Would you trade Roy Williams (Detroit) for TO?

[sportsman]

Roy, would love to catch passes from Romo.

[Hailmary]

Roy, would love to catch passes from Romo.

Why would Detroit want to?

[Bob Sacamano]

I would do it in a heartbeat, Roy Williams is just getting started

not that I don't like TO as a Cowboy :)

[Yeagermeister]

Hmmmm let me think















HELLZ YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jimz31]

Well...how many drops does RW have?

Seriously though? No.

[Bob Sacamano]

Well...how many drops does RW have?

Seriously though? No.

what? Roy WIlliams will be doing this for a good while, TO maybe has 4 years of high-productivity left

[ABQCOWBOY]

Must be a trick question. Roy is 2nd in the NFL right now (yards). I'd fall over dead if Detriot ever considered this for a second. Nice thought but no way in the world this could ever be a possability.

[Alexander]

Hold on, is this a Madden question?

[Hailmary]

what? Roy WIlliams will be doing this for a good while, TO maybe has 4 years of high-productivity left

This is exactly why it's so ridiculous. Even if they are comparable talent-wise, why would Detroit trade a 24yr old for a 32yr old?

[Bob Sacamano]

too bad we don't have Dexter anymore, could use him as trade bait

say him and a 3rd?

[Yeagermeister]

Hold on, is this a Madden question?

:laugh1:

[Bob Sacamano]

This is exactly why it's so ridiculous. Even if they are comparable talent-wise, why would Detroit trade a 24yr old for a 32yr old?

he's asking if we would, that's all, and would I? you damn well bet I would

[Rampage]

idk cause he's a clown too

[Hailmary]

he's asking if we would, that's all, and would I? you damn well bet I would

Oh, I get it now.

Then I would like to trade Keith Davis for Ed Reed.

[Yeagermeister]

Oh, I get it now.

Then I would like to trade Keith Davis for Ed Reed.

Now you are understanding it :laugh2:

[Payton34Smith22]

Yes......

[Cbz40]

Well let me think about this.......Heck yes!!!!!

[jimmy40]

Roy, would love to catch passes from Romo.About half this forum said RW would be the biggest bust in that draft. :bang2:

[The30YardSlant]

No, Roy Williams is an arrogant SOB who never shuts up. TO is an arrogant SOB who never shuts up and backs it up on the field.

[Hoofbite]

Based on the fact that I cannot stand his little 1st down celebration.......NO.

[Cbz40]

No, Roy Williams is an arrogant SOB who never shuts up. TO is an arrogant SOB who never shuts up and backs it up on the field.

And you are an......nevermind!!!!!!!!! :bang2: :D :D :D :D

[The30YardSlant]

And you are an......nevermind!!!!!!!!! :bang2: :D :D :D :D

How's that 40 point performance against Seattle going?

[speedkilz88]

About half this forum said RW would be the biggest bust in that draft. :bang2:More like a couple of trolz, try again.

[ABQCOWBOY]

No, Roy Williams is an arrogant SOB who never shuts up. TO is an arrogant SOB who never shuts up and backs it up on the field.

Now now HH, don't let your A&M love affair write checks commmen sense can't cash.

[zack]

Roy, would love to catch passes from Romo.

Let me think...ahh...no!

[The30YardSlant]

Not to mention that TO has more receptions, twice as many TDs and one less dumbarse prediction

[The30YardSlant]

Now now HH, don't let your A&M love affair write checks commmen sense can't cash.

40 points. We're gonna socre. Seattle.

Ringing any bells yet?

[The30YardSlant]

And TO is doing that with the best #2 WR in football. Roy Williams is the only receiver worth a damn up there.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Not to mention that TO has more receptions, twice as many TDs and one less dumbarse prediction

If your keeping score, you pretty much suck at keeping score.

:D

[ABQCOWBOY]

40 points. We're gonna socre. Seattle.

Ringing any bells yet?


Signing the most lucrative contract for a WR in the history of the NFL and demanding a new contract the next year, does that ring a bell?

Basically screwing Baltimore, signing with the Eagles and then acting the way he did, does that ring a bell?

Accidental OD, does that ring a bell?

I mean, I'm only getting started here.

