View Full Version : Please do not try and defend Romo today
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 03:43 PM
I like Romo he has been a very good QB, and todays loss was the entire teams fault. But please I am seeing in threads Romo played great and it wasnt his faut etc, I call BS
INT put Detroit on our own 28
4 fumbles 2 lost one of them giving Detroit the ball on the Dallas 13
Romo deserves plenty of blame for todays loss
BlueDemon
12-31-2006, 03:44 PM
Yep he looked slopppy but so did the OL
RCowboyFan
12-31-2006, 03:46 PM
I like Romo he has been a very good QB, and todays loss was the entire teams fault. But please I am seeing in threads Romo played great and it wasnt his faut etc, I call BS
INT put Detroit on our own 28
4 fumbles 2 lost one of them giving Detroit the ball on the Dallas 13
Romo deserves plenty of blame for todays loss
Exactly, sure he made some great plays, but his TOs killed this team at the same time. As Bad as Defense was, you don't give opposing team the ball at your or near your end zone and except the Defense to hold the opposing team. Even a good team will have trouble.
Romo killed this team with key turnovers at really bad times. And yeah, OL was bad, Defense was bad, but lets not obsolve this blame off from Romo.
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 03:46 PM
Yep he looked slopppy but so did the OL
Which I included in the everybody deserves some blame. To many people trying to say Romo played great when I watched the game and he didnt play great
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 03:47 PM
Exactly, sure he made some great plays, but his TOs killed this team at the same time. As Bad as Defense was, you don't give opposing team the ball at your or near your end zone and except the Defense to hold the opposing team. Even a good team will have trouble.
Romo killed this team with key turnovers at really bad times. And yeah, OL was bad, Defense was bad, but lets not obsolve this blame off from Romo.
:hammer: exactly what I am saying
Jimz31
12-31-2006, 03:47 PM
Romo...continually having to run around to make plays because we have an o-line that is letting fewer rushers in than we have blockers....yet the blame is on him? Short sighted to be sure.
Why were we even IN the game to begin with? Romo.
Lost it at the line on offense. Lost it in the backfield on defense.
superpunk
12-31-2006, 03:48 PM
Why were we even IN the game to begin with? Romo.
are yu talking about Detroit? Or Dallas?
burmafrd
12-31-2006, 03:48 PM
Defense first. O line second. Romo third.
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 03:49 PM
Romo...continually having to run around to make plays because we have an o-line that is letting fewer rushers in than we have blockers....yet the blame is on him? Short sighted to be sure.
Why were we even IN the game to begin with? Romo.
Lost it at the line on offense. Lost it in the backfield on defense.
Why were we behind in the first place? I mean didnt the 3 turnovers have something to do with that? Romo deserves blame today just like the others you named
Jimz31
12-31-2006, 03:50 PM
are yu talking about Detroit? Or Dallas?
Detroit was in it because they took a TD away from RW.
Detroit was in the game because they could send fewer rushers than we had o-linemen and could get pressure.
Detroit was in the game because of a faulty defensive scheme.
If Romo didn't do some of the things that he DID do, then it is a blow-out....we woulda been crushed.
dbair1967
12-31-2006, 03:50 PM
blame doesnt belong with one guy...Romo really made some dumb plays but it isnt all on him either
we could run the ball a lick...pass blocking was bad...defense is beyond horrible, and our special teams killed us save Newman's TD
it was a total team effort today...starts with the coaches and should end there...Jones has to know beyond a shadow of a doubt now what he has to do...this whole staff, including Parcells needs an overhaul
we need to find the next Jimmy Johnson, not a puppet like Campo or Gailey...not a clown like Switzer and not a has been relic like Parcells...we need a fresh start
david
He is at fault. As is every other player that took the field today. Romo did a lot of positive things. He also made some mistakes. I don't think a single player played with perfection -- though Terry Glenn came mighty close off the top of my head, as did possibly Ware.
But this isn't a hang-Romo-in-Saddam-style game where we should be pondering his replacement. He wasn't "the" reason we lost.
superpunk
12-31-2006, 03:51 PM
Detroit was in it because they took a TD away from RW.
Detroit was in the game because they could send fewer rushers than we had o-linemen and could get pressure.
Detroit was in the game because of a faulty defensive scheme.
If Romo didn't do some of the things that he DID do, then it is a blow-out....we woulda been crushed.
If he didn't turn the ball over 3 times, putting the defense in a bad way, we win in a rout.
iceberg
12-31-2006, 03:52 PM
I like Romo he has been a very good QB, and todays loss was the entire teams fault. But please I am seeing in threads Romo played great and it wasnt his faut etc, I call BS
INT put Detroit on our own 28
4 fumbles 2 lost one of them giving Detroit the ball on the Dallas 13
Romo deserves plenty of blame for todays loss
then please quit "attacking" players as if you think you've aot a neener neener ready to give out and the opportunity finally presented itself.
romo has done better than we expected for his first NOT EVEN A FULL YEAR of play.
i'm sick and tired of people pulling out a "moment" as if it will define his entire career.
we've got a legit QB now - i'd suggest finding a way to deal with it cause he ain't going anywhere.
back to your blind attacking.
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 03:53 PM
He is at fault. As is every other player that took the field today. Romo did a lot of positive things. He also made some mistakes. I don't think a single player played with perfection -- though Terry Glenn came mighty close off the top of my head, as did possibly Ware.
But this isn't a hang-Romo-in-Saddam-style game where we should be pondering his replacement. He wasn't "the" reason we lost.
Thats whaT i said :laugh2:
dback
12-31-2006, 03:53 PM
Romo wasn't stellar today, but I am glad that he was still trying to rally the team.
He has to make these mistakes sometime, it is important that he learns from them.
dbair1967
12-31-2006, 03:53 PM
If he didn't turn the ball over 3 times, putting the defense in a bad way, we win in a rout.
you dont really believe this do you?
we couldnt stop crap...it doesnt matter if the team has to go the length of the field or 10 yds...we cant stop anybody...the Lions had a scab team like roster today and came in our place and kicked our rear ends...
its pathetic
David
spindoc
12-31-2006, 03:54 PM
If he didn't turn the ball over 3 times, putting the defense in a bad way, we win in a rout.
I'm glad you are not in charge of the team. Romo was bad, but the defense was much worse. Try to be objective.
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 03:54 PM
then please quit "attacking" players as if you think you've aot a neener neener ready to give out and the opportunity finally presented itself.
romo has done better than we expected for his first NOT EVEN A FULL YEAR of play.
i'm sick and tired of people pulling out a "moment" as if it will define his entire career.
we've got a legit QB now - i'd suggest finding a way to deal with it cause he ain't going anywhere.
back to your blind attacking.
Maybe you have me mixed up with someone else because I dont attack any players on the tem, Not even TO. This thread isnt attacking anyone either. Maybe you posted in the wrong thread on accident?
CanadianCowboysFan
12-31-2006, 03:55 PM
Yep he looked slopppy but so did the OL
Bledsoe didn't get that excuse, why should Romo?
superpunk
12-31-2006, 03:55 PM
you dont really believe this do you?
we couldnt stop crap...it doesnt matter if the team has to go the length of the field or 10 yds...we cant stop anybody...the Lions had a scab team like roster today and came in our place and kicked our rear ends...
its pathetic
David
They sure didn't help.
I think it would have been funny to see "how much worse Bledsoe makes our line look" had he put those numbers up today. People's reactions are hilarious.
Jimz31
12-31-2006, 03:56 PM
Bledsoe didn't get that excuse, why should Romo?
