Nate Clements is going to be a FA

[Tass]

I was sitting here thinking about what we need to make us a better team. Henry has been looking a little stiff and more than a little slow for a CB. I know some people want to move him to FS but he is getting paid WAY to much to have him playing S. If we were to go after Clements in the offseason and sign him then our draft needs would be reduced to 1) a bonafide, playmaking DE, 2) WR and 3) FS.

What do you guys think? What should be done with Henry? Move him to FS and restructure his deal? Cut him? Let him be a highly overpaid FS? Would you be for going after Clements?

[burmafrd]

One thing that always torques me is this BS about "he is paid too much...."
I do not give a rats behind if someone is paid 10 million as a CB- if he is better as a FS and it helps the team then DO IT. If the guys is paid 10 million and there is a better player then BENCH HIM. Doing something just because of how much he is paid is BEYOND STUPID.

[Novacek84]

Clements should be our top priority this offseason. He is a playmaker. I would move Henry to safety and let's go...

[Wrangler87]

If Henry was capapble of playing Safety, we should already have him there.

[Tass]

One thing that always torques me is this BS about "he is paid too much...."
I do not give a rats behind if someone is paid 10 million as a CB- if he is better as a FS and it helps the team then DO IT. If the guys is paid 10 million and there is a better player then BENCH HIM. Doing something just because of how much he is paid is BEYOND STUPID.

It's called budgeting. You pay players to fulfill certain roles accordingly. You wouldn't pay 50k for a Chevy Cavalier when you could pay the same amount for a Corvette would you? It sounds like you are saying it shouldn't matter how much you're paying for the Cavalier as long as it gets you to work!

[ManicDepressiveMan]

Clements should be our top priority this offseason. He is a playmaker. I would move Henry to safety and let's go...

Agreed.

[LatinMind]

clements will not be a FA. buffalo said earlier int he week, he will be franchised if they cant sign him to a long term deal, and they would be stupid not to

[Tass]

clements will not be a FA. buffalo said earlier int he week, he will be franchised if they cant sign him to a long term deal, and they would be stupid not to

I thought he was an UFA?

[MarkBrunell]

clements will not be a FA. buffalo said earlier int he week, he will be franchised if they cant sign him to a long term deal, and they would be stupid not to

Thats odd because Buffalo told him they won't franchise Clements.

If Clements does hit the FA market hes going to become the highest paid CB for the Redskins. He was drafted by Gregg Williams and has played in his system.

[McCordsville Cowboy]

I was sitting here thinking about what we need to make us a better team. Henry has been looking a little stiff and more than a little slow for a CB. I know some people want to move him to FS but he is getting paid WAY to much to have him playing S. If we were to go after Clements in the offseason and sign him then our draft needs would be reduced to 1) a bonafide, playmaking DE, 2) WR and 3) FS.

What do you guys think? What should be done with Henry? Move him to FS and restructure his deal? Cut him? Let him be a highly overpaid FS? Would you be for going after Clements?


Let him be that.. He shouldnt complain because he is still getting paid and he has played there before. He got his last big contract so he should be fine. Show clements the cash and give me Adalius and our D is solid. Also draft Merriweather, Landry, or Nelson in the draft for depth in case P. Watkins doesnt pan out.

[Arch Stanton]

Thats odd because Buffalo told him they won't franchise Clements.

If Clements does hit the FA market hes going to become the highest paid CB for the Redskins. He was drafted by Gregg Williams and has played in his system.

....and I kinda thought you had to have cap space to do that. :D

[Tass]

....and I kinda thought you had to have cap space to do that. :D

:laugh2:

[Hoofbite]

I thought he was an UFA?

Franchising a player has nothing to do with Restricted or Unrestricted.

[Tobal]

With the cap jumping and expecting to jump again soon you can over pay somewhat if you feel it's the missing piece.

H'es a damn fine CB, but everyone is going to be overpaying and I just don't think that's our big need.

FS, James to get his head out of his arse and a pressure guy our what we need on defense.

