PDA

View Full Version : Starting to feel better


FolsomCowboy
01-01-2007, 05:00 PM
The team has looked pretty bad and is on the ropes but if you think about it, this is actually their best possible playoff scenario, go to Seattle and play another questionable team without 3 of their top 4 CB's. You get by there and you play Chicago who really has no QB so anything is possible. You win those 2 and you now have a swagger. Likely...no....possible...yes

Hostile
01-01-2007, 05:01 PM
Personally I think the best possible scenario involves a team without glaring weaknesses that are being exploited.

theogt
01-01-2007, 05:04 PM
The team has looked pretty bad and is on the ropes but if you think about it, this is actually their best possible playoff scenario, go to Seattle and play another questionable team without 3 of their top 4 CB's. You get by there and you play Chicago who really has no QB so anything is possible. You win those 2 and you now have a swagger. Likely...no....possible...yesI agree. Seattle is beatable. A win would regain confidence and who knows what happens the next week. We just have to pray that the coaching staff is actually attempting to fix our problems rather than sitting around with their thumbs up their arses waiting for better "execution."

Teague31
01-01-2007, 05:06 PM
Chicago has no QB against other teams- against our defense he will be the second coming of Unitas- I'm thinking 23 of 30 for 285 and 3 TD's.:bang2:

Big Country
01-01-2007, 05:07 PM
Personally I think the best possible scenario involves a team without glaring weaknesses that are being exploited.

The mystery lies in the inability to adjust... It has reached critical mass.

ROMOSAPIEN9
01-01-2007, 05:07 PM
My "best possible scenario" has us @ 16-0 with a bye.

FolsomCowboy
01-01-2007, 05:08 PM
Personally I think the best possible scenario involves a team without glaring weaknesses that are being exploited.

Allow me 5 minutes of delusion please

theogt
01-01-2007, 05:08 PM
My "best possible scenario" has us @ 16-0 with a bye.I think the OP means best possible scenario given our circumstances right now.

dre1614
01-01-2007, 05:08 PM
I have no question we will be able to score on them.

Only thing i'm worried about is turnovers, and 3rd down stops.

ROMOSAPIEN9
01-01-2007, 05:10 PM
I think the OP means best possible scenario given our circumstances right now.

Oh.....

Then I'll take 9-7 @Seattle.

Cbz40
01-01-2007, 05:11 PM
Buck Harvey: Roy oh Roy — Why Dallas is in trouble

Web Posted: 12/31/2006 11:43 PM CST

Express-News

IRVING — Roy Williams likes the other Roy Williams, even as they continue to run into each other. Detroit's Roy even seemed to admire the latest punishment Dallas' Roy gave him Sunday.
After the game, sitting at his locker, Detroit's Roy playfully pushed up an ear lobe to show how he felt after Dallas' Roy had leveled him. "I was thinking, 'Did he hit me so hard my brain is hanging out?'"


Detroit's Roy also likes the team that Dallas' Roy plays for. Growing up in West Texas before starring for the University of Texas, Williams says he's always been a Cowboys fan. That's why Williams likes to think the Cowboys have "a shot" next weekend in Seattle, when few others give them one.

But Williams also knows the Lions did to the Dallas secondary what the three previous teams did. Williams scored twice, once by the skin of his toes, and a remarkable teammate, Mike Furrey, ended with 11 catches.

So what's wrong with a Dallas defense that has given up an average of 33 points in its last four games?

"It starts up front," said Williams.

It may start there, but that's not the final destination. Dallas' Roy, for example, whiffed an interception that his namesake would have caught with his size 16 feet.

The Dallas coaches dropped a few things, too, since the Cowboys were baffled every time the Lions dared to slip a back past the line for a short pass. The end of the first half said something about coaching, too.

Then, it was clear the Lions would run one play with eight seconds left before settling for a field goal, and where might that end-zone lob go? Perhaps to Williams, whose freakish ability in Austin is still legendary?

The Cowboys countered by putting 5-foot-9 Aaron Glenn on Williams without help. No wonder Bill Parcells looked so gloomy afterward; no one on his staff saw that touchdown coming.

And then there's Terence Newman, a younger, taller version of Glenn. His punt return nullified an earlier muff, but nothing else he did canceled out being beaten for the go-ahead touchdown.

But Detroit's Williams says that isn't the problem, and he should know, since he was running through the Dallas secondary. Besides, he's big on analysis this season.

