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InmanRoshi
09-21-2004, 09:42 AM
Norm just announced that Rayfield Wright and Cliff Harris will be inducted.

Press conference announced this afternoon at 2:00. It will be during the Giants homegame.

k19
09-21-2004, 09:50 AM
Good deal its about time they get some well earned respect. Enough of the HOF snubs

Cbz40
09-21-2004, 09:52 AM
That's a great move. Both are very deserving.

^&*^The HOF

Duane
09-21-2004, 09:59 AM
Congratulations to both those guys. It's been long overdue.

percyhoward
09-21-2004, 09:59 AM
Now the question is, Does this close the book on Tex's Cowboys?

I know Drew and Too Tall's credentials aren't quite as good as Harris and Wright, but it's a shame if they're gonna be left out.

The next one in is probably Aikman.

Duane
09-21-2004, 10:15 AM
Now the question is, Does this close the book on Tex's Cowboys?

I know Drew and Too Tall's credentials aren't quite as good as Harris and Wright, but it's a shame if they're gonna be left out.

The next one in is probably Aikman.

I think so Percy. While I liked both those guys as players they weren't elite. The Ring of Honor is really reserved for the best of the best and neither of those guys fit that category.

Aikman, Irvin, Smith and Allen are probably the only guys from the Super Bowl years that get in. Woody has an outside chance if he sticks around for another couple of years and plays at a high level.

SoTex
09-21-2004, 10:30 AM
Too bad Charlie Waters is not going in too. It would have been nice to see the tandem of Waters and Harris together again for this honor.

Mr Cowboy
09-21-2004, 10:34 AM
According to DC.COM press conference for this announcement will be at 3.

HTownCowboysFan
09-21-2004, 10:43 AM
Charlie Waters and Drew Pearson should be next, IMO.

trickblue
09-21-2004, 10:49 AM
I think so Percy. While I liked both those guys as players they weren't elite. The Ring of Honor is really reserved for the best of the best and neither of those guys fit that category.

Aikman, Irvin, Smith and Allen are probably the only guys from the Super Bowl years that get in. Woody has an outside chance if he sticks around for another couple of years and plays at a high level.

Too Tall was an excellent player for us but ROH status is iffy. Drew Pearson on the other hand... fully deserves to be in... as well as the HOF... his numbers are better in most every category than Lynn Swann... and he is in the HOF.

Now I realize that the HOF is more exclusive than the ROH... but Drew has also been an ambassodor for the Cowboys both during and after his playing career...

Ironically, the fact that Drew owns the web rights to "Ring of Honor", is the very thing that will keep him out...

SA_Gunslinger
09-21-2004, 11:00 AM
i love it...way to go jerry jones!

Maikeru-sama
09-21-2004, 11:14 AM
I kind of thought Harris and Waters would go in together and Wright would go in separately. But both are very deserving and it is well overdue.

I personally thought Hell would have to freeze over first before a lineman was added to the Ring of Honor.

- Mike G.

ABQCOWBOY
09-21-2004, 11:20 AM
BFT. Honestly, this was such a huge oversight that it was imbarassing.

As for the last of the Tex Cowboys, I'm not so sure. I think Harvey Martin is a guy who probably deserves to be included.

Cbz40
09-21-2004, 11:44 AM
Charlie Waters and Drew Pearson should be next, IMO.


I would not be opposed to Drew or Charlie going in.

BrAinPaiNt
09-21-2004, 12:15 PM
BFT. Honestly, this was such a huge oversight that it was imbarassing.

As for the last of the Tex Cowboys, I'm not so sure. I think Harvey Martin is a guy who probably deserves to be included.


Yes WAY overdue and not just from Jerry, the previous ownership should have put them in before Jerry ever bought the team IMO.

But better late than never and chances are the only reason they (JJ) decided to do it now was because of the HOF snubs last year.

ABQCOWBOY
09-21-2004, 12:30 PM
Yes WAY overdue and not just from Jerry, the previous ownership should have put them in before Jerry ever bought the team IMO.

But better late than never and chances are the only reason they (JJ) decided to do it now was because of the HOF snubs last year.

I agree with you Paint.

