Sell Me On Texas

[NYCowboy22]

I am 21 years old and have lived in NY all my life and not sure if it's the place for me. My company has its main HQ in Texas and I'm a diehard Cowboy fan to boot. Please sell me on Texas.

The main things I hate about NY are:

Insane traffic (I spend 3 hours a day commuting)
Population density
Insane gun laws
Insanely high prices (decent house in a nice neighborhood is running you a minimum of 800K)
Car insurance
Giants fans
Crime

What I Like:

Everything is at your finger tips


Tell me everything good or bad about Texas.

How much are season tickets? It costs me 500+ for 2 decent seats just to watch the boys play at Giants Stadium.


LETS HEAR IT!

[ZeroClub]

There isn't one Texas, but several.

Your experience in downtown Houston would be much different from a north Dallas suburb, which would differ from life in North Zulch, Lubbock, or Corpus Christi.

You might want to ask specifically about your likely relocation area.

[NYCowboy22]

I guess I should add that I'm looking for info in the Dallas area. My company's office is located in Dallas and that's where the Boys play :D

I saw Roy Williams house on MTV Cribs so I know you guys have some nice neighborhoods like in NY :p:

[Yeagermeister]

Dallas has insane traffic also and I won't even mention Houston traffic.

[WoodysGirl]

Zero is right that the kind of entertainment you're likely to get in on metropolitan area of Texas is different from hub to hub. Like most states, Texas has its pros and cons.

Texas overall
ALOT slower than New York.
No state income tax
Real estate prices are ridiculously great in comparison to NY.
Conservative state which can be culture shock to those coming from elsewhere. Most clubs close at 2am...and those that are open after 2a, stop serving alcohol at 2a.
Everything is spread out
You need a car for the most part; public transportation is better, but not as good as NY.

I'll let someone else breakdown the DFW area...

[WoodysGirl]

Dallas has insane traffic also and I won't even mention Houston traffic.You just don't know the highways... lol


Seriously, I remember when my Mom brought me down to Houston for the first time, it was wild. People still drove fast through construction areas, even the buses. It still makes my Mom nervous, so I drive whenever she comes down here. She grips the doors whenever we go somewhere. :p:

[Yeagermeister]

You just don't know the highways... lol


Seriously, I remember when my Mom brought me down to Houston for the first time, it was wild. People still drove fast through construction areas, even the buses. It still makes my Mom nervous, so I drive whenever she comes down here. She grips the doors whenever we go somewhere. :p:

I know the highways well enough to know I hate driving there :laugh1:

[trickblue]

You're still going to have traffic issues, but nothing like NYC... NOTHING...

Also, they don't sell liquor on Sundays in a store and many areas, even in Dallas are "dry"... in other words don't sell it at all...

A few things, Dallas has more restaurants per capita than NYC and thye have some excellent restaurants.

The DFW area only has three trees and they are in a rougher section known as Oak Cliff.

Be prepared for heat like you've never experienced although winters are pretty mild by NY standards.

The women... well... you'll see within 10 minutes of visiting... ;)

There is plenty to do in the area so don't worry about that.

The people are also very friendly. It's a great place to live...

[Crown Royal]

Dallas is closer to being LA than NY.

Traffic is rough, but nothing like NY. More a matter of things are spread out. Public transportation is a problem because of this, although the DART rail is trying to make it better, hopefully by 2050.

Very minimal urban atmosphere unless you are right on top of downtown Dallas, which is nice, but limited in area. The downtown area is a business district, nothing to do at night.

Price of living is dirt cheap compared to what you are used to.

The conservative thing is bigger if you go to the rural areas, sometimes suburbia, but generally, unless you are big into politics, I don't find much difference in it.

Something you will notice is the 'suburban culture' that Texas is moving into. Over the last decade, families from the midwest & NE have been flocking to Texas, specifically, Dallas, to the point where almost all of North Texas is now covered in tract housing. The first time I was in the midwest, I was shocked that every home wasn't built by either D.R. Horton or Fox & Jacobs.

Some people love that, I find. Mostly people from out of state. I grew up here, and I detest the suburban culture, but that's just me. I am somewhat at a disadvantage - I am trying to find a way to get into the Midwest or NE, while everyone else is getting out. But I am used to living dirt cheap, and dunno if I am prepared for a culture shock in having to pay 1100 in rent for 1 bedroom hole in the wall.

