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Bob Sacamano
02-27-2007, 01:42 PM
1st CB Chris Houston~5'10 185 4.32 40, 225 27 times, 36 inch vert, 10.02 broad-jump, basically made some of the best SEC WRs his biznach, including one Jarrett
2nd WR Laurent Robinson~6'2" 199 4.38 40, 39 inch vert, 4.28 short-shuttle
3rd DE/OLB Jay Moore~6'4" 274, 4.92 40, 4.35 short-shuttle, which means he's extremely quick
Hostile
02-27-2007, 01:44 PM
Yes, I'd be totally pissed off.
Someone is going to be. Might as well be me.
thor_01
02-27-2007, 01:45 PM
i would be deliriously happy, especially with the third round pick,love that kid
Bob Sacamano
02-27-2007, 01:46 PM
Yes, I'd be totally pissed off.
Someone is going to be. Might as well be me.
lol, I admit the 3rd round pick could be better, but you can't go wrong w/ Jay Moore, but the 1st 2 picks are stylin'
zrinkill
02-27-2007, 01:46 PM
First 2 look good ..... I know nothing about Jay Moore ...... Can Thor tell us anything?
apickmans
02-27-2007, 01:47 PM
this Houston kid is gonna be a stud. I know the Skins were talking to him at the combine, which doesnt mean much but still. I dont know whats more impressive.......his 40 time or the fact he repped 27 times.
Bob Sacamano
02-27-2007, 01:48 PM
First 2 look good ..... I know nothing about Jay Moore ...... Can Thor tell us anything?
Jay Moore is a stud IMO, the classic overachiever type, who lived in the opponent's backfield his final 2 years, was one of the best pass-rushers at the Senior Bowl all week, topping it off w/ 3 sacks in the game, a perfect SOLB in the 3-4
Bob Sacamano
02-27-2007, 01:48 PM
this Houston kid is gonna be a stud. I know the Skins were talking to him at the combine, which doesnt mean much but still. I dont know whats more impressive.......his 40 time or the fact he repped 27 times.
he's the closest thing to a shut-down corner in this draft, besides Leon Hall and Revis
COWBOYSNUM1
02-27-2007, 01:50 PM
Yes, I'd be totally pissed off.
Someone is going to be. Might as well be me.
There would be at least 2 of us that are upset. :bang2::bang2::bang2:
thor_01
02-27-2007, 01:50 PM
he has been timed at 4.69 in the 40 previously, not that that matters that much, but i watched him the last two years he is an unstoppable force, and with a never wind down engine, he is gonna be the next ware or merriman when next season starts
alancdc
02-27-2007, 01:56 PM
he has been timed at 4.69 in the 40 previously, not that that matters that much, but i watched him the last two years he is an unstoppable force, and with a never wind down engine, he is gonna be the next ware or merriman when next season starts
Where did these kids go to school?
apickmans
02-27-2007, 01:56 PM
he's the closest thing to a shut-down corner in this draft, besides Leon Hall and Revis
Surprised Hall clocked in with that 4.39 time. He really needed that as he was sliding down the draft charts lately. If Houston was a couple inches taller he probably would be going in the top 10. Hey you guys mind if we borrow a couple of draft picks from you guys?
Bob Sacamano
02-27-2007, 01:58 PM
Surprised Hall clocked in with that 4.39 time. He really needed that as he was sliding down the draft charts lately. If Houston was a couple inches taller he probably would be going in the top 10. Hey you guys mind if we borrow a couple of draft picks from you guys?
yep, Hall really needed today, back in the top 15 for him
:laugh2: no draft picks for you!
Bob Sacamano
02-27-2007, 01:59 PM
Where did these kids go to school?
Houston, Arkansas
Robinson, Northern Illinois
Moore, Nebraska
fortdick
02-27-2007, 02:01 PM
this Houston kid is gonna be a stud. I know the Skins were talking to him at the combine, which doesnt mean much but still. I dont know whats more impressive.......his 40 time or the fact he repped 27 times.
Does that mean they will use their only pick on him?
iceberg
02-27-2007, 02:02 PM
1st CB Chris Houston~5'10 185 4.32 40, 225 27 times, 36 inch vert, 10.02 broad-jump, basically made some of the best SEC WRs his biznach, including one Jarrett
2nd WR Laurent Robinson~6'2" 199 4.38 40, 39 inch vert, 4.28 short-shuttle
3rd DE/OLB Jay Moore~6'4" 274, 4.92 40, 4.35 short-shuttle, which means he's extremely quick
well, you know me and my OL fixing status i kept even during the draft - and that's all good. i still hold to the line.
however, if we move henry to the safety position, then CB suddenly *is* an area of need. if that's the case then a solid CB in the 1st wouldn't bother me much.
another LB would make me wanna slap a kitten.
Bob Sacamano
02-27-2007, 02:04 PM
14, 168, 1
that's the receptions, yards and TDs given up by Chris Houston against Dwayne Jarrett, Dwayne Bowe and Robert Meachem combined
fortdick
02-27-2007, 02:04 PM
Jay Moore is a stud IMO, the classic overachiever type, who lived in the opponent's backfield his final 2 years, was one of the best pass-rushers at the Senior Bowl all week, topping it off w/ 3 sacks in the game, a perfect SOLB in the 3-4
So we replace a first round pick with a third? We have SOLB for years to come. I would give James this year to prove he wasn;t a fluk in 2005, then start looking to replace him.
Need a NG in the third, otherwise, I love these picks
Hostile
02-27-2007, 02:05 PM
i would be deliriously happy, especially with the third round pick,love that kidLove the new avatar.
theogt
02-27-2007, 02:11 PM
1st CB Chris Houston~5'10 185 4.32 40, 225 27 times, 36 inch vert, 10.02 broad-jump, basically made some of the best SEC WRs his biznach, including one Jarrett
2nd WR Laurent Robinson~6'2" 199 4.38 40, 39 inch vert, 4.28 short-shuttle
3rd DE/OLB Jay Moore~6'4" 274, 4.92 40, 4.35 short-shuttle, which means he's extremely quickYes, I would be upset. This is a draft loaded with talent at 'tweener and WR (both positions of relative need) and you want to get bottom of the barrel on both. Makes no sense.
Also, some sites are listing Moore's combine 40 time as a 5.0. No, dude, this would not be a successful first day.
apickmans
02-27-2007, 02:11 PM
14, 168, 1
that's the receptions, yards and TDs given up by Chris Houston against Dwayne Jarrett, Dwayne Bowe and Robert Meachem combined
Are you kidding me???! Where is Houston gonna get picked now? How has he not gotten more attention than Hall or Revis and those guys before the combine?
Bob Sacamano
02-27-2007, 02:15 PM
Yes, I would be upset. This is a draft loaded with talent at 'tweener and WR (both positions of relative need) and you want to get bottom of the barrel on both. Makes no sense.
Also, some sites are listing Moore's combine 40 time as a 5.0. No, dude, this would not be a successful first day.
Laurent Robinson averaged 17.5 yards per catch his final 2 years, scored 19 times in the same time-frame, and is a stud physically, I don't know how you could dismiss him and say the class is loaded w/ talent at WR
Jay Moore may not be fast in a straight-line, but he's extremely quick and just makes plays, plus a report is out that alot of people like him at the Combine
thor_01
02-27-2007, 02:29 PM
Love the new avatar.
thanks, i finally complained long enough about not being able to find the right one, that the wife designed that one for me.................
Cochese
02-27-2007, 02:29 PM
I would be. Call me crazy, but I believe that we dont need first round picks at every position in the secondary.
fortdick
02-27-2007, 02:56 PM
I would be. Call me crazy, but I believe that we dont need first round picks at every position in the secondary.
:hammer: :thankyou:
Bob Sacamano
02-27-2007, 03:08 PM
I don't know why anyone would be upset w/ drafting a crazy athletic, shutdown corner
LatinMind
02-27-2007, 03:14 PM
i dont like the fact about picking up guys because of solid combine numbers. it helps but i'd rather take guys who made it happen on the field.
i would be mad about that first day except for jay moore. would like him in dallas. if dallas didnt have the other 3 De's they already have. and they didnt have ellis and carp too
Bob Sacamano
02-27-2007, 03:15 PM
i dont like the fact about picking up guys because of solid combine numbers. it helps but i'd rather take guys who made it happen on the field.
i would be mad about that first day except for jay moore. would like him in dallas. if dallas didnt have the other 3 De's they already have. and they didnt have ellis and carp too
did you read the #s on the amount of receptions, yards and TD, I just posted, given up by Houston, combined, against the likes of Dwayne Jarrett, Dwayne Bowe and Robert Meachem this year? and Robinson was pretty productive, 17.5 ypc his final 2 years, and 19 TDs in same span
LatinMind
02-27-2007, 03:19 PM
did you read the #s on the amount of receptions, yards and TD, I just posted, given up by Houston, combined, against the likes of Dwayne Jarrett, Dwayne Bowe and Robert Meachem this year? and Robinson was pretty productive, 17.5 ypc his final 2 years, and 19 TDs in same span
me i'd have hughes over houston
and gonzalez over robinson.
in both rounds
Bob Sacamano
02-27-2007, 03:21 PM
me i'd have hughes over houston
and gonzalez over robinson.
in both rounds
so a cover-2 corner over a man-coverage corner, when Wade Phillips likes to use alot of man?
and I'd take Gonzo over Robinson too, but he won't be around mid-2nd IMO
LatinMind
02-27-2007, 03:26 PM
so a cover-2 corner over a man-coverage corner, when Wade Phillips likes to use alot of man?
and I'd take Gonzo over Robinson too, but he won't be around mid-2nd IMO
i seen alot of cal games. and i seen hughes cover plenty of man on man. and did u not see him during the sr bowl? and that week of practice? i'd go on that evaluation over all this 40 time nonsense anyday and evenmoreso on gameday
Bob Sacamano
02-27-2007, 03:28 PM
i seen alot of cal games. and i seen hughes cover plenty of man on man. and did u not see him during the sr bowl? and that week of practice? i'd go on that evaluation over all this 40 time nonsense anyday and evenmoreso on gameday
I saw the Senior Bowl, and I saw David Irons stand out more as a man-cover corner than Hughes, read all the draft reports you want, you'll see shutdown next to Houston, not so much for Hughes
LatinMind
02-27-2007, 03:33 PM
I saw the Senior Bowl, and I saw David Irons stand out more as a man-cover corner than Hughes, read all the draft reports you want, you'll see shutdown next to Houston, not so much for Hughes
in college im sure he was a shutdown. in the nfl? he's a penalty waiting to happen.
philo beddoe
02-27-2007, 03:44 PM
Yes, I'd be totally pissed off.
Someone is going to be. Might as well be me.
Me too.
I think that is a couple of rounds too early for Robinson. I really like the guy, but not in the second.
I think that is early for Jay Moore as well.
Bob Sacamano
02-27-2007, 03:46 PM
Me too.
then I did pretty well :D
Bob Sacamano
02-27-2007, 03:47 PM
in college im sure he was a shutdown. in the nfl? he's a penalty waiting to happen.
:confused:
03EBZ06
02-27-2007, 03:50 PM
14, 168, 1
that's the receptions, yards and TDs given up by Chris Houston against Dwayne Jarrett, Dwayne Bowe and Robert Meachem combined
Just to put things in perspective...When Arkansas played against USC, it was a blowout by USC and Booty and Jarrett didn't even play 4th quarter, also, Booty was spreading the ball around, he connected with nine different receivers on that day.
Not saying Houston doesn't deserve the accolades, just saying those numbers doesn't show entire picture.
Bob Sacamano
02-27-2007, 03:51 PM
Just to put things in perspective...When Arkansas played against USC, it was a blowout by USC and Booty and Jarrett didn't even play 4th quarter, also, Booty was spreading the ball around, he connected with nine different receivers on that day.
Not saying Houston doesn't deserve the accolades, just saying those numbers doesn't show entire picture.
fair enough, but the biggest day a WR to gain more than 65 yards on Houston was Sidney Rice
Pottsville Maroons
02-27-2007, 03:55 PM
then I did pretty well :D
Amen, Brother. ;)
LatinMind
02-27-2007, 04:01 PM
fair enough, but the biggest day a WR had against Houston last year was Sidney Rice w/ something like 68 yards
i'd like to know where u got the stats of who houston was covering and how many yrds he gave up a game because i've been looking on espn and they dont show who was covering on receptions. so do u know for a fact he only covered the best wr? or are u guessing that he was on them all game? because as u know teams do move their players around.
Bob Sacamano
02-27-2007, 04:03 PM
i'd like to know where u got the stats of who houston was covering and how many yrds he gave up a game because i've been looking on espn and they dont show who was covering on receptions. so do u know for a fact he only covered the best wr? or are u guessing that he was on them all game? because as u know teams do move their players around.
I read it wrong, it's supposed to be the only WR who gained more than 65 yards on Houston was Rice, not what you have quoted, and I'm getting it from Arkansas fans and/or who saw a majority of his games, the stat about Meachem, Jarrett and Bowe came from NFLDraftCountdown.com, on his profile
ConcordCowboy
02-27-2007, 04:05 PM
Since he's dropping...:D ...I'd be pissed...Because it didn't include.
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LatinMind
02-27-2007, 04:07 PM
I read it wrong, it's supposed to be the only WR who gained more than 65 yards on Houston was Rice, not what you have quoted, and I'm getting it from Arkansas fans and/or who saw a majority of his games, the stat about Meachem, Jarrett and Bowe came from NFLDraftCountdown.com, on his profile
well hecould have very well gave up more yrds right? i dont think he covered any of them the full game. so basically he gave up 65 yrds on partial coverage you could assume right? thats not as good as it seems if u look at it like that. and to think he probably gave up a few more passes to other wr's during the game. he's decent, but i'd still pick hughes over him. im not into the flavor of the combine type players.
LatinMind
02-27-2007, 04:12 PM
chris houston played little his sophmore season and only his sr yr. had 38tackles, 7 assisted tackles and 3 int
daymeion hughes had 37 tackles with 35 assissts. with 8 ints
numbers and production speak volums
Bob Sacamano
02-27-2007, 04:15 PM
well hecould have very well gave up more yrds right? i dont think he covered any of them the full game. so basically he gave up 65 yrds on partial coverage you could assume right? thats not as good as it seems if u look at it like that. and to think he probably gave up a few more passes to other wr's during the game. he's decent, but i'd still pick hughes over him. im not into the flavor of the combine type players.
that's all well and good, except for the fact that you have nothing to base that off of
Bob Sacamano
02-27-2007, 04:19 PM
chris houston played little his sophmore season and only his sr yr. had 38tackles, 7 assisted tackles and 3 int
daymeion hughes had 37 tackles with 35 assissts. with 8 ints
numbers and production speak volums
tell that to Ty Detmer
LatinMind
02-27-2007, 04:20 PM
tell that to Ty Detmer
why did he play defense?
LatinMind
02-27-2007, 04:21 PM
that's all well and good, except for the fact that you have nothing to base that off of
exactly like u dont on saying he's a shutdown guy
Bob Sacamano
02-27-2007, 04:22 PM
exactly like u dont on saying he's a shutdown guy
uh, his scouting report
LatinMind
02-27-2007, 04:23 PM
uh, his scouting report
i dare u to go read detmers scouting report:D if u can find it
Chris in Arizona
02-27-2007, 05:59 PM
I could live with Houston in the 1st. He reminds me of Dunta Robinson, who seemingly came out of nowhere and became a very high 1st round pick.
In the 2nd round I'd prefer USC WR Steve Smith. He would be an ideal slot receiver and could take over the #2 spot when Terry Glenn is ready to hang em up.
3rd round, and this might be a reach, but I'd take a chance on Brian Robison of Texas. Looks like he could be stud OLB in the 3-4 and would bring pressure opposite DeMarcus Ware.
I'd really like to see us somehow make a move to get into the top 8 and take LaRon Landry, the FS from LSU. He is going to be an All Pro safety. Maybe we can trade our 1st as well as our 2008 1st. Normally, I hate trading future picks but next year's draft looks pretty weak.
More than anything I'm jsut glad to be talking Cowboys' football. :star:
LatinMind
02-27-2007, 06:01 PM
I could live with Houston in the 1st. He reminds me of Dunta Robinson, who seemingly came out of nowhere and became a very high 1st round pick.
In the 2nd round I'd prefer USC WR Steve Smith. He would be an ideal slot receiver and could take over the #2 spot when Terry Glenn is ready to hang em up.
3rd round, and this might be a reach, but I'd take a chance on Brian Robison of Texas. Looks like he could be stud OLB in the 3-4 and would bring pressure opposite DeMarcus Ware.
I'd really like to see us somehow make a move to get into the top 8 and take LaRon Landry, the FS from LSU. He is going to be an All Pro safety. Maybe we can trade our 1st as well as our 2008 1st. Normally, I hate trading future picks but next year's draft looks pretty weak.
More than anything I'm jsut glad to be talking Cowboys' football. :star:
lol funny i mentioned smith before the season finished and i got this kind of response " smith is so slow its pathetic" hahaha
Chris in Arizona
02-27-2007, 06:31 PM
I think he ran a 4.4 at the combine. Plus, if people have watched any USC football the past 3 years they would have seen all of the huge plays he's made.
Teague31
02-27-2007, 06:33 PM
this Houston kid is gonna be a stud. I know the Skins were talking to him at the combine, which doesnt mean much but still. I dont know whats more impressive.......his 40 time or the fact he repped 27 times.
Chris Houston = Ahmad Carroll.
Bizwah
02-27-2007, 06:59 PM
I've watched a lot of Arkansas games.....my sister's family lives in Bentonville, and the Hogs are IT down there.
Houston is not all that. He will not be a true shut down guy. He's a solid CB, with fantastic numbers....Now, those numbers do mean that he has the POTENTIAL to get better. But right now, he's not a guy I'd salivate over.
Another thing to note....Arkansas led the SEC (and the nation, I believe) in rushing offense. They held the ball forever. Opposing teams didn't have a chance to really get into their offense.
So, to make a long story short....I wouldn't like that first day. Houston would be tolerable, but Robinson in the second? Let's be careful not to fall too much in love with forty times. That's what got us into trouble in the past.
Biggems
02-27-2007, 10:26 PM
i dont really know anything about any of the guys in ur draft......I know that CB kid is supposed to be pretty good. BTW, in your original post you made it seem like Jarrett played in the SEC...I am sure u know what Conference he is in.....just the wording was off a bit.
I would prefer my draft to yours......no offense.....
trade down in the first and add a 3rd and 6th
1 - G/T Justin Blalock Texas
2 - WR Anthony Gonzalez tOSU
3 - DT Kareem Brown the U
3 - OLB Brian Robison Texas
Alexander
02-27-2007, 10:27 PM
Chris Houston = Ahmad Carroll.
It took you a whole two seconds to make the Arkansas connection.
Very good.
Alexander
02-27-2007, 10:28 PM
i seen alot of cal games. and i seen hughes cover plenty of man on man. and did u not see him during the sr bowl? and that week of practice? i'd go on that evaluation over all this 40 time nonsense anyday and evenmoreso on gameday
His workout at the Combine should tell you one thing. Even if the numbers don't scare you.
He wasn't prepared for a very big event in relation to his career.
I'd want nothing to do with him for that simple fact.
That is what people lose perspective about the workouts.
The best rise to the occasion. If he's the best, he should have been prepared. Or been like many others, skip the workouts so you can weigh things in your favor.
The fact he participated and was a joke, that is not something to simply wave off.
Biggems
02-27-2007, 10:39 PM
His workout at the Combine should tell you one thing. Even if the numbers don't scare you.
He wasn't prepared for a very big event in relation to his career.
I'd want nothing to do with him for that simple fact.
That is what people lose perspective about the workouts.
The best rise to the occasion. If he's the best, he should have been prepared. Or been like many others, skip the workouts so you can weigh things in your favor.
The fact he participated and was a joke, that is not something to simply wave off.
I agree.....the Combine is a job interview....if you show you aren't prepared or have a sour attitude.....then be prepared to lose out on a lot of money that could have gone your way had you been professional...had you prepared....had you come in with an open mind and a positive demeanor.....had you been willing to do everything they asked of you to the very best of your ability.