We must get Adams replacement this offseason so he is ready in 2008, Rivera must not be starting in 2007.

So FS, OG, OT, OLB/DE, and WR (most likely) are our priority needs. Does that seem familiar to anyone else?

[Tass]

Franchising a player has nothing to do with Restricted or Unrestricted.

D'oh! Brainfart. Jeez, how much must it suck to be franchised?

[DBoys]

Clements should be our top priority this offseason. He is a playmaker. I would move Henry to safety and let's go...

Amen Henry is not cutting it.

[MarkBrunell]

....and I kinda thought you had to have cap space to do that. :D

We're below the cap space every offseason. The only thing Dan Snyder is good at is beating the cap. The rest is a different story.

[DBoys]

If we lockup another shutdown corner it would compensate for the lack of a pass rush.

Henry needs to go to FS or be cut because he gets schooled by all the speed we face at the WR position.

[DBoys]

We're below the cap space every offseason. The only thing Dan Snyder is good at is beating the cap. The rest is a different story.

Not until you redo contracts or cut players. Overpaying FA's is not beating the cap. The cap is not something you beat it is something you manage and Snyder sucks at it.

[Apollo Creed]

Does he return kicks or punts?

[MichaelWinicki]

With the cap jumping and expecting to jump again soon you can over pay somewhat if you feel it's the missing piece.

H'es a damn fine CB, but everyone is going to be overpaying and I just don't think that's our big need.

FS, James to get his head out of his arse and a pressure guy our what we need on defense.

We must get Adams replacement this offseason so he is ready in 2008, Rivera must not be starting in 2007.

So FS, OG, OT, OLB/DE, and WR (most likely) are our priority needs. Does that seem familiar to anyone else?


We have one in McQ.


Why is it that joefan always discounts the younger players? Instead they want to pay top-buck to an established vet.

[big dog cowboy]

If we lockup another shutdown corner it would compensate for the lack of a pass rush.
Interesting thought but very difficult for me to buy. I would rather have a awesome pass rush.

[MichaelWinicki]

Amen Henry is not cutting it.


You know the guy is injured right?

[DBoys]

Interesting thought but very difficult for me to buy. I would rather have a awesome pass rush.

Oh me too I am just saying it will help because they throw at Henry on pretty much every 3rd down.

I have no doubt Dallas will go after pass rush guys in FA or the draft.

[Arch Stanton]

We're below the cap space every offseason. The only thing Dan Snyder is good at is beating the cap. The rest is a different story.

Gotta newsflash for you....31 other teams are also below the cap. :D

From what I have seen (it might not be 100% correct) there are 19 teams with $20 million+ to spend during the offseason while Washington have $1 million. I'm guessing Danny will have to be creative to sign Clements. Ya think? ;)

[MichaelWinicki]

Interesting thought but very difficult for me to buy. I would rather have a awesome pass rush.


And considering most of our coverage problems have been with the safeties and the linebackers I don't having another lock-down corner will change things much.

Not that I consider Clements to be a "lock-down" type corner. He gets burned far too often.

[vlad]

A healthy Anthony Henry is an excellent CB, unless I missed something that says his knee problem is permanent, you all are crazy for wanting to switch him out. Not because Clements or anyone else might be better, but because you have a, when healthy excellent CB, and we have so many holes to fill.

All FA should be focused on interior OL first and foremost. meaning, Rivera needs to go.

[jazzcat22]

....and I kinda thought you had to have cap space to do that. :D

And Taglibue is gone, so unless he has some influence still with the NFL to save his favorite team the deadskins, they will not have the cap room.

[Bcburns]

If Henry was capapble of playing Safety, we should already have him there.

In his rookie season he played FS. During that year he had 10 interceptions, 17 passes defensed, and 54 tackles.

That is much better than anything we've had at safety since Woody.