He did, but in todays NFL you HAVE to have some mobility. He is a yesteryear QB.
fanfromvirginia
12-31-2006, 03:56 PM
I like Romo he has been a very good QB, and todays loss was the entire teams fault. But please I am seeing in threads Romo played great and it wasnt his faut etc, I call BS
INT put Detroit on our own 28
4 fumbles 2 lost one of them giving Detroit the ball on the Dallas 13
Romo deserves plenty of blame for todays loss
Romo blew more than the other culprits today. He's our man and he's gonna be a great one but he blew today.
iceberg
12-31-2006, 03:56 PM
Maybe you have me mixed up with someone else because I dont attack any players on the tem, Not even TO. This thread isnt attacking anyone either. Maybe you posted in the wrong thread on accident?
when you start off "don't you dare defend *this player* - you know for a fact someone will.
this game romo has some good points and some bad ones. but if his line would give him 1/2 the protection our defense gives the other offense, he could do a lot more than he's doing now.
yes he had a bad game but i'll defend him (as i dare) as our long term answer and NOT knee jerk around and demand nothing but victory week in and week out for my absolution.
Big Dakota
12-31-2006, 03:57 PM
There were times today i thought i was watching CHutch:banghead:
The problem is, we are putting Romo in a position where he HAS to win the game for us. I don't think he's ready for that. I thought the QB position for us and especially Romo was "game managment". He's capable of leading a comeback victory, but not every freaking week.
tyke1doe
12-31-2006, 03:57 PM
Anytime you turn the ball over in droves, you're likely going to lose.
And Romo was to blame as anyone for the loss today.
However, losing is a team effort, not an individual one.
We stop the Lions, and we're likely not throwing deep from our own territory.
Furthermore, Romo is still young. That's why I'm more patient with him.
He has grown up extremely quickly these past 10 games, and he has more growing to do. I like what I've seen given the fact we have a defense that can't stop anyone and offensive linemen who are old and stuck in the mud.
Despite today's game, he's a keeper.
superpunk
12-31-2006, 03:58 PM
Despite today's game, he's a keeper.
Amen.
CanadianCowboysFan
12-31-2006, 03:58 PM
Romo has not looked good at all this month.
Aikbach
12-31-2006, 03:58 PM
The defense is awful and Romo did them no favors by giving them short fields to defend on three separate occsaions and killing other drives with craptastic passes. This was a disappointing day for him regardless of quarterback rating especially against the Lions defense. Dreadful.
iceberg
12-31-2006, 03:59 PM
Romo has not looked good at all this month.
neither has our OL.
wonder if there's a connection.
big dog cowboy
12-31-2006, 04:00 PM
Blaming Romo makes as much sense as blaming Ware because he had only 3 sacks.
NotReally
12-31-2006, 04:01 PM
Defense first. O line second. Romo third.
Ditto, ditto, ditto!!!
iceberg
12-31-2006, 04:01 PM
Blaming Romo makes as much sense as blaming Ware because he had only 3 sacks.
people w/agendas don't see bumps in the road as growing pains, they view it as a roadmap to get a player they don't like outta here.
sad.
Yakuza Rich
12-31-2006, 04:03 PM
I like Romo he has been a very good QB, and todays loss was the entire teams fault. But please I am seeing in threads Romo played great and it wasnt his faut etc, I call BS
INT put Detroit on our own 28
4 fumbles 2 lost one of them giving Detroit the ball on the Dallas 13
Romo deserves plenty of blame for todays loss
I definitely wouldn't say that Romo played great, but I don't think he deserves too much blame for the loss. The only really bad plays were the fumble in Detroit territory in the beginning of the 3rd quarter and the INT. Even on the INT, Witten was illegally bumped and there should've been a flag. And hey, it's not like no QB's ever throw an INT in their own territory.
3 of the fumbles were due to poor pass protection and in the end, he brought more to the table than he took away. And if we can hold freaking Detroit to 30 points, we win the game.
YAKUZA
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 04:03 PM
when you start off "don't you dare defend *this player* - you know for a fact someone will.
Thank you for putting words in my mouth exactly where did you get that quote from? I actually said "Please do not try and defend Romo today"
Big Difference
And I knew people already were defending his poor performance which is why I made the thread. I even mentioned he had been a very good QB and the whole team was at fault
this game romo has some good points and some bad ones. but if his line would give him 1/2 the protection our defense gives the other offense, he could do a lot more than he's doing now.
Yet he fumbled 4 times and threw an INT and it wasnt on the line everytime was it?
yes he had a bad game but i'll defend him (as i dare) as our long term answer and NOT knee jerk around and demand nothing but victory week in and week out for my absolution.
Where did I demand victory? Hell where did I demand anything? I simply said he deserves some blame just as the rest of the team does. Ice your a good guy, but read what I actually type instead of putting words in my mouth please. I didnt attack any player ( I never do ) yet your suto instinct was to go on the offensive because I dared place any blame at all on Romo
Romo...continually having to run around to make plays because we have an o-line that is letting fewer rushers in than we have blockers....yet the blame is on him? Short sighted to be sure.
Why were we even IN the game to begin with? Romo.
Lost it at the line on offense. Lost it in the backfield on defense.
I love it. The OL was not to blame for bledsoe sucking, but it is to blame for Romo sucking.
Yes, we have a suck*** OL. But Romo has done more than his part to kill the high this team was riding on a month and a half ago.
cowboys19
12-31-2006, 04:06 PM
I love it. The OL was not to blame for bledsoe sucking, but it is to blame for Romo sucking.
Yes, we have a suck*** OL. But Romo has done more than his part to kill the high this team was riding on a month and a half ago.
and why were we on a high to begin with?
rofl owned
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 04:06 PM
people w/agendas don't see bumps in the road as growing pains, they view it as a roadmap to get a player they don't like outta here.
sad.
Wait now I have an agenda because I dared to place a piece of the blame on Romo as well as the other players? :laugh2:
I like Romo as I said in the initial post, and you could ask CBZ how comfortable I feel with romo as qb as he and i have discussed it. This is not about liking or disliking anyone
iceberg
12-31-2006, 04:07 PM
I love it. The OL was not to blame for bledsoe sucking, but it is to blame for Romo sucking.
Yes, we have a suck*** OL. But Romo has done more than his part to kill the high this team was riding on a month and a half ago.
no one has ever said the line didn't hurt bledsoe, did they?
romo did better with it but it still sucks and so does bledsoe. bitter hatred and jealousy his tail is riding the pine and will likely follow BP outta town doesn't help anyone.
ThreeSportStar80
12-31-2006, 04:08 PM
I like Romo he has been a very good QB, and todays loss was the entire teams fault. But please I am seeing in threads Romo played great and it wasnt his faut etc, I call BS
INT put Detroit on our own 28
4 fumbles 2 lost one of them giving Detroit the ball on the Dallas 13
Romo deserves plenty of blame for todays loss
Thank you for not be blind eyed and brainless, glad you and I see the truth for what it is.....
fiveandcounting
12-31-2006, 04:08 PM
I like Romo he has been a very good QB, and todays loss was the entire teams fault. But please I am seeing in threads Romo played great and it wasnt his faut etc, I call BS
INT put Detroit on our own 28
4 fumbles 2 lost one of them giving Detroit the ball on the Dallas 13
Romo deserves plenty of blame for todays loss
hell yeah he does, not just fumbles but careless fumbles
heck he is the biggest cause for the loss as far as one player
But holding the ball better will be easy to fix, I have confidence in his ability in 07
ThreeSportStar80
12-31-2006, 04:09 PM
Exactly, sure he made some great plays, but his TOs killed this team at the same time. As Bad as Defense was, you don't give opposing team the ball at your or near your end zone and except the Defense to hold the opposing team. Even a good team will have trouble.
Romo killed this team with key turnovers at really bad times. And yeah, OL was bad, Defense was bad, but lets not obsolve this blame off from Romo.
Amen! But you know people on this website don't want to the truth, kind of like on the job if you're not meeting company standards.