Brian Robison did and his stock will definitely rise, as did Lorenzo Booker.....and many others.
Hughes is another Golden Bear prima donna......
baj1dallas
02-27-2007, 10:50 PM
I've watched a lot of Arkansas games.....my sister's family lives in Bentonville, and the Hogs are IT down there.
Houston is not all that. He will not be a true shut down guy. He's a solid CB, with fantastic numbers....Now, those numbers do mean that he has the POTENTIAL to get better. But right now, he's not a guy I'd salivate over.
Another thing to note....Arkansas led the SEC (and the nation, I believe) in rushing offense. They held the ball forever. Opposing teams didn't have a chance to really get into their offense.
So, to make a long story short....I wouldn't like that first day. Houston would be tolerable, but Robinson in the second? Let's be careful not to fall too much in love with forty times. That's what got us into trouble in the past.
I watched almost all the Arkansas games. Houston is the real deal. He is a heck of a lot closer to a shutdown corner than Aaron Ross from UT. He is the best man to man cover corner I remember seeing for a while. A much different player from Carrol who was a great athlete but never great in man coverage. Houston will start as a rookie and have a good long career in the NFL.
And also Arkansas didn't always dominate time of possesion because a lot of those rushing yards came of 80 yard sprints from both Jones (pure speed) and McFadden (beautiful stiff-arm).
Woods
02-28-2007, 09:24 AM
have some down time before FA begins?
Two Major Assumptions:
1. We re-sign Colombo, and
2. We sign an OG in FA
Round 1
C. Houston, CB, Arkansas (alt. A. Ross, CB, Texas)
Round 2
L. Woodley, OLB, Michigan
Woodley would play OLB in Wade's 34
Round 3
A. Allison, WR, E. Carolina (alt. P. Williams, WR or S. Smith, WR USC)
Round 4
Doug Free, OT, N. Illinois
Free would be groomed to play LT and would provide some depth along with McQuisten. Think Free could also play either OT position, giving us some versatility.
Round 5
J. Beck, QB, BYU
Beck would be brought along slowly, like Romo. Hopefully, we pick up a solid veteran QB in FA for Beck to learn from.
Round 6
A. M Wrotto, OG, Georgia Tech
Wrotto needs development work at OG, but he has the tools. Assuming we sign an OG in FA, Wrotto could be given a year or two to improve his skills.
B. P. Soliai, NT, Utah
Soliai competes versus M. Stanley as a back-up to Fergy.
Round 7
A. Nate Ilaoa, RB, Hawaii
Robert Newhouse's stature. He appears to have some receiving skills as well. I don't know if he lasts this long, but I thought I'd throw him in here.
B. J. Ford, LB, Central Arkansas
Again, this may be too late for him. But basically taking another LB prospect who Wade can groom for his defense.
C. M. Allan, TE, Whitworth
Had 53 receptions for 1,100 yards for a 20.8 avg (and 9 TDs). Maybe could also be used as an H-Back?
Feedback welcome.
Not sure if several of these players will last this long, but please feel free to give alternatives.
RealCowboyfan
02-28-2007, 09:27 AM
Not bad. :bow:
austintodallas
02-28-2007, 09:30 AM
I like the Round 1 pick but Round 2 not so much. I don't think we need another OLB with Ellis, Carpenter, Ware, and Burnett.
philo beddoe
02-28-2007, 09:35 AM
have some down time before FA begins?
Two Major Assumptions:
1. We re-sign Colombo, and
2. We sign an OG in FA
Round 1
C. Houston, CB, Arkansas (alt. A. Ross, CB, Texas)
Round 2
L. Woodley, OLB, Michigan
Woodley would play OLB in Wade's 34
Round 3
A. Allison, WR, E. Carolina (alt. P. Williams, WR or S. Smith, WR USC)
Round 4
Doug Free, OT, N. Illinois
Free would be groomed to play LT and would provide some depth along with McQuisten. Think Free could also play either OT position, giving us some versatility.
Round 5
J. Beck, QB, BYU
Beck would be brought along slowly, like Romo. Hopefully, we pick up a solid veteran QB in FA for Beck to learn from.
Round 6
A. M Wrotto, OG, Georgia Tech
Wrotto needs development work at OG, but he has the tools. Assuming we sign an OG in FA, Wrotto could be given a year or two to improve his skills.
B. P. Soliai, NT, Utah
Soliai competes versus M. Stanley as a back-up to Fergy.
Round 7
A. Nate Ilaoa, RB, Hawaii
Robert Newhouse's stature. He appears to have some receiving skills as well. I don't know if he lasts this long, but I thought I'd throw him in here.
B. J. Ford, LB, Central Arkansas
Again, this may be too late for him. But basically taking another LB prospect who Wade can groom for his defense.
C. M. Allan, TE, Whitworth
Had 53 receptions for 1,100 yards for a 20.8 avg (and 9 TDs). Maybe could also be used as an H-Back?
Feedback welcome.
Not sure if several of these players will last this long, but please feel free to give alternatives.
Will Beck last until the 5th round?!!
Woods
02-28-2007, 09:38 AM
Will Beck last until the 5th round?!!
Not sure, but after the top 3, it's anybody's guess.
BrAinPaiNt
02-28-2007, 09:39 AM
Round 7
A. Nate Ilaoa, RB, Hawaii
Robert Newhouse's stature. He appears to have some receiving skills as well. I don't know if he lasts this long, but I thought I'd throw him in here.
I love that pick.
Only got to see him play a couple of times but boy was he impressive.
Looked like a cannon ball.
And with picking him with one of 3 7th round picks it is not much of a risk to see what he could do for us. No I have no illusions he would be a future full time starter but still I bet he would become a fan favorite if he got a few touches here and there.
PullMyFinger
02-28-2007, 09:43 AM
Round 5
J. Beck, QB, BYU
Beck would be brought along slowly, like Romo. Hopefully, we pick up a solid veteran QB in FA for Beck to learn from.
Id love this pick, but he wont be there in 5, book it.
dbair1967
02-28-2007, 09:45 AM
I think Jones just said the other day they were leaning towards leaving Henry at CB, which to me means there is no way our 1st rd pick with be a CB
David
Woods
02-28-2007, 09:49 AM
I think Jones just said the other day they were leaning towards leaving Henry at CB, which to me means there is no way our 1st rd pick with be a CB
David
I must have missed that comment by JJ. Don't remember him alluding to that at all.
Alexander
02-28-2007, 09:51 AM
That would be an outstanding draft. Then I would wake up from my dream.
Alexander
02-28-2007, 09:51 AM
I must have missed that comment by JJ. Don't remember him alluding to that at all.
He mentioned we would not rule it out, but it was not definite.
carphalen5150
02-28-2007, 09:53 AM
Looks good except for round one. I'd rather have Hughes or Revis. My first preference is Reggie Nelson, as I feel he could play CB in the NFL.
I like the Woodley pick alot as well.
adamknite
02-28-2007, 10:18 AM
I'd like to get a receiver in the second round and LB in the third, but other than that not bad at all.
theogt
02-28-2007, 10:58 AM
Looks damn good to me. I'd be very pleased. Maybe exchange Houston for one of the other CBs, it's whatever.
Hostile
02-28-2007, 11:25 AM
have some down time before FA begins?
Two Major Assumptions:
1. We re-sign Colombo, and
2. We sign an OG in FA
Round 1
C. Houston, CB, Arkansas (alt. A. Ross, CB, Texas)
Round 2
L. Woodley, OLB, Michigan
Woodley would play OLB in Wade's 34
Round 3
A. Allison, WR, E. Carolina (alt. P. Williams, WR or S. Smith, WR USC)
Round 4
Doug Free, OT, N. Illinois
Free would be groomed to play LT and would provide some depth along with McQuisten. Think Free could also play either OT position, giving us some versatility.
Round 5
J. Beck, QB, BYU
Beck would be brought along slowly, like Romo. Hopefully, we pick up a solid veteran QB in FA for Beck to learn from.
Round 6
A. M Wrotto, OG, Georgia Tech
Wrotto needs development work at OG, but he has the tools. Assuming we sign an OG in FA, Wrotto could be given a year or two to improve his skills.
B. P. Soliai, NT, Utah
Soliai competes versus M. Stanley as a back-up to Fergy.
Round 7
A. Nate Ilaoa, RB, Hawaii
Robert Newhouse's stature. He appears to have some receiving skills as well. I don't know if he lasts this long, but I thought I'd throw him in here.
B. J. Ford, LB, Central Arkansas
Again, this may be too late for him. But basically taking another LB prospect who Wade can groom for his defense.
C. M. Allan, TE, Whitworth
Had 53 receptions for 1,100 yards for a 20.8 avg (and 9 TDs). Maybe could also be used as an H-Back?
Feedback welcome.
Not sure if several of these players will last this long, but please feel free to give alternatives.I would fall down and worship you to assure this.
Woods
02-28-2007, 11:40 AM
I would fall down and worship you to assure this.
I think the first 3 picks are definitely plausible.
Woodley is apparently falling a little bit because he didn't do much at the Combine in terms of running, drills, etc.
In the 1st, I'd think that either one of the two CBs I mentioned would be there.
And in the 3rd, several good WRs should be around.
It gets a bit hairy Day 2, IMO.
adamknite
02-28-2007, 11:46 AM
I think the first 3 picks are definitely plausible.
Woodley is apparently falling a little bit because he didn't do much at the Combine in terms of running, drills, etc.
In the 1st, I'd think that either one of the two CBs I mentioned would be there.
And in the 3rd, several good WRs should be around.
It gets a bit hairy Day 2, IMO.
Yeah day 2 of the NFL draft is pretty much teams just taking whoever they want, not thinking too much about draft position. It is a lot harder to try and guess who teams are going to take day 2 IMO, it's a mess.
dbair1967
02-28-2007, 12:24 PM
I must have missed that comment by JJ. Don't remember him alluding to that at all.
It was Monday I think...was probably in both Dallas papers
David
CrazyCowboy
02-28-2007, 12:28 PM
That is a very good job drafting........interesting.
dogunwo
02-28-2007, 12:46 PM
I think Jones just said the other day they were leaning towards leaving Henry at CB, which to me means there is no way our 1st rd pick with be a CB
David
I dont see that as being the case. Aaron Glenn is the ageless wonder but it has to end somewhere. A rookie can play the third or fourth corner and be slowly moving up the depth chart. If you are picking 22, you pick the best person on your board regardless of position.
theogt
02-28-2007, 12:47 PM
It was Monday I think...was probably in both Dallas papers
DavidI missed it as well. A link would be awesome.
BrAinPaiNt
02-28-2007, 02:32 PM
If you come up with your own mock draft please post it in this thread. Which also means if you just post a mock for the cowboys first 3 picks.
If you post it elsewhere chances are it will get merged to this thread.
Thanks
smarta5150
02-28-2007, 02:34 PM
All I am mocking is the talk of drafting a FS in the 1st (:puke:)
BrAinPaiNt
02-28-2007, 02:41 PM
All I am mocking is the talk of drafting a FS in the 1st (:puke:)
You will like it.
And if we take someone else at another position you will like that as well.
So let it be written, so let it be done.
:p: ;)
Bob Sacamano
02-28-2007, 03:18 PM
what happened to the draft zone?
Woods
02-28-2007, 03:19 PM
If you come up with your own mock draft please post it in this thread. Which also means if you just post a mock for the cowboys first 3 picks.
If you post it elsewhere chances are it will get merged to this thread.
Thanks
Can you merge my mock into this thread? Thanks very much.
Sam I Am
02-28-2007, 03:24 PM
http://coco.raceme.org/films/mycousinvinny/images/cousinvinny_025.jpg
Are you mocking me?
Bob Sacamano
02-28-2007, 03:32 PM
I like it alot, very similar to how I would do it
one problem I see is Whitworth stands a good chance of being taken before the 7th, he ran really well for a player of his girth, and that draft could work even if we don't re-sign Columbo, just move McQ to RT, and we can still develop Free as the LT
Bob Sacamano
02-28-2007, 03:34 PM
I think Jones just said the other day they were leaning towards leaving Henry at CB, which to me means there is no way our 1st rd pick with be a CB
David
unless Dallas is going to cut TO and/or Glenn, we don't have much need for a WR in the 1st either
just something to think about :D
dbair1967
02-28-2007, 03:36 PM
unless Dallas is going to cut TO and/or Glenn, we don't have much need for a WR in the 1st either
just something to think about :D
well both have unresolved roster bonus issues (large amounts as well)...both are coming off some injury...both are over 30
Henry was dinged up some, otherwise the above doesnt apply to our starting CB's
David
Woods
02-28-2007, 03:42 PM
well both have unresolved roster bonus issues (large amounts as well)...both are coming off some injury...both are over 30
Henry was dinged up some, otherwise the above doesnt apply to our starting CB's
David
My thinking was a top flight CB would give us a lot of options.
If Henry gets dinged up again (it's been 2 consecutive years running now), we'd have a replacement. Or, if the rookie can come in and play right away, we could always move Henry to FS, for example.
Also, this is probably Glenn's final year as our nickel CB (I'm guessing) given his age. So, we'd have some options in place for that contingency as well.
I just think that given this is such a deep WR class, a good one could be had (and developed) later on in the Draft.
Bob Sacamano
02-28-2007, 03:45 PM
interesting #s on Aundre Allison
from the #s I have here, so far he had the fastest 10-yard and 20-yard dash times of the WRs
10-yard: 1.43
20-yard: 2.46
that's in addition to his 4.39 40 and 10'07" broad-jump, as well as catching everything in sight in drills
Bob Sacamano
02-28-2007, 03:45 PM
My thinking was a top flight CB would give us a lot of options.
If Henry gets dinged up again (it's been 2 consecutive years running now), we'd have a replacement. Or, if the rookie can come in and play right away, we could always move Henry to FS, for example.
Also, this is probably Glenn's final year as our nickel CB (I'm guessing) given his age. So, we'd have some options in place for that contingency as well.
I just think that given this is such a deep WR class, a good one could be had (and developed) later on in the Draft.
plus if we're going to be using Newman in the slot, we're going to need a more physical corner than Aaron Glenn outside
StanleySpadowski
02-28-2007, 03:46 PM
I doubt that Allan will be around in the seventh. I've never seen him play but there were supposedly a few people scrambling for Whitworth tapes after he had one of the better combines amongst the TEs.
Woods
02-28-2007, 03:56 PM
I doubt that Allan will be around in the seventh. I've never seen him play but there were supposedly a few people scrambling for Whitworth tapes after he had one of the better combines amongst the TEs.
As an alternative, maybe K. Boss out of W. Oregon?
dbair1967
02-28-2007, 03:57 PM
plus if we're going to be using Newman in the slot, we're going to need a more physical corner than Aaron Glenn outside
I doubt we see Newman wasting away on 3rd and 4th WR's who line up in the slot anymore
the boneheads that were responsible for that are gone
David
dalboy
02-28-2007, 04:06 PM
"For the 22 pick of the draft the cowboys choose Micheal Griffen out of University of Texas"
Bob Sacamano
02-28-2007, 04:14 PM
in the 2006 NFL Draft
Dallas selects
Michael Huff
dalboy
02-28-2007, 04:31 PM
Did we move Henry to safety cause if we didn't then we have to either draft a safety or a wide reciver in the first round.
WoodysGirl
02-28-2007, 04:31 PM
what happened to the draft zone?
You can post mocks here or in the draft zone. If you post them in the draft zone, they'll stay there with no problem. If you post them anywhere in the Fan Zone other than this thread, it'll be merged into this thread.
adamknite
02-28-2007, 04:34 PM
Did we move Henry to safety cause if we didn't then we have to either draft a safety or a wide reciver in the first round.
No we haven't. Also, I think Pat Watkins is our FS.
dalboy
02-28-2007, 04:35 PM
No i was saying in his future draft thing not in real life.
adamknite
02-28-2007, 04:37 PM
No i was saying in his future draft thing not in real life.
I know, and I ment, I think Pat Watkins is our FS... so we don't need to draft another one. Meaning, I want Pat Watkins at FS not somebody else. I think that was my fault for the confusion there. My Bad.
Clove
02-28-2007, 04:42 PM
have some down time before FA begins?
Two Major Assumptions:
1. We re-sign Colombo, and
2. We sign an OG in FA
Round 1
C. Houston, CB, Arkansas (alt. A. Ross, CB, Texas)
Round 2
L. Woodley, OLB, Michigan
Woodley would play OLB in Wade's 34
Round 3
A. Allison, WR, E. Carolina (alt. P. Williams, WR or S. Smith, WR USC)
Round 4
Doug Free, OT, N. Illinois
Free would be groomed to play LT and would provide some depth along with McQuisten. Think Free could also play either OT position, giving us some versatility.
Round 5
J. Beck, QB, BYU
Beck would be brought along slowly, like Romo. Hopefully, we pick up a solid veteran QB in FA for Beck to learn from.
Round 6
A. M Wrotto, OG, Georgia Tech
Wrotto needs development work at OG, but he has the tools. Assuming we sign an OG in FA, Wrotto could be given a year or two to improve his skills.
B. P. Soliai, NT, Utah
Soliai competes versus M. Stanley as a back-up to Fergy.
Round 7
A. Nate Ilaoa, RB, Hawaii
Robert Newhouse's stature. He appears to have some receiving skills as well. I don't know if he lasts this long, but I thought I'd throw him in here.
B. J. Ford, LB, Central Arkansas
Again, this may be too late for him. But basically taking another LB prospect who Wade can groom for his defense.
C. M. Allan, TE, Whitworth
Had 53 receptions for 1,100 yards for a 20.8 avg (and 9 TDs). Maybe could also be used as an H-Back?
Feedback welcome.
Not sure if several of these players will last this long, but please feel free to give alternatives.You wouldn't happen to have the measurables and combine times of these players, or if anyone could post them?
Bob Sacamano
02-28-2007, 04:45 PM
You wouldn't happen to have the measurables and combine times of these players, or if anyone could post them?
I just posted Allison's
off the top of the dome, Houston ran a 4.32, benched 225, 27 times, had a 4.12 short-shuttle, 33 inch vert, 10'07" broad jump
Woodley didn't work out
Beck had the 2nd fastest RPMs or whatever of the QBs, 61.5, or 62, it was
Ialoha ran a slow 40 time, in the 4.7, nearly 4.8 range
Doug Free weighed in at 323, and ran a 5.2, or was it 320, 5.23? can't remember
Woods
02-28-2007, 04:54 PM
You wouldn't happen to have the measurables and combine times of these players, or if anyone could post them?
I don't have the official Combine numbers for Wrotto, but he's about 6' 3", weighs 317 lbs and 5.37 40.
As for P. Soliai, he around 6' 4", 344 lbs, 5.14 40.
I got those from Nfldraftcountdown.com.
You can add that to Summer's info.
Clove
02-28-2007, 05:07 PM
Thank ya'll very much. I've not done my research on players like I did last year, so that was a huge help.
Sandyf
02-28-2007, 05:17 PM
1. Oakland Raiders - Calvin Johnson WR Georgia Tech
2. Arizona Cardinals - (trade with Detroit) Joe Thomas OT Wisconsin
3. Miami Dolphins - (trade with Cleveland) JaMarcus Russell QB LSU
4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Gaines Adams DE Clemson
5. Detroit Loins - Alan Branch DT Michigan
6. Atlanta Falcons - (trade w/Washington) Laron Landry S LSU
7. Buffalo Bills - (trade w/Minnesota) Adrian Peterson RB Oklahoma
8. Washington Redskins - Omobi Okoye DT Louisville
9. Cleveland - Brady Quinn QB Notre Dame
10. New England Patriots - (trade w/Houston) Patrick Willis ILB Mississippi
11. San Francisco 49ers - Dwayne Jarrett WR USC
12. Minnesota Vikings - Adam Carriker DE Nebraska
13. St. Louis Rams - Leon Hall CB Michigan
14. Carolina Panthers - Greg Olsen TE Miami
15. Pittsburgh Steelers - Darrelle Revis CB Pittsburgh
16. Green Bay Packers - Cal RB Marshawn Lynch
17. Jacksonville Jaguars - Reggie Nelson S Florida
18. Cincinnati Bengals - Ted Ginn, Jr. WR Ohio St.
19. San Diego Chargers - (trade w/Tennessee) Dwayne Bowe WR LSU
20. New York Giants - Levi Brown OT Penn St.
21. Denver Broncos - Jamaal Anderson DE Arkansas
22. Indianapolis Colts - (trade w/Dallas) Lawrence Timmmons LB Florida St.
23. Kansas City Chiefs - Robert Meachem WR Tennessee
24. Houston Texans - Joe Staley OT Central Michigan
25. New York Jets - Aaron Ross CB Texas
26. Philadelphia Eagles - Chris Houston CB Arkansas
27. New Orleans Saints - Steve Smith WR USC
28. Houston Texans - Justin Harrell DT Tennessee
29. Baltimore Ravens - Tony Ugoh OT Arkansas
30. Tennessee Titans - Ray McDonald DE Florida
31. Chicago Bears - Ben Grubbs OG Auburn
32. Dallas Cowboys - Michael Griffin CB Texas
Bob Sacamano
02-28-2007, 09:06 PM
His workout at the Combine should tell you one thing. Even if the numbers don't scare you.