Earlier this season, he announced the Lions would beat the Bears and, after they lost badly, Williams didn't back down. "We will win the (next) game," he said, "and I don't care who it's against." Then the Lions lost again.

He makes no predictions now, except to say he will be loyal. He watched the Alamo Bowl, too, with his family in a Dallas hotel, and he says he yelled at the TV for his Longhorns.

So when asked if the Cowboys can come out of this, Williams searched for an excuse. "Everyone steps up in the playoffs," and then he caught himself and smiled. "I don't know myself. I've just heard that."

Then Williams settled on a more tangible issue. The Cowboys sacked Jon Kitna five times, with three by DeMarcus Ware, and that suggests they were putting pressure on Kitna.

In truth? Kitna, who had been sacked more than any NFL quarterback coming into this game, had time to throw when he needed time, and a play that Parcells pointed to later underlines that.

Then, on third-and-10 on the game-winning drive, Kitna waited for Detroit's Roy to run deep down the middle, and even another hit by Dallas' Roy couldn't stop the first down.

"You can put Champ Bailey back there, the best corners," Williams said. "And they can't stop an NFL quarterback who has time to throw."

They couldn't stop a Detroit offense that had averaged just 17 points a game. Either it's about personnel, or they are caught between Parcells' 3-4 and Mike Zimmer's 4-3.

Either way, they now meet a system smart enough to get to the Super Bowl just a year ago, and there's little reason to think the Cowboys can reverse themselves, especially in a short week with a long plane ride.

Roy Williams saw it firsthand. Roy Williams is in trouble.



If we can get this fixed.....I dont see how.

5Stars
01-01-2007, 05:13 PM
I agree. Seattle is beatable. A win would regain confidence and who knows what happens the next week. We just have to pray that the coaching staff is actually attempting to fix our problems rather than sitting around with their thumbs up their arses waiting for better "execution."


Stranger things have happened in the NFL and the world of sports...

Nobody will know until we know, that's why they play the game. The Cowboys are in a world of hurt right now, but, you can lose some battles and still win the war...

For a Parcells analogy, remember the "Rope a Dope" fight? I was sure that Ali was going to lose that fight, then all of a sudden he knocked the hell out of that BIG BAD BULLY Foreman. Ali was getting the crap knocked out of him, but I guess he had a plan?

I don't know if the coaches have a plan, it sure as hell don't look like it, but, hey, you never know? Like I said, stranger things have happened...

Saturday cannot get here fast enough for me...!

The thrill of Victory, or the agoney of Defeat...?

;)
:star:

ROMOSAPIEN9
01-01-2007, 05:15 PM
"Stranger things have happened." "Any given Sunday" = 9-8

5Stars
01-01-2007, 05:20 PM
"Stranger things have happened." "Any given Sunday" = 9-8


You got it!

;)

Look at the big bad Colts...the darlings of the NFL?

Alexander
01-01-2007, 05:20 PM
The end of the first half said something about coaching, too.

Then, it was clear the Lions would run one play with eight seconds left before settling for a field goal, and where might that end-zone lob go? Perhaps to Williams, whose freakish ability in Austin is still legendary?

The Cowboys countered by putting 5-foot-9 Aaron Glenn on Williams without help. No wonder Bill Parcells looked so gloomy afterward; no one on his staff saw that touchdown coming.


That was about as intelligent as not defending the sideline route against the Eagles last week and putting in Terrell Owens expecting a Hail Mary.

It makes no sense and really is mind bogglingly ignorant if you really sit down and digest it.

Aaron Glenn did have a great comment. "Nobody knows what to do."

If your coaches are confused, how can the players not react in kind?

theogt
01-01-2007, 05:23 PM
That was about as intelligent as not defending the sideline route against the Eagles last week and putting in Terrell Owens expecting a Hail Mary.

It makes no sense and really is mind bogglingly ignorant if you really sit down and digest it.

Aaron Glenn did have a great comment. "Nobody knows what to do."

If your coaches are confused, how can the players not react in kind?Oh wow...do you have a link handy for that one?

MetalHead
01-01-2007, 05:41 PM
The team has looked pretty bad and is on the ropes but if you think about it, this is actually their best possible playoff scenario, go to Seattle and play another questionable team without 3 of their top 4 CB's. You get by there and you play Chicago who really has no QB so anything is possible. You win those 2 and you now have a swagger. Likely...no....possible...yes

You don't understand...our defense can make Rex Grossman look like Joe Montana.
They damn nearly put Jon Kitna in the Pro Bowl yesterday.
Michael Vick had never thrown 4 TDs in his career,until he met our defense.
Drew Brees is good,our D made him look Canton bound.