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 04:10 PM
hell yeah he does, not just fumbles but careless fumbles
heck he is the biggest cause for the loss as far as one player
But holding the ball better will be easy to fix, I have confidence in his ability in 07
I agree I think he will do very well next season, heck I think we can still make some noise this year
Aikbach
12-31-2006, 04:11 PM
and why were we on a high to begin with?
rofl ownedYou're getting defensive without reason, no one declared Romo the anti- but they've instead noted that where the quarterback goes so does the team.
His play has been down since the Giant game and the the whole team has looked lethargic in kind, no he doesn't play defense but this team isn't good enough to win shootouts or have their quarterback turn the ball over an average of twice a game the past month.
Romo is still raw, no one is saying to jettison him but he is not winning anyone's confidence with the last month of play and people are disappointed because they WANT him to succeed.
So take a chill pill and realize that most people are concerned about Romo because they care and you also need to realize he has not played up to snuff since New York.
Jimz31
12-31-2006, 04:11 PM
I love it. The OL was not to blame for bledsoe sucking, but it is to blame for Romo sucking.
Yes, we have a suck*** OL. But Romo has done more than his part to kill the high this team was riding on a month and a half ago.
You OBVIOUSLY can't remember SQUAT!
I have blamed the o-line for a LONG time.
Do you just come on here and post drivel without even researching the person you are replying to?
Do you think that this team would be in the playoffs without Romo? Do you think that this team wouldn't have been blown out of Romo wasn't in there?
Go back to bed.
The o-line was Bledsoe's downfall and I said it when he was replaced. But, he is a yesteryear QB....ZERO mobility. In todays NFL, you need SOME escapability!
iceberg
12-31-2006, 04:11 PM
hell yeah he does, not just fumbles but careless fumbles
heck he is the biggest cause for the loss as far as one player
But holding the ball better will be easy to fix, I have confidence in his ability in 07
is he a part of todays loss? YES! when the entire freaking team is, it's only natural players on that team are at fault.
this lesson of common sense brought to you by me.
now, scoring 31 points should be enough.
we should be able to stop 3 rookies on an OL and a 34 year old journeyman QB who doesn't have a legitimate RB anywhere on the field.
it wasn't, and we didn't.
biggest bulk of the blame goes to the D.
romo is just more "sexy" to pick on i suppose.
CanadianCowboysFan
12-31-2006, 04:11 PM
neither has our OL.
wonder if there's a connection.
That was the connection with Bledsoe ;)
cowboys19
12-31-2006, 04:12 PM
You're getting defensive without reason, no one declared Romo the anti- but they've instead noted that where the quarterback goes so does the team.
His play has been down since the Giant game and the the whole team has looked lethargic in kind, no he doesn't play defense but this team isn't good enough to win shootouts or have their quarterback turn the ball over an average of twice a game the past month.
Romo is still raw, no one is saying to jettison him but he is not winning anyone's confidence with the last month of play and people are disappointed because they WANT him to succeed.
So take a chill pill and realize that most people are concerned about Romo because they care and you also need to realize he has not played up to snuff since New York.
you need to realize, that it wasent his fault we lost, once you figure that out, you wont be so clueless
and why were we on a high to begin with?
rofl owned
"rofl owned", just like romo's play did to the cowboys in the last month.
rofl owned indeed.
Hey, im glad Romo was able to "rofl own" the defenses of Carolina, WSH, Arizona, Indianappolis, Tampa Bay. Too bad he decided to not show up against the meat of our schedule when it mattered.
Wrangler87
12-31-2006, 04:13 PM
is he a part of todays loss? YES! when the entire freaking team is, it's only natural players on that team are at fault.
this lesson of common sense brought to you by me.
now, scoring 31 points should be enough.
we should be able to stop 3 rookies on an OL and a 34 year old journeyman QB who doesn't have a legitimate RB anywhere on the field.
it wasn't, and we didn't.
biggest bulk of the blame goes to the D.
romo is just more "sexy" to pick on i suppose.
You nailed it man. We won't win another game unless a miracle turn around occurs.
iceberg
12-31-2006, 04:14 PM
you need to realize, that it wasent his fault we lost, once you figure that out, you wont be so clueless
he didn't help his cause w/the fumbles and the INT, cb19. i do think this is just a growing pain and he'll be fine in the end. it's just the instant gratification socitey is having a full force meeting right now to flog the psudeo obvious.
Wrangler87
12-31-2006, 04:14 PM
"rofl owned", just like romo's play did to the cowboys in the last month.
rofl owned indeed.
Hey, im glad Romo was able to "rofl own" the defenses of Carolina, WSH, Arizona, Indianappolis, Tampa Bay. Too bad he decided to not show up against the meat of our schedule when it mattered.
How has Henson played this last month?
Now, that is owned.
cowboys19
12-31-2006, 04:14 PM
"rofl owned", just like romo's play did to the cowboys in the last month.
rofl owned indeed.
Hey, im glad Romo was able to "rofl own" the defenses of Carolina, WSH, Arizona, Indianappolis, Tampa Bay. Too bad he decided to not show up against the meat of our schedule when it mattered.
Romo is NOT the reason we, lost once u figure that out, you wont be as retarded
You OBVIOUSLY can't remember SQUAT!
I have blamed the o-line for a LONG time.
Do you just come on here and post drivel without even researching the person you are replying to?
Do you think that this team would be in the playoffs without Romo? Do you think that this team wouldn't have been blown out of Romo wasn't in there?
Go back to bed.
The o-line was Bledsoe's downfall and I said it when he was replaced. But, he is a yesteryear QB....ZERO mobility. In todays NFL, you need SOME escapability!
Waa waaa. Bottom line, Romo hasn't performed in the last month or so and it shows in the play of our offense. Yes our line sucks but their play does not absolve your QB of blame when he coughs up the ball and makes terrible decisions.
Aikbach
12-31-2006, 04:15 PM
he didn't help his cause w/the fumbles and the INT, cb19. i do think this is just a growing pain and he'll be fine in the end. it's just the instant gratification socitey is having a full force meeting right now to flog the psudeo obvious.Actually cb19 is having difficulty imagining how someone can be pro-Romo and still critcize his play.
superpunk
12-31-2006, 04:15 PM
Romo is NOT the reason we, lost once u figure that out, you wont be as retarded
Good lord. Someone get the infants out of here. :rolleyes:
iceberg
12-31-2006, 04:15 PM
Waa waaa. Bottom line, Romo hasn't performed in the last month or so and it shows in the play of our offense. Yes our line sucks but their play does not absolve your QB of blame when he coughs up the ball and makes terrible decisions.
so why do you ignore a HUGE DEFENSIVE COLLAPSE in the last month just so you can pick on romo?
crap like this is where people get their agenda tags stapled onto them.
Romo is NOT the reason we, lost once u figure that out, you wont be as retarded
Just becuase he isn't the LONE reason we lost doesnt mean he is free from blame and/or criticism. I love this. "Criticize everyone, EXCEPT FOR THE FOOTBALL "
cowboys19
12-31-2006, 04:16 PM
Actually cb19 is having difficulty imagining how someone can be pro-Romo and still critcize his play.
actually your wrong, please stay out of this convo, we dont need more idiots
iceberg
12-31-2006, 04:16 PM
Actually cb19 is having difficulty imagining how someone can be pro-Romo and still critcize his play.
yea, that's my big issue w/cb. any critisizm to him is a jihad he must wage to defend romo's honor.
it's just as short sighted as the game by game bashers.
cowboys19
12-31-2006, 04:17 PM
Good lord. Someone get the infants out of here. :rolleyes:
rofl, stop with the retarded jokes
so why do you ignore a HUGE DEFENSIVE COLLAPSE in the last month just so you can pick on romo?
crap like this is where people get their agenda tags stapled onto them.
