BP says that Peytons hand movements are 90% bogus...

[REDVOLUTION]

so why isnt there a penalty? or a rule created for that?

[LaTunaNostra]

Cuz it's bogus as in fraudulent, not as in illegal. Just attempted trickery, so ignore it.

[stasheroo]

I still can't figure how him pulling away from center isn't a false start........

:confused:

[Rampage]

you guys ever hear some of the crap peyton says when he is making "adjustments" listen on sunday, you will here him say "OMAHA!" atleast 50 times

[Alexander]

Cuz it's bogus as in fraudulent, not as in illegal. Just attempted trickery, so ignore it.

It is hard to ignore annoying things.

As irritating as Peyton is with his, it is even more nerve-wracking when you see Eli do it.

It looks like an infant imitating an adult. Some might find it amusing in a puerile way, but it wears me right out.

[REDVOLUTION]

I still can't figure how him pulling away from center isn't a false start........

:confused:

yeah really



It is hard to ignore annoying things.

As irritating as Peyton is with his, it is even more nerve-wracking when you see Eli do it.

It looks like an infant imitating an adult. Some might find it amusing in a puerile way, but it wears me right out.

:lmao2:

[Cochese]

so why isnt there a penalty? or a rule created for that?


Do we really need ANOTHER asinine rule in the NFL rule book?

[Future]

Do we really need ANOTHER asinine rule in the NFL rule book?

no...you said that very well:bow:

[Alexander]

Do we really need ANOTHER asinine rule in the NFL rule book?

Not really.

But it still does nothing to negate the fact that it is annoying.

It reminds me of people when they use the "quotation marks" sign with their fingers when talking.

I could attack someone when I see that.

[REDVOLUTION]

Do we really need ANOTHER asinine rule in the NFL rule book?


No just one that was not inspired by a Dallas Cowboy :laugh2:

Helmet rule - Emmitt
Pushoff rule - Irvin
Horsecollar - Roy

did I miss any?

[Rampage]

No just one that was not inspired by a Dallas Cowboy :laugh2:

Helmet rule - Emmitt
Pushoff rule - Irvin
Horsecollar - Roy

did I miss any?
td celebrations - terrell owens

[khiladi]

It reminds me of people when they use the "quotation marks" sign with their fingers when talking.

I could attack someone when I see that.


Unless of course it's Chris Farley as the "Motivational Speaker"... I could watch that sh*t all day...

[REDVOLUTION]

td celebrations - terrell owens

Do you think that was just because of TO? hmmm..

How about Chad, Horn and the others?

[khiladi]

td celebrations - terrell owens


Erik Williams 'hands-to-the-face' rule, which was pretty much a result of Reggie White's consistent whining because he couldn't get through Erik Williams... after they invented the rule, Erik Williams' play was just not the same...

K-Dub's touch the receiver with a feather pass interference rule...

Rules nowadays tend to be made up when the Cowboys play the Redskins...

[Future]

No just one that was not inspired by a Dallas Cowboy :laugh2:

Helmet rule - Emmitt
Pushoff rule - Irvin
Horsecollar - Roy

did I miss any?

Hands to the face - Erik Williams

[Rampage]

Do you think that was just because of TO? hmmm..

How about Chad, Horn and the others?
chad and horn were just trying to 1 up t.o. it aLL started with "the sharpie incident"

[RealCowboyfan]

Do you think that was just because of TO? hmmm..


GOOD POINT:starspin

[stasheroo]

Do we really need ANOTHER asinine rule in the NFL rule book?

Personally, I think his movements are a direct attempt to keep the defensive linemen second-guessing the snap and therefore slow down their pass rush.

And I think it directly results in lower sack numbers against the Colts.

I've seen several quarterbacks charged with false-starts this season and it still frustrates me that "the Golden Child" continues to get away with it.

[REDVOLUTION]

I've seen several quarterbacks charged with false-starts this season and it still frustrates me that "the Golden Child" continues to get away with it.



