View Full Version : Ok... what 50" Plasma TV do I want?
smarta5150
05-01-2007, 09:36 PM
I am looking to keep it under $2,000.
Yeagermeister
05-01-2007, 09:37 PM
The most expensive one :D
smarta5150
05-01-2007, 09:44 PM
The most expensive one :D
Thanks!
I appreciate the information.
Anyone else?
:rolleyes:
Sadly, your advise is pretty on point.
I should have expanded though... I am also looking for a reliable internet website to buy from since they are generally cheaper.
Also, I was hoping I could get some advise on what brands to look into.
Yeagermeister
05-01-2007, 09:47 PM
My youngest tv is over 10 yrs old and only a cable ready tv. :o:
smarta5150
05-01-2007, 09:49 PM
My youngest tv is over 10 yrs old and only a cable ready tv. :o:
Damn, older than me ;)
Rack Bauer
05-01-2007, 10:08 PM
I am looking to keep it under $2,000.
You don't want a plasma.
You want to get the 50" DLP widescreen samsung HDTV. The new one that supports 1080p. It goes for $1500.
Rack Bauer
05-01-2007, 10:10 PM
Thanks!
I appreciate the information.
Anyone else?
:rolleyes:
Sadly, your advise is pretty on point.
I should have expanded though... I am also looking for a reliable internet website to buy from since they are generally cheaper.
Also, I was hoping I could get some advise on what brands to look into.
The shipping price will kill you. Better to get it at a store so you have a place you can physically take the TV too if it needs to be fixed/replaced.
trickblue
05-01-2007, 10:11 PM
I have the HP PL5060N...
It was about $3k when it came out new... You can score them now for under 2k...
Depending on exact manufacturer date, they are either made by Panasonic or Philips...
We've been VERY pleased with ours...
Another thing to watch. Ours is black, flat black. The reason that manufacturers make them predominately silver is that the black level looks darker against the silver frame...
Don't be fooled, you will notice with all of the lights out...
ROMOSAPIEN9
05-01-2007, 10:12 PM
Thanks!
I appreciate the information.
Anyone else?
:rolleyes:
Sadly, your advise is pretty on point.
I should have expanded though... I am also looking for a reliable internet website to buy from since they are generally cheaper.
Also, I was hoping I could get some advise on what brands to look into.
SAMSUNG
trickblue
05-01-2007, 10:13 PM
You don't want a plasma.
You want to get the 50" DLP widescreen samsung HDTV. The new one that supports 1080p. It goes for $1500.
There are pros and cons against both dlp and plasma...
It is largely preference...
trickblue
05-01-2007, 10:15 PM
SAMSUNG
Samsung makes about 90% of the innards of the Sony, so it is a good unit...
Sony, Panasonic and Samsung are all nice units...
Rack Bauer
05-01-2007, 10:15 PM
There are pros and cons against both dlp and plasma...
It is largely preference...
True. I think the DLP's are cheaper though (compared to an equal performing plasma).
I have two 50" samsung DLPs (also got them when they were 3K) and I'm extremely happy with them.
smarta5150
05-01-2007, 10:16 PM
There are pros and cons against both dlp and plasma...
It is largely preference...
I cant hang a DLP on my wall, right? :confused:
I am sticking to Plasma.
the kid 05
05-01-2007, 10:23 PM
I cant hang a DLP on my wall, right? :confused:
I am sticking to Plasma.
DLP - Plasma - LCD's can all be hung on walls i believe. My uncle just bought a 50" plasma dual hdmi ports and all the latest stuff for 1600 at sams club
trickblue
05-01-2007, 10:23 PM
True. I think the DLP's are cheaper though (compared to an equal performing plasma).
I have two 50" samsung DLPs (also got them when they were 3K) and I'm extremely happy with them.
Rack is right, the sets look GREAT. I particulalry like the JVC line on brightness, but herein lies the difference.