[peplaw06]

The main things I hate about NY are:

Insane traffic (I spend 3 hours a day commuting) You should never have a 1 1/2 hour commute one way unless you just want to... There are reasonable places to live just about everywhere in the Metroplex
Population density DFW is very much spread out for it's population. I lived in LA and I could get from the Valley to the OC in the time it takes to get from West Ft Worth to East Dallas... That's like 4 million people less, give or take, in roughly the same amount of drive time.
Insane gun lawsI assume TX is more conservative there than NY. I had friends in LA who asked if I took guns to football games... joking of course.
Insanely high prices (decent house in a nice neighborhood is running you a minimum of 800K) That's been addressed. 800 K buys you a lot of house here.
Car insurance I'll let you know in August when I have to get my policy here.
Giants fans They don't exist here... we ran em all out ;)
Crime Nah, we kill all the criminals ;) Ok, not ALL of em... just most of em

What I Like:

Everything is at your finger tips You may run into problems there. Since everything is more spread out, you may have to travel a ways to get to a specific place. Depending on where you live, you can keep most things nearby. But if you're a sports fan for example, the Cowboys are moving to Arlington, which is 30 min or so outside of Dallas proper.

[Crown Royal]

I'm a little bit confused by what you mean 'everything is at your fingertips.'

Do you mean food/restaurants, nightclubs/entertainment, sports events, what?

[Crown Royal]

I lived in LA and I could get from the Valley to the OC in the time it takes to get from West Ft Worth to East Dallas...


Did you have a helicopter?

[trickblue]

Car insurance


If you live in Dallas County it will be a bit on the high side...

[Yeagermeister]

Did you have a helicopter?

I'm guessing a sugar rush :D

[WoodysGirl]

If you live in Dallas County it will be a bit on the high side...Ha! Try living in Harris County (Houston). Highest in the state. I pay about 100/mo. It seems the newer the car, the less the insurance.

[joseephuss]

There isn't one Texas, but several.

Your experience in downtown Houston would be much different from a north Dallas suburb, which would differ from life in North Zulch, Lubbock, or Corpus Christi.

You might want to ask specifically about your likely relocation area.

The best parties are in North Zulch. :D

We have great Spring weather which falls during Christmas. Of the other 3 seasons, Early Summer is survivable, Summer is a killer and Late Summer can go either way.

Where is your companies main headquarters? That can narrow down which part of the state to sell you on although we can probably assume Dallas.

Plenty of fishing and hunting pretty much anywhear you live. Really any type of outdoor activities. Water skiing, boating, golfing and the like. Gambling in Oklahoma and Louisiana, which are not too far of a drive from Dallas. Lots of nightlife and clubs in the major cities. Lots of live music of all kinds. Lots of open roads if you like to ride motorcycles. No state income tax. A state sales tax. Gas is around $2.80/gallon right now.

[Mavs Man]

Coming from someone who has lived on Long Island for over a year and is now living in the heart of Dallas, traffic is bad here but nowhere close to how it is on the Island. Salaries are lower (though I'm making a higher salary here), but housing prices and prices in general are half of what they are there. Population density is noticeably less. My wife and I are paying half the insurance rates, and we're both under 25 (one more year).

No state income taxes is a big plus for me. We spent an extra five percent of our income to NY even though we weren't official residents and didn't get any benefits from it.

Chinese food sucks here, though, but from where I'm at there are a lot more choices as far as restaurants and food choices. Super markets have a much better selection of food with lower prices.

NYC is much better than Dallas in regards to entertainment, but tickets to sporting events are cheaper and easier to gain access, and of course there's Six Flags and Hurricane Harbor in Arlington.

Traffic is better here, but more spread out so drive time could be the same - but for me feels better. If I'm going to be on the road for an hour, I'd rather drive farther at 70 mph than go a short distance in bumper to bumper parking lots.

Speed limits are not ridiculous here. I got sick of always driving under 60 on the Island.

[Crown Royal]

If you can't find good chinese food, either I don't know what you are comparing to, or you aren't looking in the right place.

In my experience traveling the country, like TB said, you should have no problem finding excellent cuisine of all kinds in Dallas. They have every kind of restaurant you could hope for.