Really?

Who were they and what did they do exactly?

[Doomsday]

Do we really need ANOTHER asinine rule in the NFL rule book?


:lmao2:

[stasheroo]

Really?

Who were they and what did they do exactly?

McNabb was one, I think against the Giants early in the season.

He made a subtle move away from the center (seemed to be screwing around a bit), and he was called on it.

The other was more recent, but I can't remember who it was called against - it might have been brother Eli......

:confused:

[WoodysGirl]

It is hard to ignore annoying things.

As irritating as Peyton is with his, it is even more nerve-wracking when you see Eli do it.

It looks like an infant imitating an adult. Some might find it amusing in a puerile way, but it wears me right out.
~quickly looking up puerile on dictionary.com~

:confused:

[REDVOLUTION]

McNabb was one, I think against the Giants early in the season.

He made a subtle move away from the center (seemed to be screwing around a bit), and he was called on it.

The other was more recent, but I can't remember who it was called against - it might have been brother Eli......

:confused:


Oh yeah... I remember that one with McNabb... then the Giants went on the beat them down

[Sam I Am]

Erik Williams 'hands-to-the-face' rule, which was pretty much a result of Reggie White's consistent whining because he couldn't get through Erik Williams... after they invented the rule, Erik Williams' play was just not the same...


Not exactly true. He wasn't the same after his car wreck.

[HighTechDave]

and with all that hand movement, fake change of calls, he is so pretictable with the snap because he always runs the clock down to 1 or 2 seconds.

I think he got his nose smashed in too many times

[joseephuss]

Erik Williams 'hands-to-the-face' rule, which was pretty much a result of Reggie White's consistent whining because he couldn't get through Erik Williams... after they invented the rule, Erik Williams' play was just not the same...

K-Dub's touch the receiver with a feather pass interference rule...

Rules nowadays tend to be made up when the Cowboys play the Redskins...

Who is K-Dub?

[adamknite]

About the QB pulling away from center. It's ok when I see a QB step up to the center look around then decides to back off, that doesn't seem like a problem. But I've seen PManning come up stick his hands down there appears to say something then he backs off.

K-Dub = Kevin Williams

[REDVOLUTION]

About the QB pulling away from center. It's ok when I see a QB step up to the center look around then decides to back off, that doesn't seem like a problem. But I've seen PManning come up stick his hands down there appears to say something then he backs off.

K-Dub = Kevin Williams

As long as he is the Michael Jordan of the NFL(minus the titles:D )... he will get a pass.

[Rampage]

Omaha!

[joseephuss]

About the QB pulling away from center. It's ok when I see a QB step up to the center look around then decides to back off, that doesn't seem like a problem. But I've seen PManning come up stick his hands down there appears to say something then he backs off.

K-Dub = Kevin Williams

That is what I thought and it didn't make sense to me that he was associated with pass interference. Maybe he meant Kevin Smith.

[REDVOLUTION]

That is what I thought and it didn't make sense to me that he was associated with pass interference. Maybe he meant Kevin Smith.

Kevin "pup" Williams would be correct

[joseephuss]

Kevin "pup" Williams would be correct

Pup was Kevin Smith, not Kevin Williams.

[REDVOLUTION]

Pup was Kevin Smith, not Kevin Williams.


Damn and I went to typs Smith and still typed what the poster did with Williams...
thanks

[Hostile]

I still can't figure how him pulling away from center isn't a false start........

:confused:No more than Staubach backing away into the shotgun, or any other QB yelling out an audible or motioning a TE or WR into position.

[Hostile]

Not really.

But it still does nothing to negate the fact that it is annoying.

It reminds me of people when they use the "quotation marks" sign with their fingers when talking.

I could attack someone when I see that.Ah c'mon, when Chris Farley did it you know you laughed.

[chinch]

it's also counterproductive.

he'd actually be a better QB (which is SCARY!) if he had a real HC/OC who told him EXACTLY what to do and stick to it... especially in the big game where he folds like a tent.

he's like an offensive coordinator, but a bad one.