Forget about Seattle's DBs,I worry about our own defense or lack thereof.

bbgun
01-01-2007, 05:46 PM
Why must people seduce themselves into thinking we'll win next Saturday? It's the equivalent of repeatedly sticking your hand on a hot stove. We couldn't beat the worst team in football at home, yet somehow we're gonna beat a much better team on the road during a short week. If ever there was a time for low expectations, it's today. Enough of the false confidence.

theogt
01-01-2007, 05:48 PM
Why must people seduce themselves into thinking we'll win next Saturday? It's the equivalent of repeatedly sticking your hand on a hot stove. We couldn't beat the worst team in football at home, yet somehow we're gonna beat a much better team on the road during a short week. If ever there was a time for low expectations, it's today. Enough of the false confidence.It is too bad we don't all have your crystal ball. I hope you're placing every penny of your wealth on Seattle, what with your knowledge of the outcome and all.

Alexander
01-01-2007, 05:51 PM
Oh wow...do you have a link handy for that one?

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/football/16361643.htm

"We are all low right now," Glenn said. "Not just Bill. We don't know what to do. But we do know we are in the playoffs. At least we have a chance."

Now that could mean nobody knows what to do for the future, but I doubt it.

To me, it is a symbol of the general state of confusion this defense is in.

5Stars
01-01-2007, 05:52 PM
Why must people seduce themselves into thinking we'll win next Saturday? It's the equivalent of repeatedly sticking your hand on a hot stove. We couldn't beat the worst team in football at home, yet somehow we're gonna beat a much better team on the road during a short week. If ever there was a time for low expectations, it's today. Enough of the false confidence.


So, bbgun, have you submitted your resume to ESPN?

:rolleyes:

bbgun
01-01-2007, 05:53 PM
It is too bad we don't all have your crystal ball. I hope you're placing every penny of your wealth on Seattle, what with your knowledge of the outcome and all.

This is a day for anger, not false hope. Are you done pumping up Ware's three sacks?

Alexander
01-01-2007, 05:53 PM
Why must people seduce themselves into thinking we'll win next Saturday? It's the equivalent of repeatedly sticking your hand on a hot stove. We couldn't beat the worst team in football at home, yet somehow we're gonna beat a much better team on the road during a short week. If ever there was a time for low expectations, it's today. Enough of the false confidence.

It's not false confidence to state we have a chance because we do.

I don't think we do personally, but I won't fault someone for being hopeful.

Afterall, we all cannot jump off the bridge.

dre1614
01-01-2007, 05:54 PM
Why must people seduce themselves into thinking we'll win next Saturday? It's the equivalent of repeatedly sticking your hand on a hot stove. We couldn't beat the worst team in football at home, yet somehow we're gonna beat a much better team on the road during a short week. If ever there was a time for low expectations, it's today. Enough of the false confidence.


if you know we are going to lose Saturday, why don't you bet all your savings on this game? your guaranteed to win right?

5Stars
01-01-2007, 05:55 PM
This is a day for anger, not false hope. Are you done pumping up Ware's three sacks?


No day should be a day for anger! If you think so...then you need some Anger Management Counseling...

:laugh2:

ROMOSAPIEN9
01-01-2007, 05:55 PM
It's not false confidence to state we have a chance because we do.

I don't think we do personally, but I won't fault someone for being hopeful.

Afterall, we all cannot jump off the bridge.

I've got my own personal/adjustable bungee cord. Got it for $19.98 on ebay.

LaTunaNostra
01-01-2007, 05:55 PM
Why must people seduce themselves into thinking we'll win next Saturday? It's the equivalent of repeatedly sticking your hand on a hot stove. We couldn't beat the worst team in football at home, yet somehow we're gonna beat a much better team on the road during a short week. If ever there was a time for low expectations, it's today. Enough of the false confidence.

Hey, Owens and Glenn (and Pat and Jason) will win it for us...you think those third team corners can hold those weapons? :D

gbrittain
01-01-2007, 05:55 PM
Personally I think the best possible scenario involves a team without glaring weaknesses that are being exploited.

Yeah, I like that scenario too!!!

5Stars
01-01-2007, 05:56 PM
Afterall, we all cannot jump off the bridge.

Suicide is painless...