[Kangaroo]

Texas is while Texas we are unique in may ways you can drive 13 hours at 60+ mph and never leave the state

Gun Laws while you can drive with a loaded rifle hanging in a gun rack in full site (we are consider a frontier state)

You can get a permit to carry a concealed handgun

Texas is a right to work state you will see very few unions outside of Police and teacher ones

We have are own truck editions yep Chevy and Ford make special Truck editions for Texas

Texas is a patriotic state we put more people in the arm services than any other state

Texas kind of gets into your skin and Texans are proud of being a Texan

[theebs]

If you are moving from ny to Dallas, prepare for culture shock.

I had it, and I wasnt even from the city. In general though people are people and it is about the same.

You need to look at a map of dfw and figure out where the office is you will work at. If it is in north Dallas, richardson plano area you wont want to live in south arlington, mansfield, burleson etc.

It all depends on what you want. You can live in the city of Dallas or in the suburbs to which it seems 95% of this area is.

To me it doesnt matter where I drive around here, mansfield looks the same as farmers branch, southlake, fort worth, plano, frisco etc.

A ton of fast food in suburbs, and the same shopping centers over and over and over.

Here is the first thing I noticed when I got here, Church, gas station, bank, pharmacy every other block. Thats it, Concrete, church, gas station, bank, pharmacy....

Oh and you can buy a single cowboys season ticket for 500 bucks, so compare that to one game.

This area has everything you could want and nice weather. But be prepared culturaly people are different, its like night and day. I guess that all depends on the kind of person you are though, if you go to church every sunday and then bible study during the week you will fit like a glove, if like me and do neither well its different.

My wife loves the weather, I love the football. So that is why I am here!!

Really though, you need to find the location of the office, saying Dallas really doesnt pinpoint anything. It could be anywhere. Find the office location and then figure out a place to live to shorten your commute!

[Yeagermeister]

Stay away from Roanoke unless you are a NASCAR fan and want to be near Texas Motor Speedway. There is nothing out there. Except for the two apartment communities the company I work for owns. :D

[dougonthebench]

I am 21 years old and have lived in NY all my life and not sure if it's the place for me. My company has its main HQ in Texas and I'm a diehard Cowboy fan to boot. Please sell me on Texas.

The main things I hate about NY are:

Insane traffic (I spend 3 hours a day commuting)
Population density
Insane gun laws
Insanely high prices (decent house in a nice neighborhood is running you a minimum of 800K)
Car insurance
Giants fans
Crime

What I Like:

Everything is at your finger tips


Tell me everything good or bad about Texas.

How much are season tickets? It costs me 500+ for 2 decent seats just to watch the boys play at Giants Stadium.


LETS HEAR IT!


you'll love it here in Texas!

[NYCowboy22]

I'm a superintendent for a large contracting/construction management firm. I will be reporting to job sites rather than the main HQ, so my location will change on a yearly basis. However I would like to be located near the main office in case I decide to stare at a computer all day ;)

They have a HQ in Dallas at

Dallas, TX 75202*
2001 North Lamar

and one in Houston which I wouldn't be interested in.

I have looked at the real estate in Plano and am very impressed. I like having actual space between houses as I value a little privacy (you are packed in like sardines in NY, except for some parts of Long Island) I currently live at home and wouldn't move there until I had enough cash to put a down payment on a house (My GF is in school for 3 more years and I don't plan on leaving her behind anyway ;) )

The Van Wyck Expressway and the Long Island Expressway in NY are absolute murder at rush hour. There are people at my company who leave work at 7PM just so they don't have to sit in rush hour traffic. These people would rather work 12 hour days than sit in traffic, just to give you an indication of how bad it is. I can deal with traffic, and even long drives, but there is something about being completely stopped on an "expressway" that makes my blood boil.

I'm a pretty low key guy and have come upon a realization that NY may not be for me. A lot of people here are very high maintenance with attitudes. The nightlife won't be a problem since by the time I make the move, I will probably be past that phase in my life.

When I say everything is at your fingertips in NY, I mean there is an endless amount of things to do in a condensed area. However, this is not that important to me... I don't mind having to travel a little.

Are there any other neighborhoods similar to Plano in the proximity of the location of the Dallas office?

I'm starting to think the only thing I'm going to miss is my family and the Met's. :p:

[Crown Royal]

The part of dallass to which you are referring is not near any suburban neighborhoods.

I would suggest north Dallas for you, considering your age. The village is a nice area, you are only a couple of years younger than I.