[Hostile]

Personally, I think his movements are a direct attempt to keep the defensive linemen second-guessing the snap and therefore slow down their pass rush.

And I think it directly results in lower sack numbers against the Colts.

I've seen several quarterbacks charged with false-starts this season and it still frustrates me that "the Golden Child" continues to get away with it.In other words it's smart as hell.

[joseephuss]

No more than Staubach backing away into the shotgun, or any other QB yelling out an audible or motioning a TE or WR into position.

From what I understand, as long as he doesn't put both hands under center he can back out. The two hands is considered the set position.

[REDVOLUTION]

From what I understand, as long as he doesn't put both hands under center he can back out. The two hands is considered the set position.

So i guess he hasnt done that?

I thought someone said he does... yet still pulls away?

[joseephuss]

So i guess he hasnt done that?

I thought someone said he does... yet still pulls away?

I could be wrong. There is a first time for everything.

[trickblue]

~quickly looking up puerile on dictionary.com~

:confused:

It means childish or immature...

[joseephuss]

It means childish or immature...

There is a picture of everymember of CowboysZone next to the definition.

[trickblue]

There is a picture of everymember of CowboysZone next to the definition.

Actually some here have their picture there 3 or 4 times...

[Nightstalker]

I dont know if you guys realize this but...I can recall Romo doing this Manning thing a couple times recently. NO???

[Doomsday101]

so why isnt there a penalty? or a rule created for that?

It is not aginst the rule, he is not doing it to draw the team off-sides he is trying to confuse the defense by making them think he is changing the play.

[Hostile]

I dont know if you guys realize this but...I can recall Romo doing this Manning thing a couple times recently. NO???Correct, and if it starts working watch the proclamations of how brilliant it is because our player is doing it.

[dallasfaniac]

I don't know how this got to 3 pages already, so I might as well just add to it. :)

This is nothing new, QBs have done this from the beginning. The QB pointing out the defense is the same as an audible in that it can be a live call or dummy. Dallas does the kill signal and guess what....sometimes it doesn't mean anything. They are just letting the defense think they are going to max protect.

Whether they yell 'blue 42', 'Omaha, Omaha', '62,42' or point at the safety/cb/lb, it just means they are either changing a play, reading how the defense reacts, or sending a fake signal.

[L-O-Jete]

No just one that was not inspired by a Dallas Cowboy :laugh2:

Helmet rule - Emmitt
Pushoff rule - Irvin
Horsecollar - Roy

did I miss any?

Hands to the face rule - Erik Williams

[Cowboy4ever]

you guys ever hear some of the crap peyton says when he is making "adjustments" listen on sunday, you will here him say "OMAHA!" atleast 50 times


States, Cities and colors are all common calls, on the line.. mostly to dictate protection schemes,, but colors can be a change of dirrection for the play..

[trickblue]

No just one that was not inspired by a Dallas Cowboy :laugh2:

Helmet rule - Emmitt
Pushoff rule - Irvin
Horsecollar - Roy

did I miss any?

Mel Renfro Rule
Deion Sanders Rule

[Doomsday101]

What Manning does is no different than what many QB's have done and still do in the NFL. There is nothing wrong with it.

[joseephuss]

Mel Renfro Rule
Deion Sanders Rule

I have no basis for this other than being a homer, but I think the whole salary cap was developed just to target Jerry and the Cowboys.

[joseephuss]

What Manning does is no different than what many QB's have done and still do in the NFL. There is nothing wrong with it.

There is nothing wrong with it. It is just annoying because he takes it to the next level.

[Big Country]

Mel Renfro Rule
Deion Sanders Rule

Don't forget the California Quake by Butch Johnson... but actually Landry made that rule so he wouldn't do it anymore...

I loved it when Butch did that celebration... FAAAN-tastic:starspin

[adamknite]

I have no basis for this other than being a homer, but I think the whole salary cap was developed just to target Jerry and the Cowboys.