He wasn't prepared for a very big event in relation to his career.
I'd want nothing to do with him for that simple fact.
That is what people lose perspective about the workouts.
The best rise to the occasion. If he's the best, he should have been prepared. Or been like many others, skip the workouts so you can weigh things in your favor.
The fact he participated and was a joke, that is not something to simply wave off.
he had like a 12" vert
dalboy
03-01-2007, 08:12 AM
Wouldn't mind that but I would like to see
FA: Resign Colombo at RT, sign L. Davis at RG or Dielman at LG move Kosier to RG, sign Joey Harrington as Backup QB
Trades: give 22 to Kansas City for Jared Allen DE, trade Spears to Cleveland for a 2nd and 3rd and 5th
2. Jarvis Moss OLB Florida
2. Marcus McCauley CB Fresno St.
3. Brian Leonard FB Rutgers
3. Manuel Ramirez OG Texas Tech
4. Paul Soliai NT Utah
5. Mike Otto OT Purdue
5. Jeff Rowe QB Nevada
6 Zak DeOssie ILB Brown
7. Jacoby Jones WR Lane
7. Jacob Ford DE/OLB Central Arkansas
7. Craig Dahl S Norh Dakota St.
7. Will get an extra with compensary pick Selvin Young RB Texas
Never Never Never Never Never trade SPEARS he has been good and he will be good.
theogt
03-01-2007, 11:44 AM
Wouldn't mind that but I would like to see
FA: Resign Colombo at RT, sign L. Davis at RG or Dielman at LG move Kosier to RG, sign Joey Harrington as Backup QB
Trades: give 22 to Kansas City for Jared Allen DE, trade Spears to Cleveland for a 2nd and 3rd and 5th
2. Jarvis Moss OLB Florida
2. Marcus McCauley CB Fresno St.
3. Brian Leonard FB Rutgers
3. Manuel Ramirez OG Texas Tech
4. Paul Soliai NT Utah
5. Mike Otto OT Purdue
5. Jeff Rowe QB Nevada
6 Zak DeOssie ILB Brown
7. Jacoby Jones WR Lane
7. Jacob Ford DE/OLB Central Arkansas
7. Craig Dahl S Norh Dakota St.
7. Will get an extra with compensary pick Selvin Young RB TexasThis is a prime example of a ridiculous "Madden-inspired" fan proposal. My goodness, where do these people get these laughable ideas?
smarta5150
03-01-2007, 02:17 PM
So you are saying Spears isnt worth a 2nd, 3rd, and a 5th at this time in his career?!?! LOL
LatinMind
03-01-2007, 10:50 PM
1. Raiders - Jamarcus Russell QB LSU
2. Lions - Bradie Quinn QB ND
3. Browns - Adrian Peterson RB Okl
4. Bucs - Joe Thomas T Wisc
5. Cardinals - Jamaal Anderson DE Ark
6. Deadskins - Alan Branch DT Mich
7. Vikings - Calvin Johnson WR GT
8. Texans - Robert Meacham WR Tenn
9. Dolphins - Gains Adams - DE Clem
10. Falcons - Amobi Okoye DT L'ville
11. Niners - Reggie Nelson S Florida
12. Bills - Levi Brown T PSU
13. Rams - Laron Landry S LSU
14. Panthers - Greg Olson TE Tha U
15. Steelers - Jarvis Moss OLB Florida
16. Packers - Ted Ginn Jr WR OSU
17. Jaguars - Darrelle Revis CB Pitt
18. Bengals - Adam Carriker DE Neb
19. Titans - Dwayne Jarrett WR USC
20. Giants - Jon Beason OLB Tha U
21. Broncos - Charles Johnson DE Georgia
22. DALLAS COWBOYS - LEON HALL CB MICH
23. Cheifs - Dwayne Bowe Wr LSU
24. Patriots - Patrick Willis LB Miss
25. Jets - Chris Houston CB Ark
26. Eagles - Lawrence Timmons LB FSU
27. Saints - Paul Posluszny LB PSU
28. Patriots - Michael Griffin S Texas
29. Ravens - Sidney Rice WR SC
30. Chargers - Marcus McCauley CB Fresno State
31. Bears - Justin Blaylok G Texas
32. Colts - Zak De'Ossie ILB Brown
Round 2 COWBOYS
KYLE YOUNG C/G FRESNO STATE
Round 3 COWBOYS
BRIAN ROBISON OLB TEXAS
Round 4 COWBOYS
STEVE SMITH WR USC
theogt
03-01-2007, 10:52 PM
Looks good except I'd take a WR in the 2nd, especially if we get a guard in FA.
LatinMind
03-01-2007, 10:54 PM
Looks good except I'd take a WR in the 2nd, especially if we get a guard in FA.
i dont think there will be wr's worthy at the bottom half of the 2nd.
u have jason hill and gonzalez i think both are gone.
carphalen5150
03-01-2007, 10:56 PM
22...Reggie Nelson--I like this guy the best of all the FS in the draft. This does not mean the end of Watkins either as I think Nelson is athletic enough to play CB as well. Henry might shift to FS, he might not, but either way I would feel good about Nelson in the fold.
53...Quentin Moses--Ellis is a huge question mark coming back, even with him healthy we need all the pass rushers we can get. He will not be an instant starter, but in a couple years with him and Ware on the edges that is something to give opposing teams nightmares.
87...Steve Smith--I think this guy can contribute immediately in the NFL, but probably will not here due to the depth we have. Still though WR is a big needs IMO and getting Smith here would be a steal. I see him as a poor man's Marvin Harrison...great route runner, good hands, and very smooth.
theogt
03-01-2007, 10:59 PM
i dont think there will be wr's worthy at the bottom half of the 2nd.
u have jason hill and gonzalez i think both are gone.I dunno. Some of these guys have to slip. I don't see 6+ WRs being taken in the first 50 picks or so.
Oh, and I just noticed...why the hell do you have DeOssie going in the 1st round? That's crazy. The guy had an incredible combine, but there's no way he goes in the 1st.
And you don't even have Marshawn Lynch in the first. That's quite a wacky mock.
LatinMind
03-01-2007, 11:01 PM
I dunno. Some of these guys have to slip. I don't see 6+ WRs being taken in the first 50 picks or so.
Oh, and I just notice...why the hell do you have DeOssie going in the 1st round? That's crazy. The guy had an incredible combine, but there's no way he goes in the 1st.
And you don't even have Marshawn Lynch in the first. That's quite a wacky mock.
his size and actually the guy has had a monster offseason started with the allstar games he dominated. it might be a reach a little as he's now on some ranking as a rd 2 guy. remember the colts run defense? they need a big tough gritty guy in the middle and de'ossie is that
LatinMind
03-01-2007, 11:02 PM
and i was going to put lynch in for the hets but they might need defense. but if he was going to be picked in the 1st i think it would def be to the jets
theogt
03-01-2007, 11:02 PM
his size and actually the guy has had a monster offseason started with the allstar games he dominated. it might be a reach a little as he's now on some ranking as a rd 2 guy. remember the colts run defense? they need a big tough gritty guy in the middle and de'ossie is thatWho jumped him up to the 2nd? I can see him going late 2nd to the Patriots, but that's a reach. You can get him cheaper.
theogt
03-01-2007, 11:03 PM
and i was going to put lynch in for the hets but they might need defense. but if he was going to be picked in the 1st i think it would def be to the jetsIf Lynch falls to us and we pass on him that would be a bit disappointing.
The Realist
03-01-2007, 11:03 PM
1. Raiders - Jamarcus Russell QB LSU
2. Lions - Bradie Quinn QB ND
3. Browns - Adrian Peterson RB Okl
4. Bucs - Joe Thomas T Wisc
5. Cardinals - Jamaal Anderson DE Ark
6. Deadskins - Alan Branch DT Mich
7. Vikings - Calvin Johnson WR GT
8. Texans - Robert Meacham WR Tenn
9. Dolphins - Gains Adams - DE Clem
10. Falcons - Amobi Okoye DT L'ville
11. Niners - Reggie Nelson S Florida
12. Bills - Levi Brown T PSU
13. Rams - Laron Landry S LSU
14. Panthers - Greg Olson TE Tha U
15. Steelers - Jarvis Moss OLB Florida
16. Packers - Ted Ginn Jr WR OSU
17. Jaguars - Darrelle Revis CB Pitt
18. Bengals - Adam Carriker DE Neb
19. Titans - Dwayne Jarrett WR USC
20. Giants - Jon Beason OLB Tha U
21. Broncos - Charles Johnson DE Georgia
22. DALLAS COWBOYS - LEON HALL CB MICH
23. Cheifs - Dwayne Bowe Wr LSU
24. Patriots - Patrick Willis LB Miss
25. Jets - Chris Houston CB Ark
26. Eagles - Lawrence Timmons LB FSU
27. Saints - Paul Posluszny LB PSU
28. Patriots - Michael Griffin S Texas
29. Ravens - Sidney Rice WR SC
30. Chargers - Marcus McCauley CB Fresno State
31. Bears - Justin Blaylok G Texas
32. Colts - Zak De'Ossie ILB Brown
Round 2 COWBOYS
KYLE YOUNG C/G FRESNO STATE
Round 3 COWBOYS
BRIAN ROBISON OLB TEXAS
Round 4 COWBOYS
STEVE SMITH WR USC
Kyle Young 5-7 if drafted.
Suspended 4 games and not invited to combine.
LatinMind
03-01-2007, 11:04 PM
Who jumped him up to the 2nd? I can see him going late 2nd to the Patriots, but that's a reach. You can get him cheaper.
watch every yr a guy makes a big jump. 2 weeks before the draft alot of draft gurus had ware in the 2nd rd. 5 days before the draft he jumped to dallas pick. i know this because i was all over that ware pick. from the moment college season finished i called that pick but i had it round 2. then all of the sudden he jumped. was like whoa.
LatinMind
03-01-2007, 11:05 PM
Kyle Young 5-7 if drafted.
Suspended 4 games and not invited to combine.
proday will be the best center, and top 3 guard in the draft. mark it down.
theogt
03-01-2007, 11:06 PM
watch every yr a guy makes a big jump. 2 weeks before the draft alot of draft gurus had ware in the 2nd rd. 5 days before the draft he jumped to dallas pick. i know this because i was all over that ware pick. from the moment college season finished i called that pick but i had it round 2. then all of the sudden he jumped. was like whoa.Ok, but who has him ranked as a 2nd now?
LatinMind
03-01-2007, 11:09 PM
Ok, but who has him ranked as a 2nd now?
it was posted on here in a article a couple days ago. i remember reading it. i dont think he's worth it. but in todays game it seems size and speed and what u do at the combine count for alot. dont count it out. who thought last yr whitner was going to go 8th?
theogt
03-01-2007, 11:10 PM
it was posted on here in a article a couple days ago. i remember reading it. i dont think he's worth it. but in todays game it seems size and speed and what u do at the combine count for alot. dont count it out. who thought last yr whitner was going to go 8th?I posted the other day that the Patriots might take him as high as the 2nd, but that was just speculation. Maybe that's where you read it. ;)
LatinMind
03-01-2007, 11:10 PM
I posted the other day that the Patriots might take him as high as the 2nd, but that was just speculation. Maybe that's where you read it. ;)
i know the difference between a article and post. and in noway will i ever mistaken your posts for a article:laugh2:
theogt
03-01-2007, 11:12 PM
i know the difference between a article and post. and in noway will i ever mistaken your posts for a article:laugh2:Of course. Mine are usually too informative to be confused for a journalist's work.
LatinMind
03-01-2007, 11:12 PM
Of course. Mine are usually too informative to be confused for a journalist's work.
i was going to put paul williams in the 4th rd but i dont want to be called the homer of homers lol
cowboysfan31
03-01-2007, 11:14 PM
I'd be pretty happy with that, though after Hall ran a 4.39 I don't think he'll be around that long.
LatinMind
03-01-2007, 11:17 PM
I'd be pretty happy with that, though after Hall ran a 4.39 I don't think he'll be around that long.
i did this mock based on more needs rather then BPA. if teams are filling needs more then BPA this yr it could happen that way. big if
Jake0
03-02-2007, 12:59 AM
Don't see how Calvin drops to 7, just impossible with his world class talent. Teams that are fine at WR will even get him. Really though... Joe Thomas over Calvin.. just can't see it.
I'd be fine with Hall though if he drops that far. Hall/Houston/Meachem/Ginn, one of those and I'd have no quarrels.
LatinMind
03-02-2007, 01:00 AM
Don't see how Calvin drops to 7, just impossible with his world class talent. Teams that are fine at WR will even get him. Really though... Joe Thomas over Calvin.. just can't see it.
i do know that the bucs released their starting right tackle right?
theogt
03-02-2007, 01:05 AM
Don't see how Calvin drops to 7, just impossible with his world class talent. Teams that are fine at WR will even get him. Really though... Joe Thomas over Calvin.. just can't see it.
I'd be fine with Hall though if he drops that far. Hall/Houston/Meachem/Ginn, one of those and I'd have no quarrels.Of course there's no way he'd get past 3rd or 4th. If he did make it to 5th teams would be scrambling to trade up. Even if a trade couldn't be set up, the Redskins wouldn't be dumb enough to pass.
LatinMind
03-02-2007, 01:08 AM
Of course there's no way he'd get past 3rd or 4th. If he did make it to 5th teams would be scrambling to trade up. Even if a trade couldn't be set up, the Redskins wouldn't be dumb enough to pass.
as bad as the run defense was? alan branch is a lock for the deadskins. not to mention they have something like 70 mil? invested in 3 wrs? i might be wrong. but moss 30+ mil wasnt el's contract in the 30 mil range and brandons? 15?
theogt
03-02-2007, 01:15 AM
as bad as the run defense was? alan branch is a lock for the deadskins. not to mention they have something like 70 mil? invested in 3 wrs? i might be wrong. but moss 30+ mil wasnt el's contract in the 30 mil range and brandons? 15?Total contract numbers are meaningless.
LatinMind
03-02-2007, 01:24 AM
Total contract numbers are meaningless.
well their signing bonuses arent. el and moss have big ones.
carphalen5150
03-02-2007, 01:39 AM
1. Raiders - Jamarcus Russell QB LSU
2. Lions - Bradie Quinn QB ND
3. Browns - Adrian Peterson RB Okl
4. Bucs - Joe Thomas T Wisc
5. Cardinals - Jamaal Anderson DE Ark
6. Deadskins - Alan Branch DT Mich
7. Vikings - Calvin Johnson WR GT
8. Texans - Robert Meacham WR Tenn
9. Dolphins - Gains Adams - DE Clem
10. Falcons - Amobi Okoye DT L'ville
11. Niners - Reggie Nelson S Florida
12. Bills - Levi Brown T PSU
13. Rams - Laron Landry S LSU
14. Panthers - Greg Olson TE Tha U
15. Steelers - Jarvis Moss OLB Florida
16. Packers - Ted Ginn Jr WR OSU
17. Jaguars - Darrelle Revis CB Pitt
18. Bengals - Adam Carriker DE Neb
19. Titans - Dwayne Jarrett WR USC
20. Giants - Jon Beason OLB Tha U
21. Broncos - Charles Johnson DE Georgia
22. DALLAS COWBOYS - LEON HALL CB MICH
23. Cheifs - Dwayne Bowe Wr LSU
24. Patriots - Patrick Willis LB Miss
25. Jets - Chris Houston CB Ark
26. Eagles - Lawrence Timmons LB FSU
27. Saints - Paul Posluszny LB PSU
28. Patriots - Michael Griffin S Texas
29. Ravens - Sidney Rice WR SC
30. Chargers - Marcus McCauley CB Fresno State
31. Bears - Justin Blaylok G Texas
32. Colts - Zak De'Ossie ILB Brown
Round 2 COWBOYS
KYLE YOUNG C/G FRESNO STATE
Round 3 COWBOYS
BRIAN ROBISON OLB TEXAS
Round 4 COWBOYS
STEVE SMITH WR USC
Some good stuff on here, but Johnson is not going to last until 7, doubt very much that Meachem goes that high, Olsen is way too high, Deossie will be lucky to be taken in the 3rd, and Marshawn Lynch not going in the first is ridiculous.
LatinMind
03-02-2007, 01:41 AM
Some good stuff on here, but Johnson is not going to last until 7, doubt very much that Meachem goes that high, Olsen is way too high, Deossie will be lucky to be taken in the 3rd, and Marshawn Lynch not going in the first is ridiculous.
i knew everybody wouldnt like my mock. but i learned from last yr anything can happen. i'd like to see every draft "guru" mock and i bet u they struck out on maybe 65-70% of the picks last yr.when i mean guru i mean people that get paid for stuff like this.
theogt
03-02-2007, 01:44 AM
i knew everybody wouldnt like my mock. but i learned from last yr anything can happen. i'd like to see every draft "guru" mock and i bet u they struck out on maybe 65-70% of the picks last yr.when i mean guru i mean people that get paid for stuff like this.http://www.thehuddlereport.com/top100/index.shtml
carphalen5150
03-02-2007, 01:44 AM
i knew everybody wouldnt like my mock. but i learned from last yr anything can happen. i'd like to see every draft "guru" mock and i bet u they struck out on maybe 65-70% of the picks last yr.when i mean guru i mean people that get paid for stuff like this.
Deossie though...I mean he does not even fit the mold of what the Colts do. Not only that, but there is no way he even touches the 2nd, let alone the first.
LatinMind
03-02-2007, 01:46 AM
Deossie though...I mean he does not even fit the mold of what the Colts do. Not only that, but there is no way he even touches the 2nd, let alone the first.
actually he does. remember when they put rob morris in? their defense started to stop the run. they released morrison. even if they dont pick him in the 1st whcih probably wont happen. i can see him landing in indy
LatinMind
03-02-2007, 01:48 AM
http://www.thehuddlereport.com/top100/index.shtml
does this look like 87%?