Sounds like you have a good job, and as far as proximity, compared to NY, you just won't have the same as far as entertainment. But north Dallas would be a good comprimise for you.

Go visit sometime, take your girl on a weekend journey, just to get an idea of what it's like.

[joseephuss]

I hear the area near SMU is pretty nice as well as a little bit further east near White Rock lake. The marathon goes through this area and I remember thinking it was a pretty nice neighborhood. It may be a little more pricey than Plano, but nothing compared to NYC. It is not that far from your office, which is close to downtown and around American Airlines Arena. That is almost the extent of my Dallas knowledge since I only visit friends in Plano ocasionally.

[Rack Bauer]

Couple of facts about Texas...


Texas is the only state that can fly their flag lvl with the US flag.


Texas is the only state that can "Legally" leave the US.


Texas is the greatest country on the planet. :D




If you end up in South Texas, be prepared for the hottest weather you've ever experienced. The Dallas area is hot, but it's nice compared to South Texas. Trickblue is right though, the winters in Texas are nice. I don't know about North Texas, but here in South Texas we get what people call "Winter Texans", people that live here only for the winter. This year, as far as I know, we didn't have a single day of 32 or below temperature here in Laredo.

[Signals]

If you don't mind me asking... what is the name of the Co. you work for?

[peplaw06]

Did you have a helicopter?

Maybe I should clarify... this is in optimal conditions with no major traffic hangups. I made it in just over an hour from Calabasas to Anaheim... about 1:10 IIRC... it was early on a Saturday morning. Then we made it one time in around 1:30 with a stop off at LAX on the way, around the same time of day on a Sunday. I actually like driving in the big city, if that tells you anything about how I drive :D

I've taken trips from North Dallas/Plano area to North Ft Worth that took 45 min.

[CowboyFan74]

3,200 SQ FT home in a nice suburb like Grapevine only costs $300,000 and it's close to a nice big lake where the honey's sport it:D

[Crown Royal]

Maybe I should clarify... this is in optimal conditions with no major traffic hangups. I made it in just over an hour from Calabasas to Anaheim... about 1:10 IIRC... it was early on a Saturday morning. Then we made it one time in around 1:30 with a stop off at LAX on the way, around the same time of day on a Sunday. I actually like driving in the big city, if that tells you anything about how I drive :D

I've taken trips from North Dallas/Plano area to North Ft Worth that took 45 min.

The Dallas thing is easy.

But I was in LA for 4 months, and, yeah - thanks for the clarification. M-F, no way do you make that time.

[Juke99]

But you can't get pizza like you do here in NY....

Or bagels...

or...uh...uhm...

I pay $13,000 per year in real estate taxes for pizza and bagels. :bang2:

[CowboyFan74]

I pay $13,000 per year in real estate taxes for pizza and bagels. :bang2:

Socialism..

[theebs]

But you can't get pizza like you do here in NY....

Or bagels...

or...uh...uhm...

I pay $13,000 per year in real estate taxes for pizza and bagels. :bang2:


man I miss fresh bagels. I had this great place up the street from me called the bagel grove. They made them fresh every morning. My dad and I used to go and get everything bagels every sunday.

[NYCowboy22]

Juke that is crazy. The taxes are just insane, especially if you don't have kids and aren't utilizing the school systems etc...

I am seriously considering the move in the future, but defiently have to visit first. I may even try to get on a project in the Dallas area just to see how I like it. The only real forseeable drawback is that my family wouldn't be making the move with me.

It is truly amazing what $1 Mil buys you in Dallas as far as houses go... 6000+ square ft beautifully designed with great features and finishes. Compare that to what you get in the nicer parts of LI, Queens and Brooklyn and it's really depressing. AND THE TAXES, MY GOD THE TAXES :( .

I make pretty good money for someone my age and once my girlfriend graduates, she will be making just as much, if not more. I currently live at home and live a pretty simple lifestyle. In 5 years, me and my girlfriend can defiently manage to come up with a down payment on a house... Only our money will go a lot further in the Dallas area. It really does look like a beautiful place to live... I never knew backyards existed where you could take more than 20 steps in one direction :laugh2:

I will miss the Pizza and the fresh baked bread though (nothing like New York water.)

