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Wulfman
09-24-2004, 12:07 PM
[BEGIN of PC]

Fire away, guys.

Randal Williams may be able to go this week if I want to do it. He’s been knocked around and knocked down on his shoulder a couple of times. I’m not sure it would be the smartest thing to do. He looks pretty good, but it may not be the smart thing. If he does play, he won’t cover kickoffs.

Ward is very useful, as is Williams, because they are both smart and know three positions. Crayton is not there yet, as you might expect. Ward can return punts, although he’s not dynamic, and could fill in as a kick returner. Williams plays one of the biggest positions on special teams, in the coverage team.

Crayton is learning, and his biggest contribution would be as a punt returner. But he’s got good hands, he really does. I have some high hopes for him. I really do. I’ve got 3 or 4 of those guys around here.

Ward was able to be used some to spell Glenn, and I think that’s why he had some gas left in his tank on that last drive. I don’t know that, but it looked that way.

It’s hard to tell right now about the importance of winning division games vs. winning conference games. Of course, you want to win your division, but you can’t lessen the importance of those conference games at this point.

I don’t remember not having contact with the Maras on any given day when I was with the Giants. So that’s very similar to being here. When Bob Kraft took over in New England, he was much the same. So it hasn’t been a big deal working with Jerry.

There won’t be much that we’ll change with Arrington out. They won’t change much—they’ll just put his back-up in and go. So we’ll prepare that way.

Richie and Tyson are both looking pretty good in practice.

(Punter) Tupa is a versatile guy for them. I like him personally, he’s really a high-grade kid. He played some QB, and he’s smart.

I had heard a year or two ago that made me think that Gibbs was considering coming back, but it wasn’t from him. It was from hearsay from someone I knew, and that knew him. But I was still surprised when I heard he was coming back. It’s hard to explain what it’s like for us (Vermeil, myself, Marty {Schottenheimer}, etc.). We know that it’s not going to last forever. I don’t think he would have come back anywhere else, like for the Eagles. {Talked about Gibbs decision, in his own opinion.} We are transient now. If you don’t go, you sometimes shut yourself off from moving up or moving on. I saw it happen in basketball and baseball, and I knew it was coming. When free agency hit, I knew it was coming. The important thing is if the ownership and coaches are on the same page. Division of any kind is the first thing that will tear a team down.

Jerry does not make suggestions to the game plan. But he does want to know what we do. He loves football. Mara was like that as well.

I think there could be a length of time that you could get the game out of your system. But I don’t look back. This game is that you test yourself. There’s no gray area in this business. You can’t do poorly and expect no one to notice. If you do poorly here, people know it.

I start looking at team statistics right away to get an idea of trends. I mentioned the passes being thrown more from outside the pocket. This team (Washington) is getting a lot of pressure from the blitz. But whether they will continue to do that is unknown. They’ll bring more pressure than either of the teams we’ve played. {Comments about chewing ice in front of the microphone.}

Morton back there to return kicks is enough to scare me. I tried to trade for him the same summer he was drafted.

Gurode has done more, but he’s not full out yet, so I doubt he’ll play this week. Next time should be different. Al (Johnson) will start.

There is an official Coach’s Club out there. I’m not a member of it. {Talked about some of his admiration for Gibbs. Said that if the Cowboys were out of the playoffs, he’d have a hard time pulling against him. Doesn’t necessarily pull for other coaches, but tends to want well for the guys he has coached with.}

You can ask any player in there could tell you what we need to do to be successful. Now the players are concentrating on their job on Tuesday, and who they’re playing against. They get occupied on the specifics. But by the end of the week, you hope they pull it together so you don’t have concentration lapses. But I can’t tell you how they respond…the test is yet to come.

I trust Vinny more than the others, because he’s got 20 years more experience. You have to trust your QB. Whether you want to go with Romo as a back-up or not doesn’t matter, because it’s what you have to do. And I’ve talked with him about that nearly every day.