[jimmy40]

More like a couple of trolz, try again.Don't have to, I remember it well.

[Jimz31]

what? Roy WIlliams will be doing this for a good while, TO maybe has 4 years of high-productivity left

In this NFL, it is a year-by-year thing....don't give me the "he'll be here for years from now" thing.

[The30YardSlant]

Signing the most lucrative contract for a WR in the history of the NFL and demanding a new contract the next year, does that ring a bell?

Basically screwing Baltimore, signing with the Eagles and then acting the way he did, does that ring a bell?

Accidental OD, does that ring a bell?

I mean, I'm only getting started here.

That's all well and good, but it's nothing more than a diversionary tactic on your part. TO takes care of his business on the field. Roy Williams runs his motuh and then gets shut down.

[Bob Sacamano]

Signing the most lucrative contract for a WR in the history of the NFL and demanding a new contract the next year, does that ring a bell?

that wasn't the most lucritave contract for a WR, heck it was lower in annual salary and bonus than what we signed him for

Accidental OD, does that ring a bell?

:jerk:

I mean, I'm only getting started here.

debate HH, but don't bring our players down w/ him

[Bob Sacamano]

In this NFL, it is a year-by-year thing....don't give me the "he'll be here for years from now" thing.

I already did

[jimmy40]

And TO is doing that with the best #2 WR in football. Roy Williams is the only receiver worth a damn up there.You just killed you're own arguement. aggies......:lmao:

[Jimz31]

I am in favor of Keeping T.O.....and that is saying something as hard as I have been on him.

[ABQCOWBOY]

That's all well and good, but it's nothing more than a diversionary tactic on your part. TO takes care of his business on the field. Roy Williams runs his motuh and then gets shut down.

Now your just being stupid.

I didn't do any of those things and I didn't hold a gun to TOs head. He managed that all by himself.

As far as Roy running his mouth and not producing, well, let me just say again that he's second in the NFL in receiving yards. Your statements don't hold water.

[DeathToTheSkinS]

no. T.O. hasnt even broken out yet or got started i mean its sorda been an "off year" for him.

[The30YardSlant]

If your keeping score, you pretty much suck at keeping score.

:D

No, you just suck at simple mathematics

69 > 64

8 > 4

And TO hasnt said anything he didnt back up on the field. Ever. He's a massive doosh, but he takes care of his business.

[The30YardSlant]

You just killed you're own arguement. aggies......:lmao:

Your brain must have skipped a beat on that response

When the QB is throwing to you every other pass play because everyone else sucks, you are bound to catch a few passes if for no other reason than you are getting a lot thrown at you. When you have a Pro Bowl caliber TE, a Pro Bowl caliber #2 WR, a #3 WR who is better than many teams #2, and a coach who sits on leads by running the ball, you arent going to get as many opportunities, and TO still has more production.

Comprende?

[ABQCOWBOY]

No, you just suck at simple mathematics

69 > 64

8 > 4

And TO hasnt said anything he didnt back up on the field. Ever. He's a massive doosh, but he takes care of his business.

This is a bold face lie. If this were true, he'd still be in Philly.

1043 vs 915 or 16.6 vs 13.3. Those don't count huh? I'm not surprised.

[Bob Sacamano]

This is a bold face lie. If this were true, he'd still be in Philly.

1043 vs 915 or 16.6 vs 13.3. Those don't count huh? I'm not surprised.

I'll take receptions and TDs anyday

[ABQCOWBOY]

Your brain must have skipped a beat on that response

When the QB is throwing to you every other pass play because everyone else sucks, you are bound to catch a few passes if for no other reason than you are getting a lot thrown at you. When you have a Pro Bowl caliber TE, a Pro Bowl caliber #2 WR, a #3 WR who is better than many teams #2, and a coach who sits on leads by running the ball, you arent going to get as many opportunities, and TO still has more production.

Comprende?

Actually, TO is probably just as big a part of our offense here in Dallas. TO would probably be leading the league right now if he would have caught half the drops he's had this year.

[The30YardSlant]

Now your just being stupid.

I don't suppose you see the epic irony in that sentence. No, I'm sure you don't. :lmao:

[quiote]I didn't do any of those things and I didn't hold a gun to TOs head. He managed that all by himself. [/quote]

What? :confused: That doesnt even make sense.

