki and Emmitt?

Actually, however, I think you would find that LT's success stacks up favorably - especially against Tiki.

LT has AVERAGED 94.2 ypg rushing, 31.5 ypg receiving (125.7 total yards per game AVERAGE) and 1.1 TD's per game OVER HIS CAREER.

Scatbacks that don't run north and south don't have those kind of TD numbers.

As for Jacobs, he comes in and plows ahead for the tough yardage up the middle in a limited role - how can you think a guy with 98 career carries and ONLY 4 career receptions is a better fit ....... a guy who is limited to being a pure, straight ahead power back - little speed or value as a receiver .........

you must be stoned.

Or have you deluded yourself into thinking Jacobs is the next Earl Campbell?

fact is being right isn't as important to me as it is to you.
the internet is full of people that need to be right and need to prove it any way they can. I am not one of those people. happy holidays!

[Stautner]

fact is being right isn't as important to me as it is to you.
the internet is full of people that need to be right and need to prove it any way they can. I am not one of those people. happy holidays!

That's what people who are wrong say ...... :laugh2:

Hey, it's a debate - you shouldn't have engaged in it to begin with if you didn't have the stomach for it.

But, with your case I wouldn't have the stomach either.

LT is on the fast track to the Hall of Fame, and Jacobs, so far, is only a better version of Ron Dayne.

Your case is essentially the same as if you were trying to argue that a young possession receiver very early in his career who only plays ocassionally (ie. Ricky Proehl as a No. 3 WR after only 20 career receptions) would be a better receiver to have than Marvin Harrison after he has had 5 straight years of over 1200 yards and double digit TD's.

Regardless of offensive scheme there is no way to put a player who has career totals equal to about 4 games worth of work for a primary RB over and above a player who in 5 and 1/2 years has already run his career totals to a point just short of Hall of Fame numbers.

[joseephuss]

I thought I was reading things wrong here for a moment, but then I kept reading. I do not get the point of LT not being a good fit for Dallas. He is a good fit for every team. The guy is a player.

I do paritally understand the point that maybe Dallas would not get the most out of him since they don't throw to their backs that often. Of course that is only this season and there are reasons for that. Dallas doesn't have a back who can catch as well as LT. Julius is not a big threat as a receiver, so they don't waste time designing too many plays for him. Also, the receivers and Witten have recently done a good job of getting open. There has been no need to use the backs. And when Bledsoe was QB, he just wasn't good at throwing to the running backs. We all saw what Parcells did with Ritchie Anderson. He only set the team record for receptions by a running back. I think they could find a way to add that dimension to the offense if LT were in the back field.

LT is a great back. He reminds me a lot of Emmitt Smith and Walter Payton. He is a north-south runner. I think he is a better fit for Dallas than Julius Jones. I think he is better than Tiki Barber and I think Tiki is a pretty darned good back. LT is an every down back and I would take him in a heartbeat for both Julius and Marion.

[kevwun]

LT fits in any system. He is not a scat back. He runs between the tackles just as well as he does on runs to the outside. He is the best back in the league. It's not open for debate.