You have to change lamps on DLP's at some point. and until that point they continue to degrade....
I cant hang a DLP on my wall, right? :confused:
I am sticking to Plasma.
Normally you can't... althought thin, DLP units are normally desktop models...
trickblue
05-01-2007, 10:25 PM
DLP - Plasma - LCD's can all be hung on walls i believe. My uncle just bought a 50" plasma dual hdmi ports and all the latest stuff for 1600 at sams club
Generally, to this point, DLP and LCD aren't wall units... at least in the larger sizes...
smarta5150
05-01-2007, 10:33 PM
So no one around here can make one fall of the back of the truck?
And I though this forum would have some connections ;)
Thanks for the responses though guys, didn't think i would get some many replies in this short of time.
Rack Bauer
05-01-2007, 11:23 PM
I cant hang a DLP on my wall, right? :confused:
I am sticking to Plasma.
Yes you can.
Rack is right, the sets look GREAT. I particulalry like the JVC line on brightness, but herein lies the difference.
You have to change lamps on DLP's at some point. and until that point they continue to degrade....
Normally you can't... althought thin, DLP units are normally desktop models...
Plasmas degrade as well. And it's a helluva lot easier to change a light bulb (essentially) in a DLP then it is to ... do whatever it is they do to Plasmas when they go "bad".
Generally, to this point, DLP and LCD aren't wall units... at least in the larger sizes...
I have an LCD tv hanging from a wall right now. It's a TV, not a monitor.
Kendo
05-02-2007, 01:10 AM
Just got a Sony 46" lcd that can be hung on the wall and it absolutely rocks. I thought that dlp's were a little thicker than the lcd's but I could be wrong. The advantage of dlp and lcd is that they support 1080p which is the highest level of high def available I believe. There are some plasmas that support 1080p but they are in the $10k range last I checked. Even still, 1080p right now is only available through blue-ray players (and HD-DVD I think) which costs another huge chunk of change.
I have cox cable and it comes through at 1080i which looks pretty nice and to be honest to the untrained eye looks the same as 1080p. I can however tell the difference between that and 780p which is the regular high def. My advice would be to check costco. They have bi-weekly specials and with the right coupon you can get a sweet deal. I almost pulled the trigger on a 52" Sharp acquos for around $2500, but I ended up getting the nicer Sony and paying more. Of course I had to then have the PS3 with blue-ray.
I don't go out as much any more:)
Danny White
05-02-2007, 09:24 AM
I am looking to keep it under $2,000.
I recently got the Panasonic 50" plasma and didn't pay much more than $2000 for it.
I bought it from newegg.com and they threw in the shipping for free!
It's a great TV... excellent picture and no complaints whatsoever.
theebs
05-02-2007, 09:39 AM
well if money wasnt an issue Fujitsu or pioneer elite.
Since money is an issue, I would get a panasonic. I think the 50px60u is around 2k now. I have the 600U. I love it. Great tv so far. no complaints.
No dlp can be hung on the wall, flat lcd's can be. The lcd's suffer from poor blacks and these still run on bulbs so you may have bulbs dying out on you.
I reccomend the plasma in all cases unless you are going to use it to play video games. Dont do that and never leave static images on the screen. After about 1000 hours they are free of burn in, but you can still get some image retention.
So if you are looking for something to hang on the wall your only options are flat lcd and plasma. The largest flat lcd's are 46inches. So if you want 50 or more get a plasma.
I would reccomend staying away from samsung, I dont think anything they make is made very well. So I would recommend the panasonic or the regular pioneer line, not the elite because of your budet. And if you can find the low line of hitachi they are great too.
trickblue
05-02-2007, 10:16 AM
Plasmas degrade as well. And it's a helluva lot easier to change a light bulb (essentially) in a DLP then it is to ... do whatever it is they do to Plasmas when they go "bad".