Couldn't possibly agree with you anymore.

[jimmy40]

About the QB pulling away from center. It's ok when I see a QB step up to the center look around then decides to back off, that doesn't seem like a problem. But I've seen PManning come up stick his hands down there appears to say something then he backs off.

K-Dub = Kevin Williamsquarterbacks pull their hands out from under center and call audibles all the time.

[chinch]

I dont know if you guys realize this but...I can recall Romo doing this Manning thing a couple times recently. NO???
i think it's the combination of Peyton losing each big game he faces, having an all-star team around him AND overdoing it that creates the discussion.

he's the Arod of QBs.

there is effective and there is overkill. you could argue it detracts from his game actually. win a superbowl or two doing it then he can have the last laugh.

Romo isnt' out of hand with it and does have good communication with the WRs especially... something absent for a long, long time around here. i also don't think 90% of what he is doing at this time is bogus, unlike peyton. i don't see the similarity whatsoever.

[Hostile]

i think it's the combination of Peyton losing each big game he faces, having an all-star team around him AND overdoing it that creates the discussion.

he's the Arod of QBs.

there is effective and there is overkill. you could argue it detracts from his game actually. win a superbowl or two doing it then he can have the last laugh.

Romo isnt' out of hand with it and does have good communication with the WRs especially... something absent for a long, long time around here. i also don't think 90% of what he is doing at this time is bogus, unlike peyton. i don't see the similarity whatsoever.There is a lot of truth in that statement in bold.

[Doomsday101]

There is nothing wrong with it. It is just annoying because he takes it to the next level.

I think it is being smart myself and I think Peyton is a very smart QB who has great command of that offense.

[Cbz40]

Not really.

But it still does nothing to negate the fact that it is annoying.

It reminds me of people when they use the "quotation marks" sign with their fingers when talking.

I could attack someone when I see that.


I see you are easily annoyed.....umm.... I'll have to remember that.:)

[The30YardSlant]

In other words it's smart as hell.

Bingo

[Cowboy4ever]

What I would like to see is Brady James, match him word for word,, follow him down the line, screaming out different states an colors or whatever,, every time Peyton moves, James over the top of him,barking out calls right along with him,, just to annoy him.

[The30YardSlant]

What I would like to see is Brady James, match him word for word,, follow him down the line, screaming out different states an colors or whatever,, every time Peyton moves, James over the top of him,barking out calls right along with him,, just to annoy him.

Because it would be pointless. Manning might not be clutch, but he isnt stupid.

[dallasfaniac]

I think it is being smart myself and I think Peyton is a very smart QB who has great command of that offense.

Exactly.

[dallasfaniac]

What I would like to see is Brady James, match him word for word,, follow him down the line, screaming out different states an colors or whatever,, every time Peyton moves, James over the top of him,barking out calls right along with him,, just to annoy him.

He might also get called for 'simulating snap cadence'. 15 yards.

[The30YardSlant]

He might also get called for 'simulating snap cadence'. 15 yards.

Or the fact that Manning could snap the ball and catch him out of position, or that no QB is dumb enough to fall for that....

[joseephuss]

I think it is being smart myself and I think Peyton is a very smart QB who has great command of that offense.

Sure it is smart. I don't doubt that. Just makes it hard to watch since I am not a Colts fan. Just as a fan of football, it can get annoying.

[Cowboy4ever]

Or the fact that Manning could snap the ball and catch him out of position, or that no QB is dumb enough to fall for that....

He can't snap the ball when he is walking behind the tackle. and then back to the other side.. and I never said it would have any effect on him, other than to annoy him.. but mostly it was just a little joke.. but.. its all good.

[The30YardSlant]

He can't snap the ball when he is walking behind the tackle. and then back to the other side

No, but he can snap it when James is moving anytime he wants

[dallasfaniac]

He can't snap the ball when he is walking behind the tackle. and then back to the other side..