1. Houston - Reggie Bush - HB - Southern California
Comment: Best offensive player on the board
2. New Orleans - Mario Williams - DE - North Carolina State
Comment: Best defensive player on the board
3. Tennessee - Vince Young - QB - Texas
Comment: Houston owner, Houston quarterback
4. N.Y. Jets - Matt Leinart - QB - Southern California
Comment: Giants have Manning, Jets need a headliner, too
5. Green Bay - A.J. Hawk - LB - Ohio State
Comment: Safest pick on the draft board
6. San Francisco - Vernon Davis - TE - Maryland
Comment: His 4.38 speed can stretch defenses
7. Oakland - Michael Huff - S - Texas
Comment: The Raiders need a defensive playmaker
8. Buffalo - D'Brickashaw Ferguson - OT - Virginia
Comment: Bills allowed 43 sacks in 2005
9. Detroit - Brodrick Bunkley - DT - Florida State
Comment: Active nose tackle in Warren Sapp mold
10. Arizona - Jay Cutler - QB - Vanderbilt
Comment: Kurt Warner not getting any younger
11. St. Louis - Jimmy Williams - CB - Virginia Tech
Comment: Rams need a shut-down corner
12. Cleveland - Ernie Sims - LB - Florida State
Comment: Browns need defensive playmakers
13. Baltimore - Haloti Ngata - DT - Oregon
Comment: The Ravens never did replace Tony Siragusa
14. Philadelphia - Jonathan Joseph - CB - South Carolina
Comment: NFC East loaded with giant receivers
15. Denver - Laurence Maroney - HB - Minnesota
Comment: Broncos cut leading rusher Mike Anderson
16. Miami - Chad Greenway - LB - Minnesota
Comment: Dolphins need more athletic linebackers
17. Minnesota - Demeco Ryans - LB - Alabama
Comment:Vikings need linebackers, period
18. Dallas - Manny Lawson - DE - North Carolina State
Comment: A pass rusher to complement DeMarcus Ware
19. San Diego - Antonio Cromartie - CB - Florida State
Comment: NFL's 28th-ranked pass defense needs help
20. Kansas City - Kamerion Wimbley - DE - Florida State
Comment: Wimbley is from down the road in Wichita
21. New England - Bobby Carpenter - LB - Ohio State
Comment: Pats draft a Mike Vrabel clone
22. San Francisco - Santonio Holmes - WR - Ohio State
Comment: His 4.34 speed also stretches defenses
23. Tampa Bay - Winston Justice - OT - Southern California
Comment: Bucs allowed 41 sacks last year
24. Cincinnati - Tye Hill - CB - Clemson
Comment: NFL's 26th-ranked pass defense gets help
25. N.Y. Giants - Donte Whitner - S - Ohio State
Comment: Giants need a playmaker at back end
26. Chicago - Jason Allen - S - Tennessee
Comment: Chicago's historical credo – Defense first
27. Carolina - LenDale White - HB - Southern California
Comment: Panthers replace Stephen Davis
28. Jacksonville - Nick Mangold - C - Ohio State
Comment: Toughens up one of NFL's best lines
29. N.Y. Jets - DeAngelo Williams - HB - Memphis
Comment: Curtis Martin has lost a step
30. Indianapolis - Joe Addai - HB - LSU
Comment: The Colts need to replace Edgerrin James
31. Seattle - Chad Jackson - WR - Florida
Comment: Another WR named Jackson from Florida
32. Pittsburgh - Tamba Hali - DE - Penn State
Comment: NFL champions add Big Ten sack leader
theogt
03-02-2007, 01:49 AM
I don't think you're reading that site correctly.
LatinMind
03-02-2007, 01:50 AM
lol im taking u didnt see last yr podcast by DMN where jerry basically shut rick G up on basically everything rick said? by the end of the show rick wasnt even talking anymore
theogt
03-02-2007, 01:52 AM
lol im taking u didnt see last yr podcast by DMN where jerry basically shut rick G up on basically everything rick said? by the end of the show rick wasnt even talking anymoreI don't understand how that affects the emperical data showing that he's historically the most accurate.
LatinMind
03-02-2007, 01:52 AM
I don't think you're reading that site correctly.
it said gosselin got 87 of the first 100 right? i counted over 20 wrong guesses in the first round alone. sorry buddy
theogt
03-02-2007, 01:54 AM
it said gosselin got 87 of the first 100 right? i counted over 20 wrong guesses in the first round alone. sorry buddyAgain, you're misreading the site.
It is written in plain English:
The number of top 100 prospects actually picked in the first 100 picks of Draft
LatinMind
03-02-2007, 01:57 AM
i knew everybody wouldnt like my mock. but i learned from last yr anything can happen. i'd like to see every draft "guru" mock and i bet u they struck out on maybe 65-70% of the picks last yr.when i mean guru i mean people that get paid for stuff like this.
theogt, read this. it said 65-70% of these draft gurus were wrong in their picks mock picks. just like rick G. not how many had them in the top 100. and how many got picked in the top 100. that mock draft i showed u was gosselins last yr. and as u can plainly see he didnt do a very good job.
stay to the topic or dont participate lol
theogt
03-02-2007, 02:00 AM
theogt, read this. it said 65-70% of these draft gurus were wrong in their picks mock picks. just like rick G. not how many had them in the top 100. and how many got picked in the top 100. that mock draft i showed u was gosselins last yr. and as u can plainly see he didnt do a very good job.
stay to the topic or dont participate lolI understand what you said. I simply posted a site that has some information on the accuracy of so-called experts. I didn't say it proved or disproved your claim. You should read more carefully.
By the way, the site has more information than just the percentage of top 100 picks that were predicted correctly.
LatinMind
03-02-2007, 02:01 AM
gosselin had jimmy williams going at 11 but ended up getting picked at 37. lol would you call that a good pick?
theogt
03-02-2007, 02:02 AM
gosselin had jimmy williams going at 11 but ended up getting picked at 37. lol would you call that a good pick?No, I would call that a bad pick. What's your point?
LatinMind
03-02-2007, 02:03 AM
No, I would call that a bad pick. What's your point?
meaning he's not really as accurate as u think he is. its all a guessing game. sometimes the sun shines on his *** but most of the time he strikes out like everybody else.
theogt
03-02-2007, 02:05 AM
meaning he's not really as accurate as u think he is. its all a guessing game. sometimes the sun shines on his *** but most of the time he strikes out like everybody else.Where did I claim how accurate he was? He is, according to that site, the most accurate, however.
LatinMind
03-02-2007, 02:06 AM
Where did I claim how accurate he was? He is, according to that site, the most accurate, however.
lol then why argue something u dont believe? waste of your time if u ask me. especially if u dont buy it
theogt
03-02-2007, 02:07 AM
lol then why argue something u dont believe? waste of your time if u ask me. especially if u dont buy itAre you drunk? You made a series of incorrect statements in this thread and I simply corrected you. Misunderstanding simple statements seems to be a chronic problem that you have.
diehard2294
03-02-2007, 05:07 AM
no way nelson goes 11, or Johnson drops to 7 :eek:
LatinMind
03-02-2007, 05:18 AM
no way nelson goes 11, or Johnson drops to 7 :eek:
lol damn u would think i would get more arguements about hall dropping to dallas instead of calvin dropping to 7
CrazyCowboy
03-02-2007, 06:35 AM
These Mocks are fun to look at.
I hope we take a WR with the 1st pk
Oh_Canada
03-02-2007, 07:49 AM
22...Reggie Nelson--I like this guy the best of all the FS in the draft. This does not mean the end of Watkins either as I think Nelson is athletic enough to play CB as well. Henry might shift to FS, he might not, but either way I would feel good about Nelson in the fold.
53...Quentin Moses--Ellis is a huge question mark coming back, even with him healthy we need all the pass rushers we can get. He will not be an instant starter, but in a couple years with him and Ware on the edges that is something to give opposing teams nightmares.
87...Steve Smith--I think this guy can contribute immediately in the NFL, but probably will not here due to the depth we have. Still though WR is a big needs IMO and getting Smith here would be a steal. I see him as a poor man's Marvin Harrison...great route runner, good hands, and very smooth.
Thinking along the same lines...
1.Reggie Nelson--For the exact same reasons as Carphalen. His versatility is the reason I would take him.
2.Jason Hill--Unbelivable effort at the combine and his production in college can't be ignored.
3.Brian Robison--Great motor,very good physical tools and a nice bookend for Ware.
4.Andy Alleman--This pick would depend on what Cowboys do in FA. This guy is going to play in the league a long time however...very athletic and a strong kid. Doug Free is another option.
theogt
03-06-2007, 01:48 PM
NFLDraftScout.com
Team Report
1 *JaMarcus Russell QB LSU The Raiders released Aaron Brooks and then lost out on free agent Jeff Garcia, leaving a gaping need at quarterback. Russell is more of a project than Brady Quinn, but his size and amazingly strong arm make him a better fit for the deep passing attack preferred by the Raiders.
Team Report
2 Brady Quinn QB Notre Dame Just to be clear, Jon Kitna was not the problem with the Lions' offense in 2006. Of course, neither is he the long-term answer. Quinn could be a star in Mike Martz's offense after sitting and watching for a season. In filling needs through trade and free agency, the Lions have also put themselves in an enviable position to auction this pick.
Team Report
3 *Adrian Peterson RB Okla Just who the Browns prefer between Joe Thomas and Peterson, if both are available here, figures to be one of the more intriguing decisions early in the draft. Thomas makes a lot of sense, but the team needs to improve quickly to save coach Romeo Crennel's job. Peterson might be the draft's most immediate impact player, but his lack of durability has to be a concern for a seemingly snake-bitten franchise.
Team Report
4 *Calvin Johnson WR Georgia Tech If Johnson, arguably the draft's top prospect, is available, offensive-minded Bucs coach Jon Gruden won't hesitate to make him the pick.
Team Report
5 Joe Thomas OT Wisconsin After losing Leonard Davis in free agency, this is a huge area of need for the Cardinals. And if Thomas falls into their lap, the team's representative may be caught doing back-flips en route to handing the selection card to the commissioner.
Team Report
6 *Alan Branch DT Michigan The Redskins' lack of a pass rush last season belied the fact that there is some outside speed on this team. What is lacking, however, is an interior run-stuffer.
Team Report
7 Gaines Adams DE Clemson Kenechi Udeze managed to start all 16 games at defensive end last season for Minnesota without producing a single sack. Adams posted 12.5 last season, despite being the focus of every opponent's blocking scheme.
Team Report
8 Levi Brown OT Penn St Rookie Charles Spencer looked like a future standout left tackle before suffering a terrible knee injury last year that some feel is career-threatening. The Texans made the mistake of relying on veterans returning from injury last season and bypassed Reggie Bush. They won't make the same mistake twice.
Team Report
9 Amobi Okoye DT Louisville With reigning Defensive MVP Jason Taylor, the defensive line wouldn't appear to be an area of need for the Dolphins. That said, the team traded Dan Wilkinson and Keith Traylor is a free agent. The Dolphins would like to get younger along the defensive line and Okoye is continuing to move up the board after impressing everyone at the Combine.
Team Report
10 LaRon Landry FS LSU The Falcons' safety tandem of Chris Crocker and Lawyer Milloy was one of the league's worst in 2007, especially with Crocker struggling mightily against the pass. LaRon's older brother, Dawan, was a fourth-round pick for the Ravens last year and made an immediate impact on one of the best defenses in the league. LaRon is even more talented.
Team Report
11 Patrick Willis ILB Ole Miss In filling numerous needs through free agency, the 49ers put themselves in great position here to take the best available player. Willis likely emerged as a legitimate top 15 pick with his standout performance at the Senior Bowl and Combine.
Team Report
12 Leon Hall CB Michigan The Bills will be looking for reinforcements at cornerback after losing Nate Clements in free agency. By answering questions about his speed at the Combine with a 4.39-second 40-yard dash, Hall may have vaulted back atop the cornerback rankings on many teams' boards.
Team Report
13 *Jamaal Anderson DE Ark The Rams added James Hall in a trade with Detroit, but they aren't done seeking help opposite Leonard Little. Anderson, a former receiver turned 6-6, 270-pound terror, has too much upside to let fall any further.
Team Report
14 *Greg Olsen TE Miami The Panthers have been looking for a top flight tight end for several years. Starter Kris Mangum retired and top backup Michael Gaines remains a project as a receiver. Olsen's spectacular Combine performance likely solidified his position as a mid first-round pick.
Team Report
15 Adam Carriker DE Nebraska Carriker, arguably the Senior Bowl's most dominant defender, is versatile enough to help regardless of new coach Mike Tomlin's defensive plan. Carriker is athletic enough to play inside and tough enough to slide inside in some schemes.
Team Report
16 Dwayne Bowe WR LSU Donald Driver continues to be Green Bay's only consistent receiving threat, and at 32 years old the team must plan for the future. Greg Jennings flashed early as a rookie, but his production tailed off in part to injuries. Bowe, the most impressive skill position player at the Senior Bowl, is a perfect fit in the West Coast Offense.
Team Report
17 *Reggie Nelson FS Florida The Jags will be looking help at safety with FS Deon Grant a free agent and SS Donovin Darius finishing each of the past two seasons on injured reserve. No safety made more game-changing plays last year than Nelson. The All-American recovered a fumble, blocked two kicks and intercepted six passes for the national champions, and has been compared to Pro Bowler Brian Dawkins. Jacksonville would be wise to keep him in state.
Team Report
18 *Jarvis Moss DE Florida Moss, long compared to former Titan star Jevon Kearse, is the type of versatile athlete the Bengals need on defense. Cincinnati kept Justin Smith with the franchise tag, but Moss could help fill the void left by injured David Pollack as an end who could see time at outside linebacker.
Team Report
19 *Robert Meachem WR Tennessee Having a potentially great quarterback with no receivers is kind of like having a Ferrari with no gas. Meachem has the size (6-2, 214) and speed (4.39 at Combine) to stretch defenses deep, opening more room underneath for Vince Young to operate.
Team Report
20 *Marshawn Lynch RB Cal The Giants said they are leaving no stone unturned in their search for Tiki Barber's replacement, even inquiring about the availability of Buffalo's Willis McGahee. Should they resort to the draft, Lynch makes sense due to his natural running and receiving skills.
Team Report
21 Aaron Ross CB Texas The Broncos traded for Dre Bly, but they're also in the enviable position of going for the best talent available because they have very few holes remaining. Ross, the 2006 Thorpe Award winner, has the speed and playmaking skills to be a Pro Bowl-caliber cover man down the road.
Team Report
22 Brandon Meriweather FS Miami Off-field red flags will be enough to scare off some teams, but the Cowboys have always shown a willingness to gamble on greatness. Due to the press given to LaRon Landry and Reggie Nelson, Meriweather doesn't always get his due, but the former Hurricane is among this draft's top defenders and would fill a huge need as a coverage safety to pair with Roy Williams.
Team Report
23 *Dwayne Jarrett WR USC The Chiefs' once-potent offense has steadily declined in production each of the past two years. The Chiefs could look at a variety of prospects here, including help for their aging offensive line, but Jarrett possesses the size coach Herm Edwards prefers at the position and would be a significant upgrade to their current receiving corps.
Team Report
24 *Darrelle Revis CB Pitt With questions about his pure speed arising, the Patriots could be in position to fortify their depth at cornerback with the falling Revis. Revis can pop back up to the top of the cornerback class with an impressive showing at his Pro Day, but scouts are questioning why he didn't run at the Combine, and for now, at least, are dropping Revis.
Team Report
25 Anthony Spencer DE Purdue The 3-4 defense has gained in popularity due to the explosive pass rush provided from its outside linebackers. Spencer may be the draft's best overall pass rusher, but his lack of prototype size (6-3, 261) may drop him down the board and leave him best suited as a 3-4 OLB.
Team Report
26 Paul Posluszny OLB Penn St The Eagles' run defense dropped to 26th in the league last year, giving up an average of 136.4 yards per game. Despite media speculation that he is dropping down the board, scouts insist the former Penn State star remains a viable first-round prospect. Posluszny's instincts and versatility make him one of the better linebackers available.
Team Report
27 *Chris Houston CB Ark The Saints' clear priority this off-season is to improve their defensive back seven. Mike McKenzie is a solid veteran, but Fred Thomas was continuously torched late last season. Houston's spectacular showing at the Combine likely cemented him in the draft's first round.
Team Report
28 Justin Blalock OG Texas With two first-round picks, the Patriots are looking for depth. Blalock, a four-year starter with experience at guard and tackle, would provide flexibility for a team that prides itself on versatility.
Team Report
29 *Michael Bush RB Louisville The release of Jamal Lewis was characterized as a salary cap move -- and he might eventually re-sign -- but since rushing for a staggering 2,066 yards in 2003, Lewis has averaged only 3.7 yards per carry. Bush, a 6-2, 243-pound bruiser with surprising agility, wasn't able to workout at the Combine due to his recovery from a broken leg suffered in Louisville's first game last season. That said, some feel he could have emerged as a top 10 prospect had he not suffered the injury.
Team Report
30 *Ted Ginn Jr. WR Ohio St While Ginn is certainly explosive, he is viewed as more of a return threat who can help as a receiver rather than a receiver who can help as a returner due to his less than reliable route running and hands. Ginn is viewed by some as luxury pick, and with few holes the Chargers are in position to add just such a player.
Team Report
31 Ben Grubbs OG Auburn Three of Chicago's five starting linemen are over the age of 30, with guard Ruben Brown (34) the elder statesman. The Bears also lack quality depth along the line. Grubbs emerged as one of the draft's top guards with a stellar season and Senior Bowl.
Team Report
32 *Lawrence Timmons OLB Florida St With Cato June and Rob Morris unrestricted free agents, the Colts will likely be looking at linebackers with the final pick of the first round. Timmons left FSU after only starting one season, but what a season it was: 79 tackles, 5.0 sacks, 18 tackles for loss, two blocked kicks and returned touchdowns on an interception, fumble recovery and blocked punt.
theogt
03-06-2007, 01:49 PM
FootballsFuture.com
1. Oakland - JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU
The talent and potential is too much for Al Davis to pass on.
2. Detroit - Joe Thomas, OT, Wisconsin
Put on a show at the combine, improving his stock, even though he was already the favorite at this spot.
3. Cleveland - Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma
With Thomas off the board, the pick is easy. They need a ground game to compliment the pass catchers in Winslow and Edwards.
4. Tampa Bay - Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech
A freak and the best player in the draft. A steal at this point.
5. Arizona - Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson
The Cards will try to move up for Thomas but the price will be extremely high and probably too much.
6. Washington - Alan Branch, DT, Michigan
Anderson may get some consideration, but the Skins take the wide body to plug the middle.
7. Minnesota - Jamaal Anderson, DE, Arkansas
His pass rush ability would be a welcomed addition.
8. Houston - LaRon Landry, S, LSU
Blew up at the combines and cemented himself as the top safety in the draft.
9. Miami - Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame
A steal at this point, and with the uncertainty around Culpepper, the Phins may need to take a QB.
10. Atlanta - Amobi Okoye, DT, Louisville
Great player now, and isn’t even 20 yet.
11. San Francisco - Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraska
Too high at this point, but the defensive line has to be addressed.
12. Buffalo - Leon Hall, CB, Michigan
Clements is gone and they have to find someone to fill in immediately.
13. St. Louis - Pat Willis, LB, Ole Miss
Stud linebacker could play strong side or mike.
14. Carolina - Reggie Nelson, S, Florida
Stud ballhawk would be great in deep coverage.
15. Pittsburgh - Paul Posluszny, LB, Penn St.
With the release of Porter, the Steelers could use a boost to the LB corp.
16. Green Bay - Robert Meachem, WR, Tennessee
His combine performance may have pushed him ahead of Jarrett and Ginn.
17. Jacksonville - Ted Ginn, WR, Ohio St.
His speed would add another element to the offense.
18. Cincinnati - Greg Olsen, TE, Miami
Combine performance has him soaring up the boards and a big target over the middle would only open things up more for the rest of the offense.
19. Tennessee - Darrelle Revis, CB, Pitt
Could be the first corner taken if he works out well at the Pitt pro day.
20. N.Y. Giants - Levi Brown, OT, Penn St.
An upgrade at tackle needs to be found, and Brown is excellent value at this point.
21. Denver - Marshawn Lynch, RB, Cal
Lynch could flourish in the Denver offense.
22. Dallas - Brandon Meriweather, S, Miami
Could form the best safety duo in the NFL.
23. Kansas City - Dwayne Jarrett, WR, USC
The Chiefs finally land a go to target.
24. New England (from Sea) - Chris Houston, CB, Arkansas
The signing of Adalius Thomas addressed the biggest need, but you can never have enough secondary help.
25. N.Y. Jets - DeMarcus Tyler, DT, North Carolina St.
Tyler has the frame and strength to develop into a nose tackle.
26. Philadelphia - Jon Beason, LB, Miami
Solid showing at the combine coupled with some lesser performances by other LBs may have moved Beason into the first.
27. New Orleans - Aaron Ross, CB, Texas
The Saints must address their secondary if they want to take the next step.
28. New England - Michael Griffin, S, Texas
The upgrade of the defense continues.
29. Baltimore - Justin Blalock, OL, Texas
Would come in and immediately upgrade the interior OL.
30. San Diego - David Harris, LB, Michigan
Surprised some with his footspeed in Indy and has now moved into the #2 ILB spot.
31. Chicago - Tony Ugoh, OT, Arkansas
Fred Miller is aging, and whoever the QB is will need to be protected.
32. Indianapolis - Lawrence Timmons, LB, Florida St.
A little shorter than expected but still flies to the football, which is a perfect fit for the Colts defense.