As far as Roy running his mouth and not producing, well, let me just say again that he's second in the NFL in receiving yards. Your statements don't hold water.

You can take your receiving yards, I'll take my catches, TDs and explosiveness, and we'll call me the winner, how about that? If my statements don't hold any water, than your's are dying somewhere in the Sierra Nevada.

[ABQCOWBOY]

I'll take receptions and TDs anyday


I'm sure you would but you have to look at the offenses each is playing in. Detoit doesn't get near as many opportunities as does Dallas. Of course the TD number is going to be bigger. You gotta think about what Roy would look like in this offense. Turn it around and think about what TO would look like in Detroit.

[jimmy40]

Your brain must have skipped a beat on that response

When the QB is throwing to you every other pass play because everyone else sucks, you are bound to catch a few passes if for no other reason than you are getting a lot thrown at you. When you have a Pro Bowl caliber TE, a Pro Bowl caliber #2 WR, a #3 WR who is better than many teams #2, and a coach who sits on leads by running the ball, you arent going to get as many opportunities, and TO still has more production.

Comprende?

Yes, being the only good player on your team makes it easier. Damn.

[ABQCOWBOY]

I don't suppose you see the epic irony in that sentence. No, I'm sure you don't. :lmao:

[quiote]I didn't do any of those things and I didn't hold a gun to TOs head. He managed that all by himself.

What? :confused: That doesnt even make sense.



You can take your receiving yards, I'll take my catches, TDs and explosiveness, and we'll call me the winner, how about that? If my statements don't hold any water, than your's are dying somewhere in the Sierra Nevada.[/QUOTE]


Of course I do HH. This is an A&M thing and anybody who knows you knows that about you.

[Bob Sacamano]

I'm sure you would but you have to look at the offenses each is playing in. Detoit doesn't get near as many opportunities as does Dallas. Of course the TD number is going to be bigger. You gotta think about what Roy would look like in this offense. Turn it around and think about what TO would look like in Detroit.

true, true

[The30YardSlant]

This is a bold face lie. If this were true, he'd still be in Philly.

1043 vs 915 or 16.6 vs 13.3. Those don't count huh? I'm not surprised.

Oh really? I seem to remember him leaving Philly because he couldnt get along with his coaches, teammates, or owner and was a massive cancer. he enevr made ANY statement that he didnt back up on the field, in fact he came back 8 weeks after breaking his leg to dominate in the Super Bowl.

Who's lying now? :rolleyes:

And again, I'll take my catches, TDs and playmaking ability any day of the week.

[jimmy40]

I'm sure you would but you have to look at the offenses each is playing in. Detoit doesn't get near as many opportunities as does Dallas. Of course the TD number is going to be bigger. You gotta think about what Roy would look like in this offense. Turn it around and think about what TO would look like in Detroit.TO would be getting kicked off his third team if he was in Detroit.

[The30YardSlant]

Yes, being the only good player on your team makes it easier. Damn.

Did I say it makes it easier? No? :rolleyes:

It makes it more likely you'll get more catches/yards/TDs because of sheer volume of throws going your way. Why do you think Steve Smith put up such ridiculous numbers last year?

[ABQCOWBOY]

Oh really? I seem to remember him leaving Philly because he couldnt get along with his coaches, teammates, or owner and was a massive cancer. he enevr made ANY statement that he didnt back up on the field, in fact he came back 8 weeks after breaking his leg to dominate in the Super Bowl.

Who's lying now? :rolleyes:

And again, I'll take my catches, TDs and playmaking ability any day of the week.


Your lying. TO said he would bring a championship to Philly. That didn't happen. You can ride TOs jock if you want but history shows that TO has done way worse then guaranting a win or a score.

[The30YardSlant]

Actually, TO is probably just as big a part of our offense here in Dallas. TO would probably be leading the league right now if he would have caught half the drops he's had this year.

First of all, TO has 11 drops, so if he had 6 more catches, that would put him at 75, not the league leader.

Second, Roy Williams gets more passes thrown his way every game

[ABQCOWBOY]

Did I say it makes it easier? No? :rolleyes:

It makes it more likely you'll get more catches/yards/TDs because of sheer volume of throws going your way. Why do you think Steve Smith put up such ridiculous numbers last year?