Plasma's are now rated have a life longer than tube TV's and equal to LCD. Mine is rated at 60,000 hours to half life. That's around 30 years with normal use.
Dissipation/fading starts the minute you turn the plasma on. After about 1000 hours of use a plasma should measure around 96% of its original brightness, which is barely noticeable to the naked eye. At 15,000 to 20,000 hours the monitor should measure around 80% brightness.
DLP's look great but the lamps have to be replaced. You can figure between 1000-2000 hours. Depending on watching habits it can be as little as 500 hours or 3000 hours.
Lamps start at around $200 and up.
LCD TV's are great, I own one of those as well. Up to around 40" they are very close to Plasma in image quality. Over 40" it isn't nearly as close, especially in black levels, although Sony and Samsung are closing the gap. Incidentally, Samsung makes about 80% of the Sony "innards".
One other thing to consider. Sharp is the only manufacturer that currently has replaceable lamps in their LCD units (That's why I own a Sharp). The lamps are fluorescent and they last a long time, but if yours isn't a Sharp then it goes in the trash when the light burns out. Now it SHOULD last upwards of 60,000 but it isn't a guarantee (except under manufacturers standard warranty). I'm sure more manufacturers will provide for this soon.
I have an LCD tv hanging from a wall right now. It's a TV, not a monitor.
As do I, but it is not a 50" unit. They are now starting to come out with larger LCD's that can be hung on the wall, but until recently they were primarily rp units that were too deep to be hung on the wall.
Duane
05-02-2007, 11:31 AM
Great place for info:
http://www.hometheaterspot.com/index.php
ChldsPlay
05-02-2007, 07:08 PM
I'm with Rack on this one.
Get the Samsung DLP. Though, forget 50", get the 61" like I did.
Signals
05-02-2007, 07:36 PM
Go to:
http://www.consumerreports.org
Very reliable source of info.
Rack Bauer
05-02-2007, 11:01 PM
Plasma's are now rated have a life longer than tube TV's and equal to LCD. Mine is rated at 60,000 hours to half life. That's around 30 years with normal use.
Dissipation/fading starts the minute you turn the plasma on. After about 1000 hours of use a plasma should measure around 96% of its original brightness, which is barely noticeable to the naked eye. At 15,000 to 20,000 hours the monitor should measure around 80% brightness.
DLP's look great but the lamps have to be replaced. You can figure between 1000-2000 hours. Depending on watching habits it can be as little as 500 hours or 3000 hours.
Lamps start at around $200 and up.
LCD TV's are great, I own one of those as well. Up to around 40" they are very close to Plasma in image quality. Over 40" it isn't nearly as close, especially in black levels, although Sony and Samsung are closing the gap. Incidentally, Samsung makes about 80% of the Sony "innards".
One other thing to consider. Sharp is the only manufacturer that currently has replaceable lamps in their LCD units (That's why I own a Sharp). The lamps are fluorescent and they last a long time, but if yours isn't a Sharp then it goes in the trash when the light burns out. Now it SHOULD last upwards of 60,000 but it isn't a guarantee (except under manufacturers standard warranty). I'm sure more manufacturers will provide for this soon.
As do I, but it is not a 50" unit. They are now starting to come out with larger LCD's that can be hung on the wall, but until recently they were primarily rp units that were too deep to be hung on the wall.
That's completely false. I've had one of my DLPs for 3 years and the other one for 2 1/2 years, both of them get used DAILY and I've never replaced a bulb on either of them.
I have a HP DLP 58" and Im very pleased....its does 720 p or 1080i.....
After researching for months I found the Sony LCD to be the best but I ended with the DLP because of the price....Picture looked great also....but I should of went with my first instinct because HP soon dicountinued this product :(
Both DLP and LCD's rear projection units have bulbs to replace.....Ive read many message boards where they do not last the rated times....and some brands are more expensive then others......you just have to be lucky with these bulbs I guess.