Bob Sacamano
03-06-2007, 02:02 PM
I know for a fact we won't be drafting Merriweather w/ Ireland just saying the other day that character plays a major role in who they pick
Woods
03-06-2007, 05:14 PM
I know for a fact we won't be drafting Merriweather w/ Ireland just saying the other day that character plays a major role in who they pick
There is absolutely no need for us to take a risk like that, especially in the 1st round.
No to Merriweather.
smarta5150
03-06-2007, 05:15 PM
There is absolutely no need for us to take a risk like that, especially in the 1st round.
No to Merriweather.
No to safety.
Goldenrichards83
03-06-2007, 06:24 PM
How about this:
Trade down for a early 2nd and extra 3rd and we take:
2nd Ben Grubbs
2nd Eric Wright
3rd Brian Robison
3rd Aundrae Allison
theogt
03-06-2007, 06:39 PM
How about this:
Trade down for a early 2nd and extra 3rd and we take:
2nd Ben Grubbs
2nd Eric Wright
3rd Brian Robison
3rd Aundrae AllisonWhy draft a guard high when we've got two pretty good ones locked up long term?
I like Robison, but we'd probably have to take him in the 2nd.
danny0812
03-07-2007, 12:09 PM
i dont believe id mind seeing Levi Brown come to town on the first day. I believe this guy can be a stud on the OL for quite awhile.
Position:T (http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/2007_profiles.cfm?pos=T)School & Year/Status:Penn State (http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profiles_by_team.cfm?school=Penn State) - SeniorHeight & Weight:6'5 - 325 lbs.
Scouting Report
Brown is an enormous specimen at 6'5" and 325 pounds. As one would expect from an offensive of that tackle magnitude, Brown is already an outstanding run blocker and will immediately boost the running efforts of whichever team selects him. A pretty good athlete, especially for someone of his stature, Brown should be able to develop into a fine pass blocker as well, sooner rather than later. Word out of the Senior Bowl is that Brown has been beating speed rushers to the outside and dominating anyone who attempts to bull-rush him. NFL scouts will also love the fact that Brown is arguably the most experienced player in the 2007 draft. After taking a redshirt in 2002, Brown started all 12 games as a freshman the following year and has been the stalwart of the Penn State offensive line ever since. He will be able to play either tackle or guard at the next level. If Brown keeps up his fine form, look for him to crack the top 20 on draft day.
danny0812
03-07-2007, 12:36 PM
14, 168, 1
that's the receptions, yards and TDs given up by Chris Houston against Dwayne Jarrett, Dwayne Bowe and Robert Meachem combined
How bout the 10 receptions he gave up against South Carolina?
DezBRomo9
03-08-2007, 09:14 AM
Just picked up the Lindy's Draft Guide.....
1-22. Ted Ginn Jr. WR Ohio St.
2-54. AJ Davis CB NC State
BTW, Meacham and Houston are still on the board, whereas Merriweather is the only safety not taken yet.
In the second. Tanard Jackson (CB) and Tank Tyler (DT) are still on the board.
Pottsville Maroons
03-08-2007, 09:38 AM
GMjr.com 3 Rd Mock Draft Last Updated on Thursday, March 08th, 2007.
1 Raiders JaMarcus Russell QB
Raiders love both Calvin Johnson and JaMarcus Russell, but know that they need a QB to start the re-building process.
2 Lions Joe Thomas T
Even after trading for OT George Foster, Lions still draft Joe Thomas with the idea that they will still try and trade Foster before draft.
3 Browns Adrian Peterson RB
Browns go back and forth between Quinn, Peterson and Johnson, but take chance on Peterson despite his history of injuries.
4 Buccaneers Calvin Johnson WR
Bucs debate taking DT Okoye to fill their biggest need, but Gruden can't pass on chance to take freak receiver Johnson.
5 Cardinals Gaines Adams DE
Cardinals are not desperate for a DE, but Adams gives them a potential game changing DE so they cannot afford to pass him up.
6 Redskins Alan Branch DT
The Skins were hoping Adams would slip to them, but with him gone they take Branch to clog the middle even though most have Okoye rated higher.
7 Vikings Leon Hall CB
Vikings need help at receiver and cornerback and after Hall's outstanding combine workout and their loss of CB Smoot, they take Hall.
8 Texans Brady Quinn QB
After declaring that they are listening to offers for Carr and not being able to trade for Plummer, the Texans draft a QB of the future for the 2nd time.
9 Dolphins LaRon Landry DS
Dolphins consider reaching for OT Levi Brown, but play it safe and take top safety Landry hoping that Brown slips to them in 2nd round.
10 Falcons Jamaal Anderson DE
Falcons need to replace Patrick Kerney and Anderson gives them a big, strong and athletic DE for the future.
11 49ers Ted Ginn Jr WR
49'ers tried to trade up to get NT Branch, but having to stay at 11 they go with the most explosive offensive weapon in Ginn Jr.
12 Bills Patrick Willis LB
After losing London Fletcher-Baker they replace him with Willis who had an outstanding combine workout.
13 Rams Amobi Okoye DT
Rams would prefer not to take another DT in 1st round, but after trading for James Hall they do not need a DE nearly as much.
14 Panthers Greg Olsen TE
While we still feel Miller is the best TE, the Panthers can't get over Olsen's amazing combine workout and they need a weapon at TE.
15 Steelers Charles Johnson DE
As the Steelers make the switch to a 43 defense they need to get one traditional defensive end and Johnson gives them a big, strong and athletic DE.
16 Packers Marshawn Lynch RB
While the Packers claim they are happy with the 3 RBs still on their roster, the chance to add Lynch is too great to pass up.
17 Jaguars Aaron Ross CB
Jaguars were able to sign an OT in free agency, so they do not have to debate and draft Ross.
18 Bengals Jarvis Moss DE
The Bengals biggest problem is their in-ability to pressure the QB consistently and Moss gives them an explosive speed rusher.
19 Titans Dwayne Bowe WR
Titans were hoping that one of the top 4 DE's would make it to them, but with none left they go with the best receiver available in Bowe.
20 Giants Levi Brown OT
Giants were hoping to re-sign Pettigout later in off-season, but once he signed with Tampa Bay they new they needed a LT to have a good 2007 season.
21 Broncos Dwayne Jarrett WR
Shanahan found his running back in Travis Henry and wants to continue to upgrade their offense and they take the tall Jarrett to pair with Walker.
22 Cowboys Reggie Nelson S
Cowboys filled their need for a guard with Leonard Davis, so they fill their next biggest need with a safety after debating between Nelson and Meriweather.
23 Chiefs DeMarcus Tyler DT
Chiefs need to find a way to stop the inside run and after adding MLB N. Harris in free agency, they take Tyler to shore up their DL.
24 Patriots Paul Posluszny LB
Patriots got Adalius Thomas in free agency and now get the ultra intense, strong, instinctive, versatile and tough Posluszny to play inside.
25 Jets Zach Miller TE
After trading for Thomas Jones, the Jets continue revamping their offense with the addition of the best TE in the draft with Z. Miller.
26 Eagles Brandon Meriweather S
Eagles need help on their DL and in the secondary, but Meriweather is the type of player the Eagles love because he consistently makes big plays.
27 Saints Tanard Jackson CB
The need a lot of help on defense and adding the tough and versatile Jackson gives them a lot of options in their secondary.
28 Patriots Tony Ugoh OT
Patriots debate between receiver and offensive line, but the chance to add a very athletic, long armed OT is too much for Belichick.
29 Ravens Antonio Pittman RB
Ravens are trying to sign a back in free agency, but without anything set in stone they draft the under-rated Pittman.
30 Chargers Aundrae Allison WR
Chargers debate between WR Allison and S Rouse, but choose to go with the smooth, athletic and very consistent Allison.
31 Bears Justin Blalock OG
Bears want to add depth in a number of spots, but choose to go with the most athletic offensive linemen still on the board.
32 Colts Jon Beason OLB
Colts will probably lose Cato June in free agency, so they choose to go with under-sized, athletic Beason to replace him.
33 Raiders Ryan Harris T
Harris struggled thru an inconsistent senior season, but he definitely has the athletic ability and smarts to be a solid starter.
34 Lions Justin Durant MLB
Lions desperately need an inside linebacker for their Tampa 2 Defense and Durant fits that role perfectly.
35 Buccaneers Baraka Atkins DL
Bucs need DL help after trading McFarland to Colts and then losing DE White in free agency and Atkins gives them a versatile DL who they can play at either DE or DT.
36 Browns Adam Carriker DE
Browns DL needs a lot of help and Carriker is a perfect fit to play DE in the 34 defense.
37 Bears (From Jets) Robert Meachem WR
Bears' receivers have struggled to consistently produce, but Meachem gives them a big, strong receiver with very good speed.
38 Cardinals Lawrence Timmons OLB
Cardinals have a solid linebacking core, but Timmons gives them a big, strong linebacker who can also rush the passer.
39 Texans Quentin Moses DE
Texans would like to get an OT, but with no elite ones left they gamble with Moses to help their DL pressure the QB.
40 Dolphins Ryan Kalil C
Dolphins debate between reaching for OT Staley, but go with the safer bet in Kalil who they feel can upgrade them at center or guard.
41 Vikings Sidney Rice WR
Vikings need a receiver who can help their offense take the next step and Rice gives them a very talented deep ball receiver.
42 49ers Josh Beekman C
49'ers offensive line really struggled in 2006 and Beekman gives them a strong and athletic linemen who can start at center or guard.
43 Bills Chris Houston CB
Bills need cornerback help after losing Clements and gamble on the short Houston who starred at the combine.
44 Falcons Ben Grubbs OG
Falcons offensive line has really struggled to block consistently and Grubbs gives them a very athletic guard.
45 Panthers Aaron Rouse S
Panthers have been trying to find a safety to pair with Minter and take shot on very athletic Rouse.
46 Steelers Chris Henry RB
Steelers want a big back and while Irons is more explosive, they love the size/speed combination Henry has.
47 Packers Daymeion Hughes CB
Packers get lucky when Hughes falls to them after he did not run well at combine and had to redeem himself at Cal Pro Day.
48 Jaguars Kevin Kolb QB
While the Jags have named Leftwich their 2007 starter, he has not proven himself as the long term answer, so they take chance on Kolb.
49 Bengals Marcus McCauley CB
Bengals take gamble on uber-talented McCauley who struggled thru a bad senior season and senior bowl, but was excellent at combine.
50 Titans Victor Abiamiri DE
The Titans have struggled to pressure the QB recently and Abiamiri gives them a big and very polished defensive end.
51 Giants Eric Wright CB
Giants need a lot of secondary help and because of that are willing to take gamble on UNLV's Wright who started at USC as freshmen.
52 Rams Rufus Alexander OLB
Rams have struggled tremendously on defense and Alexander gives them an under-sized and explosive linebacker.
53 Cowboys Anthony Spencer OLB
Cowboys need a rusher to go opposite Ware as Coach Phillips tries to build a pass rush like he had in San Diego.
54 Chiefs Josh Wilson CB
Chiefs secondary needs a ton of help and they take a gamble on the very athletic, but short Wilson.
55 Seahawks Marcus Thomas DT
Seattle's defensive line needs a lot of help on the inside, so they take a gamble on Thomas.
56 Broncos LaMarr Woodley DE
Broncos tried hard to sign Patrick Kerney, but after losing him to seattle they need a DE, so they go with the super intense Woodley.
57 Eagles Kenneth Irons RB
The Eagles have Westbrook, but they are always looking towwards the future and Irons is a super talented back who has fallen due to his lack of durability.
58 Saints Ray McDonald DL
Saints need help in their interior DL and take gamble that the under-sized McDonald can hold up there long term and be productive.
59 Jets Darrelle Revis CB
Jets need a cornerback to help solidify their secondary and take the slipping Revis.
60 Miami (From Patriots) Jason Hill WR
The Dolphins lost Wes Welker and choose to replace him with Washington State's Jason Hill who blew up the combine.
61 Ravens DeAndre Jackson CB
Ozzie has shown a willingness to gamble on players coming off injuries and Jackson has a lot of upside if he comes back 100%.
62 Chargers Eric Weddle S
Chargers need a safety to pair with McCree after cutting T.Kiel, so they go with the super versatile and ultra tough Weddle.
63 Jets (From Bears) Dan Bazuin DE
Bears go with the super high-motored DE Bazuin because of what they feel he brings to the team on and off the field.
64 Buccaneers Michael Griffin DS
Tampa tried to trade up to get Griffin and get lucky that he slides down into their lap.
65 Oakland Michael Bush RB
Raiders just renegotiated Lamont Jordan's contract, so they can bring Bush along slowly as he works back to 100%.
66 Detroit Michael Coe CB
Lions are playing the Tampa 2 now and Coe fits that style perfectly as he is best on plays in front of him and likes to hit and tackle.
67 Cleveland Tony Franklin DB
Browns desperately need to upgrade their secondary and Franklin gives them a versatile DB who could start at CB or Safety in time.
68 Tampa Bay Stewart Bradley LB
Bucs have a variety of needs (Safety, Guard and Linebacker), but Bradley is the best player at the 3 positions on the board.
69 Arizona Joe Staley OT
Arizona needs help along their offensive line and Staley is a very athletic OT with potential to become a very good linemen in time.
70 Denver (From Washington) James Marten OT
Broncos were debating between Staley and Marten and the Cardinals solved their debate by choosing Staley the pick before them.
71 Miami John Beck QB
Despite their confidence in Culpepper, they believe Beck has the smarts and accuracy to become a good starter in time if Culpepper does not bounce back.
72 Minnesota Ikaika Alama-Francis DE
Even though the Vikings have drafted DL high recently, both Des are overcoming injuries so they take the very raw, but super athletic Alama-Francis.
73 Houston David Irons CB
Texans have struggled to find a corner to play opposite D. Robinson and Irons is the tough, physical corner that would be ideal.
74 Buffalo Brandon Jackson RB
Bills are talking seriously about trading McGahee, so they draft a big back who can be their feature back of the future.
75 Atlanta Anthony Gonzalez WR
Falcons held off drafting a receiver for Vick until the 3rd round, but the under-rated Gonzalez is too good to pass up here.
76 San Francisco Paul Soliai DT
49'ers have struggled to find a strong NT for their 34 defense and while Soliai is raw, he has the size and strength to become very good.
77 Pittsburgh Aaron Sears OG
Steelers have consistently shown a desire to draft offensive linemen early in order to keep their OL playing at a high level despite free agency.
78 Green Bay Ben Patrick TE
Packers need to find a receiving threat as Bubba Franks has not been the consistently productive TE they want.
79 Jacksonville Kevin Payne S
Jags may lose safety Deon Grant in free agency, so adding the tough and very smart Payne gives them a safety who should play sooner than later.
80 Cincinnati NO PICK BENGALS GAVE UP PICK BY TAKING LB AHMAD BROOKS IN SUPP. DRAFT
81 Tennessee Kenneth Darby RB
After cutting Travis Henry and losing Chris Brown in free agency they need a back and the under-rated Darby is still on the board due to a bad 40 time at combine.
82 New York Giants Brian Leonard RB
Giants pick Leonard from their backyard and get a versatile back who can split carries with Jacobs and be a real weapon catching passes out of backfield
83 St. Louis John Wendling DB
Rams take chance on very athletic defensive back Wendling who played safety in college, but is best suited to play corner in the NFL.
84 Carolina Dave Harris ILB
Panthers thought about taking Harris in 2nd round and cannot believe their luck that he is still on the board now.
85 Kansas City Jacoby Jones WR
Chiefs have been trying to find a receiver opposite Kennison for years and take chance on super explosive Jones.
86 Seattle Marshal Yanda OL
Seattle takes Yanda because he brings the athelticism, toughs and competitiveness to eventually start at guard or right tackle.
87 Denver Josh Gattis DS
Broncos are excited to get a tough, hard nosed safety who can be a top teams player right away and eventually start at safety.
88 Dallas David Clowney WR
Cowboys have Owens and Glenn as starters, but take chance on very athletic and fast Clowney for the future.
89 New Orleans Jay Moore DE
Saints have helped their interior DL, but still need some help outside at DE, so they go with Moore who is very similar to former Nebraska DE Chris Kelsay.
90 New York Jets Julius Wilson OL
Jets want to build up their OL after using two #1's on it in 2006 and Wilson gives them an athletic big man who could eventually start at RT or OG.
91 Philadelphia Paul Williams WR
Eagles debate between CB J. Talley and Williams and take chance on super athletic, but wildly inconsistent Williams.
92 New England John Talley CB
Patriots secondary is getting old and Talley gives them a very smart, instinctive and versatile DB who can play corner or safety.
93 Baltimore Drew Stanton QB
The Ravens decided that Boller was not their long term answer when they signed Steve McNair and now take chance that Stanton is the long term answer.
94 San Diego Lyle Sendlein C
Chargers offensive line is solid, but the chance to add the versatile Sendlein who played all along the Texas OL is not something they can pass on.
95 Chicago Brandon MeBane DT
Bears DT position was beaten up by injury, off-field issues and free agency, so they draft MeBane to begin restocking their DTs.
96 Indianapolis Craig Davis WR
Colts realize that Harrison and Wayne are not getting any younger and Davis gives them an explosive receiver/returner.
Bob Sacamano
03-08-2007, 12:43 PM
How bout the 10 receptions he gave up against South Carolina?
every CB has a bad game, only allowing 2 100 yard receivers in 14 games is pretty good though
Bob Sacamano
03-08-2007, 12:43 PM
Just picked up the Lindy's Draft Guide.....
1-22. Ted Ginn Jr. WR Ohio St.
2-54. AJ Davis CB NC State
BTW, Meacham and Houston are still on the board, whereas Merriweather is the only safety not taken yet.
In the second. Tanard Jackson (CB) and Tank Tyler (DT) are still on the board.
I'd rather take Jackson in the 2nd, AJ Davis was getting beat like a drum during Senior Bowl workouts
ABQCOWBOY
03-08-2007, 06:33 PM
Fred Jones of The Huddle Report has an interesting Mock. Don't know that it's been posted but in effect, he gives several options at our current draft spot accompanied by percentage of probability. Here's what he has for us:
1st Rd. Pick 22.
22A Robert Meachum WR (Tenn) 20%
22B Joe Staley OT (Cent. Mich.) 16%
22C Michael Griffin S (Texas) 16%
2nd Rd. Pick 53
53A Tony Ugoh OT (Arkansas) 22%
53B Aaron Rouse S (Virginia Tech.) 18%
53C Ryan Kalil OC (USC) 17%
53D Chris Houston CB (Arkansas) 16%
3rd Rd. Pick 87
87A Manuel Ramirez OG (Texas Tech) 29%
87B Josh Gattis S (Wake Forrest) 22%
87C Stewart Bradley LB (Nebraska) 20%
I don't know that the draft will fall this way but in looking at this Mock, The only players I really don't love are Ugoh and Rouse. Ugoh is OK but I don't know if he's got good enough latteral movement to play RT or enough quickness to play Guard. The guy is powerful though. Rouse I don't love because I don't know if he translates into anything other then a Strong Safety. The guy is 6-4, goes 225 or so and runs a 4.5. He might end up at LB but I don't think he can be a 34 LB. He'd probably work best as a Will in a 43. Guy really should have made more plays at VTech with his kind of skills IMO. Other then that, I like all the rest.
Bob Sacamano
03-08-2007, 09:14 PM
off the top of the dome
1st-Tennessee WR Robert Meachem
2nd-Texas DE/OLB Brian Robison
3rd-Hawaii OG/C Samson Satele
4th-Hampton CB Tavaris Bain
5th-Nebraska RB Brandon Jackson
6th-Nevada QB Jeff Rowe
6th-Oklahoma DE/OLB CJ Ah You
7th-Michigan State DT Clifton Ryan
7th-Texas Tech OT Gabe Hall
7th-Baylor CB Anthony Arline
theogt
03-08-2007, 09:59 PM
off the top of the dome
1st-Tennessee WR Robert Meachem
2nd-Texas DE/OLB Brian Robison
3rd-Auburn CB David Irons
4th-Akron OG Andy Alleman
5th-Nebraska RB Brandon Jackson
6th-Boise State QB Jared Zabransky
6th-Oklahoma DE/OLB CJ Ah You
7th-Michigan State DT Clifton Ryan
7th-Texas Tech OT Gabe Hall
7th-Baylor CB Anthony ArlineLooks pretty good, but I'd switch Alleman for an OT and take a OG/C in the 6th or 7th.