I'd actually be very interested in seeing how many times Roy has been thrown to as opposed to TO.

[pancakeman]

Would they need to put middle names on the backs of the jerseys, too? (Has any team ever had two players with the same first and last names before?)

[The30YardSlant]

Your lying. TO said he would bring a championship to Philly. That didn't happen. You can ride TOs jock if you want but history shows that TO has done way worse then guaranting a win or a score.

For the love of God, it's "you're".

And TO caught 9 passes for 120 yards in the SB with a leg that wasnt even 75% according to team doctors. He didnt let his team down in any way, shape, or form. McChoke lost that game.

[The30YardSlant]

Of course I do HH. This is an A&M thing and anybody who knows you knows that about you.

More senseless babble? :confused:

[Bob Sacamano]

Your lying. TO said he would bring a championship to Philly. That didn't happen.

he came close, actually was the best player on the field in that game

[The30YardSlant]

he came close, actually was the best player on the field in that game

Apparently, spouting facts makes us liars :laugh2:

[ABQCOWBOY]

More senseless babble? :confused:

Ouch, that one struck a nerve I'd guess. ;)

[ABQCOWBOY]

First of all, TO has 11 drops, so if he had 6 more catches, that would put him at 75, not the league leader.

Second, Roy Williams gets more passes thrown his way every game

I'd love to see this statistic. Please provide it.

[ABQCOWBOY]

he came close, actually was the best player on the field in that game


I'd agree with you Summer. All I'm saying is that Roy Williams guaranting a win ro points is not unique. It happens and it's happened to TO many times. TO has done these same kinds of things. This is not a reason to say one is better then the other. Shockey said we would never win in NY. Well, we did. He's an *** but he's also a great player. Just the way it works unfortunatly.

[The30YardSlant]

Ouch, that one struck a nerve I'd guess. ;)

No, I just like the posts I read to make sense

[ABQCOWBOY]

Apparently, spouting facts makes us liars :laugh2:

No HH, just you.

[Bob Sacamano]

This is not a reason to say one is better then the other.

yeah, don't get why this is a point of argument, it's not like one player determines the outcome of games, esp. what they say

hell, I'd take both TO and Roy on my team anyday, and Glenn, can you imagine that roster?

[ABQCOWBOY]

No, I just like the posts I read to make sense

I think what you ment to say here is that you just like them to agree with you particular brand of sense. I would hold my breath on that one.

BTW, how you coming on that stat?

[The30YardSlant]

I'd agree with you Summer. All I'm saying is that Roy Williams guaranting a win ro points is not unique. It happens and it's happened to TO many times. TO has done these same kinds of things. This is not a reason to say one is better then the other. Shockey said we would never win in NY. Well, we did. He's an *** but he's also a great player. Just the way it works unfortunatly.

TO never aguranteed a win in that game, he said he would bring a SB to Philly. And to add to that, Roy Williams, after assuring us of a 40 point outburst and win, got beat 34 to 7. TO almost single handidly brought a championship to Philly.

[The30YardSlant]

I think what you ment to say here is that you just like them to agree with you particular brand of sense. I would hold my breath on that one.

BTW, how you coming on that stat?

No, I mean your post sdid not make any sense in the context of my post, this thread, or in any alternate reality. It was improper usage, a nonsensical post by all standards. It wasnt about me agreeing with you or not, it was simply poor english skills on your part.

[The30YardSlant]

No HH, just you.

:lmao: :laugh2: :lmao: :laugh2:

Again, I doubt you realize the massive beatdown you just personally brought upon yourself. Thanks for proving my point. You are simply too much.

:lmao: :laugh2: :lmao: :laugh2:

[Danny White]

I think what you ment to say here is that you just like them to agree with you particular brand of sense. I would hold my breath on that one.

BTW, how you coming on that stat?

You might as well be arguing with a brick wall.

FWIW, I think a couple of things are obvious here.

1) TO is a better wide receiver than TFRW... a fact that should be pretty obvious. However...
2) TFRW is a darn good wideout, on the verge of entering the top tier if he isn't there already.
3) Plus, TFRW is much younger.
4) Lastly, while TFRW seems to be a jerk in his own right, TO is in a class all to himself and is a much bigger headache.

