Brett Favre is shameless

[rcaldw]

This guy's act is shameless. How many farewell tributes will you allow? All it takes is for the guy to be honest about his intentions. He is coming back next year, and he knows it. And if you want to say he really doesn't know, then if you aren't a media monger you don't do all your little interview inserts that run all game long. We went through all this last year. Will we have to next year too? How many times can a guy get retirement coverage before he actually retires?

And John Madden has to be the biggest fan of a single NFL player in NFL history. Man does he love Brett Favre.

[Cochese]

Seriously, Farve throws one in the dirt, they talk about his wife or some other irrelevant crap, Farve completes a pass, they show how right his technique superior to Rex piece of Crapman. I couldnt stand it.

Im going to throw a party when he retires.

[rcaldw]

Goodnight, now they carry him off the field. For what? Because he finished another regular season where the Packers miss the playoffs?

He's taking all the hugs, all the pats on the back.

If he retires, fine. If he doesn't, I'll say it again, it's shameless grandstanding.

[AbeBeta]

Whatever. HOF QBs get serious slack. He's earned it. One of the greatest QBs you'll ever see. 8 pro bowls, #1 all time completions, #2 in yards and TDs. He's a great player. Shut up and give him a bit of respect.

[Cochese]

Whatever. HOF QBs get serious slack. He's earned it. One of the greatest QBs you'll ever see. 8 pro bowls, #1 all time completions, #2 in yards and TDs. He's a great player. Shut up and give him a bit of respect.


How many INT"s has he thrown in the playoffs?

[rcaldw]

Whatever. HOF QBs get serious slack. He's earned it. One of the greatest QBs you'll ever see. 8 pro bowls, #1 all time completions, #2 in yards and TDs. He's a great player. Shut up and give him a bit of respect.

I don't care if your Johnny Unitas (and Favre isn't, he isn't even an Aikman), you don't allow them to throw you a retirement party, complete with tributes, year after year. If he comes back next year, this will be two straight seasons where he has allowed retirement send offs while he continues to play this game.

And, btw, don't forget to add to your stat list, that he is 4 interceptions away from being the NFL's all time leader in that category too.

He's a grandstander.

[TexasAce]

I expect another worthless "press conference" where he announces he still hasn't made a decision yet just like he's done the last 2 years.

What a loser.

[theebs]

I love favre. He has been good for the nfl. I will miss him.

I felt the same way when montana, marino, kelly and elway and of course aikman retired.

He is a good guy and really is everything you could want in an athlete.

I dont find his act tiresome at all. It is a tough decision, there is no going back.

[rcaldw]

I love favre. He has been good for the nfl. I will miss him.

I felt the same way when montana, marino, kelly and elway and of course aikman retired.

He is a good guy and really is everything you could want in an athlete.

I dont find his act tiresome at all. It is a tough decision, there is no going back.

I could go with you on this, if all the firestorm was produced by others while he didn't contribute to it. But did you watch the end of last year? Basically takes a victory lap around Lambeau. This year is carried off the field by a teammate.

Who does all those interviews that keep getting run throughout the final games?

Do you do this year after year?

That is my beef with him. He fuels this stuff. Last year was an absolute joke. Called a press conference to say he was undecided, and to announce some charity event.

After crying with Andrea Kramer I hope he has a conscience and quits. If he comes back again, then PLEASE don't do some tribute next year too.

[Bleu Star]

This guy's act is shameless. How many farewell tributes will you allow? All it takes is for the guy to be honest about his intentions. He is coming back next year, and he knows it. And if you want to say he really doesn't know, then if you aren't a media monger you don't do all your little interview inserts that run all game long. We went through all this last year. Will we have to next year too? How many times can a guy get retirement coverage before he actually retires?

And John Madden has to be the biggest fan of a single NFL player in NFL history. Man does he love Brett Favre.

It's actually quite funny. I guess Brett likes all the attention so he will take the symbolic carry on the backs of his fellow players for the next couple of year or so until he really retires...zzz

[rcaldw]

It's actually quite funny. I guess Brett likes all the attention so he will take the symbolic carry on the backs of his fellow players for the next couple of year or so until he really retires...zzz

Exactly. I would think it would be embarrassing for him at some point, but if he comes back next year, I guess it isn't.

[Hostile]

I love favre. He has been good for the nfl. I will miss him.

I felt the same way when montana, marino, kelly and elway and of course aikman retired.

He is a good guy and really is everything you could want in an athlete.

I dont find his act tiresome at all. It is a tough decision, there is no going back.Echo this.

[rcaldw]

Echo this.

