Today's press conference at 1345 hours

[Mr Cowboy]

It was changed to 1:45.

DC.Com radio is on the air....Mickey has been bashing Quincy.

ReShard Lee interview coming up on the next block of programming at 11:30, with Eatman.

[hockix]

It was changed to 1:45.

DC.Com radio is on the air....Mickey has been bashing Quincy.

ReShard Lee interview coming up on the next block of programming at 11:30, with Eatman.

1:45 cmt or easter time or what?

[mullet]

what did he say about quincy?

[starfrombirth]

and I dont hear any interview by Reshard Lee :eek:

[jamez25]

DC.Com radio is on the air....Mickey has been bashing Quincy.
bashing Quincy :confused:

[TheSkaven]

It was changed to 1:45.

DC.Com radio is on the air....Mickey has been bashing Quincy.
Of course, because it was clearly Quincy's fault we lost on Sunday. ;)

[LaTunaNostra]

I could have missed a few words (tho I don't think so), but all I heard Spagnola say was Quincy couldn't have made all the throws this guy made yesterday.

http://photos.imageevent.com/hermsherald/key/VT_1.jpg

Btw, props to the DMN photographers. At least someone was doing a good job yesterday.

[Portland Fanatic]

I could have missed a few words (tho I don't think so), but all I heard Spagnola say was Quincy couldn't have made all the throws this guy made yesterday.

http://photos.imageevent.com/hermsherald/key/VT_1.jpg

Btw, props to the DMN photographers. At least someone was doing a good job yesterday.

No way he can make all the throws VT can make and did make...not even a discussion point. :mad:

[dbair1967]

I could have missed a few words (tho I don't think so), but all I heard Spagnola say was Quincy couldn't have made all the throws this guy made yesterday.

http://photos.imageevent.com/hermsherald/key/VT_1.jpg

Btw, props to the DMN photographers. At least someone was doing a good job yesterday.

If thats what was said, cant really be qualified as bashing. It's the truth.

VT had an awesome game, other than the slight underthrow to Bryant and maybe 1 or 2 others that might have been throways (hard to tell) he played a heckuva game...probably alot of 28-32 yr olds wish they could play the way VT did yesterday...

David

[Midswat]

Do you have a link?

I can't get it to work from DC.com/

[Tenkamenin]

The funny thing is if Quincy throws for 300 and only has 1 TD Mick is going to say "Well he only threw for 1TD" blah blah bs. He's always finding something...

[Pooz]

It was changed to 1:45.

DC.Com radio is on the air....Mickey has been bashing Quincy.

ReShard Lee interview coming up on the next block of programming at 11:30, with Eatman.Mickey is full of it. I could cover the Cowboys better than him.

[Mr Cowboy]

Sorry guys, the boss had do some actual work.

They were saying that judging from Vinnie's performance yesterday, that he was not sure Quincy would have been cut at the end of pre-season. He's not sure that he would have been gone anyway.....

He then went on to say how Quincy couldn't make all the throws or the right decisions.

BTW, they are still trying to get Lee in for the interview.

[DallasInDC]

DC.Com radio is on the air....Mickey has been bashing Quincy.

Enough already Mickey. It's time to let it go and move on. Everyone else has.

I'm beginning to think that QC slept with his girl and it has become personal for him.

[Bach]

Enough already Mickey. It's time to let it go and move on. Everyone else has.

I'm beginning to think that QC slept with his girl and it has become personal for him.

And what makes you think Mickey has a girl?

[Rack Bauer]

And what makes you think Mickey has a girl?


Beat me to it. :D


I think Mickey's pissed cuz QC jacked some of his weed.

[LaTunaNostra]

They were saying that judging from Vinnie's performance yesterday, that he was not sure Quincy would have been cut at the end of pre-season. He's not sure that he would have been gone anyway.....


Yes, he did make that remark about Vinnie, because of his ability to make all the throws, possibly beating out Q before camp ended. That didn't sound like bashing to me either. When Spags is on a Carter Bash, it leaves NO doubt.