Look around you, pal. Everyone KNOWS the defense sucks. But Romo is getting a freaking free pass from all the Romonites because they so DESPERATELY WANT to believe that HE is the one, and can't BEAR to hear otherwise.
Wrangler87
12-31-2006, 04:18 PM
Look around you, pal. Everyone KNOWS the defense sucks. But Romo is getting a freaking free pass from all the Romonites because they so DESPERATELY WANT to believe that HE is the one, and can't BEAR to hear otherwise.
So who do you like? Why are you here?
cowboys19
12-31-2006, 04:18 PM
Look around you, pal. Everyone KNOWS the defense sucks. But Romo is getting a freaking free pass from all the Romonites because they so DESPERATELY WANT to believe that HE is the one, and can't BEAR to hear otherwise.
No i just cant stand to hear ****** like you spouting off because you have an agenda
iceberg
12-31-2006, 04:18 PM
actually your wrong, please stay out of this convo, we dont need more idiots
no he's not. : ) this is what you and i got into it for the other day. you defend his each and every move and it's not needed.
not anymore than someone attacking his each and every move. but for some reason there's always someone who feels the need to attack in such a blind manner and in turn, someone will take up the defense of a player as their mission and get just as blind.
wake up dude. he's a good qb. we're fortunate to have him, but he can and will have bad games.
Yakuza Rich
12-31-2006, 04:18 PM
I love it. The OL was not to blame for bledsoe sucking, but it is to blame for Romo sucking.
Yes, we have a suck*** OL. But Romo has done more than his part to kill the high this team was riding on a month and a half ago.
If Bledsoe was playing instead of Romo, we probably lose by at least 30 points. 3 of his fumbles (1 of which he picked up and threw for a first down) were caused by poor pass protection. He was often scrambling all day. And when Bledsoe played the running game was far more effective than it's been with Romo. Not to mention the defense was entirely better under Bledsoe.
So you've got a QB that's getting a mediocre running game, mediocre pass protection, has had plenty of dropped passes (although not today) and an atrocious defense. That usually equates to poor QB play since the QB is in a hole. Yet Romo has been inconsistent.
Bledsoe on the other hand had plenty of help, but couldn't get the job done. Romo isn't perfect, but I don't know of many QB's that would exceed with how the rest of the team is playing right now.
YAKUZA
iceberg
12-31-2006, 04:19 PM
Look around you, pal. Everyone KNOWS the defense sucks. But Romo is getting a freaking free pass from all the Romonites because they so DESPERATELY WANT to believe that HE is the one, and can't BEAR to hear otherwise.
maybe the shouting is just people telling you to shut up, not defend romo and telling you to shut up is just that, not a romo defense.
both sides of the extreme irritate the living hell out of the 90% of us in the middle.
cowboys19
12-31-2006, 04:19 PM
no he's not. : ) this is what you and i got into it for the other day. you defend his each and every move and it's not needed.
not anymore than someone attacking his each and every move. but for some reason there's always someone who feels the need to attack in such a blind manner and in turn, someone will take up the defense of a player as their mission and get just as blind.
wake up dude. he's a good qb. we're fortunate to have him, but he can and will have bad games.
i never said he wont have bad games, but today was not one of them
Wrangler87
12-31-2006, 04:20 PM
maybe the shouting is just people telling you to shut up, not defend romo and telling you to shut up is just that, not a romo defense.
both sides of the extreme irritate the living hell out of the 90% of us in the middle.
This DIAF has no life.
Why even come in here if you just want to bash Romo?
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 04:21 PM
so why do you ignore a HUGE DEFENSIVE COLLAPSE in the last month just so you can pick on romo?
crap like this is where people get their agenda tags stapled onto them.
I didnt ignore anyone I said the whole team was at fault, and the thread isnt about the last month it is about today.
You are stapling a agenda tag on a Romo fan with an honest criticism
Wrangler87
12-31-2006, 04:21 PM
i never said he wont have bad games, but today was not one of them
His game wasn't flawless, but he is the only reason we stood a chance to even tie today.
I am so glad we have him.
superpunk
12-31-2006, 04:22 PM
i never said he wont have bad games, but today was not one of them
I concur.
1 pick and 4 fumbles is freaking awesome.
iceberg
12-31-2006, 04:22 PM
I didnt ignore anyone I said the whole team was at fault, and the thread isnt about the last month it is about today.
You are stapling a agenda tag on a Romo fan with an honest criticism
maybe - but this was a response to DIAF, not you. : )
No i just cant stand to hear ****** like you spouting off because you have an agenda
My "agenda" is seeing this team win ball games. Mr. Romo has not been particularly helpful in that regard lately.
It pains me to think that all of this could have been avoided had Jerry just drafted a real QB instead of trying to find diamonds on the cheap for 6 years. Of course Romo is the best of the bunch, but he doesnt look to be the all-pro we so desperately want. My hope is that he develops into Jake Delhomme, if not we've thrown another 3 years down the tubes, likely.
bbgun
12-31-2006, 04:23 PM
yea, that's my big issue w/cb. any critisizm to him is a jihad he must wage to defend romo's honor.
it's just as short sighted as the game by game bashers.
Haven't you heard? Romo is untouchable. He's the golden child. All his errors must be magically exculpated and explained away. Holding on to the ball too long? No problem. Losing the ball twice despite not being hit? No problem. Another braindead interception? No problem. Stupid smile on his face even after bad plays? No problem.
Let me lay it out for the sheep and shills: if you're gonna praise him for the good parts of the game today (and there was certainly some of that), then you sure as hell better lambaste him for the bad. So get cracking.
cowboys19
12-31-2006, 04:24 PM
I concur.
1 pick and 4 fumbles is freaking awesome.
finally you agree with me
iceberg
12-31-2006, 04:24 PM
My "agenda" is seeing this team win ball games. Mr. Romo has not been particularly helpful in that regard lately.
It pains me to think that all of this could have been avoided had Jerry just drafted a real QB instead of trying to find diamonds on the cheap for 6 years. Of course Romo is the best of the bunch, but he doesnt look to be the all-pro we so desperately want. My hope is that he develops into Jake Delhomme, if not we've thrown another 3 years down the tubes, likely.
in the last 5 years, which QB would you have taken in the 1st round when we were picking?
whining for the sake of whining should never try to be passed off as a noble cause, whiner.
His game wasn't flawless, but he is the only reason we stood a chance to even tie today.
I am so glad we have him.
He was also a big reason we were IN the situation we were in. Without his 3, frankly, retarded turnovers we most likely aren't all sitting here typing and whining.
cowboys19
12-31-2006, 04:25 PM
My "agenda" is seeing this team win ball games. Mr. Romo has not been particularly helpful in that regard lately.
It pains me to think that all of this could have been avoided had Jerry just drafted a real QB instead of trying to find diamonds on the cheap for 6 years. Of course Romo is the best of the bunch, but he doesnt look to be the all-pro we so desperately want. My hope is that he develops into Jake Delhomme, if not we've thrown another 3 years down the tubes, likely.
we wouldnt even be in the playoffs without Romo
get off his back
bbgun
12-31-2006, 04:25 PM
I didnt ignore anyone I said the whole team was at fault, and the thread isnt about the last month it is about today.
You are stapling a agenda tag on a Romo fan with an honest criticism
I just fainted. In 2006, we agreed on something. Just in time, too.
iceberg
12-31-2006, 04:25 PM
He was also a big reason we were IN the situation we were in. Without his 3, frankly, retarded turnovers we most likely aren't all sitting here typing and whining.
and if the defense could have held at any of hte 3 times we took the lead, we'd not be having this discussion adn romo would not have had to get crazy and improvise, increasing the chances for stupid mistakes.
GimmeTheBall!
12-31-2006, 04:26 PM
Base on today's performance, TRADE OR CUT ROMO!!!
in the last 5 years, which QB would you have taken in the 1st round when we were picking?
whining for the sake of whining should never try to be passed off as a noble cause, whiner.