Hos, will you feel this way if he plays again next year? If we are "hailing" Favre at the end of next season too, while he says he needs a couple of weeks to give us an answer?

I don't debate that Favre is a hall of famer, and has been enjoyable to watch. My question is what kind of player keeps accepting retirement "gifts" year after year?

If he retires this year, then my complaint is empty. I can see a guy being confused once, going through this twice. But if he comes back again next year? Man.

[WarC]

I'm a Cowboys fan, but Brett Favre is every ounce the QB that Aikman was.

One of the top QB's of all time.

It will be a real shame when he leaves. The last of an era. A little bit of the 90's Cowboys and the Triplets will retire with Favre when he goes. I hold that Favre and those Packers in the same light as those Cowboys teams.

[Hostile]

Hos, will you feel this way if he plays again next year? If we are "hailing" Favre at the end of next season too, while he says he needs a couple of weeks to give us an answer?

I don't debate that Favre is a hall of famer, and has been enjoyable to watch. My question is what kind of player keeps accepting retirement "gifts" year after year?

If he retires this year, then my complaint is empty. I can see a guy being confused once, going through this twice. But if he comes back again next year? Man.I hope he does come back personally.

I don't get wrapped up in the superficial stuff about should he stay or should he go. The guy can play and he's a joy to watch. I will always admire the way he approached the game. When he's gone it will be a loss for the entire NFL in my opinion.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Whatever. HOF QBs get serious slack. He's earned it. One of the greatest QBs you'll ever see. 8 pro bowls, #1 all time completions, #2 in yards and TDs. He's a great player. Shut up and give him a bit of respect.

2nd most INTs as well.

[rcaldw]

I hope he does come back personally.

I don't get wrapped up in the superficial stuff about should he stay or should he go. The guy can play and he's a joy to watch. I will always admire the way he approached the game. When he's gone it will be a loss for the entire NFL in my opinion.

I suppose I appreciated Roger's and Troy's understated demeanor. I can't stand that a guy seems to play the media for all the face time he can get. Like I said, it isn't his play that bothers me nearly as much as his multiple retirement tributes that he not only allows, he seems to encourage. I don't like it.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

I love favre. He has been good for the nfl. I will miss him.

I felt the same way when montana, marino, kelly and elway and of course aikman retired.

He is a good guy and really is everything you could want in an athlete.

I dont find his act tiresome at all. It is a tough decision, there is no going back.


A good guy who used his wife's cancer and dad's death to get major face time.

A good guy who was addicted to meds and alcohol.

A good guy who is all about himself and the numbers.

[rcaldw]

I'm a Cowboys fan, but Brett Favre is every ounce the QB that Aikman was.

One of the top QB's of all time.

It will be a real shame when he leaves. The last of an era. A little bit of the 90's Cowboys and the Triplets will retire with Favre when he goes. I hold that Favre and those Packers in the same light as those Cowboys teams.

Can't agree with you there. Certainly more publicized due to his "gunslinging" M.O. Certainly more loved because he laughed and slapped rear ends while he played. But he wasn't the playoff QB that Aikman was. Favre threw away many a game that could have been won. But we all have our view of it. QB debates are non-winnable.

[WarC]

A good guy who used his wife's cancer and dad's death to get major face time.

A good guy who was addicted to meds and alcohol.

A good guy who is all about himself and the numbers.

BS, the media is all over his nuts on that stuff. That's something he can't help, just like TO can't help but receive the media coverage he gets.

[WarC]

Can't agree with you there. Certainly more publicized due to his "gunslinging" M.O. Certainly more loved because he laughed and slapped rear ends while he played. But he wasn't the playoff QB that Aikman was. Favre threw away many a game that could have been won. But we all have our view of it. QB debates are non-winnable.

Agreed. I do not mean to take anything from Aikman because I think he is very underrated by people outside of the Cowboys fanbase.

[theebs]

A good guy who used his wife's cancer and dad's death to get major face time.

A good guy who was addicted to meds and alcohol.

A good guy who is all about himself and the numbers.

I dont see him that way at all. I never have.

He was addicted to pain killers. I am not sure why any of this stuff matters.

I like brett favre the football player. He is what I want in my nfl football players.
I hope he returns I still enjoy watching him play. I have never seen him play live and I would really like to.

[rcaldw]

BS, the media is all over his nuts on that stuff. That's something he can't help, just like TO can't help but receive the media coverage he gets.

I agree with you on his wife's cancer and his dad's death. I don't think he sought that out. But this retirement stuff is definitely fueled by Favre.

NOT THE DISCUSSION OF IT. He can't help that.