Is anyone else getting nothing but garbled feed right now from dc.com? Like a cassette tape caught in the gears?

won't make hearing the pc easy.

[Jimz31]

For all of the "good throws" and "accurate decisions", it still netted VT just as many points as we averaged last year. Heck of an upgrade.

[dbair1967]

For all of the "good throws" and "accurate decisions", it still netted VT just as many points as we averaged last year. Heck of an upgrade.

If you think he isnt an upgrade, you've been hitting the bong with your man Carter.

We only scored 17 yesterday, but Vinnie didnt botch a fg or fumble in the redzone...he also didnt blow the obvious PI on Keyshawn Johnson on the opening drive. He had to play in a bad situation, yet he didnt throw pick after pick or fumble when hit 10 times either.

David

[DallasInDC]

And what makes you think Mickey has a girl?

That's a valid point. QC must have done something. maybe he B*itch slapped him in front of Ricky Williams, and stepnoski when Mickey grabbed for the spliff.

[Rack Bauer]

Is anyone else getting nothing but garbled feed right now from dc.com? Like a cassette tape caught in the gears?


What the hell are Mick and Nick doing?! :confused: :eek:

[BHendri5]

What girl would want Mickey? He is about 3ft tall. The Jackrabbits in San Antonio are taller than Mickey.

VT did not make any throws that QC could not have made. He had time to throw as the O- Line is much better than it was last season

[LaTunaNostra]

For all of the "good throws" and "accurate decisions", it still netted VT just as many points as we averaged last year. Heck of an upgrade.
Well, I had the same concern yesterday with VT as I had when he QBed NY. Good stats, not enough points. And that is worrisome. We most certainly need to put up more than 17 - against anyone.

But the first quarter drives which SHOULD have ended in seven and three, were not on VT.

The play calling at the end of the first drive could have been better, and the aborted FG was not on Vin either. Both are actually, on Tuna.

(Now that we have a passer like Vin, even more reason to let Sean take over the play calling, full time. BP calling plays has been 'my' major Tuna critique since he's been here. )

Signed,

VT Apologist :D

[Jimz31]

If you think he isnt an upgrade, you've been hitting the bong with your man Carter.

We only scored 17 yesterday, but Vinnie didnt botch a fg or fumble in the redzone...he also didnt blow the obvious PI on Keyshawn Johnson on the opening drive. He had to play in a bad situation, yet he didnt throw pick after pick or fumble when hit 10 times either.

David

Bottom line.....17 points is all that he led us to correct?

You can try an excuse it away, but 17 is STILL 17.

[LaTunaNostra]

VT did not make any throws that QC could not have made.

Sure, especially since accuracy is highy over-rated! I could have made most of 'em.

They were ALL circus catches by the receivers yesterday, not just Terry's TD.

[Chocolate Lab]

Well, I had the same concern yesterday with VT as I had when he QBed NY. Good stats, not enough points. And that is worrisome. We most certainly need to put up more than 17 - against anyone.

But the first quarter drives which SHOULD have ended in seven and three, were not on VT.

The play calling at the end of the first drive could have been better, and the aborted FG was not on Vin either. Both are actually, on Tuna.

(Now that we have a passer like Vin, even more reason to let Sean take over the play calling, full time. BP calling plays has been 'my' major Tuna critique since he's been here. )

Signed,

VT Apologist :D

It's not Vinny's fault that he had such poor running behind him...

Except for when Lee was in, of course. :)

[Rack Bauer]

(Now that we have a passer like Vin, even more reason to let Sean take over the play calling, full time. BP calling plays has been 'my' major Tuna critique since he's been here. )


I was actually wanting the Cowboys to run the ball more. I thought BP went to the nickel offense too soon. We should of ran Lee more IMO.

[LaTunaNostra]

Bottom line.....17 points is all that he led us to correct?

You can try an excuse it away, but 17 is STILL 17.
Gotta love it, Jim. And how curious - the number in question is.....17.

I love Quincy, as I do Vinnie, but yesterday we'd have fared even worse with Q.
At some points yesterday, we were in the game. Because we can play catch up with MOST offenses in this league now. Unfortunately, Minny is not yet one of 'em.

