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WoodysGirl
12-22-2006, 08:03 AM
Defense Vulnerable, Redskins Coach Says

By Howard Bryant
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, December 22, 2006; Page E03

Either because of his own curiosity as a defensive coach or because for so much of this season it has been the central trouble spot for his defense, Gregg Williams has been forced to focus on the center of the football field.

Williams, the Washington Redskins' assistant head coach-defense, isn't exactly sure of it, but he believes the high number of big plays executed in the middle of the field, between the linebackers and safeties, may represent an important but disturbing trend: After years of confused quarterbacks being forced into mistakes, offenses may have caught up to and figured out vulnerabilities in the cover-2 zone defense, and its Tampa-2 variation, made popular by Tampa Bay defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin.

The result is that Williams is faced with potentially reinventing portions of his defense, since a good deal of his philosophy relies on aspects of the cover-2 and Tampa-2 defenses.

In the offseason, Williams said, he will study defenses around the league to try to determine if offenses have indeed found the trick to beating the cover-2, a zone defense designed to take away deep passes by having the safeties split the deep part of the field.

"Those are things we're going to have to address," Williams said. "That will be one of our projects in the offseason."

It may well be one reason why Williams's defense has struggled. Washington is 30th in giving up pass plays of 20 yards or more, and 29th in giving up pass plays of 40 yards or more.

The idea of the cover-2 is to force the quarterback to settle for short-yardage passes in the hopes of goading him into mistakes. Should a quarterback want to throw down the sidelines, he would have to contend with a cornerback who is covering the short zone, and the safeties, who are deep. Traditionally, throwing to the sidelines against the cover-2 is too risky.

Correcting Tampa-2 and cover-2 vulnerabilities are especially important to a Williams-style defense, for he asks more of his defensive backs in run support than most defensive coaches. The Redskins' safeties are vulnerable because Williams demands that safeties and cornerbacks tackle. In turn, offenses have attempted to draw in the safeties with play-action fakes. Once the safety takes a few steps in to help with the run, the quarterback throws deep down the middle into the exposed area.

One remedy is for the defensive backs -- in five- and six-defensive back formations -- to jam the receiver and slow his progress downfield, giving the middle linebacker time to cover the slot (inside) receiver.

"You need to work with other defenders as far as getting jams. That makes a big difference," middle linebacker Lemar Marshall said. "If you're going to let someone just run free, that's going to make it difficult for the Mike [middle linebacker] and the safety. Everybody has to work together. If you get that jam at the line, it takes a lot more pressure off of the Mike. But you need to find ways to close that middle."

But, as defenses have found out this year, the one vulnerability in the cover-2 is the deep middle, where the safeties are asked to cover a great deal of ground. The middle is especially vulnerable in the Tampa-2 variation because it asks the "Mike backer" to line up against and cover a slot receiver on deep routes.

"There was a time when cover-2 was your safety net," Redskins safety Vernon Fox said. "You knew where the weakness of the defense was, but because of the innovativeness of the defense with a linebacker covering the middle of the field, it was difficult for teams to find that opening. Right now, it looks like teams are able to find those gaps."

The center of the field has been where the Redskins have given up some of their biggest plays, plays Williams would care to forget. Twice in a 36-22 loss Oct. 22 at Indianapolis, tight end Dallas Clark and wide receiver Reggie Wayne beat the Redskins in the middle for big gains. Wayne's was a backbreaking, 51-yard touchdown pass.

In Week 3 at Houston, Texans wide receiver Andre Johnson lined up in the slot and caught a 53-yard pass that set up a touchdown.

In the Redskins' 22-19 win Nov. 5 against Dallas, Cowboys tight end Jason Witten caught a 28-yard pass in the seam that set up a possible game-winning field goal. The kick was blocked, and the Redskins went on to win in bizarre fashion.

For much of the season, the Redskins were first in the league in big plays allowed, but in recent weeks, Williams said, he has noticed that the Redskins are not the only ones vulnerable in the middle of the field, leading him to wonder if offenses may have found a new move. Middle linebacker Khary Campbell watches a fair amount of game film and sees the same thing. In studying game film of the St. Louis Rams for this Sunday's game, he noticed the Rams attempting to exploit Chicago middle linebacker Brian Urlacher in coverage.

"That middle is now the spot they're looking for," Campbell said. "You have to be able to disguise it a little more and jam receivers better. Otherwise, that is the big hole."

LINK (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/21/AR2006122101553.html)

LD Fan
12-22-2006, 08:12 AM
Defense Vulnerable, Redskins Coach Says

By Howard Bryant
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, December 22, 2006; Page E03

Either because of his own curiosity as a defensive coach or because for so much of this season it has been the central trouble spot for his defense, Gregg Williams has been forced to focus on the center of the football field.


LINK (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/21/AR2006122101553.html)

Good read. Or maybe the overpaid Washington defense just sucks.

superpunk
12-22-2006, 08:16 AM
It's still a good defense if you have the MLB to run it with, which would be why the Bears are so successful in the middle. But Lemar Marshall is no Antonio Pierce. So much for keeping the core palyers around, Gibbs.

Bob Sacamano
12-22-2006, 08:58 AM
it was only a matter of time, sometimes you're gonna need talent across the board, and that's only done by drafting and developing players through your system

aikemirv
12-22-2006, 09:21 AM
Maybe I am wrong but think the Cowboys have found another way to challenge the cover 2.

That is they have the play where they run two WR to the side, one 10 yards deeper than the other and when the safety bites on the deep one Romo throws to the shallow one.

That play has worked a lot this year and it looks to me as if the teams are in a cover 2 when it is successful.