And what exactly are you doing? Whining. WE ARE ALL WHINING. Its what we do after we lose a game. How long have you been posting here again? You should have realized this by now....
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 04:26 PM
maybe - but this was a response to DIAF, not you. : )
fair enough ut earlier in the thread you said basically the same thing I believe directed at me. and then never replied to my last post or recanted that I was "attacking" someone I wanted out of town
bbgun
12-31-2006, 04:27 PM
The sheep wasted little time posting their "don't you dare go there" threads regarding the anointed one. That's an agenda.
iceberg
12-31-2006, 04:27 PM
And what exactly are you doing? Whining. WE ARE ALL WHINING. Its what we do after we lose a game. How long have you been posting here again? You should have realized this by now....
you gonna answer the question?
Wrangler87
12-31-2006, 04:27 PM
Base on today's performance, TRADE OR CUT ROMO!!!
There would be at least 20 teams lining up to trade for him.
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 04:28 PM
I just fainted. In 2006, we agreed on something. Just in time, too.
No man we agreed on something about 2 months ago remember I think it was that a Eagles fan was an idiot or something
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 04:29 PM
Base on today's performance, TRADE OR CUT ROMO!!!
now thats ridiculous
you gonna answer the question?
To what? What QB would I have drafted? I would have made a freaking move and GOTTEN a QB prospect. Trade up in the draft, whatever. Make it so. Stop trying to find all-pros from the garbage heap.
I'm sorry you can't take criticism of your Football Lord God Almighty.
bbgun
12-31-2006, 04:30 PM
No man we agreed on something about 2 months ago remember I think it was that a Eagles fan was an idiot or something
But that was too easy. It's like hating Munchis.
Yakuza Rich
12-31-2006, 04:31 PM
Haven't you heard? Romo is untouchable.
Nobody is saying that or implying that. What people are saying is that he was one of the few reasons why we were in the game and given how bad the O-Line played, many of us highly doubt there were QB's that would've done all that better.
Holding on to the ball too long? No problem.
Explain to us when he did that? In the red zone at the end of the game when Detroit new Dallas had to pass the ball?
Give me a break.
Losing the ball twice despite not being hit? No problem.
Both caused by awful pass protection. If the pass protection was *decent* we wouldn't have that problem in the first place.
Another braindead interception? No problem. Stupid smile on his face even after bad plays? No problem.
Yes, even though the refs missed an illegal chuck by Detroit on Witten, the guy that he was throwing the ball to. And god forbid a QB throws 1 INT in a game despite putting up a 110 QB rating while running for his life and having no running game. I don't know what people are thinking. WORST....QB....EVER.
Let me lay it out for the sheep and shills: if you're gonna praise him for the good parts of the game today (and there was certainly some of that), then you sure as hell better lambaste him for the bad. So get cracking.
People are critical of his bad parts of the game. But the good outweighed the bad and he didn't have much help for it. I'm not expecting the O-Line to play like the '93 Cowboys O-Line, but when he got *decent* protection, he made good plays. But too many times he was scrambling for his life and overall he put up some good numbers. I don't think 90% of the starting QB's would've played that well with the pass protection, running game, and defense Dallas had today. We made John Kitna look like Johnny Unitas today and Corey Redding look like Reggie White.
YAKUZA
Wrangler87
12-31-2006, 04:31 PM
To what? What QB would I have drafted? I would have made a freaking move and GOTTEN a QB prospect. Trade up in the draft, whatever. Make it so. Stop trying to find all-pros from the garbage heap.
I'm sorry you can't take criticism of your Football Lord God Almighty.
Who, Alex Smith?
Aaron Rodgers?
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 04:32 PM
But that was too easy. It's like hating Munchis.
true enough, hating munchis is like hating a disease is just comes natural
cowboys19
12-31-2006, 04:32 PM
its obvious bbgun hates romo,
stupid smile on his face?
give me a break
panchucko
12-31-2006, 04:33 PM
I didn't read the whole thread, but has his hands been talked about?
Does he have small hands? He seems to have a hard time holding on to the ball.
I also wonder about the balls that fly on him.
Oh well. Tournament starts next week, new season..
Rampage
12-31-2006, 04:33 PM
romo is not the guy
cowboys19
12-31-2006, 04:34 PM
romo is not the guy
not the guy to be what? your maid?
bbgun
12-31-2006, 04:39 PM
Nobody is saying that or implying that. What people are saying is that he was one of the few reasons why we were in the game and given how bad the O-Line played, many of us highly doubt there were QB's that would've done all that better.
Baloney. Did I imagine this "lay off Romo" thread?
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76327
That's the last thing someone should be concerned about after a loss like this one. And no, he isn't being panned nearly enough for his screwups. You don't get to lose the ball just because you're scrambling, kay? Take the sack and hold on to the damn ball. Period.
LaTunaNostra
12-31-2006, 04:40 PM
No bbgun does not 'hate' Romo.
How absurd.
As for Tony, he's quick to improve on his mistakes ....I doubt we see him fumbling next week.
GimmeTheBall!
12-31-2006, 04:40 PM
Hey, everbody has a bad day.
Ask them O linemen who let the intruders through to harass Romo.
Oh, geez, I've just made an excuse for Romo.
Well, let's think positively as we go on to the future!!!!
Rampage
12-31-2006, 04:41 PM
not the guy to be what? your maid?
he's not the guy to be qb for the cowboys
cowboys19
12-31-2006, 04:41 PM
Baloney. Did I imagine this "lay off Romo" thread?
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76327
That's the last thing someone should be concerned about after a loss like this one. You don't get to lose the ball just because you're scrambling, kay? Tack the sack and hold on to the damn ball. Period.
"And no, he isn't being panned nearly enough for his screwups."
are you that out of touch? your are wrong on so many levels
Wrangler87
12-31-2006, 04:42 PM
romo is not the guy
I'll finish that for you:
Romo is not the guy............who gave up 39 points to the worst team in the NFL.
There you go. You can thank me later.
cowboys19
12-31-2006, 04:42 PM
he's not the guy to be qb for the cowboys
stop dreaming, i know you want it to happen, but it wont
Tripod
12-31-2006, 04:42 PM
[
Bledsoe on the other hand had plenty of help, but couldn't get the job done. Romo isn't perfect, but I don't know of many QB's that would exceed with how the rest of the team is playing right now.
YAKUZA[/quote]
Bledsoe had plenty of help? Huh? It's the same team this year for both of them. Bledsoe 3 wins 2.5 losses, Romo 6 wins 4.5 losses.
Drops? Bledsoe had 9 passes dropped by halftime vs Tennesee verified by Parcells and the announcers.
I doubt you're talking about last year. Bledsoe had no Flozell or JuJones for half a year and no guy named Terrell Owens for the whole year. But for 3 field goals (2 chip shots) Bledsoe was a 12-4 quarterback. His Cowboys of '05
also had a 9-7 record and the strength of schedule was at least 10 notches tougher.
Bledsoe's legacy here gets worse as the Romo hype rolls on. The spin is way out of whack and the blurred vision exists even after today. Amazing.
cowboys19
12-31-2006, 04:43 PM
why dont you marry Bledsoe, for chirst sake,
sickining
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 04:45 PM
why dont you marry Bledsoe, for chirst sake,
sickining
Do me a favor please and leave my thread and go act childish in some other thread so we can discuss things like adults here. Thanks
cowboys19
12-31-2006, 04:46 PM
Do me a favor please and leave my thread and go act childish in some other thread so we can discuss things like adults here. Thanks
why dont you go tell that to all the other retards on this thread
thank you
Rampage
12-31-2006, 04:46 PM
stop dreaming, i know you want it to happen, but it wont
he can't hold onto a football and he has a weak arm
Tripod
12-31-2006, 04:47 PM
why dont you marry Bledsoe, for chirst sake,
sickining
19. That's the age you'll be in 6 years right?
iceberg
12-31-2006, 04:47 PM
To what? What QB would I have drafted? I would have made a freaking move and GOTTEN a QB prospect. Trade up in the draft, whatever. Make it so. Stop trying to find all-pros from the garbage heap.