Do you think that late second qtr drive, which began when we had exactly 26 seconds left on the clock, was within Carter's current range of capabilities?

Seriously, Jim. Seriously.

[DallasInDC]

It's not Vinny's fault that he had such poor running behind him...

Except for when Lee was in, of course. :)


I think that is key for our red zone success this year. If we can establish a strong running presence inside the opponents 20 it opens things up for the passing game. teams have to pay if they key on the passing game in the red zone and vice versa.

[ABQCOWBOY]

For all of the "good throws" and "accurate decisions", it still netted VT just as many points as we averaged last year. Heck of an upgrade.


Carter got three full years. Why don't we consider giving VT more then just one away game before we pass judgement on his ability to score.

Are we agreed?

[LaTunaNostra]

It's not Vinny's fault that he had such poor running behind him...

Except for when Lee was in, of course. :)
And some confounded idiot took Lee out! :D

Some idiot knowing we weren't running our way to a win in the 4th qtr, and thinking more about pass protection than anything else, I reckon. Darn it if Richie didn't make that the wrong choice!

[Cheap Shot Artist]

The funny thing is if Quincy throws for 300 and only has 1 TD Mick is going to say "Well he only threw for 1TD" blah blah bs. He's always finding something...

Qc never threw for 300 yards and a TD...the Giants game last year he threw for over 300 but had 0 TD's passing...int for a TD in Singleton and a QC scramble for a TD

[Rack Bauer]

we can play catch up with MOST offenses in this league now.


I disagree. If we can only score 17 on one of the worst defenses in the league, how many are we gonna score vs a good or even an average defense?

Of course we probably should of had AT LEAST 13 more points though.

[Jimz31]

Carter got three full years. Why don't we consider giving VT more then just one away game before we pass judgement on his ability to score.

Are we agreed?

Come on ABQ, don't you see the irony in all of this?

Yes, what I'm saying is tongue-in-cheek.....

Seriously though, his ability to score has been a long debated issue. He's NOT a prolific scorer as so many here seem to think.

[Jarv]

If you think he isnt an upgrade, you've been hitting the bong with your man Carter.

We only scored 17 yesterday, but Vinnie didnt botch a fg or fumble in the redzone...he also didnt blow the obvious PI on Keyshawn Johnson on the opening drive. He had to play in a bad situation, yet he didnt throw pick after pick or fumble when hit 10 times either.

David

I agree David, except where did Vinnie fumble the snap yesterday ?

[Cheap Shot Artist]

Bottom line.....17 points is all that he led us to correct?

You can try an excuse it away, but 17 is STILL 17.

Yeah, that vaunted D of ours also allowed 299 yards on 4 straight TD drives the Vikes had in the 2nd and 3rd quarters when the Vikes had total control

put that on Vinnies shoulders

Last year it was an inept O and a very good D (which feasted on weak offenses)

This year is the antithesis

[ABQCOWBOY]

Come on ABQ, don't you see the irony in all of this?

Yes, what I'm saying is tongue-in-cheek.....

Seriously though, his ability to score has been a long debated issue. He's NOT a prolific scorer as so many here seem to think.

I see the point your trying to illustrate here Jim but honestly, if were depending on Vinnie to win games for us with his arm, then our offense is in way serious trouble. We are a running team. We did not do a very good job of showing that yesterday but that's what we are. Vinnie is here to manage the game and make a few plays. He did that yesterday. I expect no more, no less from him. Vinnie had a good game yesterday. He did exactly what we brought him here to do. You can't ask anything more from a player then that.

[Jimz31]

Yeah, that vaunted D of ours also allowed 299 yards on 4 straight TD drives the Vikes had in the 2nd and 3rd quarters when the Vikes had total control

put that on Vinnies shoulders

Last year it was an inept O and a very good D (which feasted on weak offenses)

This year is the antithesis

Yeah, those 17 points looked ALOT better.

Unbelievable.....17 points is 17 points.