I've heard from a few people that texans usually look down upon people who come from a big city... Is there any truth to that? Also I don's suppose there are many Italians in the Dallas area ;) Is there anything in particular I should know about? It gets pretty heated in some parts of NY with all the discrimination etc... You would be able to pick me out in a heart beat with my accent.

[Rack Bauer]

Juke that is crazy. The taxes are just insane, especially if you don't have kids and aren't utilizing the school systems etc...

I am seriously considering the move in the future, but defiently have to visit first. I may even try to get on a project in the Dallas area just to see how I like it. The only real forseeable drawback is that my family wouldn't be making the move with me.

It is truly amazing what $1 Mil buys you in Dallas as far as houses go... 6000+ square ft beautifully designed with great features and finishes. Compare that to what you get in the nicer parts of LI, Queens and Brooklyn and it's really depressing. AND THE TAXES, MY GOD THE TAXES :( .

I make pretty good money for someone my age and once my girlfriend graduates, she will be making just as much, if not more. I currently live at home and live a pretty simple lifestyle. In 5 years, me and my girlfriend can defiently manage to come up with a down payment on a house... Only our money will go a lot further in the Dallas area. It really does look like a beautiful place to live... I never knew backyards existed where you could take more than 20 steps in one direction :laugh2:

I will miss the Pizza and the fresh baked bread though (nothing like New York water.)

I've heard from a few people that texans usually look down upon people who come from a big city... Is there any truth to that? Also I don's suppose there are many Italians in the Dallas area ;) Is there anything in particular I should know about? It gets pretty heated in some parts of NY with all the discrimination etc... You would be able to pick me out in a heart beat with my accent.

It depends what part of Texas you move to. You won't have that problem in Dallas IMO. Nor in San Antonio. At one point SA was called "the melting pot of america". A very diverse (is that the right word?) city. Not much discrimination at all there. And a very nice city too. Austin is another very nice city where you won't have that problem.

[Juke99]

Socialism..

Nah...insanity.

[Juke99]

man I miss fresh bagels. I had this great place up the street from me called the bagel grove. They made them fresh every morning. My dad and I used to go and get everything bagels every sunday.

Get someone to Fedex fresh ones to ya....you'll have to pop them in the microwave the next day...or toast them...but hey, it's the next best option

[Juke99]

Juke that is crazy. The taxes are just insane, especially if you don't have kids and aren't utilizing the school systems etc...

I am seriously considering the move in the future, but defiently have to visit first. I may even try to get on a project in the Dallas area just to see how I like it. The only real forseeable drawback is that my family wouldn't be making the move with me.

It is truly amazing what $1 Mil buys you in Dallas as far as houses go... 6000+ square ft beautifully designed with great features and finishes. Compare that to what you get in the nicer parts of LI, Queens and Brooklyn and it's really depressing. AND THE TAXES, MY GOD THE TAXES :( .

I make pretty good money for someone my age and once my girlfriend graduates, she will be making just as much, if not more. I currently live at home and live a pretty simple lifestyle. In 5 years, me and my girlfriend can defiently manage to come up with a down payment on a house... Only our money will go a lot further in the Dallas area. It really does look like a beautiful place to live... I never knew backyards existed where you could take more than 20 steps in one direction :laugh2:

I will miss the Pizza and the fresh baked bread though (nothing like New York water.)

I've heard from a few people that texans usually look down upon people who come from a big city... Is there any truth to that? Also I don's suppose there are many Italians in the Dallas area ;) Is there anything in particular I should know about? It gets pretty heated in some parts of NY with all the discrimination etc... You would be able to pick me out in a heart beat with my accent.


Not many Italians are nicknamed "Tex" :D

I started looking in North Carolina because this NY stuff is nutz.

Funny thing about the pizza...I dated someone from Washington who asked me to fedex her a Sicilian pizza....so I order one...ran home with it...popped it in the freezer and then later that day, took it to FedEx..she said when she got it the next morning it was still cold.

So...you might do the same.

As far as real estate, my home is worth $750,000....2400 sq feet. It's nice...Hos has seen it when he visited NY....but it ain't worth $3/4 million.

I've seen what that kind of money can buy out of state...it's mind boggling.

[trickblue]

Not many Italians are nicknamed "Tex" :D

I started looking in North Carolina because this NY stuff is nutz.

Funny thing about the pizza...I dated someone from Washington who asked me to fedex her a Sicilian pizza....so I order one...ran home with it...popped it in the freezer and then later that day, took it to FedEx..she said when she got it the next morning it was still cold.