He might be able to do a direct snap to the RB, up the gut if Brady were out of position. Regardless, it's still a penalty against Brady. I know you were just joking though.

[CrazyCowboy]

you guys ever hear some of the crap peyton says when he is making "adjustments" listen on sunday, you will here him say "OMAHA!" atleast 50 times


I will have to listen for that.....if I am not too nervous

[Bob Sacamano]

It is hard to ignore annoying things.

As irritating as Peyton is with his, it is even more nerve-wracking when you see Eli do it.

It looks like an infant imitating an adult. Some might find it amusing in a puerile way, but it wears me right out.

Romo is starting to develop that habit too :(

[Bob Sacamano]

Do you think that was just because of TO? hmmm..

How about Chad, Horn and the others?

you can't use props in your TD celebration

1st person to use a prop?

you guessed it, Terrell Eldorado Owens vs. the Seahawks in '03

[Bob Sacamano]

I have no basis for this other than being a homer, but I think the whole salary cap was developed just to target Jerry and the Cowboys.

exactomundo

[5Stars]

After Sunday's game...?

Romo will be so upset that he cannot play like Manning...

He will have to play like his idol because there is not a team on the earth currently that will ever beat the Colts! And no NFL team will...as long as Peyton is playing...

[Bob Sacamano]

After Sunday's game...?

Romo will be so upset that he cannot play like Manning...

He will have to play like his idol because there is not a team on the earth currently that will ever beat the Colts! And no NFL team will...as long as Peyton is playing...

what is this? reverse psychology?

[5Stars]

what is this? reverse psychology?


I have never studied psychology...I took one class and it gave me a headache...

I just wish I had the brains that Peyton does....

I WOULD RULE THE WORLD!

YES!

[jrumann59]

After Sunday's game...?

Romo will be so upset that he cannot play like Manning...

He will have to play like his idol because there is not a team on the earth currently that will ever beat the Colts! And no NFL team will...as long as Peyton is playing...

Uh the Pats have done it when it counts the most. Next statement.

[IndianaCowboyFan]

Mel Renfro Rule
Deion Sanders Rule

Being an old geezer I should know, but I don't, what is the Mel Renfro Rule?

[Cbz40]

Being an old geezer I should know, but I don't, what is the Mel Renfro Rule?

You're not alone ... I don't know that one.

[IndianaCowboyFan]

You're not alone ... I don't know that one......and you are an old geezer???:)

[adamknite]

Mel Renfro Rule:
Double touching of a forward pass is legal, but batting a pass toward's the opponent's end zone is illegal. Previously, a second offensive player could not legally catch a deflected pass unless a defensive player had touched it. This is usually referred to as the "Mel Renfro Rule". During a play in Super Bowl V, Baltimore Colts receiver Eddie Hinton tipped a pass intended for him. Renfro, the Cowboys defensive back, made a stab at the ball and it was ruled that he tipped it ever so slightly (which he denied) into the arms of Colts tight end John Mackey, who ran for a touchdown. Later, this rule was also the one in question during the Immaculate Reception in 1972. But despite these two incidents, the rule change did not occur until the 1978 season.

[smarta5150]

so why isnt there a penalty? or a rule created for that?

Because it is Peyton Manning. We all know the league LOVES the Mannings and will do whatever it takes to get them into a superbowl one day.

[Cbz40]

.....and you are an old geezer???:)

So I've been told....:D

[Cbz40]

Double touching of a forward pass is legal, but batting a pass toward toward's the opponent's end zone is illegal. Previously, a second offensive player could not legally catch a deflected pass unless a defensive player had touched it. This is usually referred to as the "Mel Renfro Rule". During a play in Super Bowl V, Baltimore Colts receiver Eddie Hinton tipped a pass intended for him. Renfro, the Cowboys defensive back, made a stab at the ball and it was ruled that he tipped it ever so slightly (which he denied) into the arms of Colts tight end John Mackey, who ran for a touchdown. Later, this rule was also the one in question during the Immaculate Reception in 1972. But despite these two incidents, the rule change did not occur until the 1978 season.