I can’t really comment on S Sean Taylor because I haven’t seen enough of him. I knew we weren’t going to get him, so I didn’t look as closely. We looked at Miami, of course, but I just haven’t seen enough of him yet.

There are things that either get you off track or on track that you don’t expect. In this league with the cap, you can allow yourself to try to practice soft all the time to protect the players. And before you know it, there’s just an intensity missing. And you’ve got to watch that. And then you get hit in the face with that skunk, and you smell it. That happens pretty much every year. Last week, my defense was getting beat up by the media. And rightfully so. But the last guy that needs to beat them up is me. So I didn’t beat them up. We didn’t change anything, we just played better. I made sure the players had gas, and they played better.

I don’t know why the Redskins have fallen off later in games, after scoring on their first drive in each of their first two games. But that tells me they were well-prepared for the game. But you can’t turn the ball over and expect to win. I like Ramsey, I really do, as a player. He’s a big strong-armed guy and he’s smart.

{Mumbled something about having good energy defensively as he walked away.}

[END of PC]

Waffle
09-24-2004, 12:21 PM
Thanks Wulfman!!!

kmd24
09-24-2004, 12:21 PM
Gurode has done more, but he’s not full out yet, so I doubt he’ll play this week. Next time should be different. Al (Johnson) will start.

Is this implying that Johnson will start at guard, or was he just talking about Al starting over Tyson at C?

Mr Cowboy
09-24-2004, 12:26 PM
Is this implying that Johnson will start at guard, or was he just talking about Al starting over Tyson at C?

Johnson will start at C...

k19
09-24-2004, 12:45 PM
As always.....Thanks Wulf

Cbz40
09-24-2004, 12:49 PM
Thanks again Wulf

Boy's fan in Giant land
09-24-2004, 12:57 PM
A great job as always Wulf. Thank you.
That's an AWESOME sig pic Vinny. I know alot of people didn't much care for the Keyshaun acquisition, but ya' gotta love him for what he brings to the team.

Eddie
09-24-2004, 01:18 PM
A great job as always Wulf. Thank you.
That's an AWESOME sig pic Vinny. I know alot of people didn't much care for the Keyshaun acquisition, but ya' gotta love him for what he brings to the team.


I agree. Key has opened up the passing game and his presense lifts the play of AB and Glenn.

adbutcher
09-24-2004, 01:23 PM
Super job! You are a Godsend.

Mattsdad
09-24-2004, 01:43 PM
Wulf, once again thank you; appreciate the time you take to put this together for us 'news junkies'.

jacs
09-24-2004, 02:42 PM
thanks for the recap Wulf

Prancer
09-24-2004, 02:53 PM
Thanks for the recap. I missed the first 15 minutes with trivial work. You're the man.

Nors
09-24-2004, 03:32 PM
I trust Vinny more than the others, because he’s got 20 years more experience. You have to trust your QB. Whether you want to go with Romo as a back-up or not doesn’t matter, because it’s what you have to do. And I’ve talked with him about that nearly every day.

Cryptic Bill

Why is he talking to him every day? He made a similar statement in offseason about getting Romo ready for what he is going to get into.

junk
09-24-2004, 05:24 PM
I trust Vinny more than the others, because he’s got 20 years more experience. You have to trust your QB. Whether you want to go with Romo as a back-up or not doesn’t matter, because it’s what you have to do. And I’ve talked with him about that nearly every day.

Cryptic Bill

Why is he talking to him every day? He made a similar statement in offseason about getting Romo ready for what he is going to get into.

I think Bill is being realistic. In all probability Vinny will go down for a game or two. In that stretch, it is probably Romo's chance to step up and shine. I think Henson has more overall talent, but at this point, it is probably more prudent to play Romo if it is just for a short stretch.

BP has prepare Romo for that and keep him on his toes. Good backup play for a quarter, half, game or couple of games could mean the difference between a playoff berth and staying at home.

