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In half a game against Minny
Drives with him as RB ran up 16 minutes TOP.
In partial game against Browns - His units TOP was 24 Minutes
There were 5 drives with JJ/RL
He was part of 4 of our 6 scores that resulted in a score. Was screwed out of a 5th with missed FG.
The more George plays the better our chances at winning are. Control the clock grind it out. protect the ball and keep defense off the field and fresh.
Tuna Helper
09-20-2004, 07:54 PM
In half a game against Minny
Drives with him as RB ran up 16 minutes TOP.
In partial game against Browns - His units TOP was 24 Minutes
There were 5 drives with JJ/RL
He was part of 4 of our 6 scores that resulted in a score. Was screwed out of a 5th with missed FG.
The more George plays the better our chances at winning are. Control the clock grind it out. protect the ball and keep defense off the field and fresh.
I prefer to look at this another way...
1st down...EG runs and falls forward for 2 yards...clock ticking
2nd down...EG runs and falls forward for 2 yards...clock ticking.
3rd down...Vinny passes complete to Whitten or KJ for a first down...clock ticking
Do you see what I'm getting at?
I prefer to look at this another way...
1st down...EG runs and falls forward for 2 yards...clock ticking
2nd down...EG runs and falls forward for 2 yards...clock ticking.
3rd down...Vinny passes complete to Whitten or KJ for a first down...clock ticking
Do you see what I'm getting at?
He consistently holds onto the football. Keeps it in 3rd and short. Not all 3rd and longs. And has done a good job converting First downs. He had 18 of the 27 RB carries yesterday. About right and we won.
235 pound RB adds presence on field.
dargonking999
09-20-2004, 07:58 PM
I prefer to look at this another way...
1st down...EG runs and falls forward for 2 yards...clock ticking
2nd down...EG runs and falls forward for 2 yards...clock ticking.
3rd down...Vinny passes complete to Whitten or KJ for a first down...clock ticking
Do you see what I'm getting at?
hmm intrsting thought give him another yard or two on second down. And thats basically the idea of him. If we want big play JJ/Lee comes in. If we wont ball control "the fumbler" has been replaced by some one who can hold on to the ball for all you EG haters out there. Is he still a bad choice
Tuna Helper
09-20-2004, 08:01 PM
hmm intrsting thought give him another yard or two on second down. And thats basically the idea of him. If we want big play JJ/Lee comes in. If we wont ball control "the fumbler" has been replaced by some one who can hold on to the ball for all you EG haters out there. Is he still a bad choice
I think EG fits what BP wants him to do. Recall last year that with Hambone, we would lose yards on his running plays. 1st and 10 would turn to 2nd and 12. EG gives us 3rd and 5 or 6, or better. This is what he has been asked to do.
This is not bad, but it takes a play by VT and others to keep the chains moving. It is better to have 3rd and 5 instead of 3rd and 15 like we had with Hambone last year.
cowboyfan4life_mark
09-20-2004, 08:04 PM
I prefer to look at this another way...
1st down...EG runs and falls forward for 2 yards...clock ticking
2nd down...EG runs and falls forward for 2 yards...clock ticking.
3rd down...Vinny passes complete to Whitten or KJ for a first down...clock ticking
Do you see what I'm getting at?
Uh, Vinnys good on third down conversions? :D
Tuna Helper
09-20-2004, 08:05 PM
He consistently holds onto the football. Keeps it in 3rd and short. Not all 3rd and longs. And has done a good job converting First downs. He had 18 of the 27 RB carries yesterday. About right and we won.
235 pound RB adds presence on field.
I agree. I'll take the 3rd and 4 or 5 that he always gives us versus the 3rd and 15 we had when Hambrick ran the ball two times in a row last year. The point I was making is that he has his role, and it is to hold onto the ball and get a few yards every carry, leaving VT with a high percentage pass play or another short running play for a 1st down.
EG is a great pickup, but don't expect him to bust many. His job is to pick up a few yards every carry and not necessarily to bust 60 yard runs.
I agree. I'll take the 3rd and 4 or 5 that he always gives us versus the 3rd and 15 we had when Hambrick ran the ball two times in a row last year. The point I was making is that he has his role, and it is to hold onto the ball and get a few yards every carry, leaving VT with a high percentage pass play or another short running play for a 1st down.
EG is a great pickup, but don't expect him to bust many. His job is to pick up a few yards every carry and not necessarily to bust 60 yard runs.
Thats his role here. I think we will continue to establish run.
The trick play was Eddie George up the middle. And the TE td was a play action off of Eddie George. With Allen and Johnson in form a D has to be concerned that we get Eddie going downfield. And at 235 he wears a defense down!
Waffle
09-20-2004, 08:21 PM
He consistently holds onto the football. Keeps it in 3rd and short. Not all 3rd and longs. And has done a good job converting First downs. He had 18 of the 27 RB carries yesterday. About right and we won.
235 pound RB adds presence on field.
Don't be shocked...but I actually agree and think you are right about Eddie and his value to the team. He's not flashy or fast, but he does have an ability to wear defenses down. It scares me when you make sense, Nors!! ;)
MichaelWinicki
09-20-2004, 08:28 PM
In half a game against Minny
Drives with him as RB ran up 16 minutes TOP.
In partial game against Browns - His units TOP was 24 Minutes
There were 5 drives with JJ/RL
He was part of 4 of our 6 scores that resulted in a score. Was screwed out of a 5th with missed FG.
The more George plays the better our chances at winning are. Control the clock grind it out. protect the ball and keep defense off the field and fresh.
Nors, Nors, Nors...
Why do you make me school you?
The only thing Eddie George helps us do is average 18 points per game. Why? Because he offers us no possibility of being able to score outside the 3 yard-line.
