Ekubust?

[TheKey]

Ekuban has 2 sacks and 2 pressures today in the first half.

He had a decent game against us.

Looks like we made a mistake.

[Rayman]

Ekuban has 2 sacks and 2 pressures today in the first half.

He had a decent game against us.

Looks like we made a mistake.


The only mistake we made was drafting him.

How long are you suppose to wait for a player to develop? He made alot of money and produced very little for us.

[Midswat]

We don't generate a lot of sacks because we play to contain the run first.

[MichaelWinicki]

Ekuban has 2 sacks and 2 pressures today in the first half.

He had a decent game against us.

Looks like we made a mistake.


No, not really. We got a perfectly good Pimp out of it. ;)

[Jimz31]

We don't generate a lot of sacks because we play to contain the run first.

Exactly. Zimmer's system doesn't exactly allow players to show what the players do at their best.

[Tuna Helper]

Ekuban has 2 sacks and 2 pressures today in the first half.

He had a decent game against us.

Looks like we made a mistake.

So what?

After 5 years he's finally earning a paycheck?

Ekuban would need to break the single season sack record 5 years in a row to make up for his lack of production until now.

[jcollins28]

Ekuban has 2 sacks and 2 pressures today in the first half.

He had a decent game against us.

Looks like we made a mistake.


Your joking right? You do know the Giants have like the worst O line in the NFL.

[Tuna Helper]

Exactly. Zimmer's system doesn't exactly allow players to show what the players do at their best.

Ahh...but tell me who was the defensive coordinator in Dallas before Campo was the head coach?

I thought so.

[TheHustler]

all this blame is really getting ridiculous. i dont recall any of this last year when we had the #1 ranked defense.

[Jimz31]

Ahh...but tell me who was the defensive coordinator in Dallas before Campo was the head coach?

I thought so.

What does that have to do with Zimmer?

[Tuna Helper]

What does that have to do with Zimmer?

Ekuban played DE in Dallas before Zimmer was the coordinator.

[Jimz31]

all this blame is really getting ridiculous. i dont recall any of this last year when we had the #1 ranked defense.

Where is the "blame"?

Just because Zimmer's scheme doesn't allow players to show what they can do the best doesn't mean that it is necessarily wrong.

Do I like the "bend but don't break" defense? No. Does that mean that his scheme is wrong? No. Would his defensive scheme allow a Strahan to show what he does best? No.

[Jimz31]

Ekuban played DE in Dallas before Zimmer was the coordinator.

OK, for how many years? And what was the scheme back then?

[Tuna Helper]

Where is the "blame"?

Just because Zimmer's scheme doesn't allow players to show what they can do the best doesn't mean that it is necessarily wrong.

Do I like the "bend but don't break" defense? No. Does that mean that his scheme is wrong? No. Would his defensive scheme allow a Strahan to show what he does best? No.

What is this "bend but don't break" defense that you speak of? I see our defense as one that blitzes almost every play.

I think we had the lead in the NFL last year as the number 1 blitzing defense.

You are stuck in 2001, when we did employ this scheme. Right now, we are not playing this scheme. Do you think Parcells would allow this scheme?

[Jimz31]

Ekuban played DE in Dallas before Zimmer was the coordinator.

Ekuban only played ONE year prior to Zimmer becoming the DC. In the first year of Zimmer's system, Ekuban had 6.5 sacks in 12 games.

The next year Ekuban was injured.

In the next two year's when Zimmer really highlighted his "Engage & contain" or whatever defense, Ekuban had 1 sack and then 2.5 sacks.

Since Zimmer has established his system, I don't see how anyone can say that his defense allows the d-line to make the same sort of plays that other defenses do.

[Jimz31]

What is this "bend but don't break" defense that you speak of? I see our defense as one that blitzes almost every play.

I think we had the lead in the NFL last year as the number 1 blitzing defense.

You are stuck in 2001, when we did employ this scheme. Right now, we are not playing this scheme. Do you think Parcells would allow this scheme?

Are you saying that we blitzed more than Philly last year? They blitzed nearly 50% of the time last year. We did that for a couple of games.

If you see a blitz almost every play, I would really like to get my video tape out and re-watch them then and just see how many times that we DID blitz.

Let's keep watch on Monday night to see just how many blitzes that we do do.

