RECAP: Mickey with The Hardline on The Ticket... (kicker talk)

[trickblue]

Mickey:
Evidently the Cowboys think they are in the hunt and are not going to allow a mental kicker to hurt them. They have signed Martin Grammatica and Carlos Martinez (Desperados kicker) to the practice squad just in case. They have worked out Martinez before and evidently plan on monitoring him on the PC.
Grammatica has subbed for both Vinatieri and Vanderjagt when they were injured. He was 11-19 during his stint for Vanderjagt. New England signed him and he was beat out by a rookie this year. He averages a touchback for every 9 kicks.
This is going to cost the Cowboys 1.9 mil against the cap next year, so it tells you they have really had it with Vandy. He barely made his last 22 yarder. It would have missed from 30 probably.
Vandy talked a good game but he never seemed to back it up with Dallas. If Dallas is going to yank the QB, then it shouldn't surprise anyone they would cut the PK.
Let's hope Grammatica has learned his lesson about celebrating after making a kick. Signing Martinez probably lets aGrammatica know he is on a short leash.
Suisam was signed by SF but is now on the practice squad. Cundiff was signed by NO to do KO's.
Dallas missed out on Morten Andersen.
This is probably the last time Dallas will invest big bucks in a kicker.

[HighTechDave]

dude, just the fear of being cut, will keep the Boys focused this sunday for the Giants.

NO PASSENGERS!!!!

[RXP]

Time to draft a kicker in April. The best one out there.

[5Stars]

If I remember, there was an article or blog awhile back that stated that Vandershank said he made a mistake signing with Dallas, and that he hated to be in Dallas....

Anyone remember that?

[Heisenberg]

If I remember, there was an article or blog awhile back that stated that Vandershank said he made a mistake signing with Dallas, and that he hated to be in Dallas....

Anyone remember that?

I don't really remember the article or anything, but there is a hell of a lot more pressure in Dallas than say...Indy.

[DallasCowpoke]

This is probably the last time Dallas will invest big bucks in a kicker.

I thought the same thing when I read this earlier, and that truly stinks. Oh well, adios Chris Chris, you and your stupid lookin' soul-patch.

[Woods]

Hindsight is 20/20 . . . . but there were several good kickers available in FA this year other than Vandy . . . . we just waited a bit too long to wait for the market to soften up. Oh well, it happens . . . . . You can't hit on every FA and draft pick.

Best just to cut your losses and move on.

[Dale]

If I remember, there was an article or blog awhile back that stated that Vandershank said he made a mistake signing with Dallas, and that he hated to be in Dallas....

Anyone remember that?

Yes, you're right. I believe it was from during his preseason struggles.

[Hostile]

This is probably the last time Dallas will invest big bucks in a kicker.I'd have made bank on that.

[amuze]

Hope we can get our hands on Alexis Serna from Oregon State... look up his stats, the guy is simply amazing. 50 yd field goal is like a chip shot for this guy.

[Ashwynn]

Time to draft a kicker in April. The best one out there.

Drafting the best kicker would require big bucks (for a kicker). We are gunna get by on retreads and hope to hit on a cheap romo version of a kicker (young stud without the price tag). No first round kicker for you. Or third round probably.

[5Stars]

Yes, you're right. I believe it was from during his preseason struggles.


Thanks, I knew I had heard that...

That may be one reason that he did not work out, and also, there was a press conference where Parcells said that Vandy told him not to worry, but, Parcells said that he's getting worried now!

Vandy is from Canada, and kicked for the Colts up North...maybe the heat down in Dallas got to his head...

;)

[jumanji]

let's not forget mason crosby out of colorado

[50cent]

let's not forget mason crosby out of colorado

I heard that he can kick fgs from 75 yards in the altitude of Colorado.

[RXP]

Drafting the best kicker would require big bucks (for a kicker). We are gunna get by on retreads and hope to hit on a cheap romo version of a kicker (young stud without the price tag). No first round kicker for you. Or third round probably.

The best kicker out there will not require a first round pick. There are no Janikowski's out there.

I would be happy to spend a 3rd or 4th round pick if it solves the kicking problem. No guarantee's of course. That would not be big dollars.

I'm tired of the revolving door at kicker.

[Woods]

The best kicker out there will not require a first round pick. There are no Janikowski's out there.

I would be happy to spend a 3rd or 4th round pick if it solves the kicking problem. No guarantee's of course. That would not be big dollars.

I'm tired of the revolving door at kicker.

I'd be happy with a 4th rounder as well.

But I don't think that's BP's style.

[Cochese]

The best kicker out there will not require a first round pick. There are no Janikowski's out there.

I would be happy to spend a 3rd or 4th round pick if it solves the kicking problem. No guarantee's of course. That would not be big dollars.

I'm tired of the revolving door at kicker.

YOu are right, Mason Crosby is better than that fat lazy pollack.

[RXP]

I'd be happy with a 4th rounder as well.

But I don't think that's BP's style.

Perhaps not.

But if Bill comes back next year, I bet he will be desperate enough to take one anyway.

[LeonDixson]

Grammatica was only 11 for 19 (57.9%) while subbing for Vanderjadt. Wasn't Vandy something like 13 for 18 (72/2%)for us???? Unless Grammatica has been practicing like hell we've made a serious mistake here.

I hated Vandy's misses as much as anyone, but I'd prefer 72% over 57% any day.

[JPM]

let's not forget mason crosby out of colorado

I don't think he lasts past the 2nd round...

[AdamJT13]

Grammatica has subbed for both Vinatieri and Vanderjagt when they were injured. He was 11-19 during his stint for Vanderjagt.

Martin Gramatica never attempted a field goal for the Colts when Vanderjagt was there.

Let's hope Grammatica has learned his lesson about celebrating after making a kick.

That was Bill Gramatica.

Typical Mickey.

[HighTechDave]

what about that kicker from Auburn? Is he coming out? that dude kicks it PAST the end zone on every kickoff. blows me away how good he is. He will be a second rounder when he comes out.. That good from my memory

[SmashFactorGolf]

should have never moved away from Landy/Jimmy Johnson method with the best kicking coach around, and keep the salary hit low every year

Outsmarted ourselves there

[HighTechDave]

should have never moved away from Landy/Jimmy Johnson method with the best kicking coach around, and keep the salary hit low every year

Outsmarted ourselves there


i said that last year. nailed it. we are doomed

[Cochese]

Hoffman has bombed in Atlanta, get off his jock allready.

[yesfan]

I like to think when Bill gave him his walking
papers,that he also gave him a hard right.

[REDVOLUTION]

We did miss out on Morten Anderson

2006 stats

0-0 // 0-19
6-7 // 20-29
5-5 // 30-39
5-6 // 40-49
0-1 // 50+

missed 3 of 19

[CrazyCowboy]

Hope we can get our hands on Alexis Serna from Oregon State... look up his stats, the guy is simply amazing. 50 yd field goal is like a chip shot for this guy.

Sounds like a good gamble to me......

[Teague31]

Sounds like a good gamble to me......

didn't he miss like 3 PAT's and cost them the upset against LSU a couple of years ago? No thanks, we already tried Cortez.:bang2:

[Rudy]

I don't get your quote. Josh Brown? The guy from Bowling Green, drafted by Baltimore? What has he done?

[Cochese]

I don't get your quote. Josh Brown? The guy from Bowling Green, drafted by Baltimore? What has he done?


The dude from Seattle.

[bbgun]

This chick has potential.

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