[ddh33]

The offense looked better. I don't know how anyone can deny that.

The problem was the D. The scary thing to me is that the defense didn't always look great at the end of last season either.

[dbair1967]

Yeah, those 17 points looked ALOT better.

Unbelievable.....17 points is 17 points.

Even more unbelievable, no turnovers by the starting QB

wow...

David

[Rack Bauer]

I think everyone here is overreacting to our offense. Sure they looked good... vs one of the worst defenses in the league.

Vinnie did do better then Carter, but we still only scored 17 points vs one of the worst defenses in the league.

[BHendri5]

Sure, especially since accuracy is highy over-rated! I could have made most of 'em.

They were ALL circus catches by the receivers yesterday, not just Terry's TD.


you might as well say all of them. You should be feeling good your team scored 31 points and won the game. Oh I forgot you have an afc and an nfc team, either way you can come out feeling cheery.

Pick one and stick with it.

[BHendri5]

I think everyone here is overreacting to our offense. Sure they looked good... vs one of the worst defenses in the league.

Vinnie did do better then Carter, but we still only scored 17 points vs one of the worst defenses in the league.


He did not

[Chocolate Lab]

you might as well say all of them. You should be feeling good your team scored 31 points and won the game. Oh I forgot you have an afc and an nfc team, either way you can come out feeling cheery.

Pick one and stick with it.
..... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: .......

[BHendri5]

Even more unbelievable, no turnovers by the starting QB

wow...

David


Yeah, wow. I sure saw the minnesota's defense get their hands a quite a few passes, they just could not haul it in.

[AsthmaField]

I think everyone here is overreacting to our offense. Sure they looked good... vs one of the worst defenses in the league.

Vinnie did do better then Carter, but we still only scored 17 points vs one of the worst defenses in the league.

Right. I think our offense isn't quite as good as it looked... however, I don't think our defense is quite as bad as it looked either.

Minnesota supposedly had a lot of defensive upgrades over the offseason and they showed it during the preseason, so perhaps our offense is pretty good and we only made their D look bad.

Time will tell. One thing we do know though... our offense is much better now than it was last season, and Vinny is a big part of that.

[Rack Bauer]

He did not


lol, yes he did.


Even more unbelievable, no turnovers by the starting QB

I certainly hope you knocked on wood after posting this. Vinny hasn't exactly taken care of the ball very good throughout his career.

[dbair1967]

Yeah, wow. I sure saw the minnesota's defense get their hands a quite a few passes, they just could not haul it in.

wow even more funny...whenever our former starter did that and it was brought up it was downplayed or we were told "that doesnt matter, it wasnt a pick was it?"

honestly, enough of the Q crap...he isnt here anymore...let it go people

David

[boysfanindc]

I think everyone here is overreacting to our offense. Sure they looked good... vs one of the worst defenses in the league.

Vinnie did do better then Carter, but we still only scored 17 points vs one of the worst defenses in the league.

Who says they are the worst defense in the league this year?

There is no way to say that at this point in this year. Is not the same defense as last year.

[dbair1967]

lol, yes he did.




I certainly hope you knocked on wood after posting this. Vinny hasn't exactly taken care of the ball very good throughout his career.

early in his career yeah I'd agree, he was way upside down with tds-ints...but the yr with Parcells running the O he was +22...last yr in 7 games he only threw 2 picks...

David

[Rack Bauer]

Who says they are the worst defense in the league this year?

There is no way to say that at this point in this year. Is not the same defense as last year.


I was waiting for some homer to come try and make us all feel better about our offense. Hey, I'm happy our offense moved the ball yesterday. That's encouraging. But 17 points isn't enough, I don't care who the QB is.


honestly, enough of the Q crap...he isnt here anymore...let it go people

Exactly. Q is in the past. Let's worry about our present and future.

[Rack Bauer]

early in his career yeah I'd agree, he was way upside down with tds-ints...but the yr with Parcells running the O he was +22...last yr in 7 games he only threw 2 picks...