All in all, while I wouldn't make this speculative trade mid-season this year due to chemistry concerns, I'd be really tempted to in the off-season.

But it's a moot point.

Mike Williams, however, could probably be had for a ham-sandwich, as he's currently getting beat out by a Backup QB on Detroit's WR depth-chart. :eek:

[ABQCOWBOY]

yeah, don't get why this is a point of argument, it's not like one player determines the outcome of games, esp. what they say

hell, I'd take both TO and Roy on my team anyday, and Glenn, can you imagine that roster?

I don't love TO but i recognize that he has been a great player. If I were able to take one, right now, I'd take Roy Williams. He's younger, he's producing in a bad offense and he's not a bad guy. Yeah, he made a stupid statement but it's not like he's on the front pages week to week.

How intelligent is this BS about how much better TO is then Roy Williams?

Here are TO's statistics in his first 3 years and Roy Williams' stats with 3 seasons not yet completed.

TO

Yds 2553, TDs 26, Rec 162, Avg 15.75.

Roy

Yds 2547, TDs 20, Rec 162, Avg 15.7

Honestly, it's rediculous to say that TO is the better WR. Age is what the deciding factor is in any trade consideration, such as this. Roy Williams has years left to get better. TO is near the end.

[Bob Sacamano]

Mike Williams, however, could probably be had for a ham-sandwich, as he's currently getting beat out by a Backup QB on Detoit's WR depth-chart. :eek:

no more TEs! PLEASE!! :D

[Bob Sacamano]

Age is what the deciding factor is in any trade consideration, such as this. Roy Williams has years left to get better. TO is near the end.

:hammer:

if you go all the way back to the 2nd reply in this thread ;) I said I would do that trade in a heartbeat, WIlliams is going to be good for a long time, TO, maybe 4 years left of high-productivity

[ABQCOWBOY]

:lmao: :laugh2: :lmao: :laugh2:

Again, I doubt you realize the massive beatdown you just personally brought upon yourself. Thanks for proving my point. You are simply too much.

:lmao: :laugh2: :lmao: :laugh2:

And I suppose, this is your version of the story yeah? If you say so.

Just produce the statistic you claimed earlier. Has Roy been thrown to more then TO this year?

[ABQCOWBOY]

TO never aguranteed a win in that game, he said he would bring a SB to Philly. And to add to that, Roy Williams, after assuring us of a 40 point outburst and win, got beat 34 to 7. TO almost single handidly brought a championship to Philly.


Sounds like a very long winded way of saying that he promised something and failed. OK then.

[The30YardSlant]

Mike Williams, however, could probably be had for a ham-sandwich, as he's currently getting beat out by a Backup QB on Detroit's WR depth-chart. :eek:

Why? We don't need another TE

[The30YardSlant]

Sounds like a very long winded way of saying that he promised something and failed. OK then.

If you can't recognize the difference, then there's no point in debating with you, because you clearly don't have a clue.

[Cbz40]

I don't love TO but i recognize that he has been a great player. If I were able to take one, right now, I'd take Roy Williams. He's younger, he's producing in a bad offense and he's not a bad guy. Yeah, he made a stupid statement but it's not like he's on the front pages week to week.

How intelligent is this BS about how much better TO is then Roy Williams?

Here are TO's statistics in his first 3 years and Roy Williams' stats with 3 seasons not yet completed.

TO

Yds 2553, TDs 26, Rec 162, Avg 15.75.

Roy

Yds 2547, TDs 20, Rec 162, Avg 15.7

Honestly, it's rediculous to say that TO is the better WR. Age is what the deciding factor is in any trade consideration, such as this. Roy Williams has years left to get better. TO is near the end.


And that my friend is why I would make the trade in a blink of an eye.

[jimmy40]

I don't love TO but i recognize that he has been a great player. If I were able to take one, right now, I'd take Roy Williams. He's younger, he's producing in a bad offense and he's not a bad guy. Yeah, he made a stupid statement but it's not like he's on the front pages week to week.

How intelligent is this BS about how much better TO is then Roy Williams?

Here are TO's statistics in his first 3 years and Roy Williams' stats with 3 seasons not yet completed.