That being said...I dont know what gives the best picture...for me it was the Sony LCD....but I cant imagine it giving me a better picture I have with my HP DLP.....in high def.....SD channels...well thats another story. :(
Most TV's now....do 1080p.....it will be a long while I assume before networks broadcast in 1080p....all HD now is in 1080i format and Ive been told or read that when u sit back about 10-15 ft away from ur big screen there isnt much difference in PQ.
I would stick to a name brand and compare the pro and cons of these units...some look better in well lit rooms....others in darker rooms....check the contrast ratio on these units also...
DLP >>>> Samsung....Hitachi
LCD>>>>>>Sony,Panisonic
Plasma>>>>? I dont really know...sorry...
trickblue
05-03-2007, 02:50 PM
That's completely false. I've had one of my DLPs for 3 years and the other one for 2 1/2 years, both of them get used DAILY and I've never replaced a bulb on either of them.
That's fine Rack... great for you...
I'm not going to argue with you any more about it. I merely took manufacturer's specs and tried to give info to a member that asked. I didn't expect to get into a video war with you.
I stated that it matters your viewing habits. As I said, direct your anger towards the manufacturer, not me...
Doomsday
05-03-2007, 03:16 PM
Most LCDs are lighter then plasma's, I didnt have any trouble mounting my 47" LCD to the wall.
I have a media PC, Xbox 360 and PS3 so I went with a LCD, if you are NOT going to be hookinig up a PC or doing a lot of gaming then I would go with a plasma otherwise an LCD is the way to go. If you are hooking up a PC to it then 1080p is the only way to go, there is a big difference viewing 1920x1080 (1080p) as apposed to 1366x768 (1080i).
Another good source for info on specific models, some of the posters on this site are pretty intense.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=9
Dallas
05-03-2007, 04:58 PM
DLP - Plasma - LCD's can all be hung on walls i believe. My uncle just bought a 50" plasma dual hdmi ports and all the latest stuff for 1600 at sams club
DLP's do not get hung on the wall. :D
Dallas
05-03-2007, 04:59 PM
That's fine Rack... great for you...
I'm not going to argue with you any more about it. I merely took manufacturer's specs and tried to give info to a member that asked. I didn't expect to get into a video war with you.
I stated that it matters your viewing habits. As I said, direct your anger towards the manufacturer, not me...
LMAO
Argueing w/ Rack? Please! /ignore him. Its quieter.
Rack Bauer
05-04-2007, 02:46 AM
That's fine Rack... great for you...
I'm not going to argue with you any more about it. I merely took manufacturer's specs and tried to give info to a member that asked. I didn't expect to get into a video war with you.
I stated that it matters your viewing habits. As I said, direct your anger towards the manufacturer, not me...
What makes you think I'm angry? You posted something false and I corrected you. Nothing more, nothing less. Accusing me of being "Angry" about it won't change that fact.
You ok, TB? Seriously, what makes you think I was angry?
LMAO
Argueing w/ Rack? Please! /ignore him. Its quieter.
:rolleyes:
smarta5150
05-06-2007, 07:06 PM
I am going to get the 50" Panasonic, the 60u.
On sale right now at 6th Ave. for $1548.
It doesn't have 1080p but the only real use for that right now is Blu Ray which is way too much at this point. If I was gonna get a PS3 I would get the other version of this TV but I'm not interested.
ChldsPlay
05-06-2007, 07:32 PM
If you're getting an HDTV, why wouldn't you be interested in Blu-Ray, at least at some point when the players are cheaper?
smarta5150
05-06-2007, 07:41 PM
If you're getting an HDTV, why wouldn't you be interested in Blu-Ray, at least at some point when the players are cheaper?