I'm sorry you can't take criticism of your Football Lord God Almighty.
i can - i just think the blind bashing is stupid done by stupid people.
then when you ask then what they would do, they give you some lame excuse of drafting a prospect but no name attached to it - this way you can stay blameless and right in your actions, even though you never said what you'd do.
good move, chief.
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 04:47 PM
why dont you go tell that to all the other retards on this thread
thank you
you do realize they are going to ban you right? your constant namecalling is against the rules, which is why your posts are being deleted. I doubt you finish today on this forum
cowboys19
12-31-2006, 04:47 PM
19. That's the age you'll be in 6 years right?
and how old are you 67?
hey gramps
CowboyBlog
12-31-2006, 04:48 PM
[
Bledsoe on the other hand had plenty of help, but couldn't get the job done. Romo isn't perfect, but I don't know of many QB's that would exceed with how the rest of the team is playing right now.
YAKUZA
Bledsoe had plenty of help? Huh? It's the same team this year for both of them. Bledsoe 3 wins 2.5 losses, Romo 6 wins 4.5 losses.
Drops? Bledsoe had 9 passes dropped by halftime vs Tennesee verified by Parcells and the announcers.
I doubt you're talking about last year. Bledsoe had no Flozell or JuJones for half a year and no guy named Terrell Owens for the whole year. But for 3 field goals (2 chip shots) Bledsoe was a 12-4 quarterback. His Cowboys of '05
also had a 9-7 record and the strength of schedule was at least 10 notches tougher.
Bledsoe's legacy here gets worse as the Romo hype rolls on. The spin is way out of whack and the blurred vision exists even after today. Amazing.[/quote]
Thank you for confirming what I've been telling these kids since halftime of the Giants game.
We end up with the same record as last year with alot more talent on the field. Our schedule this year was alot weaker also.
Romo is the only spot where got worse this year.
Bledsoe wasn't blowing out the winning teams like he was the bad teams, but Romo isn't even winning against the bad teams.
Guess what else, now we have to go on the road in the playoffs without our veteran QB. All the Romo fans keep saying, "Well this is just his first year."
My point exactly, why limp into the playoffs with an inexperienced guy who may or may not belong in the NFL with a superbowl veteran on the sideline.
This, my friends, is why parcells will be fired next monday.
cowboys19
12-31-2006, 04:48 PM
you do realize they are going to ban you right? your constant namecalling is against the rules, which is why your posts are being deleted. I doubt you finish today on this forum
i bet you need to look in the mirror, because i ahve done nothing wrong, its not my fault people are having agendas
Aikbach
12-31-2006, 04:48 PM
and how old are you 67?
hey grampsBe respectful, you're proving his point.
cowboys19
12-31-2006, 04:49 PM
19. That's the age you'll be in 6 years right?
oh wait your 57, damn your an old fart
Wrangler87
12-31-2006, 04:49 PM
you do realize they are going to ban you right? your constant namecalling is against the rules, which is why your posts are being deleted. I doubt you finish today on this forum
Got my vote to ban him.
Retrd is not a poper term to use to belittle someone.
cowboys19
12-31-2006, 04:49 PM
Be respectful, you're proving his point.
not really, its sad he is this old and he is arguing with a guy so much younger than him, he is so mature
rofl
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 04:51 PM
i bet you need to look in the mirror, because i ahve done nothing wrong, its not my fault people are having agendas
go read the rules of the forum
theogt
12-31-2006, 04:51 PM
Don't worry, the OL decided not to defend Romo either today.
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 04:52 PM
Now that he is gone we can go back to a civil discussion, thanks mods
WV Cowboy
12-31-2006, 04:55 PM
We fell behind early, .. but we had regained the lead and the momentum.
Then we stopped them on offense, and had a chance to extend the lead before halftime and we would have gotten the ball to start the second half.
That's when Newman dropped the punt and gave the momentum back to the Lions.
Instead of going in at the half with a lead of 1, 4, or 8 we go in down 6.
That was a killer.
If we don't give them that score, we are kicking a FG at the end.
But losing the momentum was the worst thing.
Even with all of the problems Romo had, he drove us 99 yds for a TD late in the 4th qtr in what should have been the game-winning drive.
If the defense holds at that point we may have been able to run out the clock with Barber.
panchucko
12-31-2006, 04:59 PM
Don't worry, the OL decided not to defend Romo either today.
Maybe the OL sucks, they can't defend anyone.
I know when Romo came in he was a spark, right now if our D does't get fixed it doesn't matter who is at QB, (excecpt maybe Troy and Roger) they won't be able to lead us to the promised land.
Cochese
12-31-2006, 05:03 PM
He gets no help, at all. I can defend him when the runningbacks arent doing a damned thing, the defense is getting murdered by John Friggin Kitna. Expecting your first year starter be your sole provider of offense is suicide.
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 05:04 PM
He gets no help, at all. I can defend him when the runningbacks arent doing a damned thing, the defense is getting murdered by John Friggin Kitna. Expecting your first year starter be your sole provider of offense is suicide.
So you can defend 4 fumbles and 1 INT and say that he had nothing to do with todays loss? He is blame free in your eyes?
Cochese
12-31-2006, 05:06 PM
So you can defend 4 fumbles and 1 INT and say that he had nothing to do with todays loss? He is blame free in your eyes?
Bad stuff happens when your QB is 11 yards behind your leading rusher. No offensive line help, no help from your defense, nothing. Today was Tony Romo vs the Detroit Lions, his teammates diddnt come to play.
iceberg
12-31-2006, 05:10 PM
oh wait your 57, damn your an old fart
days are numbered dude. you simply can't run around in here all angry cussing people out who don't agree with you.
and you can't say some level headed people didn't warn you.
iceberg
12-31-2006, 05:11 PM
i bet you need to look in the mirror, because i ahve done nothing wrong, its not my fault people are having agendas
old farts, retards, attacking others opinions...
and you've got quite the "defend romo's honor" agenda going on yourself, dude.
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 05:11 PM
Bad stuff happens when your QB is 11 yards behind your leading rusher. No offensive line help, no help from your defense, nothing. Today was Tony Romo vs the Detroit Lions, his teammates diddnt come to play.
So all 4 fumbles and the INt were all someone elses fault? can you explain how?
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 05:11 PM
days are numbered dude. you simply can't run around in here all angry cussing people out who don't agree with you.
and you can't say some level headed people didn't warn you.
He was already banned
bbgun
12-31-2006, 05:12 PM
days are numbered dude. you simply can't run around in here all angry cussing people out who don't agree with you.
and you can't say some level headed people didn't warn you.
Ironically, he posted a thread last night apologizing for personal attacks.
theogt
12-31-2006, 05:13 PM
So all 4 fumbles and the INt were all someone elses fault? can you explain how?Keep screaming "four fumbles." Keep doing it.
One arguably wasn't a fumble. Another was recovered and Tony made an incredible play. A third was recoverd by the offense (no harm, no foul). At best you can fault him for one fumble that cost the team points.
His one bad fumble cost the team 3 points.
bbgun
12-31-2006, 05:13 PM
So all 4 fumbles and the INt were all someone elses fault? can you explain how?
Apparently, Tony is a victim of circumstance. Just like Roy is a "victim" of a bad pass rush, or so the story goes.
Yakuza Rich
12-31-2006, 05:14 PM
Drops? Bledsoe had 9 passes dropped by halftime vs Tennesee verified by Parcells and the announcers.