TO

Yds 2553, TDs 26, Rec 162, Avg 15.75.

Roy

Yds 2547, TDs 20, Rec 162, Avg 15.7

Honestly, it's rediculous to say that TO is the better WR. Age is what the deciding factor is in any trade consideration, such as this. Roy Williams has years left to get better. TO is near the end.But TO had to play with Jerry Rice. Obviously that made it much harder. :rolleyes:

[Danny White]

And I suppose, this is your version of the story yeah? If you say so.

Just produce the statistic you claimed earlier. Has Roy been thrown to more then TO this year?

TO has been targeted 121 times this year.

TFRW has been targeted 114 times.

So who wins this argument, I lost track. :p:

[Bob Sacamano]

So who wins this argument, I lost track. :p:

cbz40!

[ABQCOWBOY]

If you can't recognize the difference, then there's no point in debating with you, because you clearly don't have a clue.

OK, that's cool, but don't forget to get that statistic posted. Off you go skippy.

[Cbz40]

cbz40!

I would say Mr White & Mr. ABQ......;) :D

I forgot I had you on ignore....:bang2:

[Bob Sacamano]

I would say Mr White & Mr. ABQ......;) :D

I forgot I had you on ignore....:bang2:

someone's getting a lump of coal for Christmas

[Cbz40]

someone's getting a lump of coal for Christmas

or a bomb in their stocking......:D

[Bob Sacamano]

or a bomb in their stocking......:D

you wouldn't

[Danny White]

OK, that's cool, but don't forget to get that statistic posted. Off you go skippy.
I posted it for you and you were right. Did you miss it?

[The30YardSlant]

And I suppose, this is your version of the story yeah? If you say so.

Just produce the statistic you claimed earlier. Has Roy been thrown to more then TO this year?

Terrell Owens has been thrown to an average of 10.08 times per game in 12 games this season

Roy Williams has been thrown to an average of 11.5 times per games in 12 starts

It's not A LOT more passes, but it averages out to about 30 more passes per year.

[Cbz40]

you wouldn't

Nawwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.......:rolleyes: :D

[Danny White]

Terrell Owens has been thrown to an average of 10.08 times per game in 12 games this season

Roy Williams has been thrown to an average of 11.5 times per games in 12 starts

It's not A LOT more passes, but it averages out to about 30 more passes per year.
Where did you get that? I went to the stats on Sports Illustrated and it said that TO had been targeted more than TFRW.

[The30YardSlant]

or a bomb in their stocking......:D

:explode:

[ABQCOWBOY]

I posted it for you and you were right. Did you miss it?

Yeah, sort of. I was busy fighting back HH's vicious ankle bitting assault when you posted it. I read it after I had already asked again.

BTW, thank you for doing that. I knew it wasn't correct but I had hoped that HH would look it up and come clean. No matter. Thanks again DW.

[Hostile]

I don't have Madden, so I can't.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Terrell Owens has been thrown to an average of 10.08 times per game in 12 games this season

Roy Williams has been thrown to an average of 11.5 times per games in 12 starts

It's not A LOT more passes, but it averages out to about 30 more passes per year.

Show the link.

[Yeagermeister]

I don't have Madden, so I can't.

:laugh1:

Wanna borrow my copy?

[Danny White]

Show the link.

For the record:

TO's Stats:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/3664/index.html


TFRW's Stats:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/6766/index.html




It looks like TO could set a new personal best for himself for targets this year.

[The30YardSlant]

Where did you get that? I went to the stats on Sports Illustrated and it said that TO had been targeted more than TFRW.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr.php

These stats were as of the end of week 12. Roy Williams had 107 passes thrown his way, TO had 108 passes thrown his way. This does not include passes thrown behind the line of scrimmage however, which TO has seen 2 of and RW has seen 14 of (Surprised me too, they must run WRs screens often). Now, according CBSsportslines game logs from this past week, RW saw 15 passes thrown his way (but only caught 3, Kitna was horrible and Williams dropped several), TO saw 11 passes thrown his way.

107 + 14 + 15 = 136, or about 11.5 passes per game

108 + 2 + 11 = 121, or about 10.08 passes per game

[The30YardSlant]

For the record:

TO's Stats:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/3664/index.html


TFRW's Stats:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/6766/index.html




It looks like TO could set a new personal best for himself for targets this year.