[MichaelWinicki]

Gotta newsflash for you....31 other teams are also below the cap. :D

From what I have seen (it might not be 100% correct) there are 19 teams with $20 million+ to spend during the offseason while Washington have $1 million. I'm guessing Danny will have to be creative to sign Clements. Ya think? ;)

That's the problem. With all that cap space you could see some ridiculous contracts for prime free agents.

Have to build from within.

[DBoys]

A healthy Anthony Henry is an excellent CB, unless I missed something that says his knee problem is permanent, you all are crazy for wanting to switch him out. Not because Clements or anyone else might be better, but because you have a, when healthy excellent CB, and we have so many holes to fill.

All FA should be focused on interior OL first and foremost. meaning, Rivera needs to go.

Henry has been burned since he has been here. He has had flashes at times but never been worth the money we paid him.

I do agree about Rivera.

[MichaelWinicki]

A healthy Anthony Henry is an excellent CB, unless I missed something that says his knee problem is permanent, you all are crazy for wanting to switch him out. Not because Clements or anyone else might be better, but because you have a, when healthy excellent CB, and we have so many holes to fill.

All FA should be focused on interior OL first and foremost. meaning, Rivera needs to go.

Nice to see a sensible post instead of the http://www.candida-yeast-problems.com/crazy.gif I've been reading.

[Tobal]

And considering most of our coverage problems have been with the safeties and the linebackers I don't having another lock-down corner will change things much.

Not that I consider Clements to be a "lock-down" type corner. He gets burned far too often.

I never said we have to draft him, but he better get some playing time, I know it's crazy but Parcells praising a guy doesn't mean as much to me as it used to. IE Stewart, Blade, Pettitti, etc, etc.... I don't think it's because he lacks the ability to judge talent, I've come to believe it's one of his many motivational tools. I'd love for McQuistan to be What Parcells says he can be.

Quoted the wrong thread, was referring to Adams replacement in 2008

[MichaelWinicki]

Henry has been burned since he has been here. He has had flashes at times but never been worth the money we paid him.

I do agree about Rivera.


That's a big-time exaggeration. When the guy has been healthy he's performed well. Yeah, he's been burned a few times but this is the NFL and the guys on the other side get paid too. I see Champ Bailey get burned on occasion too.

[Arch Stanton]

That's the problem. With all that cap space you could see some ridiculous contracts for prime free agents.

Have to build from within.


This is the reason I don't want to go after Adalius Thomas. That guy will get a nice contract, but hopefully not with us.

[Silver Bullet]

There's no way the Cowboys will pay top dollars for another CB. Henry is the highest paid player on the team and I personally think he's playing injured. Washington will go after Clements and probably get him.

[MichaelWinicki]

I never said we have to draft him, but he better get some playing time, I know it's crazy but Parcells praising a guy doesn't mean as much to me as it used to. IE Stewart, Blade, Pettitti, etc, etc.... I don't think it's because he lacks the ability to judge talent, I've come to believe it's one of his many motivational tools. I'd love for McQuistan to be What Parcells says he can be.

But at some point you do have to role the die and see what happens. It's the nature of the game. I'd love to be able to spend top money on every name FA or have a 1st or 2nd round draft pick at every position. But it doesn't work like that. If you're going to be a SB contender then some of the guys drafted in the 5th, 6th or 7th rounds need to come through on occasion. And need I remind you that the guy leading the offense is an undrafted FA. This team has plenty of holes and limited resources to fill those holes.

[MichaelWinicki]

There's no way the Cowboys will pay top dollars for another CB. Henry is the highest paid player on the team and I personally think he's playing injured. Washington will go after Clements and probably get him.

Agree... at least on the Cowboy perspective.

[DBoys]

That's a big-time exaggeration. When the guy has been healthy he's performed well. Yeah, he's been burned a few times but this is the NFL and the guys on the other side get paid too. I see Champ Bailey get burned on occasion too.

I don't think it is. Henry is ALWAYS giving up big plays. You don't see Champ getting out run consistently. Burned a few times hehe

When he is healthy excuses excuses. The guy is getting primo bucks and hasn't done squat but pick a few balls off.

