Barry Sanders On Cold Pizza...

[Thomas82]

....this morning confessed that he didn't think Emmitt had the moves he had and was as nimble as he was. He said he always saw Emmitt as more of a power back. He joked that he wanted a piece of Emmitt in dancing and admitted he was a horrible dancer. He said LT was current back that reminded him the most of himself.

[ka0tik]

I still havent seen anyone after Barry with the same moves. not even LT.

[Glenn Carano]

....this morning confessed that he didn't think Emmitt had the moves he had and was as nimble as he was.

He's right.

[superpunk]

The Cowardly Lion is right.

[coogrfan]

Far be it from me to correct a legend like Barry, but LT couldn't be more different as a running back. Imo Tomlinson is a faster version of Emmitt.

[Thomas82]

He's right.

What Barry meant was that he uderestimated Emmitt's footwork.

[Aikbach]

LT is more Emmitt like then Barry like and that is not Cowboy koolaide talk but the truth of just about anyone who has watched him. He looks like 92-95 Emmitt.

[ROMOSAPIEN9]

The big difference between LT and Sanders, is that they don't pull LT in goal line situations.

[Thomas82]

The big difference between LT and Sanders, is that they don't pull LT in goal line situations.

That's a big difference.

[Doomsday101]

....this morning confessed that he didn't think Emmitt had the moves he had and was as nimble as he was. He said he always saw Emmitt as more of a power back. He joked that he wanted a piece of Emmitt in dancing and admitted he was a horrible dancer. He said LT was current back that reminded him the most of himself.

Barry is right. However I said it back when he and Emmitt were playing and say it today, if I had to go into a ball game with one or the other I take Smith because he brought more to the table that Barry did. Running, blocking, short yardage, redzone I take ES over Barry any day.

[Rampage]

The Cowardly Lion is right.
whats that supposed to mean?

[Thomas82]

Barry is right. However I said it back when he and Emmitt were playing and say it today, if I had to go into a ball game with one or the other I take Smith because he brought more to the table that Barry did. Running, blocking, short yardage, redzone I take ES over Barry any day.

That's exacactly right.

[Doomsday101]

The big 3 RB at the time were Sanders, Smith and Thurman Thomas and as much respect the ability of Sanders I would take both Emmitt Smith and Thurman Thomas over him if I was putting together an offense.

[DallasDW00ds0n]

that he quit

[EMMITTnROY]

Runningback
Emmitt > Barry

Dancer
Emmitt > Barry

[31smackdown]

Barry and Emmitt were always very competitive.. I remember a story about them trying to beat each other in different random events at a probowl one year, which was a funny read..

I dont think that anyone runs like Barry right now.. I swear he had ball bearings in his hips and his ability to start and stop and then accelarate again was incredible.

[Rampage]

Runningback
Emmitt > Barry

Dancer
Emmitt > Barry
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

[superpunk]

whats that supposed to mean?

The guy bailed on his team. It's not rocket surgery. He's right about his moves, though. He could say that about any runner ever, I'd wager.

[Alexander]

....this morning confessed that he didn't think Emmitt had the moves he had and was as nimble as he was. He said he always saw Emmitt as more of a power back.

Was this meant as an insult? If so, the desired effect wasn't attained.

[khiladi]

To me it sounds like a compliment regarding Emmitt's dancing skills...

[Yakuza Rich]

13 carries, 1 yard = Barry

3 Super Bowls = Emmitt


YAKUZA

[GimmeTheBall!]

Baring injury or other catastrophe, LT will become the greatest who ever was.
Then it will be, IMHO,

LT (possible yardage champ)
Barry Sanders (greatest moves)
Jim Brown (short seasons)
Emmitt Smith (yardage champ and a bunch of Super Bowls rings)

[Doomsday101]

Baring injury or other catastrophe, LT will become the greatest who ever was.
Then it will be, IMHO,

LT (possible yardage champ)
Barry Sanders (greatest moves)
Jim Brown (short seasons)
Emmitt Smith (yardage champ)

Playing many years and staying pretty much injury free will be the key for LT. A lot of guys will come close but it gets harder the longer you play.

[Rampage]

13 carries, 1 yard = Barry

3 Super Bowls = Emmitt


YAKUZA
you guys gotta stop. im a huge cowboy/emmitt fan. but if barry played as long as emmitt did and with the line dallas had. he would shatter the record

[REDVOLUTION]

The Cowardly Lion is right.



'tis true

:hammer:

[ROMOSAPIEN9]

On Barry Sanders....

"He don't catch like Emmitt. He don't block like Emmitt. He don't score touchdowns like Emmitt. We'll take Emmitt."____Nate Newton Circa 1995

[Doomsday101]

you guys gotta stop. im a huge cowboy/emmitt fan. but if barry played as long as emmitt did and with the line dallas had. he would shatter the record

Chances are your right, Sanders could have left the game as the all time leading rusher. He was a great player but I still take Smith and Thomas over him because of their all around game. In my opinion Sanders was the best pure runner but he did lack in other areas that both Smith and Thomas excelled at.

[EMMITTnROY]

you guys gotta stop. im a huge cowboy/emmitt fan. but if barry played as long as emmitt did and with the line dallas had. he would shatter the record
like a moth to the flame..

as soon as I saw "Barry Sanders" in the subject title, I knew that this exact line would be used by someone.. I'm just surprised that it took someone all the way until the second page to do it..

let me save everyone a whole lot of trouble..

Emmitt Smith was better than Barry Sanders..

[ROMOSAPIEN9]

like a moth to the flame..

as soon as I saw "Barry Sanders" in the subject title, I knew that this exact line would be used by someone.. I'm just surprised that it took someone all the way until the second page to do it..

let me save everyone a whole lot of trouble..

Emmitt Smith was better than Barry Sanders..

End of thread. :D

[ThreeSportStar80]

I consider LT more like Emmitt with more explosivness though because he's a little faster than number 22 was...

[Rampage]

like a moth to the flame..

as soon as I saw "Barry Sanders" in the subject title, I knew that this exact line would be used by someone.. I'm just surprised that it took someone all the way until the second page to do it..

let me save everyone a whole lot of trouble..

Emmitt Smith was better than Barry Sanders..
stop being a homer. barry sanders was the best runner to ever play the game

[Doomsday101]

stop being a homer. barry sanders was the best runner to ever play the game

Runner yes best RB I'd take ES over him. Emmitt could provide many things to the Cowboys that Sanders could not do.

[Thomas82]

you guys gotta stop. im a huge cowboy/emmitt fan. but if barry played as long as emmitt did and with the line dallas had. he would shatter the record

The offensive line argument is a cop-out.

[jem88]

Was this meant as an insult? If so, the desired effect wasn't attained. I seriously doubt that was the desired effect.

[superpunk]

stop being a homer. barry sanders was the best runner to ever play the game

Stop being a Barry Sanders homer. Homer.

[jem88]

stop being a homer. barry sanders was the best runner to ever play the game He didn't come up big in the big games like Emmitt did. I'd take Emmitt.

[Thomas82]

I seriously doubt that was the desired effect.

In a previous post I said, what Barry meant was that he underestimated Emmitt's footwork and that he saw Emmitt as more of a power back.

[random Cs]

stop being a homer. barry sanders was the best runner to ever play the game That would be Jim Brown.

[Doomsday101]

The offensive line argument is a cop-out.

I agree. I did not see any other Dallas RB do anything when Emmitt was out of the game due to injury or during 2 games he missed due to a contract dispute.

[jem88]

Far be it from me to correct a legend like Barry, but LT couldn't be more different as a running back. Imo Tomlinson is a faster version of Emmitt. I think Barry was being generous. There's nobody around now who has moves like Barry. The guy was a once-in-a-lifer. I'd still take Emmitt though.

[Yakuza Rich]

you guys gotta stop. im a huge cowboy/emmitt fan. but if barry played as long as emmitt did and with the line dallas had. he would shatter the record


I don't believe it.

Many Detroit O-Linemen complained that Barry would never follow the design of the play and would cut back and lose yards, making them look bad (he also had two perennial Pro Bowl O-Linemen in Kevin Glover and Lomas Brown along with Herman Moore at WR).

Barry's running style was condusive to a lot of carries for a loss, which help kill drives even before they can get started. When Emmitt was in his prime and if he played with the Lions, he would've never had 13 carries for 1 yard against the Packers. Just not going to happen.

Barry = Highlight Reel

Emmitt = Great Running Back.



YAKUZA

[superpunk]

I agree. I did not see any other Dallas RB do anything when Emmitt was out of the game due to injury or during 2 games he missed due to a contract dispute.
Especially considering Emmitt did his thing at every level, with success. I guess his high school and Florida just had superior Olines, too. :laugh2:

[jem88]

In a previous post I said, what Barry meant was that he underestimated Emmitt's footwork and that he saw Emmitt as more of a power back. And I'm basically agreeing with your sentiments.

[Thomas82]

I agree. I did not see any other Dallas RB do anything when Emmitt was out of the game due to injury or during 2 games he missed due to a contract dispute.

Not only that, in Emmitt's first 2 years in the league he made the Pro Bowl and NONE of his linemen made it. He was the ONLY Cowboy to make the Pro Bowl his rookie year. When he won his first rushing title none of them made it. Barry had at least one lineman make it in the years he won the rushing title.

[Doomsday101]

Especially considering Emmitt did his thing at every level, with success. I guess his high school and Florida just had superior Olines, too. :laugh2:

I agree. I remember the 1st time I saw Emmitt play at Florida and came away telling my dad man I would love to have that guy, little did I know we would end up with him. Emmitt had the ability to break long runs and did, he also could grind out yards for you and was a killer in the redzone not to mention how many times he picked up a blitzer to buy Aikman enough time to hit a big play down the field.