But when you allow the tributes and shoot the in game interviews, and take a victory lap at Lambeau, call press conferences to announce you don't know and cry with Andrea Kramer, AND THEN KEEP COMING BACK? That is called "milking it".

And I do think that Favre has always liked the attention. He is just that way.

[Cochese]

I hope he does come back personally.

I don't get wrapped up in the superficial stuff about should he stay or should he go. The guy can play and he's a joy to watch. I will always admire the way he approached the game. When he's gone it will be a loss for the entire NFL in my opinion.

I couldnt agree more, I had an incredibly amazing time watching him throw 6 INT's in the playoffs a few years ago.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

I dont see him that way at all. I never have.

He was addicted to pain killers. I am not sure why any of this stuff matters.

I like brett favre the football player. He is what I want in my nfl football players.
I hope he returns I still enjoy watching him play. I have never seen him play live and I would really like to.

Well let's see, Irvin is ripped for just using cocaine, Leon Lett was laughed at for his addictions, others as well, yet Favre got away with his addiction and people felt sorry for him. Aww poor Brett, he wanted to play so badly he got himself addicted.

[romo4pres]

Well let's see, Irvin is ripped for just using cocaine, Leon Lett was laughed at for his addictions, others as well, yet Favre got away with his addiction and people felt sorry for him. Aww poor Brett, he wanted to play so badly he got himself addicted.

you guys have to be qualifying for some sort of football blasphemy here.
First of all to say he doesnt compare to aikman is the worst type of homerism ive ever seen. Hes been in 2 superbowls and won the big one. He's faded quite a bit from his prime..of this theres no doubt...but in his prime the guy was one of the best qbs of all time.
Favre has a lot of ints but the packers have never been one of those ghetto teams even as hes reached his twilight..

All that said..theres another important point on why he deserves respect from you people. The guy is class. The ultimate sportsman. If more stars were like him the league would be in much better shape. I promise you that.

[Cochese]

First of all to say he doesnt compare to aikman is the worst type of homerism ive ever seen. Hes been in 2 superbowls and won the big one. He's faded quite a bit from his prime..

Aikman won the big THREE and he was the MVP of one of them. His accuracy is top 3 all time, his leadership is unmatched, his ability to WIN the big games is off the charts. Comparing Farve to Troy is blasphemy and it makes me sick. It must have been too many years since you saw a good QB.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Favre has a lot of ints but the packers have never been one of those ghetto teams even as hes reached his twilight..



What is that supposed to mean?

if you are referring to their lack of criminals, what about a rapist known as Mark Chmura, allegedly?

Didn't Green get charged with spousal abuse, or was it some other Packer. They have had their share of criminals. No one makes a big deal of it because those players play for a small market parasititical franchise.

[Hostile]

I couldnt agree more, I had an incredibly amazing time watching him throw 6 INT's in the playoffs a few years ago.Blah, blah, blah. Don't waste my time with screed like this.

[Cochese]

What is that supposed to mean?

if you are referring to their lack of criminals, what about a rapist known as Mark Chmura, allegedly?

Didn't Green get charged with spousal abuse, or was it some other Packer. They have had their share of criminals. No one makes a big deal of it because those players play for a small market parasititical franchise.

Dont forget the alleged best QB of all time (after Aikman) taking ILLEGAL prescriptions for painkillers. Thats pretty ghetto.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Blah, blah, blah. Don't waste my time with screed like this.


Well that was a lovely INT he threw to the Eagles back in 2003 in overtime. any other QB would have been roasted, his was called "Brett being Brett, he's just having fun out there".

[Cochese]

Blah, blah, blah. Don't waste my time with screed like this.

I diddnt think he could hit six, but he blew my mind and actually accomplished it. Great QB's dont give the ball over like they have a bet on the game.

[rcaldw]

you guys have to be qualifying for some sort of football blasphemy here.
First of all to say he doesnt compare to aikman is the worst type of homerism ive ever seen. Hes been in 2 superbowls and won the big one. He's faded quite a bit from his prime..of this theres no doubt...but in his prime the guy was one of the best qbs of all time.
Favre has a lot of ints but the packers have never been one of those ghetto teams even as hes reached his twilight..

All that said..theres another important point on why he deserves respect from you people. The guy is class. The ultimate sportsman. If more stars were like him the league would be in much better shape. I promise you that.

Ok, I guess this is the main point of my displeasure. What do you see that makes him class?

That he concedes to all the interviews he does?

Is it class to keep accepting retirement accolades, IF, he comes back next year, for 3 years straight?

Is it class to call a press conference to announce that you haven't made your mind up? He knew it would be well attended. He knew that people thought it was an announcement of a decision. Instead, he talks about his charity event.