David


I don't care. Knock on wood anyway. Don't f'in jinx it. He did fumble a snap yesterday. You're knocking on wood could be the difference. ;)

[boysfanindc]

I just wish BP would quit trying to make points and play the best players as he says all the time "based on performance".

[LaTunaNostra]

you might as well say all of them. You should be feeling good your team scored 31 points and won the game. Oh I forgot you have an afc and an nfc team, either way you can come out feeling cheery.

Pick one and stick with it.

No I can't come out feeling "cheery".

Just like you can't since the player you put above any team is now sitting the bench behind Chad Pennington. :D

[Aikmaniac]

Hmm...I opened this thread thinking I'd get some info from the PC, but only got to read about Mickey's QC comments, then the bickering started.


What was said at the PC, guys?

[50cent]

He throws for 58%, I thought 60 was the mark everyone wanted?
He make Glenn dive for the ball, Thought we were looking for in stride catches?
He just about got AB and KJ killed on 3 straight throws, but he is accurate (KJ being up-ended).

If QC does all of this, some of you fake wanna a be coaches would be trying to lynch QC like Mick. Just a bunch a hypocrites! And you know I'm tellling the truth! Lets not even mention only 17 points! God, I can only imagine what would have been blamed on CQ for 17 points. Remember the whole FGs not TDs discussion!

[BHendri5]

wow even more funny...whenever our former starter did that and it was brought up it was downplayed or we were told "that doesnt matter, it wasnt a pick was it?"

honestly, enough of the Q crap...he isnt here anymore...let it go people

David


You know what? that is what trips me out. He's gone but yet they still bring his name up about this or that, and then when someone says anything opposite of what they just said , they have problems with it.

There are a lot of things that you have to put into the equation for last season with Q and for this season so far with VT, you can start with the O-line play.

[LaTunaNostra]

Hmm...I opened this thread thinking I'd get some info from the PC, but only got to read about Mickey's QC comments, then the bickering started.


What was said at the PC, guys?
Sorry Aikmaniac, I usually summarize it but got too much 'multitasking" today to do it.

One thing stuck out was that when asked if he had "talked to Hunter", Bill said not yet, but he's not the only one - there's a "guy on the other side" he needs to talk to too.

They archive them quickly at dc.com and hopefully Wulfie did a summary.

[AsthmaField]

He throws for 58%, I thought 60 was the mark everyone wanted?
He make Glenn dive for the ball, Thought we were looking for in stride catches?
He just about got AB and KJ killed on 3 straight throws, but he is accurate (KJ being up-ended).

If QC does all of this, some of you fake wanna a be coaches would be trying to lynch QC like Mick. Just a bunch a hypocrites! And you know I'm tellling the truth! Lets not even mention only 17 points! God, I can only imagine what would have been blamed on CQ for 17 points. Remember the whole FGs not TDs discussion!

Had Quincy made all those throws that Vinny did, I certainly wouldn't be blaming the lack of points on him... just like I'm not blaming Vinny.

Problem is though, Carter doesn't have the capability of having games like that.

Just like anyone watching the game yesterday could tell that Vinny wasn't the problem... anyone could tell last year that Carter was.

[Hollywood Henderson]

Wow, I can't even beleive some people are still defending bong hit carter...The GUY was the worst passer in our great history...took 2 years to learn how to take a snap and fumbles when not even hit...

We get in a great passer & true leader in Vinny and people are trying to play that off...

Man, take another bong hit with Q and maybe you will still beleive it...

[Rack Bauer]

Sorry Aikmaniac, I usually summarize it but got too much 'multitasking" today to do it.

One thing stuck out was that when asked if he had "talked to Hunter", Bill said not yet, but he's not the only one - there's a "guy on the other side" he needs to talk to too.

They archive them quickly at dc.com and hopefully Wulfie did a summary.


Interesting. Obviously, unless I'm misunderstanding you, he's referring to someone on offense, right?

Who do you think it is?

[Rack Bauer]

Wow, I can't even beleive some people are still defending bong hit carter...The GUY was the worst passer in our great history...took 2 years to learn how to take a snap and fumbles when not even hit...