TruBlueCowboy
09-24-2004, 05:28 PM
Thanks again for another excellent PC summary Wulf. I don't even listen to those things anymore. I just read Wulfman's cliff notes. :D

LaTunaNostra
09-24-2004, 05:34 PM
Cryptic Bill

Why is he talking to him every day?

You make it sound like you just found out JFK and Fidel were having a tete a tete every day during the Bay of Pigs.

Nors, talking every day to the player who is a mere pinched nerve or bruised thumb away from manning a team's most critical position is what......?

Wierd? Conspiratorial? A waste of breath?

Nors
09-24-2004, 05:42 PM
You make it sound like you just found out JFK and Fidel were having a tete a tete every day during the Bay of Pigs.

Nors, talking every day to the player who is a mere pinched nerve or bruised thumb away from manning a team's most critical position is what......?

Wierd? Conspiratorial? A waste of breath?

That candidly he may be thinking of playing Romo this year. It also shut the door on Henson playing.

You awant to read into that article there are nuggets GALORE.

He spoke of JJ in a different way,lumped him in with Kraft and Mara!

LaTunaNostra
09-24-2004, 06:00 PM
OK, this one I'm actually going to try to deconstruct. No agate smashing, I really wanna know, lol.

That candidly he may be thinking of playing Romo this year. It also shut the door on Henson playing.

The use of 'candidly' here - it doesn't work as a synonym for either 'honestly' or 'sincerely'. Are you using it to mean "secretly'? Which would be the opposite meaning, so that's probably it.

He may be thnking of playing Romo when? If and when he has to? Then Tuna should be and is thinking about preparing Tony as well as possible, right? Or are you saying Bill is thinking of playing Tony over Vinnie just for fun? Even if VT doesn't get hurt? Because Bill talks to the guy getting a fair share of the first team snaps on a daily basis, (other head coaches just give their back-up QB the silent treatment), that means exactly what about Henson? A shut door?

You awant to read into that article there are nuggets GALORE.

What article? Wulfie's summary? I always read them carefully, but don't read into them at all. Maybe because I don't think playing mind games is the Wulfman's intent. That's as straight and verbatim a summary as you'll get. Or do you mean we should read into Bill's statements? Nors, that's what you're here for.

BTW, would you care to point out exactly what you see as "nuggets". Then I will ask TrickBlue to photoshop them with Joe Gibbs.

He spoke of JJ in a different way,lumped him in with Kraft and Mara!

What does "in a different way" mean"? A different way from how he usually speaks of him, or different from the way he speaks of other owners? The word 'different' isn't specific enough. The second clause contradicted the first - he spoke of him differently but lumped him in with two previous employers?

Nors, I try, I really do.

But your 'cryptic' way of communicating is an invitation to misunderstanding.

junk
09-24-2004, 07:40 PM
OK, this one I'm actually going to try to deconstruct. No agate smashing, I really wanna know, lol.



The use of 'candidly' here - it doesn't work as a synonym for either 'honestly' or 'sincerely'. Are you using it to mean "secretly'? Which would be the opposite meaning, so that's probably it.

He may be thnking of playing Romo when? If and when he has to? Then Tuna should be and is thinking about preparing Tony as well as possible, right? Or are you saying Bill is thinking of playing Tony over Vinnie just for fun? Even if VT doesn't get hurt? Because Bill talks to the guy getting a fair share of the first team snaps on a daily basis, (other head coaches just give their back-up QB the silent treatment), that means exactly what about Henson? A shut door?



What article? Wulfie's summary? I always read them carefully, but don't read into them at all. Maybe because I don't think playing mind games is the Wulfman's intent. That's as straight and verbatim a summary as you'll get. Or do you mean we should read into Bill's statements? Nors, that's what you're here for.

BTW, would you care to point out exactly what you see as "nuggets". Then I will ask TrickBlue to photoshop them with Joe Gibbs.