Thank You Sir.....I did not recall that. :)

[adamknite]

No problem. I had to look up the Deion Sanders Rule because I couldn't remember it, you're not the only one forgeting NFL Rules inspired by Dallas Cowboy players, there are so many of them it's kinda hard to keep up. lolZ.

[Cbz40]

No problem. I had to look up the Deion Sanders Rule because I couldn't remember it, you're not the only one forgeting NFL Rules inspired by Dallas Cowboy players, there are so many of them it's kinda hard to keep up. lolZ.

No truer word were ever spoken....:( :D


And by the way welcome to the board...I hope you enjoy your stay.

[IndianaCowboyFan]

Mel Renfro Rule:
Double touching of a forward pass is legal, but batting a pass toward's the opponent's end zone is illegal. Previously, a second offensive player could not legally catch a deflected pass unless a defensive player had touched it. This is usually referred to as the "Mel Renfro Rule". During a play in Super Bowl V, Baltimore Colts receiver Eddie Hinton tipped a pass intended for him. Renfro, the Cowboys defensive back, made a stab at the ball and it was ruled that he tipped it ever so slightly (which he denied) into the arms of Colts tight end John Mackey, who ran for a touchdown. Later, this rule was also the one in question during the Immaculate Reception in 1972. But despite these two incidents, the rule change did not occur until the 1978 season.


Thanks I should have known that. Welcome to the board. Just don't feed the geezers and stay out of their yards.:)

[adamknite]

Thanks, good to be here around Cowboy fans. I've been one my whole life, even when I was in 1st grade in Washington DC..... when the Redskins won the superbowl over the bills..... oh well I got to brag the next year I was there :D Moved about a month before I could rub it in their faces a second time in...

[trickblue]

Thanks, good to be here around Cowboy fans. I've been one my whole life, even when I was in 1st grade in Washington DC..... when the Redskins won the superbowl over the bills..... oh well I got to brag the next year I was there :D Moved about a month before I could rub it in their faces a second time in...

Glad to have you here...

We have several here from the Texarkana area, including myself...

[Cbz40]

Glad to have you here...

We have several here from the Texarkana area, including myself...

I grew up not to far from Texarkana....The Yellow Jackets at one time owned them........:D

[Tuna Helper]

It looks like an infant imitating an adult. Some might find it amusing in a puerile way, but it wears me right out.

Eli looks like an infant both on and off the field. I would respect the guy if he actually looked like a man.

[trickblue]

I grew up not to far from Texarkana....The Yellow Jackets at one time owned them........:D

C.E. Byrd HS?

[stag hunter]

Erik Williams 'hands-to-the-face' rule, which was pretty much a result of Reggie White's consistent whining because he couldn't get through Erik Williams... after they invented the rule, Erik Williams' play was just not the same...


Definitely wasn't the car accident and debilitating leg injury..

[CaptainQuint]

I still can't figure how him pulling away from center isn't a false start........

:confused:

Manning, Saturday, and most of the Colts' O Line look flag-able on every play!
How do they get away with it?

[Cbz40]

C.E. Byrd HS?

Denison HS

[Tuna Helper]

Manning, Saturday, and most of the Colts' O Line look flag-able on every play!
How do they get away with it?

Peyton Manning is the poster boy for the good side of the NFL. Don't you think that the NFL WANTS him to win.

I don't buy into conspiracy theories, but I do believe that refs officiate games to help some teams beat others.

What do you think the refs really look at when they go under that hood for a replay timeout? The screen in that hood is broadcasting the commish, and he is giving out reasons for the ref to rule a certain way, and he is showing the real time Vegas lines to show how much ca$h is on the line if a given team wins (or loses).

If you told me that you knew of the "tuck" rule before that Brady play, I would call you a liar.

The NFL pulled that rule out of its arse to keep the Pats on the SB run post 9/11.

[trickblue]

Denison HS

Ahhh... well I didn't play at THS...