[BigDFan5]

stop being a homer. barry sanders was the best runner to ever play the game


Thats nice for the highlight reel generation, but if you want to see the best RUNNING BACK of all time look no farther than #22 http://www.cowboysvids.com/topdl/download.pl?file=emmitt-tribute-(divx).avi

[Cochese]

The guy bailed on his team. It's not rocket surgery. He's right about his moves, though. He could say that about any runner ever, I'd wager.


Does anyone thats not a Lions fan actually blame him for bailing?

Getting your *** handed to you on a platter 10 or so times a year cant be appealing to anyone.

[Sam I Am]

let me save everyone a whole lot of trouble..

Emmitt Smith was better than Barry Sanders..

Conjecture.

As a pure runner, Sanders was far better than Emmitt. Barry Sanders avg 5 yards per carry while Emmitt only avg 4.2 yards per carry. As an all around back Emmitt did some of the other things better.

To play ten years in the NFL with over 3,000 rushing attempts and STILL avg five yards per carry is phenomenal. Emmitt absolutely cannot compete with Barry Sanders as a pure runner.

[Doomsday101]

Does anyone thats not a Lions fan actually blame him for bailing?

Getting your *** handed to you on a platter 10 or so times a year cant be appealing to anyone.

I understood his frustration and evidently it was to the point he felt like the Lions organization was not as serious about winning as he was. I hated to see him quite but it is his body and his career. It is not like he was trying to force more money out of the Lions.

[Thomas82]

13 carries, 1 yard = Barry

3 Super Bowls = Emmitt


YAKUZA

Actually, it was 13 carries for minus-1 yard. That was in the Wild Card game of the 1994 season.

[The30YardSlant]

Runningback
Emmitt > Barry

You must be joking. I love Emmitt, but both Walter Payton and Barry Sanders were better backs.

[mwj473]

Getting your *** handed to you on a platter 10 or so times a year cant be appealing to anyone.

Actually, I think he was part of that problem. His running style is not one that would lead to a lot of wins for teams. He would run 9 times for like 5 yards then break off a 45 yarder and make his stats look good. That's how he had such a high YPC. Meanwhile, during his 1st 9 carries, his team had to punt 4 times because he put them in 2nd & 3rd and long instead of sticking his nose in there and getting 2-3 yards.

All of these younger fans only see the 45+ yard runs on highlight reels & never see all the negative plays he had (which he leads the NFL all time in negative plays).

Barry = most exciting runner ever, not condusive to WINNING
Emmitt = most complete back ever, nothing but WINNING

[Thomas82]

You must be joking. I love Emmitt, but both Walter Payton and Barry Sanders were better backs.

I would put Walter Payton and Jim Brown only, ahead of Emmitt.

[CrazyCowboy]

Funny, I just heard Barry on the Tim Brando show driving home......he seemed like a nice guy!

[ravidubey]

....this morning confessed that he didn't think Emmitt had the moves he had and was as nimble as he was.

Emmitt would be the first to agere with him.

[PoetTree]

"Barry Sanders is very exciting with the things he can do with the football. And if I'm a fan & I want to watch someone run with the ball, I'd want to watch Barry Sanders. But if I'm a coach & I want to win championships, I'd want Emmitt Smith."


And I'm thinking, like, end of story.

;)

[Cochese]

Actually, I think he was part of that problem. His running style is not one that would lead to a lot of wins for teams. He would run 9 times for like 5 yards then break off a 45 yarder and make his stats look good. That's how he had such a high YPC. Meanwhile, during his 1st 9 carries, his team had to punt 4 times because he put them in 2nd & 3rd and long instead of sticking his nose in there and getting 2-3 yards.

All of these younger fans only see the 45+ yard runs on highlight reels & never see all the negative plays he had (which he leads the NFL all time in negative plays).

Barry = most exciting runner ever, not condusive to WINNING
Emmitt = most complete back ever, nothing but WINNING

The one constant in the years with Barry and without Barry is that the Lions SUCK. Its the organization, by far.

[jimmy40]

like a moth to the flame..

as soon as I saw "Barry Sanders" in the subject title, I knew that this exact line would be used by someone.. I'm just surprised that it took someone all the way until the second page to do it..

let me save everyone a whole lot of trouble..

Emmitt Smith was better than Barry Sanders..and Walter Payton was better than either one.

[mwj473]

The one constant in the years with Barry and without Barry is that the Lions SUCK. Its the organization, by far.

I will not disagree, but he did not help them in building a winner. He helped sell tickets, jerseys, and create a buzz about the Lions. Maybe the buzz was just about him, not the team

[jimmy40]

I agree. I remember the 1st time I saw Emmitt play at Florida and came away telling my dad man I would love to have that guy, little did I know we would end up with him. Emmitt had the ability to break long runs and did, he also could grind out yards for you and was a killer in the redzone not to mention how many times he picked up a blitzer to buy Aikman enough time to hit a big play down the field.You must have saw him in person.

[Doomsday101]

You must have saw him in person.

I saw many Florida game, I enjoy watching college football and see many Florida games as well as SEC game here. Never attended a Florida game.

[jimmy40]

Actually, I think he was part of that problem. His running style is not one that would lead to a lot of wins for teams. He would run 9 times for like 5 yards then break off a 45 yarder and make his stats look good. That's how he had such a high YPC. Meanwhile, during his 1st 9 carries, his team had to punt 4 times because he put them in 2nd & 3rd and long instead of sticking his nose in there and getting 2-3 yards.

All of these younger fans only see the 45+ yard runs on highlight reels & never see all the negative plays he had (which he leads the NFL all time in negative plays).

Barry = most exciting runner ever, not condusive to WINNING
Emmitt = most complete back ever, nothing but WINNINGI love the way people like to discredit long runs as if they shouldn't count. I bet Barry also leads the NFL in having the most defensive players in the backfield every time he was handed the ball.

[ringmaster]

The big 3 RB at the time were Sanders, Smith and Thurman Thomas and as much respect the ability of Sanders I would take both Emmitt Smith and Thurman Thomas over him if I was putting together an offense. Better watch it the rotoball Sanders apologists their going to tell why Emmitt, isn't in the same league as Sanders.


Barry Sanders, was a terrific RB no doubt about it easily in the Top 5 Greatest RBs to ever play the game the things he did was just sick and no running back in today's era can mimic what he did not LT, nor anybody.

Emmitt Smith, will never get the respect he deserves from most media and fans alike it was the O-Line that made Emmitt, most would say but Barry, made his O-Line that is bogus the Lions O-Line of the 90s wasn't chopped liver they had a young Lomas Brown, and I need help on the other names so if anyone know who the other Lions O-Linemen were tell me.

Emmitt, was the perfect fit for the 90s Cowboys offense he may not had the brash and flash of Sanders but he had something to me that Sanders, didn't have patience to find a hole not dance around looking for a hole ala Sanders he was a very good short yardage back and getting those tough yards.

I too would take Emmitt, over Barry because Emmitt, had to do more for his team.

[jimmy40]

I saw many Florida game, I enjoy watching college football and see many Florida games as well as SEC game here. Never attended a Florida game.Correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm sure you will but wasn't Florida banned from TV appearances Emmitt's last two years there? I thought that was why he was so far under the radar coming out of college.

[The30YardSlant]

and Walter Payton was better than either one.

Barry Sanders would have shattered, I mean SHATTERED, the rushing yardage record. Had Sanders played 15 season like Emmitt did, he was on pace for 22,903 yards.

[Doomsday101]

Better watch it the rotoball Sanders apologists their going to tell why Emmitt, isn't in the same league as Sanders.


Barry Sanders, was a terrific RB no doubt about it easily in the Top 5 Greatest RBs to ever play the game the things he did was just sick and no running back in today's era can mimic what he did not LT, nor anybody.

Emmitt Smith, will never get the respect he deserves from most media and fans alike it was the O-Line that made Emmitt, most would say but Barry, made his O-Line that is bogus the Lions O-Line of the 90s wasn't chopped liver they had a young Lomas Brown, and I need help on the other names so if anyone know who the other Lions O-Linemen were tell me.

Emmitt, was the perfect fit for the 90s Cowboys offense he may not had the brash and flash of Sanders but he had something to me that Sanders, didn't have patience to find a hole not dance around looking for a hole ala Sanders he was a very good short yardage back and getting those tough yards.

I too would take Emmitt, over Barry because Emmitt, had to do more for his team.

I think Barry Sanders was great and enjoyed watching him play the game and he clearly could make some highlight runs but Emmitt could do a lot of things Barry could not do and those things are critical to winning football games. Short yardage, the blocking being able to grind out the tough yards as well as the ability to break long runs and he did some act as if Emmitt could not make the long runs that is pure non-sense or they just never watched the man play

[dbair1967]

Correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm sure you will but wasn't Florida banned from TV appearances Emmitt's last two years there? I thought that was why he was so far under the radar coming out of college.

Emmitt was not "under the radar" coming out of college...many expected him to go early in the top-10 but he slipped, mostly because people over-valued a slow 40 time he ran. They didnt bother to look past it and see what we saw once he got here, that the guy broke off long run after long run

David

[dbair1967]

Barry Sanders would have shattered, I mean SHATTERED, the rushing yardage record. Had Sanders played 15 season like Emmitt did, he was on pace for 22,903 yards.

of course you kinda assume he'd have kept up the same pace, when in all liklihood he would not have

David

[Doomsday101]

Barry Sanders would have shattered, I mean SHATTERED, the rushing yardage record. Had Sanders played 15 season like Emmitt did, he was on pace for 22,903 yards.