What does "in a different way" mean"? A different way from how he usually speaks of him, or different from the way he speaks of other owners? The word 'different' isn't specific enough. The second clause contradicted the first - he spoke of him differently but lumped him in with two previous employers?

Nors, I try, I really do.

But your 'cryptic' way of communicating is an invitation to misunderstanding.

This is the meanest thing I have ever done on here.....but I have to, it is too funny. Nors, here is a selection to check out next week on your lunch hour.

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=of7Kco6APD&isbn=0764553224&itm=1

I am only kidding of course. :D

Nors
09-24-2004, 08:02 PM
His talk on Romo is interesting. In some capacity I feel he believes Romo sees the field this year. capiche? :)



"I don’t remember not having contact with the Maras on any given day when I was with the Giants. So that’s very similar to being here. When Bob Kraft took over in New England, he was much the same. So it hasn’t been a big deal working with Jerry."

Reread his comment on JJ/Kraft. This is new talk from him. Comparing JJ to Kraft :eek: THAT IS A NUGGET, Its apparantly cool to pile on my opinions - but that statement was a new "wordage" from BP.

Yes - my comments were on the Wulfman post that started this thread. I try too LTN

LaTunaNostra
09-24-2004, 08:34 PM
His talk on Romo is interesting. In some capacity I feel he believes Romo sees the field this year. capiche?

Well if Tony sees the field, that puts him one up on Patrick Ramsey.

"I don’t remember not having contact with the Maras on any given day when I was with the Giants. So that’s very similar to being here. When Bob Kraft took over in New England, he was much the same. So it hasn’t been a big deal working with Jerry."

Reread his comment on JJ/Kraft. This is new talk from him. Comparing JJ to Kraft :eek: THAT IS A NUGGET, Its apparantly cool to pile on my opinions - but that statement was a new "wordage" from BP.

Nors, what kind of nugget is the well known fact that Kraft and Jones are both hands on owners? The big dif is Bill came to work for Jerry. He did not decide to go to work for Kraft. It was Orthwein (sic?) who owned the Pats when Bill was hired. And there was friction, apparently, almost from the start when Kraft took over. Remember, Kraft didn't learn his lesson til he drove Bill off and messed up by him with "Booby Grier" calling the shots, not to mention the Pete Carroll mistake. That post-Tuna, pre-Mumbles era was Kraft's post-Jimmy, pre-Tuna period. Both owners have learned something about what they don't know, only unlike Jerry, Kraft was unable to let the hard feelings go, and still takes cracks at Bill at any opportunity.

A 'nugget' would be an allusion that JJ's hands on approach irritates Bill as much as Kraft's instant expert attitude did. And that's not so, and not implied.

Keep trying, Nors.

Love ya, tho. :D

Nors
09-24-2004, 08:48 PM
Well if Tony sees the field, that puts him one up on Patrick Ramsey.



Nors, what kind of nugget is the well known fact that Kraft and Jones are both hands on owners? The big dif is Bill came to work for Jerry. He did not decide to go to work for Kraft. It was Orthwein (sic?) who owned the Pats when Bill was hired. And there was friction, apparently, almost from the start when Kraft took over. Remember, Kraft didn't learn his lesson til he drove Bill off and messed up by him with "Booby Grier" calling the shots, not to mention the Pete Carroll mistake. That post-Tuna, pre-Mumbles era was Kraft's post-Jimmy, pre-Tuna period. Both owners have learned something about what they don't know, only unlike Jerry, Kraft was unable to let the hard feelings go, and still takes cracks at Bill at any opportunity.

A 'nugget' would be an allusion that JJ's hands on approach irritates Bill as much as Kraft's instant expert attitude did. And that's not so, and not implied.

Keep trying, Nors.

Love ya, tho. :D


I think that Parcells slipped here - he's answering all the questions, taking all the heat. His wordage was new and could lead to speculation.