;)

theogt
01-01-2007, 05:57 PM
This is a day for anger, not false hope. Are you done pumping up Ware's three sacks?Some of us don't get irrational when we lose. Yesterday's game has no bearing on Saturday's game.

ROMOSAPIEN9
01-01-2007, 05:58 PM
Some of us don't get irrational when we lose. Yesterday's game has no bearing on Saturday's game.

It ABSOLUTELY does my friend.

bbgun
01-01-2007, 05:58 PM
It's not false confidence to state we have a chance because we do.

I don't think we do personally, but I won't fault someone for being hopeful.

Afterall, we all cannot jump off the bridge.

There's hope and there's false hope based on recent history. It's like losing your wife to cancer and hitting the dating scene the very next day. A little too soon, wouldn't you say?

theogt
01-01-2007, 06:00 PM
There's hope and there's false hope based on recent history. It's like losing your wife to cancer and hitting the dating scene the very next day. A little too soon, wouldn't you say?Talk about bad analogies.

bbgun
01-01-2007, 06:03 PM
Some of us don't get irrational when we lose. Yesterday's game has no bearing on Saturday's game.

Ah yes, the old "We're 0-0 and anything can happen" chestnut. Classic. Like you, I hope we win, but spare me the chest-beating posts brimming with optimism.

bbgun
01-01-2007, 06:05 PM
Talk about bad analogies.

It's perfectly apt. We lost yesterday in devastating fashion, and today too many people are willing to forgive, forget, and move on. Not having it.

5Stars
01-01-2007, 06:07 PM
It's perfectly apt. We lost yesterday in devastating fashion, and today too many people are willing to forgive, forget, and move on. Not having it.


A wife that died of cancer and a football team losing a freaking game is absoutely not the same!

It must suck to be you....!




:cool:

LaTunaNostra
01-01-2007, 06:08 PM
It's perfectly apt. We lost yesterday in devastating fashion, and today too many people are willing to forgive, forget, and move on. Not having it.

I see people trying to move on, yes, but a lot more not even close to forgiving, much less forgetting.

Better yet, I see people trying to puzzle put how we could actually match up next week.

Btw, anyone have a sense of how the Hawks did vs the last 3-4 team they faced? Which I assume was SD a few week back?

theogt
01-01-2007, 06:09 PM
Ah yes, the old "We're 0-0 and anything can happen" chestnut. Classic. Like you, I hope we win, but spare me the chest-beating posts brimming with optimism.Where are these chest-beating posts? If you don't like optimistic threads, don't click on them. I've never understood why you declared yourself the topic police.

So far you've said we can't discuss (1) the possibility of winning a playoff game and (2) individual team achievements on the season.

It's perfectly apt. We lost yesterday in devastating fashion, and today too many people are willing to forgive, forget, and move on. Not having it.No, it's a horrible analogy.

LaTunaNostra
01-01-2007, 06:13 PM
A wife that died of cancer and a football team losing a freaking game is absoutely not the same!

It must suck to be you....!




:cool:

Geez, you folks are way too literal.:lmao:

5Stars
01-01-2007, 06:17 PM
Geez, you folks are way too literal.:lmao:


I agree...bbgun is to literal...and his analogy was bad.

How about an analogy that if you just got turned down by some hot chick (like Romo did) and then lose a game?

:o:

theogt
01-01-2007, 06:22 PM
Geez, you folks are way too literal.:lmao:The more appropriate analogy would be going on 17 consecutive dates with different people and not wanting to go on the 17th date because the 16th date went bad.

DIAF
01-01-2007, 06:27 PM
The more appropriate analogy would be going on 17 consecutive dates with different people and not wanting to go on the 17th date because the 16th date went bad.


I think there is way too much discussion over an analogy.

bbgun
01-01-2007, 06:41 PM
A wife that died of cancer and a football team losing a freaking game is absoutely not the same!

It must suck to be you....!

I was making a marriage analogy, especially the "for better or for worse" part. Of course we have a chance next Saturday. Hell, Detroit proved as much yesterday. But a realistic chance, considering the nosedive they're in? I don't see it.

FolsomCowboy
01-01-2007, 06:46 PM
My only point in this whole thread is that considering our current circumstances this matchup gives us the best case sceanrio for a potential win.

Hostile
01-01-2007, 07:16 PM
Allow me 5 minutes of delusion pleaseIt was the 5 before the post though.

:grin:

5Stars
01-01-2007, 07:34 PM
I don't see it.

I don't either...because the game has not been played.

That's the point...! However...watch and see...

;)