Is it class, if you are TRULY undecided, to give the interviews that will be run all game long as IF you are retiring? To run around Lambeau field as if it is your last game? To be carried off by teammates only to come back again?

If Brett Favre really IS class, then please stop making a joke out of your retirement intentions.

I'm NOT saying he ISN'T class. I'm saying, then act in accordance with class.

He can't help them talking about it. It happens with a hall-of-fame player.

But stop milking it. That isn't what the greats do. In fact, can you think of one NFL player (again, if he comes back next year), who did this in back to back years?

Jim Brown goes off quickly and in comparison, quietly.
Emmitt Smith, same thing.
Aikman, tearfully, but only once.
Roger, with class, quickly and quietly.
Barry Sanders, so quickly and quietly it was strange.
Elway, with decisiveness.

To keep dragging the thing out, in such a public way, year after year isn't class.

[Alexander]

Whatever. HOF QBs get serious slack. He's earned it. One of the greatest QBs you'll ever see. 8 pro bowls, #1 all time completions, #2 in yards and TDs. He's a great player. Shut up and give him a bit of respect.

I have never respected him ever since he laid down for Michael Strahan.

[Cochese]

Ok, I guess this is the main point of my displeasure. What do you see that makes him class?

That he concedes to all the interviews he does?

Is it class to keep accepting retirement accolades, IF, he comes back next year, for 3 years straight?

Is it class to call a press conference to announce that you haven't made your mind up? He knew it would be well attended. He knew that people thought it was an announcement of a decision. Instead, he talks about his charity event.

Is it class, if you are TRULY undecided, to give the interviews that will be run all game long as IF you are retiring? To run around Lambeau field as if it is your last game? To be carried off by teammates only to come back again?

If Brett Favre really IS class, then please stop making a joke out of your retirement intentions.

I'm NOT saying he ISN'T class. I'm saying, then act in accordance with class.

He can't help them talking about it. It happens with a hall-of-fame player.

But stop milking it. That isn't what the greats do. In fact, can you think of one NFL player (again, if he comes back next year), who did this in back to back years?

Jim Brown goes off quickly and in comparison, quietly.
Emmitt Smith, same thing.
Aikman, tearfully, but only once.
Roger, with class, quickly and quietly.
Barry Sanders, so quickly and quietly it was strange.
Elway, with decisiveness.

To keep dragging the thing out, in such a public way, year after year isn't class.

He definetly screwed the Pack over last season, but that Favre Publicity Team in the booth tonight swore he would make his decision early this season.

[rcaldw]

I have never respected him ever since he laid down for Michael Strahan.

Wow, Alexander, I had totally forgotten about that. Great point. And again, completely in agreement with his rear end slapping, eye winking, ways. :)

[AbeBeta]

He's a grandstander.

If it was Emmitt or Troy in this spot you'd be crying every time an announcer didn't praise them.

Favre is a great player. The hate is uncalled for. Good fans can respect great players.

[Alexander]

Wow, Alexander, I had totally forgotten about that. Great point. And again, completely in agreement with his rear end slapping, eye winking, ways. :)

Nothing is more charming than a quarterback who can fart on command.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

I have never respected him ever since he laid down for Michael Strahan.

Silly, that showed how classy he is and how much he respects the NFL and his friends. He let his friend get a record.

[DawnOfANewD]

I feel sorry for Aaron Rodgers. On one hand, if Favre retires, Rodgers faces the pressure of succeeding one of the greatest QB's in the game and a legend in the city of Green Bay. On the other hand, if Favre plays another year, Rodgers has to plunk his butt down on the sidelines for another frustrating season.

[Alexander]

I feel sorry for Aaron Rodgers. On one hand, if Favre retires, Rodgers faces the pressure of succeeding one of the greatest QB's in the game and a legend in the city of Green Bay. On the other hand, if Favre plays another year, Rodgers has to plunk his butt down on the sidelines for another frustrating season.

It is no different than what Danny White had to deal with.

Wait, Roger Staubach had true class and didn't string the franchise along every offseason.

[rcaldw]

If it was Emmitt or Troy in this spot you'd be crying every time an announcer didn't praise them.

Favre is a great player. The hate is uncalled for. Good fans can respect great players.

I can't agree with you on this abersonc. I liked Emmitt, but I hated it when Irvin and Emmitt starting taking their helmets off after every score to get face time on TV.

And you misunderstand me. I respect Favre's play, even though I honestly think he is overrated. If I had a dollar for every TD pass he threw under 5 yards I would be rich.

I appreciated Aikman's selfless approach to playing the game. It is one reason he isn't more highly thought of today. He didn't complain for his stat padding. He just played to win. Nor did he play it up for the media. Which is why people were so shocked when he became an announcer that he was different in the booth than he had been as an interview.