That was the Washington game.
I doubt you're talking about last year. Bledsoe had no Flozell or JuJones for half a year and no guy named Terrell Owens for the whole year. But for 3 field goals (2 chip shots) Bledsoe was a 12-4 quarterback. His Cowboys of '05
also had a 9-7 record and the strength of schedule was at least 10 notches tougher.
I'm talking about this year.
The defense was far better under Bledsoe this year.
The running game was far better under Bledsoe this year.
Even if you want to say that the pass protection was equally as bad under Bledsoe as it was Romo, Romo had far less to work with this year than Bledsoe did this season. And last year's defense played far better than this year's defense under Romo. Plus, Romo had 14 drops in the 2nd Giants, Saints, Falcons, and 2nd Eagles game.
Bledsoe's legacy here gets worse as the Romo hype rolls on. The spin is way out of whack and the blurred vision exists even after today. Amazing.
So Bledsoe was great this season?
I don't get your point. If Bledsoe played today instead of Romo, we probably lose by 30 points.
YAKUZA
Cochese
12-31-2006, 05:17 PM
So you can defend 4 fumbles and 1 INT and say that he had nothing to do with todays loss? He is blame free in your eyes?
Romo was a yard short of a potential game tying TD. I dont know what you are on, but he kept us in it until the end with no running game, a bad offensive line and a defense thats spending the night in the burn unit.
Yards from the QB spot- 337
Yards from everyone else- 42.
Thats not going to win football games.
MichaelWinicki
12-31-2006, 05:17 PM
So all 4 fumbles and the INt were all someone elses fault? can you explain how?
BDF I quite often agree with you on a variety of topics... AND I agree that Romo was sloppy... Way, way too sloppy.
And he deserves part of the blame but it was a total team collapse.
This team has looked like crap for the last month.
I do expect Romo to improve. I think he'll give us a heck of season next year.
I wish I could be as confident in the defense.
Yakuza Rich
12-31-2006, 05:18 PM
Apparently, Tony is a victim of circumstance. Just like Roy is a "victim" of a bad pass rush, or so the story goes.
I'd just like to see your list of the plethora of QB's that would perform much better than Romo did today with lousy pass protection, 58 rushing yards on 21 carries, and a defense that made the Lions look like the Greatest Show on Turf.
The issue isn't Romo and he certainly didn't lose the game for us. Give me average defensive play, running game, and pass protection and Romo plays a whale of a game. Give me poor defensive play, running game, and pass protection and you'll be lucky to see many QB's that are able to keep you in the game like Romo did. But I guess you're supposed to just hold onto the ball and take a sack, even if it's in the end zone.
Good grief.
YAKUZA
Cochese
12-31-2006, 05:18 PM
I'd just like to see your list of the plethora of QB's that would perform much better than Romo did today with lousy pass protection, 58 rushing yards on 21 carries, and a defense that made the Lions look like the Greatest Show on Turf.
The issue isn't Romo and he certainly didn't lose the game for us. Give me average defensive play, running game, and pass protection and Romo plays a whale of a game. Give me poor defensive play, running game, and pass protection and you'll be lucky to see many QB's that are able to keep you in the game like Romo did. But I guess you're supposed to just hold onto the ball and take a sack, even if it's in the end zone.
Good grief.
YAKUZA
And 16 of those were from Romo himself.
Yakuza Rich
12-31-2006, 05:19 PM
Romo was a yard short of a potential game tying TD. I dont know what you are on, but he kept us in it until the end with no running game, a bad offensive line and a defense thats spending the night in the burn unit.
Yards from the QB spot- 337
Yards from everyone else- 42.
Thats not going to win football games.
Come on now, Roethlisberger, Brady and Peyton Manning are notorious for having great games every time even when they get lousy pass protection, running game and a terrible defense. Just hold onto the ball and take the sack, you'll be GREAT!
YAKUZA
MichaelWinicki
12-31-2006, 05:20 PM
That was the Washington game.
I'm talking about this year.
The defense was far better under Bledsoe this year.
The running game was far better under Bledsoe this year.
Even if you want to say that the pass protection was equally as bad under Bledsoe as it was Romo, Romo had far less to work with this year than Bledsoe did this season. And last year's defense played far better than this year's defense under Romo. Plus, Romo had 14 drops in the 2nd Giants, Saints, Falcons, and 2nd Eagles game.
So Bledsoe was great this season?
I don't get your point. If Bledsoe played today instead of Romo, we probably lose by 30 points.
YAKUZA
Correct.
I honestly don't believe the amount of Bledsoe man-love on this board. It's like a cockroach you just can't kill it.
Thank God it will end this offseason.
Yakuza Rich
12-31-2006, 05:20 PM
And 16 of those were from Romo himself.
Yeah, but he was holding onto the ball too long...or something like that.
YAKUZA
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 05:21 PM
Keep screaming "four fumbles." Keep doing it.
One arguably wasn't a fumble. Another was recovered and Tony made an incredible play. A third was recoverd by the offense (no harm, no foul). At best you can fault him for one fumble that cost the team points.
His one bad fumble cost the team 3 points.
I say 4 fumbles because he fumbled 4 times
1 fumble on Lions 8 think that cost us points?
1 fumble gave Lions the ball on our 13
INT gave them the ball on our 28 yard line
You think maybe that cost some points
Thats 13 points minimum off Romo's mistakes
koolaid
12-31-2006, 05:22 PM
you can't defend tony, he lost us the game
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 05:23 PM
BDF I quite often agree with you on a variety of topics... AND I agree that Romo was sloppy... Way, way too sloppy.
And he deserves part of the blame but it was a total team collapse.
This team has looked like crap for the last month.
I do expect Romo to improve. I think he'll give us a heck of season next year.
I wish I could be as confident in the defense.
Well this post shows me you agree with me now too, because I am blaming everyone Romo included :)
My whole thing was about people giving him NO blame when he clearly deserves some blame
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 05:23 PM
Romo was a yard short of a potential game tying TD. I dont know what you are on, but he kept us in it until the end with no running game, a bad offensive line and a defense thats spending the night in the burn unit.
Yards from the QB spot- 337
Yards from everyone else- 42.
Thats not going to win football games.
Neither is 3 turnovers from your QB costing a minimum of a 13 point swing
Everyone was to blame Romo included
bbgun
12-31-2006, 05:24 PM
The homers want to pay lip service to his mistakes and quickly move on to the passing yards, as if that means anything after a day like today.
WoodysGirl
12-31-2006, 05:25 PM
Correct.
I honestly don't believe the amount of Bledsoe man-love on this board. It's like a cockroach you just can't kill it.
Thank God it will end this offseason.
Not necessarily, it took two years for the majority of QC luv to die. I'm actually surprised at how fast the Henson love faded.
Fans fall in and out love with players all the time. Just takes awhile to get past the disappointment.
Alexander
12-31-2006, 05:26 PM
BDF I quite often agree with you on a variety of topics... AND I agree that Romo was sloppy... Way, way too sloppy.
And he deserves part of the blame but it was a total team collapse.
This team has looked like crap for the last month.
I do expect Romo to improve. I think he'll give us a heck of season next year.
I wish I could be as confident in the defense.
That is the key right there.
I have hope Romo can learn.
This defense was much worse and has repeated the same foolish mistakes for weeks.
Tripod
12-31-2006, 05:27 PM
That was the Washington game.
I'm talking about this year.
The defense was far better under Bledsoe this year.
The running game was far better under Bledsoe this year.
Even if you want to say that the pass protection was equally as bad under Bledsoe as it was Romo, Romo had far less to work with this year than Bledsoe did this season. And last year's defense played far better than this year's defense under Romo. Plus, Romo had 14 drops in the 2nd Giants, Saints, Falcons, and 2nd Eagles game.