If he played that long but he didn't and as good as sanders was he could not block very well, he could not pick up the tough yards. Yes he would break a long one but he would just as easily lose 3 or 4 yards on a play. Sander was a human highlight real but things he did not excell at is part of what makes a RB great. Pure runner Sanders hands down all around RB Emmitt any day over Barry

[jimmy40]

Barry Sanders would have shattered, I mean SHATTERED, the rushing yardage record. Had Sanders played 15 season like Emmitt did, he was on pace for 22,903 yards.no doubt the only reason Emmitt has the record is because Barry didn't care about it but Walter was still better.

[dbair1967]

I love the way people like to discredit long runs as if they shouldn't count. I bet Barry also leads the NFL in having the most defensive players in the backfield every time he was handed the ball.

I dont think anyone discounts long runs at all, in fact Emmitt for several years ranked at the top of the league in long runs...most people dont remember that

as for your other comment, Sanders certainly didnt have the most defensive players in the backfield everytime he touched the ball...saying that proves you probably never saw any (or many) of his games...their OL was pretty good and in fact had two or three guys who made numerous probowls while Sanders was there

you also have to factor in that Sanders ran almost exclusively from a 3-4 WR formation for the majority of his career. Teams didnt stack 8-9 guys in the box or run blitz very much because of the style of offense they played...he ran against defenses that were spread out alot.

David

[Doomsday101]

Correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm sure you will but wasn't Florida banned from TV appearances Emmitt's last two years there? I thought that was why he was so far under the radar coming out of college.

Evidently the games I saw him in were not banned, I saw he rip Miami apart. I don't know what year Flordia was banned but I clearly remember seeing Emmitt running the ball for Flordia

[Crown Royal]

I love the way people like to discredit long runs as if they shouldn't count. I bet Barry also leads the NFL in having the most defensive players in the backfield every time he was handed the ball.

No - he probably has the record for dancing so long in the backfield that the defenders got there. If you watch NFL Films, you'll find a coach (can't remember who) who broke down several game films and talked about how awful his RB vision was - the guy missed holes all the time, he just happened to be a joy stick.

Something he DOES lead the NFL in - most yards LOST from scrimmage.

[Crown Royal]

BTW - he's crazy to think that LT runs like him. Just because LT is the BEST (by far) RB in the league and has been since his second year, does not mean he runs anything like Sanders.

IMO - it is useless to compare LT - the guy runs like LT. He is one of my favorite players in the league - I love watching guys that you KNOW will go into the annals as a great one.

[jimmy40]

I dont think anyone discounts long runs at all, in fact Emmitt for several years ranked at the top of the league in long runs...most people dont remember that

as for your other comment, Sanders certainly didnt have the most defensive players in the backfield everytime he touched the ball...saying that proves you probably never saw any (or many) of his games...their OL was pretty good and in fact had two or three guys who made numerous probowls while Sanders was there

you also have to factor in that Sanders ran almost exclusively from a 3-4 WR formation for the majority of his career. Teams didnt stack 8-9 guys in the box or run blitz very much because of the style of offense they played...he ran against defenses that were spread out alot.

DavidYeah Barry lead the league in negative yardage plays because he just stood back there with the ball and waited for someone to rush in.:bang2:

[EMMITTnROY]

Honestly, this argument on a DALLAS COWBOYS message board just makes me sick..

We have a Dallas Cowboy that:

-has more rushing yards than anyone in NFL history, the most sacred record in football..

-has more rushing touchdowns than anyone in NFL history..

-was the most important piece in winning 3 Super Bowls..

-has more playoff rushing yards than anyone in NFL history..

-has more playoff rushing touchdowns than anyone in NFL history..

-won 4 rushing titles

-was an NFL MVP

-was a Super Bowl MVP


basically, the most successful and decorated runningback in NFL history.. if you combine NFL, college, and high school, he is by far and away the most successful football player of all-time.. any way you measure it: championships, stats, heart, whatever..

and here we have DALLAS COWBOYS FANS arguing against him!! saying that a guy that leads the NFL in all-time yardage LOST is better than him!! saying that a guy that had to be taken out of goal-line situations and short yardage situations only to be replaced by a fullback or 2nd string halfback is better than him!!

this thread makes me want to puke..

[jimmy40]

No - he probably has the record for dancing so long in the backfield that the defenders got there. If you watch NFL Films, you'll find a coach (can't remember who) who broke down several game films and talked about how awful his RB vision was - the guy missed holes all the time, he just happened to be a joy stick.

Something he DOES lead the NFL in - most yards LOST from scrimmage.Wow, Barry Sanders RB vision was awful. OK.

[dbair1967]

Yeah Barry lead the league in negative yardage plays because he just stood back there with the ball and waited for someone to rush in.:bang2:

alot of times he caused the negative running plays

the infamous -1 yd playoff game against Green bay was one of the worst games I ever saw a RB play, and several teammates called Sanders out on numerous occasions (Spielman did a few times) for playing with no heart or faking injuries...some people act like he was Superman, but the guy had alot of flaws too and was not a "winner"...Emmitt was a "winner" and a true warrior who was the best all around RB (by far) from 1990-1995

David

[Doomsday101]

Yeah Barry lead the league in negative yardage plays because he just stood back there with the ball and waited for someone to rush in.:bang2:

No but he did try to make big plays instead of lowering his shoulders and getting back to the line or pick the 1 or 2 yards. Sander tried to make every run a home run and would reverse feild trying to break it and many times cost his teams more yards lost. Sander in 1 run could put 80 yards up but what about the other 25 or 30 carries? Barry was a great pure runner no question about it but Smith provided more with his ability as a RB.

[Crown Royal]

For all those who tout the Cowboy's OL and it's greatness.

Fine. Then who other than Larry Allen is going to make the HOF? If they are responsible, I'm assuming we'll see some Erik Williams, Tuinei, maybe a Stepnoski? Right? yes?







I didn't think so.

[joseephuss]

Correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm sure you will but wasn't Florida banned from TV appearances Emmitt's last two years there? I thought that was why he was so far under the radar coming out of college.

Guys like Emmitt don't go under the radar. If they have talent, scouts and coaches find way to watch them play. Walter Payton played for a small school in an era where TV still wasn't that big, but every team knew about him. Everyone knew about Jerry Rice even though he also played at a small school. Emmitt was well known and well scouted. Teams passed on Emmitt and it wasn't due to him being under the radar. The other teams just messed up. Only Detroit(Barry Sanders) and Buffalo(Thurman Thomas) could afford passing on Emmitt because they had good running backs. Maybe a third team in San Diego who had Marion Butts could possibly justify in passing on Emmitt since they landed Junior Seau.

[dbair1967]

Honestly, this argument on a DALLAS COWBOYS message board just makes me sick..

We have a Dallas Cowboy that:

-has more rushing yards than anyone in NFL history, the most sacred record in football..

-has more rushing touchdowns than anyone in NFL history..

-was the most important piece in winning 3 Super Bowls..

-has more playoff rushing yards than anyone in NFL history..

-has more playoff rushing touchdowns than anyone in NFL history..

-won 4 rushing titles

-was an NFL MVP

-was a Super Bowl MVP


basically, the most successful and decorated runningback in NFL history.. if you combine NFL, college, and high school, he is by far and away the most successful football player of all-time.. any way you measure it: championships, stats, heart, whatever..

and here we have DALLAS COWBOYS FANS arguing against him!! saying that a guy that leads the NFL in all-time yardage LOST is better than him!! saying that a guy that had to be taken out of goal-line situations and short yardage situations only to be replaced by a fullback or 2nd string halfback is better than him!!

this thread makes me want to puke..

hey its typical of alot of the clods on here...hate on the great player here, but envy other team's players who clearly dont stack up...I dont understand it either...we have the most fickle collection of fans of any team in sports

David

[jimmy40]

Honestly, this argument on a DALLAS COWBOYS message board just makes me sick..

We have a Dallas Cowboy that:

-has more rushing yards than anyone in NFL history, the most sacred record in football..

-has more rushing touchdowns than anyone in NFL history..

-was the most important piece in winning 3 Super Bowls..

-has more playoff rushing yards than anyone in NFL history..

-has more playoff rushing touchdowns than anyone in NFL history..

-won 4 rushing titles

-was an NFL MVP

-was a Super Bowl MVP


basically, the most successful and decorated runningback in NFL history.. if you combine NFL, college, and high school, he is by far and away the most successful football player of all-time.. any way you measure it: championships, stats, heart, whatever..

and here we have DALLAS COWBOYS FANS arguing against him!! saying that a guy that leads the NFL in all-time yardage LOST is better than him!! saying that a guy that had to be taken out of goal-line situations and short yardage situations only to be replaced by a fullback or 2nd string halfback is better than him!!

this thread makes me want to puke.. People discrediting what Barry did just because he wan't a Cowboy makes me want to puke. I never said Barry was better than Emmitt but I did say Walter was better than either one, and he was.

[MichaelWinicki]

Barry is right. However I said it back when he and Emmitt were playing and say it today, if I had to go into a ball game with one or the other I take Smith because he brought more to the table that Barry did. Running, blocking, short yardage, redzone I take ES over Barry any day.

There's some merit to that train of thought I will admit.

[REDVOLUTION]

There's some merit to that train of thought I will admit.


Some??

Seems factual to me

[MichaelWinicki]

hey its typical of alot of the clods on here...hate on the great player here, but envy other team's players who clearly dont stack up...I dont understand it either...we have the most fickle collection of fans of any team in sports

David

There is some merit in that opinion too...


Just from the "running" aspect without figuring the blocking, receiving and the ability to play week after week, I'd have to rate Sanders, Walter, Eric Dickerson, OJ and Tony D. as being superior runners.