I'm not "hating" on Favre. I'm saying, if you are going to play, then play. If you are going to retire then retire. IF YOU AREN'T SURE, THEN STOP WITH THE TRIBUTES! You can have your tribute when you actually quit!

And I think THAT would be class. As it is going he will be given more send off tributes than there are Rocky movies.

[Big Dakota]

Haven't seen butt kissing like this since Sinatra had the Rat Pack around him. Favre is a caricture of himself.

[rcaldw]

Haven't seen butt kissing like this since Sinatra had the Rat Pack around him. Favre is a caricture of himself.

Truer words have never been typed.

[VA Cowboy]

Favre balling like a baby

Reporter: "So, what emotions are you feeling now?"

:lmao2:

[rcaldw]

Favre balling like a baby

Reporter: "So, what emotions are you feeling now?"

:lmao2:

And Favre's response. I can't remember exactly but something like, "Well, I would think it shows." Or something along those lines. i.e., "can't you see my tears?"

[Alexander]

And Favre's response. I can't remember exactly but something like, "Well, I would think it shows." Or something along those lines. i.e., "can't you see my tears?"

:rolleyes:

[wxcpo]

I hope he does come back personally.

I don't get wrapped up in the superficial stuff about should he stay or should he go. The guy can play and he's a joy to watch. I will always admire the way he approached the game. When he's gone it will be a loss for the entire NFL in my opinion.

I hope he comes back as well. To me he is one of the top players (not just top QBs) to play the game. He has been good for the game and he is one of the few players for an opposing team that I actually like to watch.

Someone asked about him accepting retirement "gifts" every year. Exactly what gifts has he accepted? The media is fueling the Farve lovefest and I think deservedly so. The guy has played for 16 seasons and has started every game of every season for the last 14 seasons. Can you imagine not having to worry about your QB position for that long? Not only that, but having one of the best at the postion each and every year.

I certainly think he can still play if he wants to and I hope he does come back again.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Nothing would be cooler than for Newman to intercept him at Texas Stadium next season (breaking Blanda's all-time INT record) run it back to the house and then have Roy Williams carry him off the field like Favour does to Driver.

BTW, how do you get Farve out of Favre?

[TwoSteppinJJ]

Im sure you didnt mind it when the media was excessively raving over Romo about 4 weeks ago...

Favre deserves all the accolades.

[jackrussell]

And Favre's response. I can't remember exactly but something like, "Well, I would think it shows." Or something along those lines. i.e., "can't you see my tears?"

If this is all you have to complain about....life is good.

[rcaldw]

If this is all you have to complain about....life is good.

If all you have to complain about is what I have to complain about, your life must be equally good. :)

[rcaldw]

QB Aaron Rodgers seems to know the value of Favre tears after the game.

This is a quote from a story by ESPN on last night's game:

Talking about Favre's tears Rodgers said:

"I wouldn't read too much into that" While Favre might have been overcome with emotion immediately after the game, he was back to his jovial self by the time he got back to the locker room, Rodgers said.

"He's an emotional guy, but there wasn't really any tears or anything in the locker room."

Packers fullback William Henderson, Favre's teammate since 1995, professed surprise Monday when he was told the QB became emotional after the game. "Did he? Well when I saw Brett he was yapping it up with the boys."

Turn off the cameras, and Brett loses that retirement feeling.

[Alexander]

QB Aaron Rodgers seems to know the value of Favre tears after the game.

This is a quote from a story by ESPN on last night's game:

Talking about Favre's tears Rodgers said:

"I wouldn't read too much into that" While Favre might have been overcome with emotion immediately after the game, he was back to his jovial self by the time he got back to the locker room, Rodgers said.

"He's an emotional guy, but there wasn't really any tears or anything in the locker room."

Packers fullback William Henderson, Favre's teammate since 1995, professed surprise Monday when he was told the QB became emotional after the game. "Did he? Well when I saw Brett he was yapping it up with the boys."

Turn off the cameras, and Brett loses that retirement feeling.

:laugh2:

[jimmy40]

This guy's act is shameless. How many farewell tributes will you allow? All it takes is for the guy to be honest about his intentions. He is coming back next year, and he knows it. And if you want to say he really doesn't know, then if you aren't a media monger you don't do all your little interview inserts that run all game long. We went through all this last year. Will we have to next year too? How many times can a guy get retirement coverage before he actually retires?

And John Madden has to be the biggest fan of a single NFL player in NFL history. Man does he love Brett Favre.If your not a Geen Bay fan what difference does it make?