Bob Sacamano
03-08-2007, 10:14 PM
Looks pretty good, but I'd switch Alleman for an OT and take a OG/C in the 6th or 7th.
I edited it
1st-Tennessee WR Robert Meachem
2nd-Texas DE/OLB Brian Robison
3rd-Hawaii OG/C Samson Satele
4th-Hampton CB Tavaris Bain
5th-Nebraska RB Brandon Jackson
6th-Nevada QB Jeff Rowe
6th-Oklahoma DE/OLB CJ Ah You
7th-Michigan State DT Clifton Ryan
7th-Texas Tech OT Gabe Hall
7th-Baylor CB Anthony Arline
theogt
03-08-2007, 11:40 PM
I edited it
1st-Tennessee WR Robert Meachem
2nd-Texas DE/OLB Brian Robison
3rd-Hawaii OG/C Samson Satele
4th-Hampton CB Tavaris Bain
5th-Nebraska RB Brandon Jackson
6th-Nevada QB Jeff Rowe
6th-Oklahoma DE/OLB CJ Ah You
7th-Michigan State DT Clifton Ryan
7th-Texas Tech OT Gabe Hall
7th-Baylor CB Anthony ArlineAgain, I see no reason to get an OG/C that high. Now an OT that high could come in handy next season when Flo is out the door.
YoungBuck
03-08-2007, 11:49 PM
I know for a fact we won't be drafting Merriweather w/ Ireland just saying the other day that character plays a major role in who they pick
Ok....what does that have to do with Merriweather?
I know you'll probably bring up some BS like the FIU thing, so I'll concede that, but outside of that event how has he demonstrated poor character?
Bob Sacamano
03-09-2007, 02:21 PM
Ok....what does that have to do with Merriweather?
I know you'll probably bring up some BS like the FIU thing, so I'll concede that, but outside of that event how has he demonstrated poor character?
that's not BS, that's a violent outburst on the field
just like we probably won't ever be signing Albert Haynesworth, the same applies to drafting Merriweather
IndianaCowboyFan
03-09-2007, 03:47 PM
53 Cowboys Anthony Spencer OLB
Cowboys need a rusher to go opposite Ware as Coach Phillips tries to build a pass rush like he had in San Diego.
At Purdue's Pro Day Friday, where 18 NFL teams watched six Boilermakers work out, Spencer reached his goal, clocking in at an unverified 4.64.
Getting Anthony Spencer at 53 would be a huge gift.
YoungBuck
03-09-2007, 04:24 PM
that's not BS, that's a violent outburst on the field
just like we probably won't ever be signing Albert Haynesworth, the same applies to drafting Merriweather
Apples and Oranges.
Haynsworth was an isolated incident by one player.
Merriweather got caught up in a mele and went after an oppenent that was attacking teammate. Outside of that he's a team leader and active in helping his community.
RealCowboyfan
03-11-2007, 12:16 AM
MY MOCK
1st Pick :: Jarvis Moss OLB/DE or Reggie Nelson FS/CB
2nd Pick :: Aaron House FS/SS or Anthony Spencer DE/OLB
3rd Pick :: Paul Saliai NT Utah or Laurent Robinson WR
1st Day
2nd - tomorrow
bbgun
03-11-2007, 12:24 AM
Promising, but Spencer won't make it to our pick in Round 2.
Big Dakota
03-11-2007, 01:28 AM
MY MOCK
1st Pick :: Jarvis Moss OLB/DE or Reggie Nelson FS/CB
2nd Pick :: Aaron House FS/SS or Anthony Spencer DE/OLB
3rd Pick :: Paul Saliai NT Utah or Laurent Robinson WR
1st Day
2nd - tomorrow
LOL, an either or mock. I love it;)
You mean Aaron Rouse?
I would take either of the first 2 rounds. Nelson/Spencer would be my personal choice. Rouse is a huge risk reward guy. I'll take the "sure thing" in Nelson. I think a WR like Steve Smith might grab me more in the 3rd. I'm a little spooked on Utah NTs after last year.
Deputy493
03-11-2007, 09:13 AM
Promising, but Spencer won't make it to our pick in Round 2.
Then again, we got Witten in the 3rd when he was predicted as a late 1st to early 2nd.........players drop every draft and players get taken much sooner than predicted every draft.
McCordsville Cowboy
03-11-2007, 09:43 AM
MY MOCK
1st Pick :: Jarvis Moss OLB/DE or Reggie Nelson FS/CB
2nd Pick :: Aaron House FS/SS or Anthony Spencer DE/OLB
3rd Pick :: Paul Saliai NT Utah or Laurent Robinson WR
1st Day
2nd - tomorrow
Spencer will be gone in the first round. My guess is the Ravens will pick him in the first round to play SOLB for Adalius Thomas.
big dog cowboy
03-11-2007, 11:17 AM
Then again, we got Witten in the 3rd when he was predicted as a late 1st to early 2nd.........players drop every draft and players get taken much sooner than predicted every draft.
Both happen every year. This draft will be no different. Just last year everyone thought Watkins would be a 3rd rounder and we took him in the first. So players can drop later in the draft as well.
burmafrd
03-11-2007, 11:40 AM
What we do really depends on Wade's thinking about two areas: OLB and FS. Does he like what we have or does he want more? I THINK that he probably will pass on going after a high FS. And with what we have now with Carpenter and Burnett, plus Ellis I think we do not go first day there either.I think a CB makes more sense and gives us more at this time. McCauley or Houston look good- McCauley especially with his size and speed. We need to think of a backup center with promise- to me that is Kyle Young who is big enough to play guard as well. Ginn is a guy who intrigues me with his ability to return; imagine if we could get a guy that gave us what hester gave the bears this year...
Bizwah
03-11-2007, 12:59 PM
fair enough, but the biggest day a WR to gain more than 65 yards on Houston was Sidney Rice
I suggest you take a look at the stats of the Alabama game.
Displaced Cowboy
03-11-2007, 02:52 PM
Apples and Oranges.
Haynsworth was an isolated incident by one player.
Merriweather got caught up in a mele and went after an oppenent that was attacking teammate. Outside of that he's a team leader and active in helping his community.
"Active in helping the community" is that the nice way of saying he returned gunfire on an assailant who had shot his roomate in the ***?
He was just "helping his community".
We don't need anymore gun toting thugs who stomp on people in brawls.
McCordsville Cowboy
03-11-2007, 07:35 PM
"Active in helping the community" is that the nice way of saying he returned gunfire on an assailant who had shot his roomate in the ***?
He was just "helping his community".
We don't need anymore gun toting thugs who stomp on people in brawls.
Sure we do...
We already have one that can't cover...
Might as well have one that can.
marchetta
03-11-2007, 10:02 PM
Brandon Merriweather S Miami
STRENGTHS
Talent-wise, Brandon might be the most talented DB in this draft. He has the size, strength, speed and the burst to play more than one position in the defensive backfield. He is very quick and is a good, strong tackler. He will be an excellent special teams player; in fact, he has the quickness to be a weapon on special teams. He stands up to a challenge and takes pride in his game. Brandon has top ten talent at the safety position and at the CB position -- I’m talking about in zone coverage and man-to-man coverage. He is like a sniper out on the field when he plays the Free Safety position. He will just lay back and wait for the QB to make a mistake and then, like a sniper, he pulls the trigger and goes in for the kill. Brandon Merriweather could be one of the best players in this draft.
NEEDS TO IMPROVE
I call him a sniper because -- well, everyone raise their hand that carries a gun hidden in their pants. Let’s see…one, two, three. That’s it -- just three of you out there! I just have to wonder about what other off field issues we don’t know about that pertain to Brandon or any other Miami players? I guess what is most impressive about Brandon is how he waits for a player to be on the ground (read: defenseless) before he steps on their face with his cleats. I have no doubt that Brandon will convince someone to draft him in this draft. He is what we call a “player” -- a kid that plays on people’s emotions to get them to change their minds about him and his behavior. I can just see Mike Brown and Mike Shanahan in a room interviewing this kid and believing everything they are hearing.
TALENT BOARD ROUND: 7 – Red Flag
Brandon has top ten talent, but that talent is currently married to a brain that is very self-destructive. This is a kid that most likely will be picked in the second round of this draft because some team, no matter how much they tell you that they won’t draft Brandon, will draft him! It’s just that simple! They did it with Maurice and they will do it with Brandon. How many times do I have to tell you that it takes more than talent to play at the next level? Character, intelligence, passion and then, talent are the main ingredients and in that order. If I were to put a number grade on Brandon for each of one of those categories from one to ten (ten being the top score) it would look like this: Character = 0, Intelligence = 0, Passion = 5, Talent = 10. Total = 15 points out of a possible 40 score. Do you think that is enough to draft him? I don’t! But then, that’s just me – a guy who believes that having talent isn’t everything!
- Drew Boylhart (thehuddlereport.com)
McCordsville Cowboy
03-12-2007, 08:17 AM
Brandon Merriweather S Miami
STRENGTHS
Talent-wise, Brandon might be the most talented DB in this draft. He has the size, strength, speed and the burst to play more than one position in the defensive backfield. He is very quick and is a good, strong tackler. He will be an excellent special teams player; in fact, he has the quickness to be a weapon on special teams. He stands up to a challenge and takes pride in his game. Brandon has top ten talent at the safety position and at the CB position -- I’m talking about in zone coverage and man-to-man coverage. He is like a sniper out on the field when he plays the Free Safety position. He will just lay back and wait for the QB to make a mistake and then, like a sniper, he pulls the trigger and goes in for the kill. Brandon Merriweather could be one of the best players in this draft.
NEEDS TO IMPROVE
I call him a sniper because -- well, everyone raise their hand that carries a gun hidden in their pants. Let’s see…one, two, three. That’s it -- just three of you out there! I just have to wonder about what other off field issues we don’t know about that pertain to Brandon or any other Miami players? I guess what is most impressive about Brandon is how he waits for a player to be on the ground (read: defenseless) before he steps on their face with his cleats. I have no doubt that Brandon will convince someone to draft him in this draft. He is what we call a “player” -- a kid that plays on people’s emotions to get them to change their minds about him and his behavior. I can just see Mike Brown and Mike Shanahan in a room interviewing this kid and believing everything they are hearing.
TALENT BOARD ROUND: 7 – Red Flag
Brandon has top ten talent, but that talent is currently married to a brain that is very self-destructive. This is a kid that most likely will be picked in the second round of this draft because some team, no matter how much they tell you that they won’t draft Brandon, will draft him! It’s just that simple! They did it with Maurice and they will do it with Brandon. How many times do I have to tell you that it takes more than talent to play at the next level? Character, intelligence, passion and then, talent are the main ingredients and in that order. If I were to put a number grade on Brandon for each of one of those categories from one to ten (ten being the top score) it would look like this: Character = 0, Intelligence = 0, Passion = 5, Talent = 10. Total = 15 points out of a possible 40 score. Do you think that is enough to draft him? I don’t! But then, that’s just me – a guy who believes that having talent isn’t everything!
- Drew Boylhart (thehuddlereport.com)
Drew Boylhart sounds like a hater to me...... But its a good analysis though.
He will be the 3rd saftey off the board behind Landry and Nelson. He will probably slip to the second round.
Hes right about him being talented though. He is a stud on the field. Although he might be PacMan off of it:(
TheSport78
03-13-2007, 10:14 AM
1. Oakland Raiders- QB JaMarcus Russell: could be Quinn or Calvis Johnson here if Randy Moss is traded..but right now the consensus pick is Russell
2. Detroit Lions- QB Brady Quinn: OK the Lions traded for George Foster from DEN so I believe Joe Thomas is out. Trading down is a possibility also, but they have a chance to get their franchise QB.
3. Cleveland Browns- Adrian Peterson: They signed Jamal Lewis to a 1 year deal and traded away Droughns to NY. They need their 1-2 punch at RB.
4. Tampa Bay Buccanears- WR Calvin Johnson: If you don't know that TB is going to pick Calvin Johnson by now then I'll have Tommy come back there and hit you over the head with a tackhammer b/c you are a retard!
5. Arizona Cardinals- OT Joe Thomas: They need to replace Pro Bowler Leonard Davis (:laugh2: that's a joke).
6. Washington Deadskins- DE Gaines Adams: Didn't really want to include this particular franchise, but oh well. Adams is the best pure pass-rusher in this draft and he's on the board.
7. Minnesota Vikings- DE Jamaal Anderson: The Vikings had no pass-rush last season and Anderson is the best DE available.
8. Houston Texans- OT Levi Brown: If the Texans don't pick Brown here, they better make sure the guys at the morgue can identify the bodies, or QB's, that the Texans go through.
9. Miami Dolphins- DT Alan Branch: Miami will be thrilled that Branch fell this far. Little concern about his work-ethic but he'll be a good fit in Miami's system. Boom or bust.
10. Atlanta Falcons- S LaRon Landry: Man I wish Dallas would trade up to get this guy.
11. San Francisco 49ers- DT Amobi Okoye: WR is a possibility here also, but SF needs that big body for their 3-4 scheme.
12. Buffalo Bills- CB Leon Hall: The Bills could go a number of ways, but they need to replace Clements.
13. St. Louis Rams- LB Paul Posluszny: Could be a little high for him but the Rams need all the help they can get at LB.
14. Carolina Panthers- TE Greg Olsen: This guy is going to be a playmaker in the league.
15. Pittsburgh Steelers- DE Adam Carricker: The Steelers don't know what defensive scheme they're going to run and Carricker can play any position on the defensive line.
16. Green Bay Packers- RB Marshawn Lynch: It's so obvious.
17. Jacksonville Jaguars- FS Reggie Nelson: Losing Deon Grant should make this an easy pick.
18. Cincinnati Bengals- LB Lawrence Timmons: Best LB on the board. CB is a possibility here also.
19. Tennessee Titans- CB Chris Houston: This guy's stock is rising.
20. New York Giants- LB Patrick Willis: With the departure of LaVar Arrington they need a LB. Hopefully he'll turn out to be a Jacob Rogers like-talent.
21. Denver Broncos- DE Anthony Spencer: This seems to be the logical pick.
22. Dallas Cowboys 2007 Super Bowl Champions- DE Jarvis Moss: The Cowboys have an opportunity to take the "best player available." Combine that with a defensive minded coach and you get this physical specimen opposite of DeMarcus Ware. Don't hate on me now. Ellis is coming back from a major injury and Carpenter is going to be moved outside and inside b/c he is versatile. We lost Singleton and Fowler also. Bottom line is that we need a better pass rush.
23. Kansas City Chiefs- WR Ted Ginn Jr.: Please name me the KC WR's if they happen to go 5 wide. Yeah that's what I thought.
24. New England Patriots- CB Aaron Ross: The Pats like the versatility of moving him at CB and S.
25. New York Jets- CB Darrelle Davis: Best CB on the board and it's a need. Nothing to say here.
26. Philadelphia Eagles- S Michael Griffin: They'll need to line someone up opposite of Dawkins. God I hate the Eagles. I think I just got sick.
27. New Orleans Saints- CB Marcus McCauley: :laugh2: Fred Thomas.
28. New England Patriots- DE Charles Johnson: Pats will most definitely trade down since they don't have a 2nd round pick. But since this is without trades, I couldn't think of anyone else.
29. Baltimore Ravens- OG/OT Justin Blaylock: Offensive line was the biggest problem for the Ravens last year. Plus Ogden is getting old.
30. San Diego Chargers- WR Dwayne Bowe: Could be the missing piece to their puzzle.
31. Chicago Bears- OG Ben Grubbs: It's a need. It's that simple.
32. Indianapolis Colts- DT Justin Harrell: Corey Simon turned out to be a great trade didn't it?
Duane
03-13-2007, 10:23 AM
1. Oakland Raiders- QB JaMarcus Russell: could be Quinn or Calvis Johnson here if Randy Moss is traded..but right now the consensus pick is Russell
2. Detroit Lions- QB Brady Quinn: OK the Lions traded for George Foster from DEN so I believe Joe Thomas is out. Trading down is a possibility also, but they have a chance to get their franchise QB.
3. Cleveland Browns- Adrian Peterson: They signed Jamal Lewis to a 1 year deal and traded away Droughns to NY. They need their 1-2 punch at RB.
4. Tampa Bay Buccanears- WR Calvin Johnson: If you don't know that TB is going to pick Calvin Johnson by now then I'll have Tommy come back there and hit you over the head with a tackhammer b/c you are a retard!
5. Arizona Cardinals- OT Joe Thomas: They need to replace Pro Bowler Leonard Davis (:laugh2: that's a joke).
6. Washington Deadskins- DE Gaines Adams: Didn't really want to include this particular franchise, but oh well. Adams is the best pure pass-rusher in this draft and he's on the board.
7. Minnesota Vikings- DE Jamaal Anderson: The Vikings had no pass-rush last season and Anderson is the best DE available.
8. Houston Texans- OT Levi Brown: If the Texans don't pick Brown here, they better make sure the guys at the morgue can identify the bodies, or QB's, that the Texans go through.
9. Miami Dolphins- DT Alan Branch: Miami will be thrilled that Branch fell this far. Little concern about his work-ethic but he'll be a good fit in Miami's system. Boom or bust.
10. Atlanta Falcons- S LaRon Landry: Man I wish Dallas would trade up to get this guy.
11. San Francisco 49ers- DT Amobi Okoye: WR is a possibility here also, but SF needs that big body for their 3-4 scheme.
12. Buffalo Bills- CB Leon Hall: The Bills could go a number of ways, but they need to replace Clements.
13. St. Louis Rams- LB Paul Posluszny: Could be a little high for him but the Rams need all the help they can get at LB.
14. Carolina Panthers- TE Greg Olsen: This guy is going to be a playmaker in the league.
15. Pittsburgh Steelers- DE Adam Carricker: The Steelers don't know what defensive scheme they're going to run and Carricker can play any position on the defensive line.
16. Green Bay Packers- RB Marshawn Lynch: It's so obvious.
17. Jacksonville Jaguars- FS Reggie Nelson: Losing Deon Grant should make this an easy pick.
18. Cincinnati Bengals- LB Lawrence Timmons: Best LB on the board. CB is a possibility here also.
19. Tennessee Titans- CB Chris Houston: This guy's stock is rising.
20. New York Giants- LB Patrick Willis: With the departure of LaVar Arrington they need a LB. Hopefully he'll turn out to be a Jacob Rogers like-talent.
21. Denver Broncos- DE Anthony Spencer: This seems to be the logical pick.
22. Dallas Cowboys 2007 Super Bowl Champions- DE Jarvis Moss: The Cowboys have an opportunity to take the "best player available." Combine that with a defensive minded coach and you get this physical specimen opposite of DeMarcus Ware. Don't hate on me now. Ellis is coming back from a major injury and Carpenter is going to be moved outside and inside b/c he is versatile. We lost Singleton and Fowler also. Bottom line is that we need a better pass rush.
23. Kansas City Chiefs- WR Ted Ginn Jr.: Please name me the KC WR's if they happen to go 5 wide. Yeah that's what I thought.
24. New England Patriots- CB Aaron Ross: The Pats like the versatility of moving him at CB and S.
25. New York Jets- CB Darrelle Davis: Best CB on the board and it's a need. Nothing to say here.
26. Philadelphia Eagles- S Michael Griffin: They'll need to line someone up opposite of Dawkins. God I hate the Eagles. I think I just got sick.
27. New Orleans Saints- CB Marcus McCauley: :laugh2: Fred Thomas.
28. New England Patriots- DE Charles Johnson: Pats will most definitely trade down since they don't have a 2nd round pick. But since this is without trades, I couldn't think of anyone else.
29. Baltimore Ravens- OG/OT Justin Blaylock: Offensive line was the biggest problem for the Ravens last year. Plus Ogden is getting old.