[MichaelWinicki]

Some??

Seems factual to me

For the whole "ball of wax" I'd rate Emmitt higher, from just the running aspect I have others that I think are slightly superior.

[EMMITTnROY]

hey its typical of alot of the clods on here...hate on the great player here, but envy other team's players who clearly dont stack up...I dont understand it either...we have the most fickle collection of fans of any team in sports

David
it would seriously be like a Chicago Bulls message board having fans that are arguing that Larry Bird was better than Michael Jordan..

[mwj473]

it would seriously be like a Chicago Bulls message board having fans that are arguing that Larry Bird was better than Michael Jordan..

I would seriously like to know how many of the people that think Barry is better actually saw him play and not his highlights. If people saw him play and have that opinion, then fine, to each his own. But if you never saw him actually play entire games, you shouldn't be chiming in.

[ilovejerry]

Honestly, this argument on a DALLAS COWBOYS message board just makes me sick..

We have a Dallas Cowboy that:

-has more rushing yards than anyone in NFL history, the most sacred record in football..

-has more rushing touchdowns than anyone in NFL history..

-was the most important piece in winning 3 Super Bowls..

-has more playoff rushing yards than anyone in NFL history..

-has more playoff rushing touchdowns than anyone in NFL history..

-won 4 rushing titles

-was an NFL MVP

-was a Super Bowl MVP


basically, the most successful and decorated runningback in NFL history.. if you combine NFL, college, and high school, he is by far and away the most successful football player of all-time.. any way you measure it: championships, stats, heart, whatever..

and here we have DALLAS COWBOYS FANS arguing against him!! saying that a guy that leads the NFL in all-time yardage LOST is better than him!! saying that a guy that had to be taken out of goal-line situations and short yardage situations only to be replaced by a fullback or 2nd string halfback is better than him!!

this thread makes me want to puke..


I agree with you 100% Emmittnroy
FACTS SPEAK LOUDER THEN WORDS

you are what you are !!!!


Read Emmitt's Stats compared to Barry's
Please dont be an idiot,
no comparison, 3 superbowls
SHUT THE F Up.
Emmitt was a King.

[Tuna Helper]

Who cares what a quitter thinks?

...except for Tiki Barber.

[jem88]

Better watch it the rotoball Sanders apologists their going to tell why Emmitt, isn't in the same league as Sanders.

I hardly think Barry Sanders has any apologists. Defenders maybe, but apologists are reserved for the Quincy Carters of the world.

[NIBGoldenchild]

There is a whole lot of hyperbole in this thread. People need to keep their man-crushes out of an argument like this. Why are people pretending like Barry only broke on big run a game? He usually had several. And why are the people on the other side of the argument pretending like Emmitt was this slow-footed ape who never had a run past 15 yards?

Check your homerism at the door.

[Da Hammer]

I remember loving to watch Barry back then even more sometimes than Smith but i lost almost all respect for him when he quit and now to be honest i could care less what he is doing with his life. I love emmitt but he Sanders should be the ALL TIME Leading rusher not emmitt but instead he... freaking quit...

[Bizwah]

There is a whole lot of hyperbole in this thread. People need to keep their man-crushes out of an argument like this. Why are people pretending like Barry only broke on big run a game? He usually had several. And why are the people on the other side of the argument pretending like Emmitt was this slow-footed ape who never had a run past 15 yards?

Check your homerism at the door.

Probably the same reason people like to pretend that Barry Sanders played with five High School OL.

They act like he had a sucky OL....An OL that included Kevin Glover and Lomas Brown....two pretty good OL.

I hear this arguement all the time. People are amazed by what they saw from Barry....and rightfully so. But Emmitt also had some amazing runs.

I also hate hearing how, "If Barry had kept playing......"

That's exactly why I choose Emmitt every time over Barry.

Emmitt was driven....He was goal-oriented...He WANTED to be the best. He WANTED to win....and he did.

Barry, at times, didn't seem to care.

So, maybe Barry would've had 100,000 yards behind the Dallas OL. But, I seriously doubt the Cowboys would've won 3 Super Bowls in four years with Barry.

[Star4Ever]

you guys gotta stop. im a huge cowboy/emmitt fan. but if barry played as long as emmitt did and with the line dallas had. he would shatter the record

I hear this all the time and I'm here to tell you this is crap. Why? Yes, Emmitt had a great o-line that he ran behind, but the Dallas line of that era didn't fit Sander's style of running. Emmitt did most of his damage between the tackles. Our o-line then was a physical drive-blocking line, which fit Emmitt's running style like a glove. Sanders liked to dance around in the backfield looking to cut back (and back and back...). He was not a north-south runner than fit our o-line. We didn't do a lot of pulling back then, which is what Sanders liked. Again, our line just kicked the guys' in front of them. Nothing fancy, and it was good for Emmitt, not so much for Barry.

[Star4Ever]

Barry Sanders would have shattered, I mean SHATTERED, the rushing yardage record. Had Sanders played 15 season like Emmitt did, he was on pace for 22,903 yards.

IF my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

Sanders was a much more flashier runner than Emmitt. He made many mouth-dropping runs and was very exciting to watch. He was a fantastic RB. I'd put him at # 2 or # 3. He was a better pure runner than Emmitt.

However, Emmitt was tougher, stronger, had better vision, was more intelligent because he followed his blockers much better, was a much better blocker, and was a much better receiver. He currently holds the records for most rushing yards and most rushing TDs. Nuff said. Let's put it this way. If the game is on the line and you have 2nd and goal at the 4, who would you give the ball to, Emmitt or Barry? Case closed. Emmitt was a better all-around back and more importantly, Emmitt was a WINNER.

[SultanOfSix]

Sanders was the better runner. Emmitt was the better running back. And the latter is what truly matters.

[Rampage]

IF my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

Sanders was a much more flashier runner than Emmitt. He made many mouth-dropping runs and was very exciting to watch. He was a fantastic RB. I'd put him at # 2 or # 3. He was a better pure runner than Emmitt.

However, Emmitt was tougher, stronger, had better vision, was more intelligent because he followed his blockers much better, was a much better blocker, and was a much better receiver. He currently holds the records for most rushing yards and most rushing TDs. Nuff said. Let's put it this way. If the game is on the line and you have 2nd and goal at the 4, who would you give the ball to, Emmitt or Barry? Case closed. Emmitt was a better all-around back and more importantly, Emmitt was a WINNER.
like the 3rd and 4th and 1 against philly? c'mon now. they are usually 1 and 2 on most peoples lists. that is all

[The30YardSlant]

IF my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

While this is true, aunts, uncles, and potential nuts have nothing to do with this discussion

[Star4Ever]

While this is true, aunts, uncles, and potential nuts have nothing to do with this discussion

Nah, this point could be introduced into any conversation. LOL

[scottsp]

I don't know how it got to Barry vs. Emmitt because they're both great backs. The debate goes on, I guess.

I'm just glad the dance nonsense is now in the past. That needed to go.

[DallasDomination]

Emmitt was good in his own way...He would always find the hole and hit it I've never seen anyone run like Barry...

[wileedog]

You must be joking. I love Emmitt, but both Walter Payton and Barry Sanders were better backs.

Walter maybe, Barry no way.

Barry was a hell of a lot of fun to watch, but he was 15 carries for 10 yards followed by a 40 yard run that too your breath away.

Emmit was a reliable 4 or 5 yards per carry, with the occasionaly 40 yard run that took your breath away.

Any coach in the league would take Emmit in a heartbeat, because you could never establish a grinding running game with Barry. He just ran outside the play too often and took a loss (Parcell would not only have cut him, he would have shot him).

Barry was the ESPN poster boy - human highight reel . BUt he wasn't as effective as an every down back as Emmit or Sweetness.

[Jack-Reacher]

Emmitt James Smith III (born May 15, 1969) was one of the most prolific running backs to ever play professional football. He was only the seventh player in NFL history to carry the title of all-time rushing leader, and is the current holder of the title. He passed his childhood hero Walter Payton in a game against Seattle on October 27, 2002. He was born in Pensacola, Florida.

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Smith attended Escambia High School in Pensacola, Florida and finished his career with 8804 rushing yards and 106 touchdowns.

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He starred at the University of Florida, where he set 58 school records, including the single game rushing record in his very first start, en route to winning the SEC Freshman of the Year award and would finish 9th in the Heisman Trophy vote in 1987. He left Florida after his junior year with 3,928 rushing yards and 36 touchdowns. In 1989, Smith was named a first-team All-American, SEC Player of the Year and finished 7th in the Heisman voting after amassing 1,599 yards and 16 TDs.

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Using draft picks they had acquired in the trade for Herschel Walker the year before, the Dallas Cowboys moved up four spots in the draft to take Smith with the 17th overall pick in 1990 and the second running back taken in that draft. He subsequently became an integral part of their three Super Bowl championship teams in four years following the 1992-93 and 1995 seasons. Smith led the NFL in rushing four times (1991-1993, 1995), rushing touchdowns 3 times (1992, 1994, 1995), was the league's MVP in 1993, the MVP of Super Bowl XXVIII, and made eight Pro Bowls throughout his career. (Among running backs selected to the Pro Bowl, he's behind only Barry Sanders, who has 10, and the late Walter Payton, who has 9.) In his 3 Super Bowls, Smith rushed 71 times for 289 yards, caught 11 passes for 56 yards, and scored 5 touchdowns. His 5 rushing touchdowns are a career Super Bowl record.