So Bledsoe was great this season?
I don't get your point. If Bledsoe played today instead of Romo, we probably lose by 30 points.
YAKUZA
It was the Tennesee game.
BrAinPaiNt
12-31-2006, 05:28 PM
That is the key right there.
I have hope Romo can learn.
This defense was much worse and has repeated the same foolish mistakes for weeks.
Yep.
When you put a guy just starting his first year in the league in a position where he feels he has to take the team on his shoulders in order to win, because the team as a whole is playing bad....than you are already in a losing situation.
With that said, Tony needs to realize that he should not try to put the whole team on his shoulders, when they don't feel like playing with heart to start with.
MichaelWinicki
12-31-2006, 05:29 PM
That is the key right there.
I have hope Romo can learn.
This defense was much worse and has repeated the same foolish mistakes for weeks.
This defense is just indescribable at this point... Who's to blame?
I guess everyone.
WV Cowboy
12-31-2006, 05:30 PM
Come on now, Roethlisberger, Brady and Peyton Manning are notorious for having great games every time even when they get lousy pass protection, running game and a terrible defense. Just hold onto the ball and take the sack, you'll be GREAT!
YAKUZA
Yakuza, .. never never never ever mention Roethlisbergers name in the same sentence with Brady or Manning again. :laugh2: :laugh2:
Just kidding, but seriously, he is not, has never been, nor will he ever be as good as either Brady or Manning. :D
MichaelWinicki
12-31-2006, 05:32 PM
Yep.
When you put a guy just starting his first year in the league in a position where he feels he has to take the team on his shoulders in order to win, because the team as a whole is playing bad....than you are already in a losing situation.
With that said, Tony needs to realize that he should not try to put the whole team on his shoulders, when they don't feel like playing with heart to start with.
Every game (as of late) has Romo starting off in the hole... I'm sure that is wearing on him in that he has to score 30-some points in order to even have a chance. If a team has 12 possessions a game then Romo needs to put up points on 1/2 of those-- that's a hellofa burden to put on any QB-- But a first year starter? OUCH!
theogt
12-31-2006, 05:32 PM
I say 4 fumbles because he fumbled 4 times
1 fumble on Lions 8 think that cost us points?
1 fumble gave Lions the ball on our 13
INT gave them the ball on our 28 yard line
You think maybe that cost some points
Thats 13 points minimum off Romo's mistakesRead the other thread. The fumbles were a net positive for the team.
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1276052&postcount=88
iceberg
12-31-2006, 05:32 PM
He was already banned
i missed the last banning of the year???? but i had my marshmellows out!!!
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 05:34 PM
Read the other thread. The fumbles were a net positive for the team.
Sorry Ogt I do not need to read any thread that is going to attempt to say giving the ball away on the Lions 8, and then again on the Dallas 13 are "positive"
Those 3 turnovers were at the minimum a 13 point swing
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 05:34 PM
i missed the last banning of the year???? but i had my marshmellows out!!!
Heh see you should have stuck around, I am making smores over his internet carcus right now
BrAinPaiNt
12-31-2006, 05:35 PM
Every game (as of late) has Romo starting off in the hole... I'm sure that is wearing on him in that he has to score 30-some points in order to even have a chance. If a team has 12 possessions a game then Romo needs to put up points on 1/2 of those-- that's a hellofa burden to put on any QB-- But a first year starter? OUCH!
Yep.
However with all of that said, he needs to realize not to make some of the bonehead plays.
And let's make no mistakes there have been some bonehead plays he has made that has been lucky enough to turn into positive plays for the boys. Still they were bonehead mistakes of him trying to do too much.
theogt
12-31-2006, 05:36 PM
Yep.
However with all of that said, he needs to realize not to make some of the bonehead plays.
And let's make no mistakes there have been some bonehead plays he has made that has been lucky enough to turn into positive plays for the boys. Still they were bonehead mistakes of him trying to do too much.You call it luck. I call it moxie. :D
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 05:36 PM
Yep.
However with all of that said, he needs to realize not to make some of the bonehead plays.
And let's make no mistakes there have been some bonehead plays he has made that has been lucky enough to turn into positive plays for the boys. Still they were bonehead mistakes of him trying to do too much.
heh u love saying Bone
BrAinPaiNt
12-31-2006, 05:37 PM
heh u love saying Bone
:laugh2: Well with the play of the boys lately, that is about the only time the word bone comes up.:eek:
nobody on this team is playing well but I still like Romo ability to create plays when offensive line protection breaks down. I will say this again....you give Romo the eagles offensive line and he is a top 5 QB for next 10 years.
Beast_from_East
12-31-2006, 05:38 PM
I like Romo he has been a very good QB, and todays loss was the entire teams fault. But please I am seeing in threads Romo played great and it wasnt his faut etc, I call BS
INT put Detroit on our own 28
4 fumbles 2 lost one of them giving Detroit the ball on the Dallas 13
Romo deserves plenty of blame for todays loss
I will defend Romo.......maybe the reason he was fumbling was because he was getting hit was because HE HAD TO RUN FOR HIS LIFE BACK THERE!!!
Romo was the only reason we were in this game, your boy Bledsoe would have been dropped in the zone for a safety. The defense gave up 40 freaking points to the lowly Lions and you are calling out the QB???
Do you guys even actually watch the game before yall post.....jeez.:mad:
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 05:39 PM
:laugh2: Well with the play of the boys lately, that is about the only time the word bone comes up.:eek:
:laugh2:
iceberg
12-31-2006, 05:39 PM
Yep.
However with all of that said, he needs to realize not to make some of the bonehead plays.
And let's make no mistakes there have been some bonehead plays he has made that has been lucky enough to turn into positive plays for the boys. Still they were bonehead mistakes of him trying to do too much.
he's defiantely made some boneheaded plays. it comes from never playing in the NFL before and not even having 1 year under his belt.
i think he is trying too hard - so i agree there. and well, with the rest of it. : )
he'll get better. he will. he'll have his good days people proclaim him a saviour and he'll have his bad days people come out and cry I TOLD YOU SO.
all qb's do, i suppose.
it's just frustrating when a game is freshly over and obviously painful, the vocal have to come out and scream for someone's head while the calmer voices have to wade through it all.
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 05:42 PM
I will defend Romo.......maybe the reason he was fumbling was because he was getting hit was because HE HAD TO RUN FOR HIS LIFE BACK THERE!!!
The fumble on the Lions 8 was because he held the ball to long
His fumble on the 13 he wasnt hit he dropped the ball
Romo was the only reason we were in this game, your boy Bledsoe would have been dropped in the zone for a safety.
My boy Bledsoe? Where did I mention him? I want Romo to start, but I want him to make less mistakes
The defense gave up 40 freaking points to the lowly Lions and you are calling out the QB???
I said everyone was at fault and that includes the QB
Do you guys even actually watch the game before yall post.....jeez.:mad:
Yes I did, and I know Romo played poor
MichaelWinicki
12-31-2006, 05:45 PM
The fumble on the Lions 8 was because he held the ball to long
His fumble on the 13 he wasnt hit he dropped the ball
My boy Bledsoe? Where did I mention him? I want Romo to start, but I want him to make less mistakes
I said everyone was at fault and that includes the QB
Yes I did, and I know Romo played poor
Bledsoe lover. :D
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 05:51 PM
Bledsoe lover. :D
Dont make me tell people about the lifesize bledsoe poster on your wall, even better I will tell them what you do with it at night
BigDFan5
12-31-2006, 06:09 PM
Dont make me tell people about the lifesize bledsoe poster on your wall, even better I will tell them what you do with it at night
I knew that would quiet you down :laugh1:
MichaelWinicki
12-31-2006, 06:24 PM
Dont make me tell people about the lifesize bledsoe poster on your wall, even better I will tell them what you do with it at night
Bastid. :)
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