30. San Diego Chargers- WR Dwayne Bowe: Could be the missing piece to their puzzle.
31. Chicago Bears- OG Ben Grubbs: It's a need. It's that simple.
32. Indianapolis Colts- DT Justin Harrell: Corey Simon turned out to be a great trade didn't it?
It's real slow around here but we have an official mock draft thread. :D
adamknite
03-13-2007, 10:24 AM
Ugh..... I'm just not sold on taking another defensive player in the first round. That'd make 6 in 6 years that's a lot of money/picks thrown into defence, I wanna see some offense brought in to be honest with you.
Edit: Also, I don't think the Colts traded for Corey Simon the Eagles released him didn't they? They did trade for McFarland however.
tm1119
03-18-2007, 05:51 PM
Im bored so ill throw my mock here. In my opinion this fills the teams most pressing needs now, while also providing potential for the future. We could even trade down afew spots in the 1st to get Meriweather and pick up an exta 4th or so.
Round 1- Brandon Meriweather S Miami
Round 2- Quentin Moses DE/OLB Florida
Round 3- Jacoby Jones WR Lane
Round 4- Tarell Brown CB Tex
Round 5- Paul Soliai NT Utah
Round 6- Leroy Harris C NC St
Round 6- Le'ron McClain FB Alabama
Round 7- BPA
Round 7- BPA
Round 7- BPA
jobberone
03-18-2007, 06:57 PM
I don't know why anyone would be upset w/ drafting a crazy athletic, shutdown corner
There is nothing wrong with drafting a shutdown corner with your first pick.
Not everyone is enamored with him though. He has been placed in the high bust box by some. And for good reasons.
He's small as well.
We need to stay conservative and pick players who have been productive in large programs. We don't need to show everyone how brilliant we are by picking work out warriors who are one year wonders and have been relatively unproductive otherwise.
I'm not saying he won't be great. He has potential. I'd like to stay more conservative with our first day picks.
We cannot afford to miss as much as in the past. The above formula is not a sure fire method. It's just more proven than other ways.
Sorry to be so late with the reply.
acruther
03-24-2007, 09:27 AM
1st - Joe Staley (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ot/joestaley.html), OT - Flo's future replacement is big, strong, and fast - that's right fast. The guy had one less bench press rep than Joe Thomas, and runs a 4.75 forty. Imagine, another lineman who can pull. With Staley onboard, our line suddenly gets a lot younger with Staley, Gurode, Kosier, and LD all signed to long-term deals and Columbo to get a long-term deal if he plays in 2007 as he did in 2006.
2nd - Jason Hill (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/wr/jasonhill.html), WR - 4.3 speed, decent size, good route running ability, great atheleticism, and great hands. This guy is kind of being forgotten about lately, but he was a very productive player in college and projects well to the pros. Hill has the skills to perhaps - perhaps - develop into a #1 player in this league, but would be brought along slowly behind the big 3 WRs currently on the roster.
3rd - Paul Soliali (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/nflcombineprofile.php?pyid=14827), DT - big space eater to back up Fergie. Projects as a great 3-4 NT prospect.
4th - Zak DeOssie (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ilb/zakdeossie.html), OLB - 6'4", 250, 4.6 speed. Sounds like a 3-4 OLB to me! The guy also is a long snapper. LP has been a good long snapper, but he is a wasted roster spot at present.
Bob Sacamano
03-31-2007, 07:47 PM
1. Oakland Raiders - LSU QB JaMarcus Russell
2. Detroit Lions - Notre Dame QB Brady Quinn
3. Cleveland Browns - Wisconsin OT Joe Thomas
4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Georgia Tech WR Calvin Johnson
5. Arizona Cardinals - Clemson DE Gaines Adams
6. Washington Redskins - Louisville DT Omobi Okoye
7. Minnesota Vikings - Michigan CB Leon Hall
8. Atlanta Falcons (via Houston) - LSU DB Laron Landry
9. Miami Dolphins - Michigan DT Alan Branch
10. Houston Texans (via Atlanta) - Oklahoma RB Adrian Peterson
11. San Francisco 49ers - Nebraska DE Adam Carriker
12. Buffalo Bills - Penn State OT Levi Brown
13. St. Louis Rams - Pittsburgh CB Darrelle Revis
14. Carolina Panthers - Ole Miss LB Patrick Willis
15. Pittsburgh Steelers - Florida DE Jarvis Moss
16. Green Bay Packers - Cal RB Marshawn Lynch
17. Jacksonville Jaguars - Arkansas DE Jamaal Anderson
18. Cincinnati Bengals - Miami TE Greg Olsen
19. Tennessee Titans - LSU WR Dwayne Bowe
20. New York Giants - Florida S Reggie Nelson
21. Denver Broncos - Texas S Michael Griffin
22. Dallas Cowboys - Arkansas CB Chris Houston
23. Kansas City Chiefs - Tennessee WR Robert Meachem
24. New England Patriots (via Seattle) - Utah DB Eric Weddle
25. New York Jets - Ohio State WR Ted Ginn Jr
26. Philadelphia Eagles - Central Michigan OT Joe Staley
27. New Orleans Saints - Georgia DE Charles Johnson
28. New England Patriots - Michigan LB David Harris
29. Baltimore Ravens - USC C Ryan Kalil
30. San Diego Chargers - USC WR Steve Smith
31. Chicago Bears - USC WR Dwayne Jarrett
32. Indianapolis Colts - Florida State LB Lawrence Timmons
DezBRomo9
03-31-2007, 07:54 PM
Close but no cigar, IMO Bob. Although I do agree Leon Hall will be off the board, I dont think we would pick Houston over Revis or Hughes.
DezBRomo9
03-31-2007, 07:55 PM
I also dont think the Rams want a CB.....DLine all the way.
Bob Sacamano
03-31-2007, 07:56 PM
Close but no cigar, IMO Bob. Although I do agree Leon Hall will be off the board, I dont think we would pick Houston over Revis or Hughes.
Revis is off the board too at pick 13
Bob Sacamano
03-31-2007, 07:56 PM
I also dont think the Rams want a CB.....DLine all the way.
awesome
DezBRomo9
03-31-2007, 07:58 PM
I saw that after my first post. But well thought out position wise, obviously barring a Oakland or Cleveland trade down, which I think is imminant.
DezBRomo9
03-31-2007, 08:07 PM
And I think NE will be after a CB or a OLineman, although with the Thomas and Stallworth signing, IMO they will be one helluva contender next year IMO.
Bob Sacamano
03-31-2007, 08:11 PM
And I think NE will be after a CB or a OLineman, although with the Thomas and Stallworth signing, IMO they will be one helluva contender next year IMO.
I picked for them Weddle because he's a typical New England player, not the greatest of measurables, although they are good, plus he's a heck of a football player and ball-hawk, plus he has the skills to cover slot receivers
and Harris I chose because he's a productive 3-4 ILB, where they are thin at
DezBRomo9
04-01-2007, 09:22 PM
My Dallas Mock.....
1-22 Dallas trades down with the Chargers after watching players like Landry, Nelson, Merriweather, CJohnson, Bowe and Meachem all get drafted before their turn. Without thinking, they make the trade the Chargers offer because their man is Ted Ginn. We get the 30th, 62nd and 167th picks.
1-30. We select Tank Tyler DT NC State.
When in doubt, take a two gap tackle. Although he wont be leading the league in sacks, he will make Ware do that starting next year. Plus, goaline defense will be stepped up with him and Fergi, along with the ability to rotate and keep Fergi fresh for late in games this year.
2-53. We select Antonio Pittman RB Ohio State.
What?!!!! *** is going on here 90% of the Zone says....and while on the clock Dallas deals Julius for a 2nd rounder in the '08 Draft from the Packers, who didnt select a RB in the first as they wanted to. Pittman is a similar runner to Julius but we will see him succeed moreso with Barber wearing out Defenses then subbing him in.
2-62. We select Tanard Jackson CB Syracuse.
Obvious a helpful and value worthy pick here. Jackson is a younger version of Henry, IMO, but with some more speed. He could come in and be the nickel guy unless Glenn totally beats him out.
3-87. We select Jacoby Jones WR Lane.
A small school player, kind of like the no. 1 WR we currently have. Jones is raw, but easily has the skills to develop into a good no.2 or maybe more. Fast, nice frame and can catch the ball with his hands moreso than his body. Wont play much behind Crayton and this also means Hurd is gone as Austin will return kicks.
4-122. We select James Marten OT Boston College.
A athlete at OT, can play any line position. How can you go wrong with a Olineman from BC?
5-159. We select Jordan Palmer QB UTEP.
Can't go wrong with someone related to Carson Palmer right?
5-167. Nate Harris LB Louisville.
Typical 3-4 backer...good depth.
6-195. Louis Leonard DT Fresno State.
Another DT.
6-200. Chris Houston CB Arkansas
After being a projected 1st rounder, his inconsistancy raises many questions about his motivation and he drops, far.....
7-212. Leroy Harris C NC State.
A smart, overachieveing Olineman, hopefully he can develop into a valuable backup C.
7-234. Ryan Moore WR Miami.
Dropped because of his inconsistancy like Houston, but he has some valuable playmaking skills.
7-237. Marquise Cole CB/S Northwestern.
Another project with some help from Newman/Glenn who can maybe become a valuable backup.
Although some of these picks will be rounds off, and although I do think a Julius trade will happen, I firmly believe we are a true NT (Jamal Williams/Casey Hampton) and a above average Oline with some help from a attacking Defense we can maybe, just maybe take the next step and make it to the Super Bowl....flame on!
tyke1doe
04-02-2007, 11:15 AM
Chris Houston dropping all the way to the sixth? Wow. :eek:
Big Dakota
04-05-2007, 05:46 PM
Chris Houston dropping all the way to the sixth? Wow. :eek:
OMG that's just plain nuts!!!!
America's Team
04-08-2007, 08:10 PM
If every owner in the nfl did some kind of drugs on draft day this is what would happen. its only 1 through 10, ill finish the rest later, sorry about the spelling.
1. Oakland Raiders
Drew Stanton QB
Its simple, the raiders need a QB and since Al Davis's favorite color just happens to be green, Mr. green spartan here just happens to be the first pick in the NFL draft.
2. Detriot Lions
David Irons CB
The Lions thought it was Kenny Irons, but by the time they realized it they couldnt take it back because Roger Goodell said they would be considered indian givers.
3. Clevelend Browns
Kenny Irons RB
The Browns thought it would be funny to take Kenny right after the lions just messed up and got David on accident, the Lions didnt find it to funny, not because the Browns picked them up, but because they just ran out of drugs.
4. Tampa Bay Buccanears
Chris Leak QB
They thought Leak was a funny last name, so uhhhhh there you go.
5. Arizona Cardinals
They lost this pick because they didnt even pick a player, they werent even found in New York. (They were found 1 week later in canada looking for ricky williams, ohh yeah and they wanted to taste their maple syrup)
6. Washinton Redskins
Joe Staley OT
Joe gibbs picked him because they have the same first name.
7. Minnesota Vikings
Chris Leak QB
They just took thi pick away because as you know he was already picked.
8. Atlanta Falcons
Reggie Bush RB
They thought they were at last years draft.
9. Miami Dolphins
Mason Krosby K
They just got ride of Mare, and even though there still picking a kicker with the 9th overall pick in the NFL draft, this is somehow the safest pick in the draft.
10. Houston Texans
Chris Houston CB
Houston and Houston, it fits, not the pick but certainly the names
Wimbo
04-08-2007, 08:21 PM
http://a1259.g.akamai.net/f/1259/5586/1d/images.art.com/images/-/Family-Guy---Im-Not-Drunk-Poster-C10114396.jpeg
The30YardSlant
04-08-2007, 08:31 PM
http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~jskong/orly.gif
Avery
04-08-2007, 08:42 PM
I think the eternal question on everyone's mind is 'Why?'
masomenos
04-08-2007, 08:46 PM
I think this is just taken from Kipers site, he just forgot to post the link.
The30YardSlant
04-08-2007, 08:47 PM
What you've just posted is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response did I come across anything even remotely resembling a rational thought. Everyone on this board is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Achozen
04-08-2007, 10:41 PM
What you've just posted is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response did I come across anything even remotely resembling a rational thought. Everyone on this board is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
http://cowboys.beloblog.com/archives/rookie3.jpg
Mcquistan rules!!
Bob Sacamano
04-09-2007, 06:02 PM
What you've just posted is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response did I come across anything even remotely resembling a rational thought. Everyone on this board is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Happy Gilmore
smarta5150
04-09-2007, 07:14 PM
Happy Gilmore
Actually the ovie you are looking for is Billy Madison.
I will now reward you with zero points.
The30YardSlant
04-09-2007, 08:50 PM
Happy Gilmore
Still no points for you :lmao:
masomenos
04-11-2007, 03:04 AM
Couple Dallas Mocks
Mock 1
1. Dwayne Bowe - WR LSU
2. Johnathan Wade - CB Tennessee
3. Alan Barbre- OT Missouri Southern St
4. Brian Robinson - OLB Texas
5. Kareem Brown - DT Miami
6a. Dan Stantucci - OG Notre Dame
6b. Dustin Fry - C Clemson
7a. Le'ron Mclain - FB Alabama
7b. Justin Medlock - K UCLA
Mock 2 (all picks the same except)
1. Anthony Spencer - OLB Purdue
4. Chris Davis - WR FSU
Thoughts?
superpunk
04-11-2007, 08:15 AM
Couple Dallas Mocks
Mock 1
1. Dwayne Bowe - WR LSU
2. Johnathan Wade - CB Tennessee
3. Alan Barbre- OT Missouri Southern St
4. Brian Robinson - OLB Texas
5. Kareem Brown - DT Miami
6a. Dan Stantucci - OG Notre Dame
6b. Dustin Fry - C Clemson
7a. Le'ron Mclain - FB Alabama
7b. Justin Medlock - K UCLA
Mock 2 (all picks the same except)
1. Anthony Spencer - OLB Purdue
4. Chris Davis - WR FSU
Thoughts?
I love it, both ways - although I wonder if we'd like a shot at Gonzales (WR) in the second?
bhamzspecial
04-15-2007, 09:45 AM
My Mock Draft is as good as it gets
Round 1-WR-Dwayne Jarret(USC)
Round 2-OLB-Quentin Moses(Georgia)
Round 3-CB-Courtney Brown(Cal-Poly) or Usama Young(Kent State)
Round 4-OG/T-Allen Barbre(Missouri Southern)
Round 5-NT-Walter Thomas(NW Mississippi JC)
Round 6-OT-Jermon Bushrod(Townson State)
Round 6-OLB-Jacob Ford(Central Arkansas)
Round 7-FB-Jessie Allen(Virginia Tech)
Round 7-OC/G-Kyle Young(Fresno State)
Round 7-BAP
This mock stays true to your board and you don't reach for any player.
Comments
CrazyCowboy
04-15-2007, 09:51 AM
Does Jarrett have the speed to seperate? I am not sure.
TheSport78
04-15-2007, 10:02 AM
i wouldn't be disappointed with the Jarrett pick...he doesn't separate that well against WR's all the time, but looking at some of his highlights, this guy just makes plays in big game situations. I think he has game speed which is something you can't teach or measure! Plus he would be entering an offense similar to USC just because of the fact he will have so much talent around him. So Jarrett could make an immediate impact, especially if Owens or Glenn go down.
Not really sure about the Moses pick...he had a pretty mediocre senior year and i don't know what other LB's would be on the board at this point. I'de rather see someone like Anthony Spencer or even LaMarr Woodley come off the board for the Cowboys.
I like the Courtney Brown pick, I'm not sure if the 3rd round would be a tad of a reach, wouldn't disappoint me though. Don't know much about Usama Young.
Love the Barbre pick. Obviously we're interested in this guy and it's almost certain we'll draft him.
Kinda weary of Walter Thomas. HUGE guy and probably perfect for the 34, but he has character and work ethic issues. This guy is a project I think.
Can't really comment on the rest of them because I don't know much about them except Kyle Young. Good pick to be the swing guy for C/G.
Not bad at all.
dbair1967
04-15-2007, 10:05 AM
My Mock Draft is as good as it gets
Round 1-WR-Dwayne Jarret(USC)
Round 2-OLB-Quentin Moses(Georgia)
Round 3-CB-Courtney Brown(Cal-Poly) or Usama Young(Kent State)
Round 4-OG/T-Allen Barbre(Missouri Southern)
Round 5-NT-Walter Thomas(NW Mississippi JC)
Round 6-OT-Jermon Bushrod(Townson State)
Round 6-OLB-Jacob Ford(Central Arkansas)
Round 7-FB-Jessie Allen(Virginia Tech)
Round 7-OC/G-Kyle Young(Fresno State)
Round 7-BAP
This mock stays true to your board and you don't reach for any player.
Comments
Quinten Moses might not even go on day one, let alone rd two...I wouldnt mind Jarrett, but I think he can be had later than 22
David
big dog cowboy
04-15-2007, 10:16 AM
My Mock Draft is as good as it gets
Two things.
1. :welcome: to the board.
2. Your quote above is all I read. Couldn't go any further. Don't be insulted. My mom could put out a mock and I wouldn't read it either.
hendog
04-15-2007, 10:19 AM
Nice mock. I personally don't think I want 5 of my first 7 picks to be from small schools playing lesser competition. Seems too much to ask all of them to pan out.
bhamzspecial
04-15-2007, 10:29 AM
Besides the first three picks who will need to contribute this year. After the first three all are the other picks are for 2008 and beyond. Jarret can play right away. Moses even though he had a subpar senior year is a threat on the edge and Courtney Brown can work his way into the nickel by years end. This guy has speed and some ability
alancdc
04-15-2007, 11:53 AM
My Mock Draft is as good as it gets
Round 1-WR-Dwayne Jarret(USC)
Round 2-OLB-Quentin Moses(Georgia)
Round 3-CB-Courtney Brown(Cal-Poly) or Usama Young(Kent State)
Round 4-OG/T-Allen Barbre(Missouri Southern)
Round 5-NT-Walter Thomas(NW Mississippi JC)
Round 6-OT-Jermon Bushrod(Townson State)
Round 6-OLB-Jacob Ford(Central Arkansas)
Round 7-FB-Jessie Allen(Virginia Tech)
Round 7-OC/G-Kyle Young(Fresno State)
Round 7-BAP
This mock stays true to your board and you don't reach for any player.
Comments
Like small schools? How in the world do you, or could you know anything about the players at these small schools? I don't mean that as bad as it probably sounds, but man....If so, hats off to you for doing homework!
Future
04-15-2007, 11:56 AM
Jarrett in the first frightens me
alancdc
04-15-2007, 12:04 PM
Jarrett in the first frightens me
Not sure if I am frightened, but nervous for sure!
bhamzspecial
04-15-2007, 12:15 PM
Look at Jarrett's numers vs. any other receiver not named Calvin Johnson because he is a whole another story. Regarding the small schools, I don't care where they play but what potential they have at the next level and hope it translate to the pro's. Jerry Rice(Goat) Miss. Valley and our own Larry Allen arguably one of the best guards of all time Sonoma State, never heard of it in my life. I know those are two extreme example but true.
VACowboy
04-15-2007, 04:24 PM
[QUOTE=bhamzspecial;1456406]Round 1-WR-Dwayne Jarret(USC)
Round 2-OLB-Quentin Moses(Georgia)
Round 3-CB-Courtney Brown(Cal-Poly) or Usama Young(Kent State)
Round 4-OG/T-Allen Barbre(Missouri Southern)
Round 5-NT-Walter Thomas(NW Mississippi JC)
Round 6-OT-Jermon Bushrod(Townson State)
Round 6-OLB-Jacob Ford(Central Arkansas)
Round 7-FB-Jessie Allen(Virginia Tech)
Round 7-OC/G-Kyle Young(Fresno State)
Round 7-BAP
Jarret reminds me way too much of Mike Williams.
I LOVE the Barbre, Thomas and Young selections.
In a perfect scenario we'd trade down somewhere between 27 and 30 and pick up an extra third-rounder. My mostly realistic draft would then look like this:
(Thanks to Draft Countdown for the info: http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/)
1) Anthony Spencer, LB, Purdue, 6'3", 265, 4.7 -- An excellent athlete with great speed...Playmaker who is very active with a great motor and always around the action...Versatile and has experience dropping into coverage...Natural pass rusher with a knack for getting after the quarterback and making plays in the backfield...Extremely productive...A good technician who plays with solid leverage...Relatively stout against the run for his size...Experienced and battle tested...Good range with a burst to close fast...Very instinctive and smart. He had 9.5, 3 and 10.5 sacks the past three seasons, playing against top competition.