Smith is one of only three players in Cowboys history with three career 100-point seasons, and he is the only non-kicker to accomplish the feat. The century mark became a big number in Smith's career, having rushed for 100 yards in 155-of-326 games dating back to high school (45-of-49 at Escambia High School, 25-of-34 at Florida, 81-of-202 at Dallas, including playoffs, and two-of-25 at Arizona). His 45 100-yard games in high school is still the national record, and in NFL annals, Smith's 78 100-yard rushing games makes him the NFL's all-time leader - just ahead of Walter Payton (77) and Barry Sanders (76). Included in Smith's league record 78 regular season 100-yard rushing games are 18 days with over 150 yards, which is the fourth highest total of 150-yard games in NFL history.

On February 27, 2003, Smith volunteered to be released by the Cowboys, rather than put owner Jerry Jones in the awkward position of cutting him to fit under the league's salary cap. He signed a two-year deal with the Arizona Cardinals on March 26. After finishing 2003 as a backup, he began the 2004 season as the Cardinals starting running back and accounted for 937 rushing yards and nine touchdowns on 267 carries. His 267 carries marked his highest total since 2000 and his nine touchdowns were his highest total since scoring 11 times in 1999. He also caught 15 passes for 105 yards for Arizona. On October 3, he posted his best game as a Cardinal against New Orleans, totaling 127 rushing yards on 21 carries (6.0 avg.), including a 29-yard scoring jaunt (his longest as a Cardinal). Smith also became the oldest player in NFL history ever to complete his first career touchdown pass, tossing a 21-yard scoring strike to fullback Obafemi Ayanbadejo in a game against New Orleans. The Saints game also marked his 77th career regular season 100-yard rushing game, tying Payton for the most in NFL history. On October 24, Smith broke Payton's record for career 100-yard rushing games when he totaled 106 yards and a touchdown on 26 carries against Seattle. Then in November, he totaled 67 yards and two touchdowns on 19 carries against the N.Y. Giants to become the only player in NFL history to eclipse the 18,000 career rushing yard mark.

In 2005, Smith signed a new contract with Dallas for one-day and no money so he could retire as a Cowboy. On February 3, 2005, at a press conference in Jacksonville, Florida three days before Super Bowl XXXIX, he announced his retirement after fifteen seasons in the NFL.

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Smith was one of the best running backs in NFL history.
Smith is the first player in NFL history to have five straight seasons with over 1,400 rushing yards. Smith and Jim Brown are the only players with seven straight 10-touchdown seasons to start their career. With 1,021 yards rushing in 2001, Smith became the first player in NFL history to rush for 1,000 yards in 11 consecutive seasons and the first to post 11 1,000-yard rushing seasons in a career. He is also the NFL's all-time leader in rushing attempts with 4,409.

Smith currently holds the NFL record in career rushing yards with 18,355 and is the only player in NFL history to rush for over 18,000 yards, breaking the previous record held by Walter Payton, on October 27, 2002. He leads all running backs with 166 career touchdowns, and his 175 total touchdowns ranks him second only Jerry Rice's 207 touchdowns. The sum of his rushing yards, receiving yards (3,224) and fumble return yards(-15), gave him a total of 21,564 yards from the line of scrimmage, making him one of only four players in NFL history to eclipse the 21,000-combined yards mark.

Smith also accumulated a number of NFL postseason records, including rushing touchdowns (19), consecutive games with a rushing touchdown (nine) and 100-yard rushing games (seven). His 1,586 yards rushing is also tops on the NFL postseason chart, and he shares the total playoff touchdown mark of 21 with Thurman Thomas. Smith is one of only five NFL players who have amassed over 10,000 career-rushing yards and 400 career receptions.

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Beyond his statistical excellence, Smith is noted for being very durable with excellent vision, great balance, a competitive heart, and one of the most complete players to ever play the position of running back. Smith excelled at running between the tackles as a highly efficient downhill runner skilled at cutting through quickly changing gaps toward "daylight", but was also skilled in running to the outside, and catching the ball as a receiver. In the mold of Walter Payton, Smith was a great blocker in pass protection - the great blocking fullback Daryl "Moose" Johnston noted that Smith was better in pass protection than he was. During his career, he was often compared to Detroit Lions Hall of Fame runningback Barry Sanders as both men were extremely successful for their respective teams during the decade of the 1990's. While he was not known to be the human highlight reel Sanders was, critics argued that Smith was more of a complete back that will get you the hard yards. A modest and humble Emmitt Smith still states that to this day, Barry was the better back.
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Interesting that even with all of his accolades, Emmitt himself will tell you that Barry Sanders was a better back. I think that can be argued, and it has in this thread. The thing in my mind that sets him apart was his class. He was the consumate team player. Rate him wherever you will, there has never been a better football player than #22.

Jon

[Bob Sacamano]

Honestly, this argument on a DALLAS COWBOYS message board just makes me sick..

We have a Dallas Cowboy that:

-has more rushing yards than anyone in NFL history, the most sacred record in football..

-has more rushing touchdowns than anyone in NFL history..

-was the most important piece in winning 3 Super Bowls..

-has more playoff rushing yards than anyone in NFL history..

-has more playoff rushing touchdowns than anyone in NFL history..

-won 4 rushing titles

-was an NFL MVP

-was a Super Bowl MVP


basically, the most successful and decorated runningback in NFL history.. if you combine NFL, college, and high school, he is by far and away the most successful football player of all-time.. any way you measure it: championships, stats, heart, whatever..

and here we have DALLAS COWBOYS FANS arguing against him!! saying that a guy that leads the NFL in all-time yardage LOST is better than him!! saying that a guy that had to be taken out of goal-line situations and short yardage situations only to be replaced by a fullback or 2nd string halfback is better than him!!

this thread makes me want to puke..

:worthy:

[mmillman]

Barry was a better runner than Emmitt.
Emmitt was a better running back.

Emmitt moved the chains, he wore down defenses, he pass blocked, he caught passes. He was a more complete football player.

Barry had a lot of series that went like this:
Sanders for -1 yards, 6, 4, punt.
Sanders - 2, 5, 2, punt
Sanders 15, first down
Sanders 8, 0 ,1, punt
Sanders 0, 35, first down
Sanders -1, four yard pass, Sanders out on third and long, punt
Sanders 29, first down
Sanders 3, 5, 0, punt

Smith had a lot that went like this:
4, 4, ,4 first down
0, complete pass for 6, emmitt nice block giving Aikman an extra split sec. 1st
6, 2, 3 1st down
7, 1, 4 1st down
swing pass for 6 yards, 5, first down

Not scientific but you get my meaning. He wore down defenses, demoralized them and did all the little things that moved the chains and put points on the board and the defense off the field.
Sanders was electric. He was a swing for the fences kind of guy who didn't move the chains and put his defense on the field until he broke a long one. Defenses certainly feared being made to look silly but they weren't concerned about long sustained, butt kicking drives.

I would take a back like Brown, Payton, Emmit, Campbell, L.T., any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Name some scat backs like Sanders who own a ring? Can't because backs like Riggins, Czonka, Allen, Dillon, while not in Sanders' league toting the rock move the chains consistently setting up the rest of the offense and giving the defense a rest.

[Thomas82]

Barry was a better runner than Emmitt.
Emmitt was a better running back.

Emmitt moved the chains, he wore down defenses, he pass blocked, he caught passes. He was a more complete football player.

Barry had a lot of series that went like this:
Sanders for -1 yards, 6, 4, punt.
Sanders - 2, 5, 2, punt
Sanders 15, first down
Sanders 8, 0 ,1, punt
Sanders 0, 35, first down
Sanders -1, four yard pass, Sanders out on third and long, punt
Sanders 29, first down
Sanders 3, 5, 0, punt

Smith had a lot that went like this:
4, 4, ,4 first down
0, complete pass for 6, emmitt nice block giving Aikman an extra split sec. 1st
6, 2, 3 1st down
7, 1, 4 1st down
swing pass for 6 yards, 5, first down

Not scientific but you get my meaning. He wore down defenses, demoralized them and did all the little things that moved the chains and put points on the board and the defense off the field.
Sanders was electric. He was a swing for the fences kind of guy who didn't move the chains and put his defense on the field until he broke a long one. Defenses certainly feared being made to look silly but they weren't concerned about long sustained, butt kicking drives.

I would take a back like Brown, Payton, Emmit, Campbell, L.T., any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Name some scat backs like Sanders who own a ring? Can't because backs like Riggins, Czonka, Allen, Dillon, while not in Sanders' league toting the rock move the chains consistently setting up the rest of the offense and giving the defense a rest.

Tony Dorsett is about the only scatback I can think of.

[the kid 05]

you guys gotta stop. im a huge cowboy/emmitt fan. but if barry played as long as emmitt did and with the line dallas had. he would shatter the record

i remember reading that the lions line wasn't as bad as most saw it to be, it was that Barry wouldn't follow the runs like they were drawned up too go, like if it went wide right but he saw a whole near the center he would hit that instead.

and someone had posted on this site that pre-emmitt our linemen were just "egh" or "decent" it wasn't tell Emmitt came that they all turned into the pro-bowlers, but everyone still says it was the lines, we both had GOOD lines, just one followed where to go and the other didn't

[Thomas82]

i remember reading that the lions line wasn't as bad as most saw it to be, it was that Barry wouldn't follow the runs like they were drawned up too go, like if it went wide right but he saw a whole near the center he would hit that instead.

and someone had posted on this site that pre-emmitt our linemen were just "egh" or "decent" it wasn't tell Emmitt came that they all turned into the pro-bowlers, but everyone still says it was the lines, we both had GOOD lines, just one followed where to go and the other didn't

Good post, right on the money. That was me that posted about the lines.