I would be but the players are $500 and up and the TVs that support 1080p are an extra $300+
ChldsPlay
05-06-2007, 07:43 PM
Ok, that's fair. Just thought it would be weird if you never cared about Blu-Ray even when they're cheaper. But I can definately understand passing on 1080p though as it really won't make much difference.
smarta5150
05-06-2007, 07:47 PM
Ok, that's fair. Just thought it would be weird if you never cared about Blu-Ray even when they're cheaper. But I can definately understand passing on 1080p though as it really won't make much difference.
My next plasma will have 1080p ;)
Mavs Man
05-06-2007, 10:42 PM
My youngest tv is over 10 yrs old and only a cable ready tv. :o:
Hey, I've got that beat. Our only TV is the one I got for Christmas on my 10th birthday. The remote has teeth marks from a dog I had years ago, but otherwise it's in the same condition it was in 14 years ago.
But yeah, we're in the market for an upgrade.
trickblue
05-06-2007, 11:00 PM
What makes you think I'm angry? You posted something false and I corrected you. Nothing more, nothing less. Accusing me of being "Angry" about it won't change that fact.
You ok, TB? Seriously, what makes you think I was angry?
:rolleyes:
ummm... yeah...I just merely pointed out manufactures specs... that's all...
As I said... take issue with them...
smarta5150
05-06-2007, 11:03 PM
ummm... yeah...I just merely pointed out manufactures specs... that's all...
As I said... take issue with them...
You probably read the specs wrong :D;)
CowboyFan74
05-07-2007, 12:57 AM
True. I think the DLP's are cheaper though (compared to an equal performing plasma).
I have two 50" samsung DLPs (also got them when they were 3K) and I'm extremely happy with them.
No wonder you can't finish that car project:D
smarta5150
05-07-2007, 01:09 AM
No wonder you can't finish that car project:D
Easy he is touchy about that :eek:
CowboyFan74
05-07-2007, 01:10 AM
So no one around here can make one fall of the back of the truck?
And I though this forum would have some connections ;)
.
www.craigslist.com
I've seen ads that say, "Brand New in the Box.";)
CowboyFan74
05-07-2007, 01:13 AM
Easy he is touchy about that :eek:
I know him from high school. He knows I'm not being malicious...:D
Danny White
05-07-2007, 10:29 AM
I am going to get the 50" Panasonic, the 60u.
On sale right now at 6th Ave. for $1548.
It doesn't have 1080p but the only real use for that right now is Blu Ray which is way too much at this point. If I was gonna get a PS3 I would get the other version of this TV but I'm not interested.
Great choice! That's the exact TV I have, and I couldn't be happier with it. And that's a great price too!
Here's the mount I bought for that TV. It's very flat (close to the wall) and was as simple as can be to install.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16882160005
Bonecrusher#31
05-07-2007, 11:35 AM
Get a '47 LCD Vizio for around $1600
I bought one for my bedroom 2 months ago and its beautiful and blows away my '65 DLP Mitsubishi thats downstairs.....
Its not even close.;)
Rack Bauer
05-07-2007, 06:12 PM
No wonder you can't finish that car project:D
Hey! I haven't even had the car a year, some people take 10+ years to finish their car!
:D
I know him from high school. He knows I'm not being malicious...:D
Yeah you're lucky your chick in highschool had the best arse I've ever seen in my life. Greatness I tell ya, Greatness!
CowboyFan74
05-07-2007, 07:37 PM
Hey! I haven't even had the car a year, some people take 10+ years to finish their car!
:D
Yeah you're lucky your chick in highschool had the best arse I've ever seen in my life. Greatness I tell ya, Greatness!
Dude I'm gonna be in Laredo this weekend, by any chance do you know any insurance brokers down there? or any good Escorts?? j/k:D
Rack Bauer
05-07-2007, 11:32 PM
Dude I'm gonna be in Laredo this weekend, by any chance do you know any insurance brokers down there? or any good Escorts?? j/k:D
I know an escort in San Antonio. :D
She's my gf's ex friend. Girl turned cucu.
Insurance brokers? Sorry, can't help there, Bro.
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