2) Eric Weddle, S, Utah, 5'11", 203, 4.48 -- A playmaker with excellent ball skills...Has great instincts...Tough, aggressive and a good tackler...Is always around the action...A high character player who will be an asset on and off the field...Smart and a hard worker with a great motor...Was very productive and a game changer at the college level...Will be a great special teamer and also returned punts for the Utes...Versatile with experience at both safety and cornerback with the potential to play either position at the pro level. Special education major who is very active in the community...The type who won't impress you with his physical tools but just gets the job done between the lines and is a true football player...Underrated prospect whose grade will be affected by a lack of measurables but he will end up making teams regret passing on him. He had 4, 4 and 7 INTs the past three seasons.
3) Josh Wilson, CB, Maryland, 5'9", 189, 4.39 -- Has phenomenal speed...A tremendous natural athlete with excellent quickness, agility and leaping ability...Tough and physical guy who plays a lot bigger than he is and will help against the run...Smart with good instincts...Hips are fluid and he can turn and run with anyone...Is also a terrific return man...Has good bloodlines. One of the fastest players in the draft, regardless of position...Also ran sprints for the Terps track team. One INT in each of the past two seasons.
3) Johnnie Lee Higgins, WR, U.T.E.P., 5'11", 186, 4.52 -- Has outstanding speed...Very quick with a burst...Excellent athlete...Great leaper with good ball skills and body control...Big play threat...Elusive and runs well after the catch...Tough and plays bigger than he is...Has reliable hands and will snatch the ball out of the air...Very productive...He can also contribute as a return man. Averaged 14.5, 20.6, 17.1 and 16.1 YPC, had 362, 700, 837 and 1319 yards, and caught 0, 10, 9 and 13 TDs the four years of his college career.
4) Allen Barbre, OT, Missouri Southern St., 6'4",302, 4.84 -- A fantastic athlete for the position...Mobile with good range...Decent size and the frame to bulk up further...Great strength...A hard worker...Tough and plays with a physical demeanor...Effective as a run and pass blocker...He dominated his level. Division II All-American...A workout warrior who really opened some eyes at the Scouting Combine...Could also project to guard at the next level..Might thrive in a zone blocking scheme...One of the top sleeper prospects in this draft and he will attempt to follow in the footsteps of guys like Todd Herremans and Kevin Boothe.
5) Walter Thomas, NT, NW Mississippi C.C., 6'4", 374, 5.15 -- Outstanding size and a huge frame...Very athletic...Fast and quick off the snap for a man of his dimensions...Strong and extremely powerful...Fantastic feet...Upside is basically limitless...Was really impressive at the Texas vs. Nation All-Star game.
6) Cory Anderson, FB, Tennessee, 6'2", 247, 4.70 -- A terrific athlete...Has good size and bulk...Timed speed is adequate...Excellent blocker...Strong and powerful...Has good hands and can contribute as a receiver out of the backfield...Explosive, physical and aggressive...Still has some upside...Definitely has a lot of the physical tools you look for...Basically a lead blocker and pass catcher now but has potential as a runner.
6) Kyle Young, C, Fresno State, 6'5", 354, 5.61 -- Has terrific size...Extremely strong and physical...Tough and aggressive...Stout at the point of attack and will not get pushed around...Has a nasty demeanor and a killer instinct...Versatile...Durable...A hard worker and coaches speak highly of his intangibles...Excellent awareness and a high football IQ...Has a lot of experience.
7) Jake Kuresa, G, BYU, 6'3", 322, 5.25 -- Has fantastic size...Is real strong...Proved to be extremely versatile...Athletic with pretty good feet...A hard worker...Is smart and aware...Can physically dominate opponents with his sheer bulk...Once he locks on it's over...Team leader/Captain.
7) Anthony Pudewell, TE, Nevada, 6'4", 250, 5.04 -- Excellent blocker...Very tough...Has reliable hands...Smart...Hard worker with a great motor...Aggressive and never gives up on a play...Runs hard...Uses good leverage...Decent target in the short passing game...A team leader and captain.
7) Jeff Rowe, QB, Nevada, 6'5", 226, 4.98 -- Has excellent size and bulk with a big frame...Moves well in the pocket...Throws a nice ball...Accurate and excels in the short to intermediate passing game...Tough and hard working...Nice timing and touch...Smart with great leadership abilities. 2633, 2925 and 1907 yards, 58.4, 62 and 64.7 completion percent, and 15/12, 21/10 and 17/8 TD/INT the past three years.
Undrafted Free Agents
Marcus Hamilton, CB, Virginia, 5'11, 186, 4.51 -- Has adequate size and bulk...Long arms...Really excels in zone coverage...A good leaper...Smart and very instinctive...Has good hands...Does a solid job versus the run...Anticipates well...A playmaker who jumps on opportunities...Top intangibles. The past three seasons he's totaled 4, 6 and 5 interceptions, respectively.
Jordan Kent, WR, Oregon, 6'4", 221, 4.50 -- Has outstanding height and bulk with long arms...Tremendous natural athlete...A long strider with decent speed...Just oozes potential...Phenomenal leaper...Smart and a hard worker w/ top intangibles...Showed big improvement in a short time. Was born in Saudi Arabia...Played basketball for the Ducks and his father, Ernie, is the head basketball coach...For the most part he had been known as a track and basketball star and he actually excelled in both sports at the high school and college levels...Opted to give football a try in 2005 and in doing so he became the first NCAA athlete to letter in three sports since 2002...Didn't see much action on the gridiron in high school...An extremely intriguing prospect who may get drafted based on upside alone...Whoever brings him into the fold will have to be willing to invest a lot of time and effort in him but in the end it could pay major dividends. Very raw, but very big and fast, too.
alancdc
04-15-2007, 04:28 PM
Look at Jarrett's numers vs. any other receiver not named Calvin Johnson because he is a whole another story. Regarding the small schools, I don't care where they play but what potential they have at the next level and hope it translate to the pro's. Jerry Rice(Goat) Miss. Valley and our own Larry Allen arguably one of the best guards of all time Sonoma State, never heard of it in my life. I know those are two extreme example but true.
Oh, I have no doubt that you can find talent at small schools, but to have that many in the mock I just don't see how anyone could know that much about them. If you do....I hear ya!
marchetta
04-15-2007, 09:40 PM
First 2 look good ..... I know nothing about Jay Moore ...... Can Thor tell us anything?
Jay Moore DE Nebraska
STRENGTHS
Jay is a sleeper DE in this draft. He has excellent size, strength, speed and burst to play his position. He does a very good job defending against the run and looks to be a good teammate. Jay has an excellent burst off the line of scrimmage to rush the QB and if he chose to, he could blow by just about any O-lineman at the college level; however, to his credit, he played within the scheme of the defensive system and was more interested in playing his assignment than freelancing and making flashy looking plays. Jay has the potential to be an impact DE for the team that drafts him.
NEEDS TO IMPROVE
Jay has two issues he needs to address: 1) he needs more confidence in his talent and 2) he needs a coach to bring out leadership qualities that are hidden away in Jay because he is such a good teammate and doesn’t want to rock the boat, so to speak. Of course he needs to learn better techniques and yada, yada, yada, get bigger and stronger, but that is the normal stuff that we all know about already.
TALENT BOARD ROUND: 1
Jay has enormous potential, but because he was on a team with Adam Carriker, I feel he was willing to take a second chair, which caused him to be overlooked by most people who were looking at the other side of the D-line to watch Adam. When I do my consulting work and seminars, I always use this analogy when trying to teach someone my system: when you see an outstanding player on the defensive line or offensive line, make sure you look at the player who plays the same position on the opposite side of the line. In most cases, you’ll find a player who may be just as good or better than the player everyone else is raving about. Last year, I told you all to look at the player on the other side of the defense from Mario Williams because he was a very good player. Manny Lawson has done a pretty good job for the team that drafted him; when I wrote my profile of him and rated him as a 1st round talent, no one had noticed Manny. Now I’m telling you that Jay is as good a talent as Adam is and no one has noticed him either. When he gets to the Senior Bowl and starts to workout, everyone is going to see some talents that have been hidden away because the kid is an excellent teammate. Jay will be able to play either side of the line, but I think if a team is smart, they will put him on the strong side and leave him there because he is an excellent all around talent against the run and at rushing the passer.
- Drew Boylhart (thehuddlereport.com)
Bob Sacamano
04-16-2007, 10:11 PM
1st round #22 Tennessee WR Robert Meachem…6'2" 214
Combine measurements:
4.39 40
*1.49 10-yard dash
2.49 20-yard dash
37" vertical
*10'8" long jump
*4.19 short-shuttle
6.97 3-cone drill
*Pro-Day measurements
The Skinny Outside of Calvin Johnson, Meachem has the best size/speed ratio of projected 1st day receivers, huge YAC threat, explodes in and out of his cuts, turns up field quickly once he secures the football, averaged 18 yards a catch on 71 receptions as a Junior, Dallas is said to be really high on Meachem
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2nd round #53 Akron OG Andy Alleman…6’4” 305
Combine measurements:
5.07 40-yard dash
1.71 10-yard dash
2.87 20-yard dash
27 reps of 225
30” vertical
*4.38 short-shuttle
*7.43 3-cone drill
8’10” long jump
*Pro-Day measurements
The Skinny Athletic OG who placed very highly among the guard prospects in most of the measurable exercises; his 40 yard dash time…tops, 10-yard dash…tied for tops, 20-yard dash…tops, vertical jump…tops, long jump…tops, and short-shuttle…tops, so as you can see, Alleman is pretty athletic, plus has the room to add more weight, Dallas is said to be interested in Alleman
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3rd round #87 Texas DE Brian Robison…6’3” 259
Combine measurements:
4.67 40
1.49 10-yard dash
2.65 20-yard dash
6.89 3-cone drill
4.26 short-shuttle
27 reps of 225
40 ½” vertical
10’1” long jump
The Skinny Crazy, athletic DE, who plugging his bench, long jump and vertical numbers into Pat Kirwan’s strength and explosion formula, grades a 77.51, which is superb, is good at disrupting plays in the backfield and pursuing, needs to work on his pass-rush repertoire however, although his rip and swim moves are really good, Dallas gave a lot of attention to Robison at the Senior Bowl
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4th round #118 Missouri Southern OT Allen Barbre…6’4” 300
Combine measurements:
4.84 40
1.65 10-yard dash
2.81 20-yard dash
28 reps of 225
4.63 short-shuttle
7.4 3-cone drill
32” vertical
8’9” long jump
The Skinny Athletic OT who is on the rise thanks to running a 4.84 40-yard dash, as well as scoring highly on the rest of his exercises at the Combine, dominant at the Div-2 level, according to NFLDraftScout, courtesy of masonmenos, Barbre excelled both as a run and pass-blocker, he also projects to OG in the pros, Dallas is said to be interested in Barbre
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5th round #149 Kent State CB Usama Young…5'11" 196
Pro-Day measurements:
4.4 40
1.46 10-yard dash
43" vertical
10'11" long jump
6.65 3-cone drill
4.31 short-shuttle
11.98 long-shuttle
The Skinny Intriguing Day 2 CB with obvious physical gifts, had a productive career at Kent State, is receiving a lot of interest thanks to a great Pro-Day workout, including having a workout scheduled w/ Dallas, he could come off the board early on Day 2, even late Day 1
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6h round #180 Nevada QB Jeff Rowe…6’5” 226
Combine measurements:
4.91 40
1.65 10-yard dash
2.84 20-yard dash
4.15 short-shuttle
6.72 3-cone drill
29 ½” vertical
9’6” long jump
The Skinny Solid, developmental type QB with great size and a good arm, has surprising agility, excels in the short to intermediate passing game, shows nice timing and touch on his passes, possesses nice footwork
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6th round #185 Virginia Tech SS Aaron Rouse…6’4” 223
Combine measurements:
*4.53 40
1.53 10-yard dash
2.6 20-yard dash
*6.81 3-cone drill
*4.19 short-shuttle
35” vertical
*10’1” long jump
16 reps of 225
*Pro-Day measurements
The Skinny Huge, athletic SS who offers immediate, special teams production, is raw as he switched from OLB to SS in college, offers tremendous potential
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7th round #193 Northwestern Oklahoma State NT LaRon Harris…6’2” 350
Pro-Day measurements:
1.74 10-yard dash
33 reps of 225
33.5” vertical
The Skinny Humongous NT w/ surprising athleticism, immediately after finishing his exercises, Harris did a back flip, was originally recruited by Tennessee, even appearing in 4 games for the Volunteers as a Red shirt sophomore
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7th round #215 Baylor CB Anthony Arline…6’2” 199
Combine measurements:
4.43 40
1.46 10-yard dash
2.58 20-yard dash
*36” vertical
*10’5” long jump
4.46 20-yard shuttle
7.02 3-cone drill
12 reps of 225
*Pro-Day measurements
The Skinny Tall, athletic corner who was apart of an underrated BU tandem, proved to be smooth in his turns at the Hula Bowl and used his long arms to great effect
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7th round #218 Hawaii RB Nate Ilaoa…5’9” 245
Combine measurements:
4.77 40
1.63 10-yard dash
2.75 20-yard dash
25 reps of 225
4.42 short-shuttle
7.10 3-cone drill
30” vertical
8’7” long jump
The Skinny Intriguing back that actually began his UH career as a WR, went over 1,000 yards as both a rusher and receiver for his career, including averaging 7.5 yards a carry his final 2 years and 10.8 yards a catch, better projects to FB in the pros where his rushing and receiving skills can make him a threat, needs to stay healthy
6th round #185 Virginia Tech SS Aaron Rouse…6’4” 223
god id hate your mock and for starts rouse is projected as a mostly 2nd and sometime 3rd round pick and you have as our 6th rounder?
VICTOR710
04-17-2007, 01:30 AM
1.Reggie Nelson FS 6-0 198 Florida
2.Anthony Gonzalez WR 6-0 193 OSU
3.Manuel Ramirez OG 6-3 326 Texas Tech
4.Paul Soliai DT 6-4 334 Utah
5.Dallas Baker WR 6-3 207 Florida
6.Jordan Palmer QB 6'5 235 UTEP
6.Rufus Alexander LB 6-1 227 Oklahoma
7.Yamon Figurs KR 5'11 174 Kansas St.
7. Justin Medlock K 6-0 201 UCLA
7. Brandon Hancock FB 6-1 / 230 USC
:D
TheBeheader31
04-17-2007, 06:40 AM
Why would you want a 227 pound LB?
CrazyCowboy
04-17-2007, 07:50 AM
Palmer would be an interesting pick....
#1TexasTechFan
04-17-2007, 08:21 AM
3.Manuel Ramirez OG 6-3 326 Texas Tech
Ya choose ne1 from Tx. Tech
SDogo
04-17-2007, 08:27 AM
I really like that draft minus Palmer.
Bob Sacamano
04-17-2007, 07:05 PM
god id hate your mock and for starts rouse is projected as a mostly 2nd and sometime 3rd round pick and you have as our 6th rounder?
Rouse's stock has been sliding, he doesn't play up to his physical gifts and looks lost on the field
and btw, I hate your opinion, so there ;)
Alexander
04-17-2007, 07:09 PM
My Mock Draft is as good as it gets
Round 1-WR-Dwayne Jarret(USC)
Round 2-OLB-Quentin Moses(Georgia)
Round 3-CB-Courtney Brown(Cal-Poly) or Usama Young(Kent State)
Round 4-OG/T-Allen Barbre(Missouri Southern)
Round 5-NT-Walter Thomas(NW Mississippi JC)
Round 6-OT-Jermon Bushrod(Townson State)
Round 6-OLB-Jacob Ford(Central Arkansas)
Round 7-FB-Jessie Allen(Virginia Tech)
Round 7-OC/G-Kyle Young(Fresno State)
Round 7-BAP
This mock stays true to your board and you don't reach for any player.
Comments
Very nice.
Some players are going later than they probably will (like Bushrod), but I would be very pleased if it turned out like this.
masomenos
04-17-2007, 09:51 PM
2nd Mock Draft
I'm going to do something a little different in this mock and throw a trade in there, so I guess maybe this isn't a mock so much as what I would try to do. Anyways, we're gonna be trading out of the 2nd round in this with a team like San Fran who has multiple 3rd and 4th round picks. So we go out of the second and pick up and early 3rd and and early 4th.
1. Dwayne Bowe WR LSU
I think Bowe is one of the top three WRs in the draft. He has great hands, was very productive, runs terrific routes and is very powerful after the catch. Switching Meachem with Bowe would be fine with me, but this 1st pick should be reserved for finding our next #1 WR.
3a. Alan Barbre OT Missouri Southern St
A terrific pass blocker and really no slouch in the run game. He was successful with 85.4% of his blocks over the past two years and only allowed 1 QB pressure and 2.5 sacks. Has potential to be the LT of the future after we cut ties with Flozell. Played at a smaller school but definitely has the potential. At the worst will provide great depth.
3b. Brian Robinson OLB Texas
A fantastic athlete and somewhat of a workout warrior. Was never amazingly productive but had 12.5 sacks and 25 QB pressures over the past two seasons. While he has a lot of potential I don't know if he'll ever be a star as a 34 OLB but he could certainly work in a rotation and be productive. Could be an eventual starter and is the type of guy who could contribute right away.
4a. Dustin Fry C Clemson
I originally had Samson Satele here because McShay had him that low...but really it doesn't make sense. Instead I'm going to pencil Dustin Fry in here. Fry is a competent blocker who managed a blocking success rate of around 84% in the past two seasons. He's very good in pass blocking and is an above average down field blocker. With only one center on the roster a guy like Fry could provide much needed depth at the position.
4b. Usama Young CB Kent St
A very underrated prospect who has some of the best quickness numbers of any CB in the draft. Probably isn't a guy who will develop into a #1 CB but he definitely has potential as a #3 or even a #2 guy. With Henry and Glenn old and a little inconsistent in their play Young is the kind of choice who could come in and add security at the position and take over when needed. I think Young could be a real steal.
5. Manny Ramirez OG Texas Tech
I don't know if he'll last this long but McShay had him in this range so I'm going to stick him here as well. A little risky because he's coming of some knee problems, but that's the reason he could fall as well. Even if he comes back completely healthy he may never be the type of player who's a real solid starter, but the potential is there, especially in run blocking. He has terrific strength and does a good job of blocking at the second level. May be a little raw in his run blocking coming from Texas Tech, but definitely has potential.
6a. Justin Medlock K UCLA
Not a real necessary pick but could provide good value this late. At the very least he's a guy who could push Gramatica in camp and even possibly win a starting job. He has a powerful leg and pretty good long range accuracy. May not end up making the team, but could certainly surprise.
6b. Le'ron McClain FB Alabama
A true blocking FB and also pretty good at catching the ball out of the backfield. Not a short yardage runner, but we have Barber for that. Would be a nice addition to the offense in that he could provide a boost in the running game and provide a good outlet for Romo.
7a. Jeff Rowe QB Nevada
Didn't have a great senior year and probably isn't the type of guy who can follow a Tony Romo career arc. Can he even develop into a solid backup? I don't know but he does have some good physical tools and a decent skill set, showing pretty good accuracy and a strong enough arm to make the throws. At the very least he's a guy who could push Matt Baker in camp and whoever shows the most could either slide down to the PS or even go in as the 3rd QB.
7b. Walter Thomas DT NW Mississippi JC
Small school DT prospect who dominated his level of competition and certainly has the size and measurables that you look for. Bring him in a long term project, there's very little risk at this point in the draft and his upside could warrant a late round selection.
Well, there we go. That's it. I know it may not be very popular to trade out of the 2nd round but I believe we can get better value in doing so and pick up some players who have good potential and at the very least would provide solid depth as backups. The one position that it doesn't really do much for is DT...but I guess you can't fix everything in one year. The only real difference maker is Dwayne Bowe, but even he would only play a limited role this year. The draft is focused on the future as the Cowboys don't have a whole lot of immediate needs.
Bob Sacamano
04-17-2007, 11:14 PM
^^^sucks ;)
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