[Nors]

I don't think he was asked to do what were his strengths are. He was asked to tie up Huge tackles. Ek is small and best in open space, he had good field speed running down bacjs. Parcells even toyed with moving him to DE.

3 sacks so far a good start for him. That Brown offense is TERRIBLE.

[MichaelWinicki]

I don't think he was asked to do what were his strengths are. He was asked to tie up Huge tackles. Ek is small and best in open space, he had good field speed running down bacjs. Parcells even toyed with moving him to DE.

3 sacks so far a good start for him. That Brown offense is TERRIBLE.


You mean toyed with moving him to LB...

[big dog cowboy]

Parcells even toyed with moving him to DE.

I thought he played DE. :confused:

[big dog cowboy]

The only mistake we made was drafting him.


Amen to that brother!!!!!!!

[Cheap Shot Artist]

Ekuban only played ONE year prior to Zimmer becoming the DC. In the first year of Zimmer's system, Ekuban had 6.5 sacks in 12 games.

The next year Ekuban was injured.

In the next two year's when Zimmer really highlighted his "Engage & contain" or whatever defense, Ekuban had 1 sack and then 2.5 sacks.

Since Zimmer has established his system, I don't see how anyone can say that his defense allows the d-line to make the same sort of plays that other defenses do.

Agreed...if we go defense with our top 3 picks next year and still dont have a pass rush, the ignorant masses will perhaps, just perhaps figure out Zimmer is very average

[Chuck 54]

If Ekuban has a better year rushing the QB than Wiley, then of course we made a mistake. However, he wasn't getting the job done here...neither is Wiley so far.

My guess? Neither is what we're looking for....then again, we could have signed the FREAK, and as soon as he missed a game for an ankle sprain, someone would have been on here saying "I told you so...bad move."

You draft great Pass rushers or you sign them in FA....they don't fall off trees, and unless a team is in cap trouble, they don't let them walk either...Wiley was not a great pass rusher...that's why he was available.

Ek could have 6-7 sacks this year...he still won't be a great pass rusher.

That's one of the strengths of a 3-4...it's easier to find the tweeners who can rush the QB from the LB spot than it is to find another Reggie White or Charles Haley. The next best thing is to get beasts at DT who flush the QB out to the de's.

Right now we don't have a great DE or DT and that includes Ellis and Glover, though no one will agree with it. We don't have one guy on the team, even at LB, that any team would fear coming after the passer...Only Roy would fit that description.

[dbair1967]

Ekuban has 2 sacks and 2 pressures today in the first half.

He had a decent game against us.

Looks like we made a mistake.

he wasnt even blocked on the sacks...I could have got those

how can you saying not resigning him was a mistake? He played here for 5 years and never panned out...

David

[Cheap Shot Artist]

he wasnt even blocked on the sacks...I could have got those

how can you saying not resigning him was a mistake? He played here for 5 years and never panned out...

David

Shall we talk about Roy Williams and his disappearing act this season?

[dbair1967]

Shall we talk about Roy Williams and his disappearing act this season?

as I said, he's preaching to the choir to me about Zimmer...I wish he had gone to Nebraska...

they dont use Roy Williams the right way, no argument here from me...he was totally invisibile from the Minny game because of a terrible, terrible game plan...made more plays last week, but still isnt used the way he should be

David

[marsbennett]

I gave up defending the guys a year ago....Still, Parcells talk of last season trying him at LB intrigued me.

[Nors]

You mean toyed with moving him to LB...

watching football and typing. My Bad

[big dog cowboy]

as I said, he's preaching to the choir to me about Zimmer...I wish he had gone to Nebraska...

they dont use Roy Williams the right way, no argument here from me...he was totally invisibile from the Minny game because of a terrible, terrible game plan...made more plays last week, but still isnt used the way he should be

David

Amen and Amen.

[NewmanCoversAll]

In Zimmer's system, Linebackers and safeties are more key than D-Lineman. Just look, Zimmer's defense has made Ngyuen and Roy and co. stars while making our lineman less of a factor. But hey, we had the #1 defense last year, so Im not complaining, whever wins games.

[SuspectCorner]

i waited for ekuban to turn the corner. and i waited. and i waited. he sucked. he's gone. not a glance in the rearview mirror. how can anybody miss this poser? i sure don't. if he is getting sacks this season he is lapping up the gravy of some other player's QB pressures. he creates zero himself.