Offenses constantly scheme him against speed guys and he gets eaten alive.

Just watch Henry vs. Lloyd and that sums up Henry's existence here.

[Tobal]

But at some point you do have to role the die and see what happens. It's the nature of the game. I'd love to be able to spend top money on every name FA or have a 1st or 2nd round draft pick at every position. But it doesn't work like that. If you're going to be a SB contender then some of the guys drafted in the 5th, 6th or 7th rounds need to come through on occasion. And need I remind you that the guy leading the offense is an undrafted FA. This team has plenty of holes and limited resources to fill those holes.

You seem to be suggesting I want draft highly for that position or sign a high profile FA. All I'm saying is that we need to decide if we have an answer for that position in 2008.

I realize we might and I realize you can sometimes fill positions with late picks and Undrafted rooks. I see that as more of a worry than CB.

I think some people forget pre Henry at the CB position. Glenn is damn solid and I even like Reeves. My point on my post is that CB is way down the list of issues on this team and unlike most I think Adams will be at LT in 2007. I don't want to go into the 2008 season with no options at LT

I think it's easy to say that RG and FS have been abysmal at times this year. The LB core has had some serious issues as well and that concerns me because James and Akin should be long term fixtures, but something isn't working there.

[MichaelWinicki]

I don't think it is. Henry is ALWAYS giving up big plays. You don't see Champ getting out runned consistently. Burned a few times hehe

When he is healthy excuses excuses. The guy is getting primo bucks and hasn't done squat but pick a few balls off.

Offenses constantly scheme him against speed guys and he gets eaten alive.

Just watch Henry vs. Lloyd and that sums up Henry's existence here.


I think you're over-reacting quite frankly.

[MichaelWinicki]

You seem to be suggesting I want draft highly for that position or sign a high profile FA. All I'm saying is that we need to decide if we have an answer for that position in 2008.

I realize we might and I realize you can sometimes fill positions with late picks and Undrafted rooks. I see that as more of a worry than CB.

I think some people forget pre Henry at the CB position. Glenn is damn solid and I even like Reeves. My point on my post is that CB is way down the list of issues on this team and unlike most I think Adams will be at LT in 2007. I don't want to go into the 2008 season with no options at LT

I think it's easy to say that RG and FS have been abysmal at times this year. The LB core has had some serious issues as well and that concerns me because James and Akin should be long term fixtures, but something isn't working there.


I think we'll know by next preseason if McQ has a future or not. If the Cowboys don't draft an OT early or sign a FA then that will tell me they have some confidence in the kid. And that'll be good enough for me until proven otherwise.

[miamicowboy21]

Clements is going to demand around a 15-20 million dollar signing bonus. We need to concentrate on the lines, and maybe add a free agent WR.

[Tobal]

I hope the kid works out, and I don't want us just drafting a body because we have a need. That is why I wasn't upset that we didn't draft OL last yr. I didn't see anyone I wanted them to draft so I couldn't fault them.

Hopefully this draft will be rich and Olinemen, Tweeners, Sateies with tons of range and late round wR porspoects, we'll have to wait another month or so to see how it shakes out though.

[Bleu Star]

Clements should be our top priority this offseason. He is a playmaker. I would move Henry to safety and let's go...

Absolutely. :starspin

[DBoys]

I think you're over-reacting quite frankly.

We have a difference of opinion which is cool.

You should be a coach because BP keeps saying that everyone is over-reacting and because of that no changes need to be made. We have been doing the same thing all year so the over-reacting excuse is out the window. The team is not reacting ENOUGH! When you have this many weeks of the same problems it would be wise not to coin what the Dallas coaches are saying. Over-reacting sometimes creates results and shakes things up. Ever heard of the term playing scared? What do you think fear is but over-reacting to a situation.

I over-react because this team is not doing anything to alter the course of mediocrity. I over-react because I care.

It is no secret I can't stand Henry.

[McCordsville Cowboy]

Henry is a solid #2 corner. but he is getting paid like a number one..