ThreeSportStar80
12-22-2006, 09:23 AM
I've never been a fan of the Cover 2.....

lurkercowboy
12-22-2006, 10:09 AM
Nothing new. 25 years ago I had a football board game and I cannot remember the name. It had offensive play cards which you overlaid with clear defensive play cards. The cover 2 was seriously vulnerable to the deep middle pass, esp to the TE. If you choose a go pattern to the TE and the defense was cover 2, it was almost always a big play.

DipChit
12-22-2006, 10:12 AM
Yeah right.. nice try Gregg.

The scheme has been around for a long time and only now offenses are starting to figure it out?

Clove
12-22-2006, 10:18 AM
In Madden 2007 (as if this is real life :) ) I attack it by letting both WR fade, sending a back out of the back field to shoot straight for the sideline, then the 3rd WR I'll make him a fake fade towards the sideline and then shoot straight to the middle of the field, the guy in the middle is almost always open, and if he's not, then one of the fade routes is opened.

Williams should play Madden more. ;)

jterrell
12-22-2006, 10:22 AM
when u have 235 pound safeties then yea that deep middle is in serious jeopardy.

dallas and washington traded abuses of deep center last season.

neither taylor or rw are ideally suited to playing cover 2. they are better blitzing or in man covering and allowing others to play zone coverage.

kmd24
12-22-2006, 11:25 AM
This is just retarded. Any zone defense is vulnerable when your team has no pass rush. The Skins cover two would be fine if Andre Carter hadn't been a monumental FA bust in 2006.

Like it's news where and how to attack a zone defense.

On top of that, Williams wants to play an "aggressive" cover 2 where the safeties key the run. Recipe for disaster against teams like Indy where the QB is good at playaction.

Cliffs notes version of the article:

Greg Williams, the one-trick pony defensive coordinator of the Redskins, has realized that the NFL has figured out his one trick and has invented an elaborate story about the demise of a decades old defense in hopes of retaining his employment for another year.

MichaelWinicki
12-22-2006, 11:52 AM
This is just retarded. Any zone defense is vulnerable when your team has no pass rush. The Skins cover two would be fine if Andre Carter hadn't been a monumental FA bust in 2006.

Like it's news where and how to attack a zone defense.

On top of that, Williams wants to play an "aggressive" cover 2 where the safeties key the run. Recipe for disaster against teams like Indy where the QB is good at playaction.

Cliffs notes version of the article:

Greg Williams, the one-trick pony defensive coordinator of the Redskins, has realized that the NFL has figured out his one trick and has invented an elaborate story about the demise of a decades old defense in hopes of retaining his employment for another year.


I wouldn't bust on Williams too much. Our own "Cover-2" hasn't been worth a **** in my opinion.

Just like the article mentions I don't know if it's because we're not jamming guys at the line of scrimmage or what but the middle of the field in our own defense has been a sieve.

DipChit
12-22-2006, 11:59 AM
I wouldn't bust on Williams too much. Our own "Cover-2" hasn't been worth a **** in my opinion.

Just like the article mentions I don't know if it's because we're not jamming guys at the line of scrimmage or what but the middle of the field in our own defense has been a sieve.

Eh.. thats a fundamental defense. If you're getting burnt running it it's prolly because you dont have the right players to execute it properly.

It's almost like saying that if your team sucks at tackling it's because "offensive players have seemed to learn how avoid being tackled these days". ;)

kmd24
12-22-2006, 12:03 PM
I wouldn't bust on Williams too much. Our own "Cover-2" hasn't been worth a **** in my opinion.

Just like the article mentions I don't know if it's because we're not jamming guys at the line of scrimmage or what but the middle of the field in our own defense has been a sieve.

Maybe so, but it's pretty silly to claim that offenses have suddenly figured out the defense. It's not a particularly complex scheme.

And in case you missed it, an unnamed Redskins player claims that GW runs Cover-2 or blitzes on every defensive play. Not exactly the pinnacle of innovation.

cwalk
12-22-2006, 01:02 PM
good read

LeonDixson
12-22-2006, 01:12 PM
Nothing new. 25 years ago I had a football board game and I cannot remember the name. It had offensive play cards which you overlaid with clear defensive play cards. The cover 2 was seriously vulnerable to the deep middle pass, esp to the TE. If you choose a go pattern to the TE and the defense was cover 2, it was almost always a big play.

My football game with the vibrating field moving the players around didn't have any cards. When I wanted the WR to get loose I just taped a magnet on the defender's feet.:D

Yakuza Rich
12-22-2006, 01:14 PM
Tons of teams utilize the Cover 2 defense a high percentage of the time. With teams going to more deep threats at TE that present mismatches against LB's, that's one of the ways offenses have combated the Cover 2. The other is that the Cover 2 is reliant on speed and they sacrifice size to get that speed. Thus, it's sometimes pretty easy to just outpower the Cover 2 or if you can keep time of possession, the Cover 2 defenses tend to wear down pretty quickly. The Bears are unique because while the D-Line isn't very big, they have a lot of bodies to rotate in there. And their LB's are actually quite big, but they have unique speed to still play the Cover 2. And that's why they are so good.

But the Cover 2 is still quite successful. Like any defense, you just need the players for it.


YAKUZA

TEK2000
12-23-2006, 09:35 AM
It might help the Redskins if their Safeties and Cornerbacks actually held meetings together. I'm not sure how you can run a cover 2 defense when your Safeties and Cornerbacks have separate meetings to cover film study and assignment responsibilities.

There was a long article posted a while back that indicated that the Redskins safeties and CB's attended separate meetings and would show up at practice and not even know what the other group was doing.