[Bob Sacamano]

Barry also had Scott Mitchell in his prime, who was a perennial 3,000+ yard QB, and 2, 1,000 yard WRs in Johnnie Morton and Herman Moore

so he had some help too

[Deep_Freeze]

If I were an owner with a new team, I would want Barry cause his style sells tickets.

If I were a coach, and needed that additional piece to put my team over the top, I would pick Emmitt.

Just depends on what you need and what you would have around him. If I have a sorry team, I have to pick Barry.

[the kid 05]

If I were an owner with a new team, I would want Barry cause his style sells tickets.

If I were a coach, and needed that additional piece to put my team over the top, I would pick Emmitt.

Just depends on what you need and what you would have around him. If I have a sorry team, I have to pick Barry.


If your the owner and wanted to sell tickets you won't be able to sell tickets when your player quits on you in his prime. if you really wanted to win tickets too you would go with Emmitt to win games :)

[Bob Sacamano]

yeah, Super Bowls win fans

[the kid 05]

yeah, Super Bowls win fans

yup, thanks to the boys winning the 3 they did in the 90's i liked and never stopped liking them :)

[Zaxor]

an excerpt from football outsiders

To me, the best example of this argument was always "Emmitt vs. Barry." Whenever people argued that Barry Sanders was better than Emmitt Smith, my head would practically explode. So you’d rather have the guy who gets tackled behind the line of scrimmage eight out of 10 times, then breaks off a 40-yard run, over the guy who rushes for five yards a pop, keeps moving those chains and gets stronger as the game goes along? You really think the Cowboys were winning those Super Bowls because of Troy Aikman and Michael Irvin? Emmitt was the heart and soul of those teams. I loved watching Barry Sanders, and he’s in the Pantheon for "Guys You Should Never Bet Against," but for one game with my life on the line … sorry, I’m taking Emmitt. No contest.

[Thomas82]

an excerpt from football outsiders

To me, the best example of this argument was always "Emmitt vs. Barry." Whenever people argued that Barry Sanders was better than Emmitt Smith, my head would practically explode. So you’d rather have the guy who gets tackled behind the line of scrimmage eight out of 10 times, then breaks off a 40-yard run, over the guy who rushes for five yards a pop, keeps moving those chains and gets stronger as the game goes along? You really think the Cowboys were winning those Super Bowls because of Troy Aikman and Michael Irvin? Emmitt was the heart and soul of those teams. I loved watching Barry Sanders, and he’s in the Pantheon for "Guys You Should Never Bet Against," but for one game with my life on the line … sorry, I’m taking Emmitt. No contest.





That was on point.

[AMERICAS_FAN]

....[Barry Sanders] said LT was the current back that reminded him the most of himself.

Earth to Barry: LT is not "Emmitt" eithe!

AF

[Thomas82]

Earth to Barry: LT is not "Emmitt" eithe!

AF

HELL NO!!

[ilovejerry]

who cares,
Stupid thread, any Cowboy fan should thank the Stars we were lucky to have Emmitt and just to argue that he is the best back in history says allot about him.
If Fran Tarkington was on the cowboys instead of Staubach if Jim Kelly was on the cowboys if,, Stupid stupid arguments, don't hate the player hate the game.
Emmitt=Class

[Thomas82]

who cares,
Stupid thread, any Cowboy fan should thank the Stars we were lucky to have Emmitt and just to argue that he is the best back in history says allot about him.
If Fran Tarkington was on the cowboys instead of Staubach if Jim Kelly was on the cowboys if,, Stupid stupid arguments, don't hate the player hate the game.
Emmitt=Class


We definately were lucky to have Emmitt.

[Maikeru-sama]

The guy bailed on his team. It's not rocket surgery. He's right about his moves, though. He could say that about any runner ever, I'd wager.

Barry Sanders retired because he felt that the Lions were not committed to winning, plain and simple.

I think it is extremely foolish to call a guy with his talent and his resume' a coward.

- Mike G.

[Rampage]

Emmitt James Smith III (born May 15, 1969) was one of the most prolific running backs to ever play professional football. He was only the seventh player in NFL history to carry the title of all-time rushing leader, and is the current holder of the title. He passed his childhood hero Walter Payton in a game against Seattle on October 27, 2002. He was born in Pensacola, Florida.

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Smith attended Escambia High School in Pensacola, Florida and finished his career with 8804 rushing yards and 106 touchdowns.

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He starred at the University of Florida, where he set 58 school records, including the single game rushing record in his very first start, en route to winning the SEC Freshman of the Year award and would finish 9th in the Heisman Trophy vote in 1987. He left Florida after his junior year with 3,928 rushing yards and 36 touchdowns. In 1989, Smith was named a first-team All-American, SEC Player of the Year and finished 7th in the Heisman voting after amassing 1,599 yards and 16 TDs.

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Using draft picks they had acquired in the trade for Herschel Walker the year before, the Dallas Cowboys moved up four spots in the draft to take Smith with the 17th overall pick in 1990 and the second running back taken in that draft. He subsequently became an integral part of their three Super Bowl championship teams in four years following the 1992-93 and 1995 seasons. Smith led the NFL in rushing four times (1991-1993, 1995), rushing touchdowns 3 times (1992, 1994, 1995), was the league's MVP in 1993, the MVP of Super Bowl XXVIII, and made eight Pro Bowls throughout his career. (Among running backs selected to the Pro Bowl, he's behind only Barry Sanders, who has 10, and the late Walter Payton, who has 9.) In his 3 Super Bowls, Smith rushed 71 times for 289 yards, caught 11 passes for 56 yards, and scored 5 touchdowns. His 5 rushing touchdowns are a career Super Bowl record.

Smith is one of only three players in Cowboys history with three career 100-point seasons, and he is the only non-kicker to accomplish the feat. The century mark became a big number in Smith's career, having rushed for 100 yards in 155-of-326 games dating back to high school (45-of-49 at Escambia High School, 25-of-34 at Florida, 81-of-202 at Dallas, including playoffs, and two-of-25 at Arizona). His 45 100-yard games in high school is still the national record, and in NFL annals, Smith's 78 100-yard rushing games makes him the NFL's all-time leader - just ahead of Walter Payton (77) and Barry Sanders (76). Included in Smith's league record 78 regular season 100-yard rushing games are 18 days with over 150 yards, which is the fourth highest total of 150-yard games in NFL history.

On February 27, 2003, Smith volunteered to be released by the Cowboys, rather than put owner Jerry Jones in the awkward position of cutting him to fit under the league's salary cap. He signed a two-year deal with the Arizona Cardinals on March 26. After finishing 2003 as a backup, he began the 2004 season as the Cardinals starting running back and accounted for 937 rushing yards and nine touchdowns on 267 carries. His 267 carries marked his highest total since 2000 and his nine touchdowns were his highest total since scoring 11 times in 1999. He also caught 15 passes for 105 yards for Arizona. On October 3, he posted his best game as a Cardinal against New Orleans, totaling 127 rushing yards on 21 carries (6.0 avg.), including a 29-yard scoring jaunt (his longest as a Cardinal). Smith also became the oldest player in NFL history ever to complete his first career touchdown pass, tossing a 21-yard scoring strike to fullback Obafemi Ayanbadejo in a game against New Orleans. The Saints game also marked his 77th career regular season 100-yard rushing game, tying Payton for the most in NFL history. On October 24, Smith broke Payton's record for career 100-yard rushing games when he totaled 106 yards and a touchdown on 26 carries against Seattle. Then in November, he totaled 67 yards and two touchdowns on 19 carries against the N.Y. Giants to become the only player in NFL history to eclipse the 18,000 career rushing yard mark.

In 2005, Smith signed a new contract with Dallas for one-day and no money so he could retire as a Cowboy. On February 3, 2005, at a press conference in Jacksonville, Florida three days before Super Bowl XXXIX, he announced his retirement after fifteen seasons in the NFL.

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Smith was one of the best running backs in NFL history.
Smith is the first player in NFL history to have five straight seasons with over 1,400 rushing yards. Smith and Jim Brown are the only players with seven straight 10-touchdown seasons to start their career. With 1,021 yards rushing in 2001, Smith became the first player in NFL history to rush for 1,000 yards in 11 consecutive seasons and the first to post 11 1,000-yard rushing seasons in a career. He is also the NFL's all-time leader in rushing attempts with 4,409.

Smith currently holds the NFL record in career rushing yards with 18,355 and is the only player in NFL history to rush for over 18,000 yards, breaking the previous record held by Walter Payton, on October 27, 2002. He leads all running backs with 166 career touchdowns, and his 175 total touchdowns ranks him second only Jerry Rice's 207 touchdowns. The sum of his rushing yards, receiving yards (3,224) and fumble return yards(-15), gave him a total of 21,564 yards from the line of scrimmage, making him one of only four players in NFL history to eclipse the 21,000-combined yards mark.

Smith also accumulated a number of NFL postseason records, including rushing touchdowns (19), consecutive games with a rushing touchdown (nine) and 100-yard rushing games (seven). His 1,586 yards rushing is also tops on the NFL postseason chart, and he shares the total playoff touchdown mark of 21 with Thurman Thomas. Smith is one of only five NFL players who have amassed over 10,000 career-rushing yards and 400 career receptions.