We get in a great passer & true leader in Vinny and people are trying to play that off...

Man, take another bong hit with Q and maybe you will still beleive it...


I think it's ignorant, sadistic posts like this that make people want to defend Carter. Not only is your post uncalled for, but it's inaccurate as well.

[coach316]

Interesting. Obviously, unless I'm misunderstanding you, he's referring to someone on offense, right?

Who do you think it is?

I think he means on the other side as in left vs. right, not defense vs. offense.

As in he needs to have a talk with Newman.

[blindzebra]

Interesting. Obviously, unless I'm misunderstanding you, he's referring to someone on offense, right?

Who do you think it is?

He was talking about Newman.

He followed that up with they completed every throw on the other side, two for TDs.

[Rack Bauer]

Ooooh, Ok.


Well, Newman is off limits here. Anyone that criticizes him gets their head bit off so I'll stay out of that one. He is thy holy one.


It's funny though... a top 5 pick plays poorly and it's ok. But a 5th rounder plays poorly in only his 3rd start and people want to crucify him. Shouldn't we be expecting more from our higher picks?

[LaTunaNostra]

Interesting. Obviously, unless I'm misunderstanding you, he's referring to someone on offense, right?

Who do you think it is?
It was T-New, poor kid.

He was also asked if Roy is being played out of position. He said in our system the safties are NOT "interchangable". It's that in this sys the weak side safety is actually more like a strong saftey.

Love to see this one elaborated on, if we can break out of Q vs VT mode. :D

[Doomsday101]

This is too funny, Vinny was hitting guys where they could catch then turn the ball up field, Carter constantly put the ball where guys were having to bend over backwards to catch them. Sorry if you can't tell the differance in performance at QB yesterday compared to the last 3 to 4 years then you really have no clue when it comes to QBs. That was night and day from what we have been seeing, but I do notice it is the carter crowd who are once again trying to defend what can't be defended Carter lack of skill.

[Chocolate Lab]

Parcells mentioned several weeks ago that the weak and strong safeties in this system are just the reverse of the way most people think about those positions...

I think the change in saying before that our safeties are more or less interchangable and now saying they aren't is because Roy and Woodson are at least close in talent, while there's a light year or two between Roy and Dixon.

[Rack Bauer]

It was T-New, poor kid.

He was also asked if Roy is being played out of position. He said in our system the safties are NOT "interchangable". It's that in this sys the weak side safety is actually more like a strong saftey.

Love to see this one elaborated on, if we can break out of Q vs VT mode. :D


Interesting. What we probably do is over play the strong side with our DL and/or LBs, and walk Roy up on the weak side. If a team runs to their strong side the RB is likely to cut back, right into Roy.

I'm guessing that's what he's talking about.

[LaTunaNostra]

Interesting. What we probably do is over play the strong side with our DL and/or LBs, and walk Roy up on the weak side. If a team runs to their strong side the RB is likely to cut back, right into Roy.

I'm guessing that's what he's talking about.
Yeah, it was clear he meant the safety playing the weak side has to have more of the attributes of a strong saftey.

[boysfanindc]

Ooooh, Ok.


Well, Newman is off limits here. Anyone that criticizes him gets their head bit off so I'll stay out of that one. He is thy holy one.


It's funny though... a top 5 pick plays poorly and it's ok. But a 5th rounder plays poorly in only his 3rd start and people want to crucify him. Shouldn't we be expecting more from our higher picks?

I guess the difference is that Tnew has at least a 1 years body of work that shows us he can be a quality cb.

[jterrell]

Had Quincy made all those throws that Vinny did, I certainly wouldn't be blaming the lack of points on him... just like I'm not blaming Vinny.

Problem is though, Carter doesn't have the capability of having games like that.

Just like anyone watching the game yesterday could tell that Vinny wasn't the problem... anyone could tell last year that Carter was.
Actually he did have a game very similar last year week 2.

Not that is matters and exactly why Mickey should keep Carter's name out of his mouth. The guy is gone. We have VT here for better or worse and we need to actually prevent a deep pass or two before we get concerned about great QB play.