AmishCowboy
09-21-2004, 12:55 PM
Drew Pearson deserves to be in!, He has a lotta big catches for the Boys. Outside of Irvin and Hayes, he may be the best in Cowboy history and it's our Ring of Honor!

TruBlueCowboy
09-21-2004, 04:59 PM
Norm just announced that Rayfield Wright and Cliff Harris will be inducted.

Press conference announced this afternoon at 2:00. It will be during the Giants homegame.

Terrific news!! If Jerry Jones would have gotten off his arse and inducted these guys a lot earlier, maybe they wouldn't have been snubbed in the Hall of Fame vote. Hard to justify a Hall of Famer when his own team doesn't retire his number. Great to hear the 70's dynasty is getting more recognition!! :cool:

Clay_Allison
09-21-2004, 06:06 PM
That leaves Too Tall Jones and Harvey Martin as the only obvious players (in my opinion) that should be inducted.

Cornell Green and Charlie Waters deserve consideration.

Clay_Allison
09-21-2004, 06:09 PM
Terrific news!! If Jerry Jones would have gotten off his arse and inducted these guys a lot earlier, maybe they wouldn't have been snubbed in the Hall of Fame vote. Hard to justify a Hall of Famer when his own team doesn't retire his number. Great to hear the 70's dynasty is getting more recognition!! :cool:

Retiring numbers just doesn't happen any more, except for QBs since there are only three QBs on the team and 19 possible numbers. Dallas has never retired a number, they just won't give 12, 8, or 74 to anyone. If Green Bay retired all of the numbers of its' Hall of Famers they couldn't field a team.

CowboyPrincess
09-21-2004, 06:15 PM
Norm just announced that Rayfield Wright and Cliff Harris will be inducted.

Press conference announced this afternoon at 2:00. It will be during the Giants homegame.

It's about dang time they got in...

now it's time to get Ed Jones and Harvey Martin in there next

TruBlueCowboy
09-21-2004, 06:15 PM
Retiring numbers just doesn't happen any more, except for QBs since there are only three QBs on the team and 19 possible numbers. Dallas has never retired a number, they just won't give 12, 8, or 74 to anyone. If Green Bay retired all of the numbers of its' Hall of Famers they couldn't field a team.

You know what I mean, not literally, but at least in spirit, or as much as it can be allowed in an NFL environment. I don't know a term for being on the walls of a stadium other than "retiring the number." :)

Hostile
09-21-2004, 06:29 PM
Norm just announced that Rayfield Wright and Cliff Harris will be inducted.

Press conference announced this afternoon at 2:00. It will be during the Giants homegame.
'Bout dang time.

Too Tall and some others from the Landry era ought to be soon too.

percyhoward
09-21-2004, 10:24 PM
This the Hall of Fame's own All-Decade Team for the 70's. Bold indicates Hall of Famer. Anybody notice something peculiar about this list? ;)

DE Carl Eller, Minnesota
WR Lynn Swann, Pittsburgh
DE Jack Youngblood, Los Angeles
TE Dave Casper, Oakland
DT Joe Greene, Pittsburgh
OT Art Shell, Oakland
DT Bob Lilly, Dallas
OT Ron Yary, Minnesota
OLB Jack Ham, Pittsburgh
G Joe DeLamielleure, Buf.
MLB Dick Butkus, Chicago
G Larry Little, Miami
OLB Ted Hendricks, G.B./Oak.
C Jim Langer, Miami
CB Willie Brown, Oakland
QB Terry Bradshaw, Pittsburgh
CB Jimmy Johnson, San Francisco
RB Walter Payton, Chicago
RB O.J. Simpson, Buffalo
S Ken Houston, Washington
S Cliff Harris, Dallas
WR Drew Pearson, Dallas

Yeah, the only non-Hall of Famers on it are both Cowboys.

Anyway, Harris and Wright were selected for the R of H because they both made the Final 15 in the H of F selection process last year, in their 25th year of retirement (their last year of eligibility other than to go in as a senior inductee).

Drew Pearson has never even been a finalist. He has until 2008. So he's still out there as a possibility if Jerry's waiting for him to be a finalist before he puts him in the R of H.

Outside of that, I think the book is closed on the pre-Jones era.