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Beyond his statistical excellence, Smith is noted for being very durable with excellent vision, great balance, a competitive heart, and one of the most complete players to ever play the position of running back. Smith excelled at running between the tackles as a highly efficient downhill runner skilled at cutting through quickly changing gaps toward "daylight", but was also skilled in running to the outside, and catching the ball as a receiver. In the mold of Walter Payton, Smith was a great blocker in pass protection - the great blocking fullback Daryl "Moose" Johnston noted that Smith was better in pass protection than he was. During his career, he was often compared to Detroit Lions Hall of Fame runningback Barry Sanders as both men were extremely successful for their respective teams during the decade of the 1990's. While he was not known to be the human highlight reel Sanders was, critics argued that Smith was more of a complete back that will get you the hard yards. A modest and humble Emmitt Smith still states that to this day, Barry was the better back.
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Interesting that even with all of his accolades, Emmitt himself will tell you that Barry Sanders was a better back. I think that can be argued, and it has in this thread. The thing in my mind that sets him apart was his class. He was the consumate team player. Rate him wherever you will, there has never been a better football player than #22.

Jon

end of thread homers!

[Doomsday101]

Barry Sanders retired because he felt that the Lions were not committed to winning, plain and simple.

I think it is extremely foolish to call a guy with his talent and his resume' a coward.

- Mike G.


I agree. At the end of the season any player who comes to the conclusion that it is enough and they no longer want to continue that is that player’s personal choice. It was not like Sanders was trying to extort money from the Lions he just had enough. I hated to see him leave the NFL but I can respect him doing what he felt was in his best interest.

[superpunk]

Barry Sanders retired because he felt that the Lions were not committed to winning, plain and simple.

I think it is extremely foolish to call a guy with his talent and his resume' a coward.

- Mike G.

I was brought up to ont be a quitter, and not bail on your team. Mentally, or otherwise. Guess that makes me a fool. Oh well. I'm just amazed it took him til the end of July (a time that absolutely crippled his team) to realize the Lions plain and simple weren't committed to winning. Good for Barry. He took a stand. :rolleyes:

[Vintage]

I was brought up to ont be a quitter, and not bail on your team. Mentally, or otherwise. Guess that makes me a fool. Oh well. I'm just amazed it took him til the end of July (a time that absolutely crippled his team) to realize the Lions plain and simple weren't committed to winning. Good for Barry. He took a stand. :rolleyes:

Football takes an extreme physical toll on your body too.

I donn't think what Tiki is doing is wrong....being able to walk in life to me is more important than extending a career a couple of years. I wouldn't hold it against any of our players if they did the same thing instead of trying to extend their careers another year or two in pursuit of a Super Bowl. Some things in life are more important than winning a football game.

Family and personal health are two.

[superpunk]

Football takes an extreme physical toll on your body too.

I donn't think what Tiki is doing is wrong....being able to walk in life to me is more important than extending a career a couple of years. I wouldn't hold it against any of our players if they did the same thing instead of trying to extend their careers another year or two in pursuit of a Super Bowl. Some things in life are more important than winning a football game.

Family and personal health are two.

And it's possible to make that decision in February, March, April, and May, while your team can still do something about it. The "didn't think the Lions were committed to winning" is a copout, IMO. He quit, and he quit at a time when it hurt his team, and the players left behind trying to earn a living, most.

[Thomas82]

I agree. At the end of the season any player who comes to the conclusion that it is enough and they no longer want to continue that is that player’s personal choice. It was not like Sanders was trying to extort money from the Lions he just had enough. I hated to see him leave the NFL but I can respect him doing what he felt was in his best interest.


I remember reading a magazine article on him, around 1994 or so, that he was asked how much longer he would play and he said most likely it would be after the 1998 season.

[jackrussell]

And it's possible to make that decision in February, March, April, and May, while your team can still do something about it. The "didn't think the Lions were committed to winning" is a copout, IMO. He quit, and he quit at a time when it hurt his team, and the players left behind trying to earn a living, most.

Yeah, the Lions have a great history of covering their collective behinds.:rolleyes: Maybe if they would have known by the draft, they could have taken, ummm, a WR! He quit in July, but May would have been fine by you. There's soooo much the brilliant minds of Detroit would, or could have done in that extra month.

Teams cut players on a dime all the time without any consideration to those player's lives or well being.

[superpunk]

Yeah, the Lions have a great history of covering their collective behinds.:rolleyes: Maybe if they would have known by the draft, they could have taken, ummm, a WR! He quit in July, but May would have been fine by you. There's soooo much the brilliant minds of Detroit would, or could have done in that extra month.

Teams cut players on a dime all the time without any consideration to those player's lives or well being.

Give me a break. By July there is nothing left, anywhere. I'm terribly sorry that I listed May, instead of cutting my list of months succeeding the end of the season and preceding the NFL draft off at April. Neither you or I know what Detroit could have done given more time or notice. But they had the star of their team unexpectedly retire at a time when there was absolutely nothing that could be done about it. That's being a quitter, plain and simple.

By all means, though - focus on May. :rolleyes:

[Maikeru-sama]

I agree. At the end of the season any player who comes to the conclusion that it is enough and they no longer want to continue that is that player’s personal choice. It was not like Sanders was trying to extort money from the Lions he just had enough. I hated to see him leave the NFL but I can respect him doing what he felt was in his best interest.

Yep.

He even tried to get them to trade him or alter his contract so he could go elsewhere.

He is not a coward or a quitter, he was just a point in his life where he had "been there and done that" as far as stats and individual accomplishments and wanted a change of scenery.

Heck, in some ways both Eli Manning and John Elway did the same exact thing, they just did it "before" their career started and Sanders did it at the very end.

He wanted to be apart of an organization that was committed to winning and the lions then and lions now are not committed to winning.

But by all means people keep with "Barry Sanders is a coward" mantra...problem is only a few homers on this board will agree with it :rolleyes: .

- Mike G.

[superpunk]

Yep.

He even tried to get them to trade him or alter his contract so he could go elsewhere.

He is not a coward or a quitter, he was just a point in his life where he had "been there and done that" as far as stats and individual accomplishments and wanted a change of scenery.

Heck, in some ways both Eli Manning and John Elway did the same exact thing, they just did it "before" their career started and Sanders did it at the very end.

He wanted to be apart of an organization that was committed to winning and the lions then and lions now are not committed to winning.

But by all means people keep with "Barry Sanders is a coward" mantra...problem is only a few homers on this board will agree with it :rolleyes: .

- Mike G.

Trying to leverage yourself into a better situation is now "in some ways the exact same thing" :confused: as just up and quitting on your team because you didn't get your way.

I guess some people will apologize for anything, eh?

[Maikeru-sama]

Trying to leverage yourself into a better situation is now "in some ways the exact same thing" :confused: as just up and quitting on your team because you didn't get your way.

I guess some people will apologize for anything, eh?

I guess you are uninformed about the part about him trying to seek a trade?

He did the same exact thing as Eli and Elway did plain and simple (which I think is worst than what Barry did).

Hell actually having the "guts" to go to Lions shows the man isn't a coward.

But like I said, carry on with your Mantra....

- Mike G.

[superpunk]

I guess you are uninformed about the part about him trying to seek a trade?

He did the same exact thing as Eli and Elway did plain and simple (which I think is worst than what Barry did).

Hell actually having the "guts" to go to Lions shows the man isn't a coward.

But like I said, carry on with your Mantra....

- Mike G.

I'm thrilled that you view quitting as some heroic act when done at the worst possible moment that screws the organization, your teammates, your fans, and the city as some sort of heroic act of martyrdom. I can't rationalize quitting into anything heroic. My standards must be weird.

[Deep_Freeze]

If your the owner and wanted to sell tickets you won't be able to sell tickets when your player quits on you in his prime. if you really wanted to win tickets too you would go with Emmitt to win games :)

If the Lions as a team were performing like the Cowboys were as a team, I figure Barry would have stayed. There is noway you can predict what he would have done in a different situation.

I understand that consistency has merit, both have their place in history.

[Thomas82]

If the Lions as a team were performing like the Cowboys were as a team, I figure Barry would have stayed. There is noway you can predict what he would have done in a different situation.

I understand that consistency has merit, both have their place in history.


No question he would have stayed.

[gbrittain]

Blah, blah, and more blah.

Emmitt was a better running back than Barry. Yes Barry would have the rushing title if he had kept playing. I get that.

A few QBs who threw for more yards than Troy:

Warren Moon, Vinny T, Drew Bledsoe, Dave Krieg, Boomer Esiason, Jim Kelly, Jim Everett, Steve Deberg, Kerry Collins, and Phill Simms.

Guess what? Not a single one of those QBs were better than Troy. Barry had the most amazing runs I have ever seen. Pure greatness. However, that is not the end all of being a great running back.

Sometimes I wonder what else did people want Emmitt to do? Great blocker...check. Catch out of the back field...check. Break long runs...check. Fight for the tough yardage...check. Makes moves...check. Run over people...check. All time rushing champion...check. All time TD champ among RBs...check. Super Bowl MVP...check. Pro Bowls...check. All Pro...check. Durability...check. Longevity...check.

The list could on and on. Emmitt takes a back seat to no one.

[BigD_95]

....this morning confessed that he didn't think Emmitt had the moves he had and was as nimble as he was. He said he always saw Emmitt as more of a power back. He joked that he wanted a piece of Emmitt in dancing and admitted he was a horrible dancer. He said LT was current back that reminded him the most of himself.



How is that???? LT knows what the endzone is.:lmao:

[DawnOfANewD]

Imagine a RB tandem of E. Smith-B. Sanders - thunder and lightning. We kind of have a lesser version of one in Barber and Jones: power and durability + speed and moves.

[Doomsday101]

Imagine a RB tandem of E. Smith-B. Sanders RB - thunder and lightning. We kind of have a lesser version of one in Barber and Jones: power and durability + speed and moves.

Thing is Emmitt got better the more carries he got. Emmitt clearly was a guy who was going to get the ball 25 to 30 times a game.