So...you might do the same.

As far as real estate, my home is worth $750,000....2400 sq feet. It's nice...Hos has seen it when he visited NY....but it ain't worth $3/4 million.

I've seen what that kind of money can buy out of state...it's mind boggling.

I used to travel the country on business for 8 years and it WAS mind boggling to see property values and taxes around the country...

Texas is extremely reasonable in comparison. I just recently built a new home in a restricted neighborhood on 4 acres for less than $200,000...

[Crown Royal]

I've heard from a few people that texans usually look down upon people who come from a big city... Is there any truth to that? Also I don's suppose there are many Italians in the Dallas area ;) Is there anything in particular I should know about? It gets pretty heated in some parts of NY with all the discrimination etc... You would be able to pick me out in a heart beat with my accent.

No, no & no.

1) Dallas is not NY, but it isn't a small city either.
2) Maybe if you go out into Farmer Jim Bob's ranch and start talking politics you'll get that 'Big City' thing, but not in Dallas or Austin or Houston or San Antonio. That's just silly.
3) There are Italians, but I don't think a lot of them go by Vinny, or speak Sicilian to do business, etc. Not NY Italian at least. But there is every nationality/race in Dallas.
4) I have had the experience to travel nationwide over the last 1.5 years. The shocking thing about the travels isn't how different everyone is - it's how much everyone is more the same than they would care to admit.

[ArmyCowboy]

Don't know too much about Dallas/Houston, but I bought my house in El Paso in '96 for $82,000. It was just appraised at $124,000. I'm making nearly $200 per month profit off the rent and I'll have it paid off by 2013, when I eligible to retire from the Army.

You do the math.

[Juke99]

I used to travel the country on business for 8 years and it WAS mind boggling to see property values and taxes around the country...

Texas is extremely reasonable in comparison. I just recently built a new home in a restricted neighborhood on 4 acres for less than $200,000...

Oh, shut up.

[SA_Gunslinger]

it's tough to imagine living anywhere else.

i'll speak for san antonio!!! this city is on the move in a big, big way. when i moved away it was more of a large town, and now it is one of the largest cities in the country....and still growing rapidly.

toyota and microsoft have set up shop here....big rumors about disney coming, too.

we're the number one city for tourism in the state, which i don't mind b/c there are constantly cool out of towners hanging around. i mean, come on....the riverwalk? there is nothing like that anywhere else in this country. i never get sick of it.

we got final fours, big 12 football championship, alamobowl, cowboys training camp, of course the spurs....and dollar beers every thursday for the local minor league baseball team. beat that in ny!!!!!!!!

hell, we even have hockey.

this place is heaven on earth, man.


oh, and for what it is worth...i came back from PA, and my car insurance dropped $500/ year.

[jimmy40]

There isn't one Texas, but several.

Your experience in downtown Houston would be much different from a north Dallas suburb, which would differ from life in North Zulch, Lubbock, or Corpus Christi.

You might want to ask specifically about your likely relocation area.
North Zulch, pronounced Norzulch.

How in the hell did North Zulch get into your post?

[ZeroClub]

North Zulch, pronounced Norzulch.

How in the hell did North Zulch get into your post?
The fishing is legendary just a bit north of there.

I'm sure you've heard of the landing at Normangee.

[jimmy40]

The fishing is legendary just a bit north of there.

I'm sure you've heard of the landing at Normangee.I've heard of some good fishing there but the only thing I go to Normangee for is to play golf at Hilltop Lakes.

[HTownCowboysFan]

I am 21 years old and have lived in NY all my life and not sure if it's the place for me. My company has its main HQ in Texas and I'm a diehard Cowboy fan to boot. Please sell me on Texas.

The main things I hate about NY are:

Insane traffic (I spend 3 hours a day commuting)
Population density
Insane gun laws
Insanely high prices (decent house in a nice neighborhood is running you a minimum of 800K)
Car insurance
Giants fans
Crime

What I Like:

Everything is at your finger tips


Tell me everything good or bad about Texas.

How much are season tickets? It costs me 500+ for 2 decent seats just to watch the boys play at Giants Stadium.


LETS HEAR IT!

It's not NY ;) (which I love btw). Bad, the summer heat. Besides that, can't think of anything bad about the state. :) :starspin