Henry doesnt have exceptional speed but enough to get it done with an adequate pass rush. Problem is that he gets exposed with our LACK of a Pass rush.

Clements on the other hand is a better cover corner and has MUCH BETTER speed than Henry. Once someone runs with A. Henry, unless its underthrown he is burnt. He doesnt have that catch up speed.. But sould be a Pro Bowl FS if he moved back there. He WONT take a pay cut though.. Why would he??? Would you.......??

[MichaelWinicki]

We have a difference of opinion which is cool.

You should be a coach because BP keeps saying that everyone is over-reacting and because of that no changes need to be made. We have been doing the same thing all year so the over-reacting excuse is out the window. The team is not reacting ENOUGH! When you have this many weeks of the same problems it would be wise not to coin what the Dallas coaches are saying. Over-reacting sometimes creates results and shakes things up. Ever heard of the term playing scared? What do you think fear is but over-reacting to a situation.

I over-react because this team is not doing anything to alter the course of mediocrity. I over-react because I care.

It is no secret I can't stand Henry.

Mediocrity?

With a win today we'll be 10-6, since when is 10-6 mediocre? I don't remember too many 10-6 seasons over the last 10 years-- how about you?

[MichaelWinicki]

Henry is a solid #2 corner. but he is getting paid like a number one..

Henry doesnt have exceptional speed but enough to get it done with an adequate pass rush. Problem is that he gets exposed with our LACK of a Pass rush.

Clements on the other hand is a better cover corner and has MUCH BETTER speed than Henry. Once someone runs with A. Henry, unless its underthrown he is burnt. He doesnt have that catch up speed.. But sould be a Pro Bowl FS if he moved back there. He WONT take a pay cut though.. Why would he??? Would you.......??


There is no way we are signing Clement.

[DBoys]

Mediocrity?

With a win today we'll be 10-6, since when is 10-6 mediocre? I don't remember too many 10-6 seasons over the last 10 years-- how about you?

How about the first NYG game? How about both Philly games? How about NO?

Just because we have a certain record it will never cover the truth that those games revealed.

Regardless enjoy the game let's hope they made some changes for the better.

[Da Hammer]

At least 8 teams will go hard after him from what ive read and so if we want him fine but its gonna cost a hell lot of money. If he helps us win which i think he would then get him here but damn thats gonna be a lot of money tied to the secondary...

[MichaelWinicki]

At least 8 teams will go hard after him from what ive read and so if we want him fine but its gonna cost a hell lot of money. If he helps us win which i think he would then get him here but damn thats gonna be a lot of money tied to the secondary...

If we were one cb away from a SB I'd agree. But I think we have deeper issues on defense.

[LatinMind]

If we were one cb away from a SB I'd agree. But I think we have deeper issues on defense.

i agree, i can see the team going after one of the pats cb's instead asante samuel or randall gay

[BeWare94]

I was sitting here thinking about what we need to make us a better team. Henry has been looking a little stiff and more than a little slow for a CB. I know some people want to move him to FS but he is getting paid WAY to much to have him playing S. If we were to go after Clements in the offseason and sign him then our draft needs would be reduced to 1) a bonafide, playmaking DE, 2) WR and 3) FS.

What do you guys think? What should be done with Henry? Move him to FS and restructure his deal? Cut him? Let him be a highly overpaid FS? Would you be for going after Clements?

Obviously, you are all brain dead or just haven't been paying attention...It doesn't matter who you bring in here with regards to personnel, until we change the leadership (or the defensive coordinator at least) it will not matter.

We have a wealth of talent on this defense but it doesn't show because the defense is poorly concieved, coached and consequently, executed.

Another thing that you guys don't seem to get is that players talk to one another. Whether in passing in the offseason, before or after games but one thing is for sure...anyone that watches any of our games knows that our defense is BS, schemewise. (Can I say "BS", Gestappo?) That includes said defensive Free Agents. Which brings me to the point: Why is Nate Clements going to come here and get burned regularly because we can't get to the quarterback when we rush 8 defenders?