I live in 3A Atlanta now and we beat Denison 3 straight years when they were the top team in 4A... :D

I played at Lufkin...

[Cbz40]

Ahhh... well I didn't play at THS...

I live in 3A Atlanta now and we beat Denison 3 straight years when they were the top team in 4A... :D

I played at Lufkin...

Well it's been many a moon (Early 60s)..... We beat Texarkana two years straight for bi-district. In "62" we beat them twice on their home field.

Atlanta......Good ole East Texas.... :D

[dallasfaniac]

If you told me that you knew of the "tuck" rule before that Brady play, I would call you a liar.

Actually, Cowboy fans should have known of the rule because Quincy Carter had done the very same thing earlier in the year. Of course they didn't call it 'tuck rule' or anything, they just called it 'an incomplete forward pass'. He had also been saved of a fumble in 2003 by the exact same thing.

[REDVOLUTION]

It is not aginst the rule, he is not doing it to draw the team off-sides he is trying to confuse the defense by making them think he is changing the play.

I know it is not against the rule... once upon a time "pushoff" wasnt a rule, "helmet removal" wasnt a rule etc.... that is my point

understood about trying to confuse the defense

[HighTechDave]

Denison HS

crap, I graduated there....

[REDVOLUTION]

Correct, and if it starts working watch the proclamations of how brilliant it is because our player is doing it.


Or if it starts working they will create a new rule the "Romo false start" rule

[cowboyed]

you guys ever hear some of the crap peyton says when he is making "adjustments" listen on sunday, you will here him say "OMAHA!" atleast 50 times

At least change up the cadence and the geographical reference, Peyton. Burlington, Ithica, Germantown, Yazoo, Ponder, Dollyville and Lake Okeechobee would be a little more spellbinding.

[MichaelWinicki]

Not really.

But it still does nothing to negate the fact that it is annoying.

It reminds me of people when they use the "quotation marks" sign with their fingers when talking.

I could attack someone when I see that.


For some reason I think you would. :)

[MichaelWinicki]

Well it's been many a moon (Early 60s)..... We beat Texarkana two years straight for bi-district. In "62" we beat them twice on their home field.

Atlanta......Good ole East Texas.... :D


They had football in the 1860's? :)

[joseephuss]

If you told me that you knew of the "tuck" rule before that Brady play, I would call you a liar.

I knew about it. I had seen it called before. As soon as I saw the replay, I knew the officials were going to reverse the call based on the tuck rule. It is a dumb rule, but it was the right call at the time.

[fiveandcounting]

No just one that was not inspired by a Dallas Cowboy :laugh2:

Helmet rule - Emmitt
Pushoff rule - Irvin
Horsecollar - Roy

did I miss any?

an offensive player not being able to ush off is a relatively new rule? In what parallel nfl do you watch games? Chris Carter got away with it for years before Michael and its long been a rule

I saw a number of players take their helmet off before Emmit

oh yeah and there are just a few more than 3 rules in the nfl rulebook troll

[jazzcat22]

Not really.

But it still does nothing to negate the fact that it is annoying.

It reminds me of people when they use the "quotation marks" sign with their fingers when talking.

I could attack someone when I see that.

Or when someone says..I called..or I got a call...and puts their thumb and finger making like a phone. Now that is annoying and stupid. Just tell me, I'm not deaf, and don't need theatrics. :)

[REDVOLUTION]

an offensive player not being able to ush off is a relatively new rule? In what parallel nfl do you watch games? Chris Carter got away with it for years before Michael and its long been a rule

I saw a number of players take their helmet off before Emmit

oh yeah and there are just a few more than 3 rules in the nfl rulebook troll

If I remember correctly they didnt start calling the penalty on Irvin until later in his career. Regardless of when the rule was created. Defenders cried and then they started calling the penalty.

Yes, you saw a number of players take their helments off before Emmitt. The rule was implemented right after that.

Troll? thats cute.. get informed before you call someone a troll