Time of possession means nothing without points... nothing.
Nors, Nors, Nors...
Why do you make me school you?
The only thing Eddie George helps us do is average 18 points per game. Why? Because he offers us no possibility of being able to score outside the 3 yard-line.
Time of possession means nothing without points... nothing.
Without George we are likely a 6 win team at best with JJ/Lee. Rookies fumble, are not used to NFL poundings and have a lot to learn.
It is best what Parcells did. Add the bruising Vet and get the kids some experience. So You were wrong we would sign EG, wrong he has no tread left, wrong on EG's value to TEAM. He helps TOP, Controlling clock, converting 3rd downs, not fumbling, protectinq QB and WINNING a football game. Doing what BP wants................
When he's on sideline for a half game it's over.
They by chance call you "crazy mike"? Thanks for schooling.
BTW - EG has 130 consecutive starts and counting. Thats right has never missed a start EVER in NFL career. 10,000 yards - more than just a name.
MichaelWinicki
09-20-2004, 08:52 PM
Without George we are likely a 6 win team at best with JJ/Lee. Rookies fumble, are not used to NFL poundings and have a lot to learn.
It is best what Parcells did. Add the bruising Vet and get the kids some experience. So You were wrong we would sign EG, wrong he has no tread left, wrong on EG's value to TEAM. He helps TOP, Controlling clock, converting 3rd downs, not fumbling, protectinq QB and WINNING a football game. Doing what BP wants................
When he's on sideline for a half game is over.
They by chance call you "crazy mike"? Thanks for schooling.
BTW - EG has 130 consecutive starts and counting. Thats right has never missed a start EVER in NFL career. 10,000 yards - more than just a name.
OK Nors...
Where's your proof he has "tread" left? Hmmm?
Yeah, I bet Bill wants to average 18 points per game.
School is still in session!
Roughneck
09-20-2004, 09:06 PM
Nors, Nors, Nors...
Why do you make me school you?
The only thing Eddie George helps us do is average 18 points per game. Why? Because he offers us no possibility of being able to score outside the 3 yard-line.
Time of possession means nothing without points... nothing.Good Lord Mike, it took you 9 whole posts to actually make an appearance on this thread? You're getting slow in your old age.
:D
OK Nors...
Where's your proof he has "tread" left? Hmmm? Parcells has said it and he took over game and clock yesterday in Win. 18 carries his way.
Yeah, I bet Bill wants to average 18 points per game.
School is still in session!
Same as our #1 rated D last year. The points will follow! We botched a FG, and were schooled by Minny OFFENSE.
All that counts are wins. We will score more points.
3 interceptions are on VT, Fumble on Julius Jones. Whats that to do with George?
Smith22
09-20-2004, 09:56 PM
OK Nors...
Yeah, I bet Bill wants to average 18 points per game.
School is still in session!
And what does that have to do with EG. Last I checked, Jones is the one who fumbled and VT was busy throwing 3 INT's, not to mention all the yellow flags thrown our way. Hard 2 blame all that on EG IMO.
OK Nors...
Where's your proof he has "tread" left? Hmmm?
Yeah, I bet Bill wants to average 18 points per game.
School is still in session!
I can tell you he looks about the same as the last few years. Bill obviously knows how to use him being the type of runner he is. Jeff Fisher used him in the same TOP type controlling offense too.
The problem is the Dallas O doesn't have the firepower that the Titans O had last season. I think Vinney will be an improvement, and Key is looking good. The receiving core is good and Whitten is showing what Bill said he saw in him....I'm hoping this O will prove much better than last years. If the D can show up like last year, I believe we'll be back in the playoffs.
I would say that Lee should get plenty of carries if he keeps his current level of play up. Hopefully Bill will pick and choose wisely where to use who. A lot of people are questioning Bill, but I'm not going to give up on him yet. I think he'll probably get the best out of the players he has.
Zman5
09-20-2004, 11:27 PM
He consistently holds onto the football. Keeps it in 3rd and short. Not all 3rd and longs. And has done a good job converting First downs. He had 18 of the 27 RB carries yesterday. About right and we won.
235 pound RB adds presence on field.
Yeh right. Wasn't Hambone at 235LBs last year???
Yeh right. Wasn't Hambone at 235LBs last year???
lol 235 of blob vs 235 of muscle :D
SuspectCorner
09-21-2004, 01:20 AM
I prefer to look at this another way...
1st down...EG runs and falls forward for 2 yards...clock ticking
2nd down...EG runs and falls forward for 2 yards...clock ticking.
3rd down...Vinny passes complete to Whitten or KJ for a first down...clock ticking
Do you see what I'm getting at?
give it a rest man. 60,000 fans at game chanting "ed-die! ed-die!" what did they see that you cannot. george obviously has something left in the tank. give him his props.
BrAinPaiNt
09-21-2004, 07:17 AM
And what does that have to do with EG. Last I checked, Jones is the one who fumbled and VT was busy throwing 3 INT's, not to mention all the yellow flags thrown our way. Hard 2 blame all that on EG IMO.
No it's not hard to blame him....I see many do it every day. :(
Nors, Nors, Nors...
Why do you make me school you?
The only thing Eddie George helps us do is average 18 points per game. Why? Because he offers us no possibility of being able to score outside the 3 yard-line.
Time of possession means nothing without points... nothing.
I thought time of possession meant everything when you couldnt score points. The longer you have the ball the less time your opponent has to put points on the board. 4 and outs = potential blowouts when the other team can march down the field.
MichaelWinicki
09-21-2004, 10:44 AM
I thought time of possession meant everything when you couldnt score points. The longer you have the ball the less time your opponent has to put points on the board. 4 and outs = potential blowouts when the other team can march down the field.
Yeah, but if the other team can score points you're dead meat.
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