There must no be one uniform stat keeper, because I've seen 3 different numbers in regards to TO's passes thrown to from yesterday's game.

[Chocolate Lab]

In a heartbeat.

[Hostile]

:laugh1:

Wanna borrow my copy?Naw.

I haven't played a video game in years.

[The30YardSlant]

Naw.

I haven't played a video game in years.

:(....

[The30YardSlant]

There must no be one uniform stat keeper, because I've seen 3 different numbers in regards to TO's passes thrown to from yesterday's game.

And if my stats are wrong, I apologize in advance, I hadnt seen those SI stats

[jimmy40]

And if my stats are wrong, I apologize in advance, I hadnt seen those SI statsHow can you apologize in advance when you've already posted them?

[Danny White]

And if my stats are wrong, I apologize in advance, I hadnt seen those SI stats

You deserve some credit for finding some at least.

This whole thread is stupid, so it doesn't really matter. You just took it to a whole new level... but I suppose that was your intent from the beginning! :p:

As long as we're entertaining this absurd hypothetical, what would they put on the back of the uniforms to differentiate between the two Roy Williamses? I'd recommend putting their full names "The Great Roy Williams" and "The Fake Roy Williams."

[Hostile]

:(....I have no idea what that means.

[The30YardSlant]

I have no idea what that means.

Video games can soothe the soul ;)

[The30YardSlant]

You deserve some credit for finding some at least.

This whole thread is stupid, so it doesn't really matter. You just took it to a whole new level... but I suppose that was your intent from the beginning! :p:

As long as we're entertaining this absurd hypothetical, what would they put on the back of the uniforms to differentiate between the two Roy Williamses? I'd recommend putting their full names "The Great Roy Williams" and "The Fake Roy Williams."

How about "DADDY" and "Quitter", respectively ;)

[ABQCOWBOY]

How about "DADDY" and "Quitter", respectively ;)


I suppose if it works for you, that's all that really matters.

I honestly don't see the big deal. Williams' stats are remarkably simular in his first 3 seasons (with 9 fewer games played) then are Ownes'. He made a stupid statement that he probably shouldn't have but in the grand scheme, it's not that big a deal. It could be much worse.

For Example, he could be in jail for demanding entrance into a stip club after hours, striking a police officer and generally being an idiot. Bengals WR Reggie McNeal yesterday.

You don't see that with Roy Williams. At least, I'm not aware of any such behavior. JMO I suppose.

[schon]

This is exactly why it's so ridiculous. Even if they are comparable talent-wise, why would Detroit trade a 24yr old for a 32yr old?

b/c its matt millen. ;)

[CrazyCowboy]

Detroit would laugh at us....

[Chuck 54]

I would trade T.O. for Roy Williams today, even in the midst of a playoff run. That would be a trade you'd have to be an idiot not to make...it would secure the WR spot at the top for years to come, barring injury.

Nice hypothetical, but there aren't many teams who would trade their young #1 WR for T.O. simply because he's near the end of his career, not even considering all the other reasons.

[Hostile]

Video games can soothe the soul ;)
Not if you have an angry soul. I play golf. Fresh air, sunshine, and exercise.

[Aikbach]

Not if you have an angry soul. I play golf. Fresh air, sunshine, and exercise.In that case try an ESV or KJV.;)

[Hostile]

In that case try an ESV or KJV.;)A who and a what?

[Aikbach]

A who and a what?English Standard Version, King James Version.

[Hostile]

English Standard Version, King James Version.Oh gotcha. Do that daily.

[Doomsday101]

Without thinking twice about it. Williams has great talent and is much younger. I think Williams is now entering his prime.

[BrAinPaiNt]

I lost a large amount of brain cells reading this thread, and I need the few I have, now I have a headache.

Thanks Guys. ;)

[sportsman]

I use to be in support for TO and all his antics. This team don't need him.

If not Detroit, anywhere.

[NIBGoldenchild]

I'd actually be very interested in seeing how many times Roy has been thrown to as opposed to TO.


STATS, Inc. has TO at 121 attempts, and RW at 114. They also have TO at 10 drops, while Roy only has 2.