Have spent a lot of time with my two codgers on Falmouth shore this summer. You should have seen my 7 year old eyes yesterday when he saw footage of a 17 foot, 2,000 pound Great White sighted in Woods hole in shallows in that Falmouth bay area! I doubt he goes deep next summer!

LaTunaNostra
09-24-2004, 08:57 PM
I think that Parcells slipped here - he's answering all the questions, taking all the heat. His wordage was new and could lead to speculation.

Have spent a lot of time with my two codgers on Falmouth shore this summer. You should have seen my 7 year old eyes yesterday when he saw footage of a 17 foot, 2,000 pound Great White sighted in Woods hole in shallows in that Falmouth bay area! I doubt he goes deep next summer!
Better a whale sighting in Falmouth than a Mumbles sighting on Nantucket.

Nors, the word codger means old man. To call someone is an "old codger" is actually an redundancy. There are no young codgers - so unless you're telling us something about your childrens' precociousness, your word choice is, well, once again, odd. But I admit I find it fascinating. There was, some years, ago, a comedian whose routine was based on just such 'wordage'. Wish I could recall his name.

Junk referred you to Grammar for Dummies ( a great book, btw), but it's a standard dictionary you might be in need of. All that speed reading - I don't know how you do it. lol.

Nors
09-24-2004, 09:12 PM
Better a whale sighting in Falmouth than a Mumbles sighting on Nantucket.

Nors, the word codger means old man. To call someone is an "old codger" is actually an redundancy. There are no young codgers - so unless you're telling us something about your childrens' precociousness, your word choice is, well, once again, odd. But I admit I find it fascinating. There was, some years, ago, a comedian whose routine was based on just such 'wordage'. Wish I could recall his name.

Junk referred you to Grammar for Dummies ( a great book, btw), but it's a standard dictionary you might be in need of. All that speed reading - I don't know how you do it. lol.

Thesaurous is
Entry Word: soothsayer
Function: noun
Text: Synonyms PROPHET, augur, auspex, forecaster, foreseer, foreteller, haruspex, predictor, prognosticator, prophesier

My 93 year old Grandfather will likely pass away this week, my sons are of his ilk.......... I just love the word codger - who defines old or young? At heart? In spirit?

BTW - Look at Junk there!

LaTunaNostra
09-24-2004, 09:19 PM
I just love the word codger - who defines old or young? At heart? In spirit?



Well said.

Speaking of old and young, I will be very surprised if the young Ransey starts for Gibbs this week.

Does anyone know how the Skins are listing Brunell?

Upgraded to 'probable' yet?

junk
09-25-2004, 12:26 AM
BTW - Look at Junk there!

Touche. I was honestly shocked to find that Grammar for Dummies existed. It was pretty funny.

Nors
09-25-2004, 07:23 AM
"Asked if he was comfortable with Tony Romo as Testaverde's primary backup, Parcells said it doesn't make any difference because he has to do the job. What Parcells does like is that Romo seems to be on top of things mentally, giving his coach the right answers to daily quizzes."

junk
09-25-2004, 12:40 PM
"Asked if he was comfortable with Tony Romo as Testaverde's primary backup, Parcells said it doesn't make any difference because he has to do the job. What Parcells does like is that Romo seems to be on top of things mentally, giving his coach the right answers to daily quizzes."

Weird, its almost if Parcells is preparing him to come in and play if the starter gets injured. What a novel concept. That Parcells is one crafty SOB.

LaTunaNostra
09-25-2004, 12:56 PM
Touche. I was honestly shocked to find that Grammar for Dummies existed. It was pretty funny.
Junk, actually it's a great resource for students who don't want to invest in a dry, old boring grammar handbook. Some teacher tells them in a freshman writing course they need to use a gerund instead of an infinitive or they used a dangling modifier (they grew up in the 'holistic tradition' and never learned the nomenclature), and they panic. This book presents the terms in an engaging, clever way.