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REDVOLUTION
11-20-2006, 01:00 PM
I feel we have turned the corner... this game was a statement game. I belive we are a steamroller now... no more letting teams stay in games.

Just flat out domination. Romo is our wildcard. He will get it done.
His mental approach and decision making is unbelievable.

First place here we come
FLCowboyFan
11-20-2006, 01:02 PM
won't we technically be tied with them until we play them in 2 weeks?
Da Hammer
11-20-2006, 01:03 PM
for a couple of days anyway unless the Giants lose again next sunday then... WE WILL BE IN FIRST PLACE FOR GOOD BABY CAUSE WE WILL BEAT THE GIANTS 2 WEEKS FROM TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM PUMPED!!!!!!!!!!! :D :p: :D
burmafrd
11-20-2006, 01:06 PM
with our 1-3 DIVISIONAL record we still will be behind them even if we beat them in the rematch. Theyhave to lose all their divisional games left or we have to have a better record. They have the tie breakers.
REDVOLUTION
11-20-2006, 01:11 PM
7-4 beats 6-4 doesnt it?

currently:

Giants 6-3
Cowboys 6-4
dallascowboysfan31
11-20-2006, 01:16 PM
sorry but i was under the impression that the overall record supercedes the division. so if we just end up with a better record than the giants despite divisional games, we win the east.....correct?
austintodallas
11-20-2006, 01:33 PM
sorry but i was under the impression that the overall record supercedes the division. so if we just end up with a better record than the giants despite divisional games, we win the east.....correct?correct
DallasDomination
11-20-2006, 01:36 PM
We still have to beat the Bucs...One game at a time.
percyhoward
11-20-2006, 01:36 PM
We need to win out and the Giants need to lose one other game (besides us beating them) for us to win the divison. After tonight, the Giants have road games in Tennessee and Carolina. Also a home date vs. New Orleans.

If the playoffs started today, we would be the 6th seed in the NFC and we would go to Seattle for the first round game.
burmafrd
11-20-2006, 01:38 PM
Odds are that if we end up with the same overall record they will still have the divisional record edge.
REDVOLUTION
11-20-2006, 03:05 PM
Romo said something very interesting yesterday that leads me to believe that Bill and the Cowboys are looking to try and win EVERY game from here on out....

Romo said something like "QB's dont win games they try not to lose them and leave a chance for winning them at the end"
superpunk
11-20-2006, 03:08 PM
We need to win out and the Giants need to lose one other game (besides us beating them) for us to win the divison. After tonight, the Giants have road games in Tennessee and Carolina. Also a home date vs. New Orleans.

If the playoffs started today, we would be the 6th seed in the NFC and we would go to Seattle for the first round game.

Sure we wouldn't be fifth and in New Orleans?

Doesn't the head to head supercede conference record? We beat Carolina.
LaTunaNostra
11-20-2006, 03:17 PM
How healthy are the Jags for tonite?

And I hope Matt Jones is over that awful case of dropsies he had last week.
Maikeru-sama
11-20-2006, 03:19 PM
won't we technically be tied with them until we play them in 2 weeks?

No, it goes by Record first. They would be 6-4 and we would be 7-4

- Mike G.
Maikeru-sama
11-20-2006, 03:21 PM
Sure we wouldn't be fifth and in New Orleans?

Doesn't the head to head supercede conference record? We beat Carolina.

Yes, Head to Head is the first Tie Breaker. Conference is 4th.

1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.

http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakers
AtlCB
11-20-2006, 03:24 PM
Sure we wouldn't be fifth and in New Orleans?

Doesn't the head to head supercede conference record? We beat Carolina.

Carolina would win the NFC South based on head-to-head record against New Orleans. New Orleans would finish ahead of the Cowboys based on NFC record.
superpunk
11-20-2006, 03:28 PM
Yes, Head to Head is the first Tie Breaker. Conference is 4th.

1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.

http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakers

OK then. It looks like it would be Seattle today, then, altho we'd still be 5th seed, because their CONF. W-L record is worse than NO.
Maikeru-sama
11-20-2006, 03:29 PM
Carolina would win the NFC South based on head-to-head record against New Orleans. New Orleans would finish ahead of the Cowboys based on NFC record.

You sure about that?

I an not so certain about the "tie breaker" procedures outside the division, but I would think Head to Head would come first if Carolina and Cowboys were tied?
superpunk
11-20-2006, 03:29 PM
Carolina would win the NFC South based on head-to-head record against New Orleans. New Orleans would finish ahead of the Cowboys based on NFC record.

Until we beat them ;)

Gotcha.
percyhoward
11-20-2006, 03:30 PM
Right now, we're sixth (http://www.nfl.com/standings/conference).
percyhoward
11-20-2006, 03:33 PM
You sure about that?

I an not so certain about the "tie breaker" procedures outside the division, but I would think Head to Head would come first if Carolina and Cowboys were tied?

That would only apply if Carolina weren't leading their division. Division winners are seeded higher than wild card teams, regardless of record.
superpunk
11-20-2006, 03:34 PM
That would only apply if Carolina weren't leading their division. Division winners are seeded higher than wild card teams, regardless of record.
It's that darn alphabetical listing we get in the papers, lol.
Doomsday101
11-20-2006, 03:35 PM
Cowboys just need to take care of business and we will be in the playoffs.
AtlCB
11-20-2006, 03:41 PM
Cowboys just need to take care of business and we will be in the playoffs.
Exactly. The Cowboys control their own destiny for the 5th seed (Carolina and NO play each other again). If the Giants lose tonight, the Cowboys control their own destiny for the division and the #3 seed.
Garland powerplay
11-21-2006, 02:35 AM
ITS a done deal.