[jackrussell]

Give me a break. By July there is nothing left, anywhere. I'm terribly sorry that I listed May, instead of cutting my list of months succeeding the end of the season and preceding the NFL draft off at April. Neither you or I know what Detroit could have done given more time or notice. But they had the star of their team unexpectedly retire at a time when there was absolutely nothing that could be done about it. That's being a quitter, plain and simple.

By all means, though - focus on May. :rolleyes:

You said May.

Not I.

Say what you mean, or live with what you say.

But heck, let it be known, punk says if you retire a day after the NFL draft, you will forever be deemed as a quitter.

[WV Cowboy]

I hope I don't offend anyone with this comment, but I would venture to say that most of the people that like Sanders better are just football fans that like to watch on TV.

Yes, he was entertaining to watch.

Because if you really know the workings of football, if you know the job of the RB, if you understand the importance of moving the chains, picking up a blitzer, getting tough yardage even when it is not there, then you see and understand that there really is no comparance between the two.

The Dallas Oline argument is actually a mark against Sanders.

Those big fat guys would have been worn out trying to find Sanders and block for him the way he always bounced it around. By the middle of the 3rd qtr they would have been exhausted.

Instead, they always power blocked on runs for Emmitt, knowing he would always be running downhill, straight for the EZ. And so in the 4th qtr they were just the same as in the 1st.

Sanders was an exciting ticket to watch, ... Emmitt was the epitomy of what a RB is supposed to be.

If I'm an NFL coach, Emmitt over Sanders is a no-brainer to me.

[Maikeru-sama]

You said May.

Not I.

Say what you mean, or live with what you say.

But heck, let it be known, punk says if you retire a day after the NFL draft, you will forever be deemed as a quitter.

And a "coward"

I respect your opinion SP, but I just dont see how the guy is a coward...quitter maybe, but a coward...i dont know.

- Mike G.

[superpunk]

You said May.

Not I.

Say what you mean, or live with what you say.

But heck, let it be known, punk says if you retire a day after the NFL draft, you will forever be deemed as a quitter.

I went a month too far. I made a mistake. You'd obviously know nothing about that. I didn't know we were establishing a timeline for acceptable quitting. My apologies.

And no, that is not what I said. But Sanders quit. Sanders hung his team out to dry when he quit at a time when there was nothing they could do to even think of replacing him. Sanders is a quitter. The rest is just semantics, that you can argue about at will. I won't stop you.

[superpunk]

And a "coward"

I respect your opinion SP, but I just dont see how the guy is a coward...quitter maybe, but a coward...i dont know.

- Mike G.

He was tired of losing. He took the easy way out, IMO. I don't believe Sanders made his team all that much better, considering all the third and long's he'd put them in before breaking a 40 yard highlight run. He blamed the team, and quit on them, at the worst possible time. Coward is probably a strong word, but the literal definition....

cow‧ard  /ˈkaʊhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.pngərd/
–noun 1.a person who lacks courage in facing danger, difficulty, opposition, pain, etc.; a timid or easily intimidated person.

....Kind of fits what he did. He ran from difficulty and opposition instead of continuing to battle. Similar to the way he ran on sundays. He abandoned his teammates at the worst possible time in a decision that affected them as much as him just because he couldn't take it anymore. I don't buy any justification for that. If he'd done it earlier - no problem, it's his prerogative. Doing what he did screwed the organization, his teammates, and the fans. So, boo Barry Sanders. You can argue all day about Emmitt v. Barry - but in the end, Emmitt would never have done that.

[joseephuss]

I went a month too far. I made a mistake. You'd obviously know nothing about that. I didn't know we were establishing a timeline for acceptable quitting. My apologies.

And no, that is not what I said. But Sanders quit. Sanders hung his team out to dry when he quit at a time when there was nothing they could do to even think of replacing him. Sanders is a quitter. The rest is just semantics, that you can argue about at will. I won't stop you.

Had Barry Sanders retired prior to the draft, Detroit maybe could have done some different things. Marshall Faulk was traded by Indy for a 2nd round pick that year. Maybe Detroit could have traded for him. The Lions had two picks in the first round. Maybe they could have traded up for either Edgerin James or Ricky Williams. Not that Ricky would have been worth it, but who knew at that time.

I don't consider Sanders a quitter. I think that is just a real negative way of looking at it. Maybe a glass half empty kind of thing. Perhaps it is more a glass half full when you look at Emmitt and Walter. Those guys just had such great drive to keep going.

[Thomas82]

He was tired of losing. He took the easy way out, IMO. I don't believe Sanders made his team all that much better, considering all the third and long's he'd put them in before breaking a 40 yard highlight run. He blamed the team, and quit on them, at the worst possible time. Coward is probably a strong word, but the literal definition....

cow‧ard  /ˈkaʊhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.pngərd/
–noun 1.a person who lacks courage in facing danger, difficulty, opposition, pain, etc.; a timid or easily intimidated person.

....Kind of fits what he did. He ran from difficulty and opposition instead of continuing to battle. Similar to the way he ran on sundays. He abandoned his teammates at the worst possible time in a decision that affected them as much as him just because he couldn't take it anymore. I don't buy any justification for that. If he'd done it earlier - no problem, it's his prerogative. Doing what he did screwed the organization, his teammates, and the fans. So, boo Barry Sanders. You can argue all day about Emmitt v. Barry - but in the end, Emmitt would never have done that.


You would have had to cut the uniform off of Emmitt.

[Rampage]

Imagine a RB tandem of E. Smith-B. Sanders - thunder and lightning. We kind of have a lesser version of one in Barber and Jones: power and durability + speed and moves.
:lmao2: don't compare jones or barber to those 2 greats. altleast not "run into the line" jones

[Thomas82]

:lmao2: don't compare jones or barber to those 2 greats. altleast not "run into the line" jones

That would be crazy.

[Maikeru-sama]

He was tired of losing. He took the easy way out, IMO. I don't believe Sanders made his team all that much better, considering all the third and long's he'd put them in before breaking a 40 yard highlight run. He blamed the team, and quit on them, at the worst possible time. Coward is probably a strong word, but the literal definition....

cow‧ard  /ˈkaʊhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.pngərd/
–noun 1.a person who lacks courage in facing danger, difficulty, opposition, pain, etc.; a timid or easily intimidated person.

....Kind of fits what he did. He ran from difficulty and opposition instead of continuing to battle. Similar to the way he ran on sundays. He abandoned his teammates at the worst possible time in a decision that affected them as much as him just because he couldn't take it anymore. I don't buy any justification for that. If he'd done it earlier - no problem, it's his prerogative. Doing what he did screwed the organization, his teammates, and the fans. So, boo Barry Sanders. You can argue all day about Emmitt v. Barry - but in the end, Emmitt would never have done that.


Wow...

And to be honest, what Emmitt did in 1993 was even worst then what Barry Sanders did and Emmitt is in no way a coward and neither is Barry.

Agree to disagree LOL

- Mike G.

[ConcordCowboy]

Blah, blah, and more blah.

Emmitt was a better running back than Barry. Yes Barry would have the rushing title if he had kept playing. I get that.

A few QBs who threw for more yards than Troy:

Warren Moon, Vinny T, Drew Bledsoe, Dave Krieg, Boomer Esiason, Jim Kelly, Jim Everett, Steve Deberg, Kerry Collins, and Phill Simms.

Guess what? Not a single one of those QBs were better than Troy. Barry had the most amazing runs I have ever seen. Pure greatness. However, that is not the end all of being a great running back.

Sometimes I wonder what else did people want Emmitt to do? Great blocker...check. Catch out of the back field...check. Break long runs...check. Fight for the tough yardage...check. Makes moves...check. Run over people...check. All time rushing champion...check. All time TD champ among RBs...check. Super Bowl MVP...check. Pro Bowls...check. All Pro...check. Durability...check. Longevity...check.
The list could on and on. Emmitt takes a back seat to no one.

Agree totally. To act like Sanders was a better back because he could make the amazing move is ridiculous.

Sanders was a great back....But Emmitt was a great complete back and I think second to none.

And Sanders may be a quitter...but he was no coward...That's ridiculous.

[BigDFan5]

Wow...

And to be honest, what Emmitt did in 1993 was even worst then what Barry Sanders did and Emmitt is in no way a coward and neither is Barry.

Agree to disagree LOL

- Mike G.



Mick you can not be serious! Did you really just imply that Emmitt Smith missing 2 games due to the fact that HE WAS NOT UNDER CONTRACT as beiong worse than Barry Sanders quitting on his team right before training camp started? He spit in the face of his fans and teamates by quitting. Emmitt did nothing wrong at all, since he was not under contract and was not required to sign a contract that was unacceptable

[ConcordCowboy]

Honestly, this argument on a DALLAS COWBOYS message board just makes me sick..

We have a Dallas Cowboy that:

-has more rushing yards than anyone in NFL history, the most sacred record in football..

-has more rushing touchdowns than anyone in NFL history..

-was the most important piece in winning 3 Super Bowls..

-has more playoff rushing yards than anyone in NFL history..

-has more playoff rushing touchdowns than anyone in NFL history..

-won 4 rushing titles

-was an NFL MVP

-was a Super Bowl MVP


basically, the most successful and decorated runningback in NFL history.. if you combine NFL, college, and high school, he is by far and away the most successful football player of all-time.. any way you measure it: championships, stats, heart, whatever..

and here we have DALLAS COWBOYS FANS arguing against him!! saying that a guy that leads the NFL in all-time yardage LOST is better than him!! saying that a guy that had to be taken out of goal-line situations and short yardage situations only to be replaced by a fullback or 2nd string halfback is better than him!!

this thread makes me want to puke..

:puke: Amazing isn't it?

[Thomas82]

:puke: Amazing isn't it?

Yes it is.