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Tass
09-27-2004, 10:07 AM
I like our D vs. their O better than their D vs. our O. Simple.
Thoughts?

dbair1967
09-27-2004, 10:11 AM
We probably should win tonight. Doesnt mean we will, but we should win.

Our OL vs their front 4 is a big mismatch in our favor.

Our QB is playing better than their QB, and their guy is starting and playing through an injury.

They are missing the guy thats probably their best defensive player.

If it rains, it hurts our big advantage in the passing game some but also equalizes Clinton Portis' #1 trait, his ability to cutback. We should be able to contain him a little better if its sloppy.

If it stays dry I think we'll win something like 24-14...if the weather is bad and the field is a quagmire it'll be lowscoring, probably something like 14-10

we gotta eliminate turnovers though, or we will lose

David

bird_1972
09-27-2004, 10:15 AM
Issues working against you guys:

1) Weather looking to be rainy in which case it is essentially your run game vs. our run game - sorry, I'm liking the Skins here

2) Home field advantage

3) Well coached team (finally) coming off of a dumb loss to a division rival - in other words, we will be hungry.

Here's to a Skins victory and no injuries on either team.

mullet
09-27-2004, 10:23 AM
rain is not a hinderance to the passing game..... but, wind is. so, wind benefits the skins. rain doesn't hurt the cowboys.

Jarv
09-27-2004, 10:33 AM
We will win this game as long as the refs finally call a fair and even game. BP calling the leauge about the phamtom holding calls and to check about the PI rules when a QB is out of the pocket...is...well..A wakeup call to the leauge that we have been dogged...and want a fair game for a change.

BrAinPaiNt
09-27-2004, 10:41 AM
http://thecrispincorner.com/sbttf9.jpg

It is our Density....ah...I mean our Destiny

SkinsandTerps
09-27-2004, 10:42 AM
Rain IS an issue for the passing game and you are vastly mistaken if you feel otherwise. Wet footballs, bad field conditions, under the lights with the rain coming down makes it hard to see the ball coming, etc..

BrAinPaiNt
09-27-2004, 10:48 AM
Rain IS an issue for the passing game and you are vastly mistaken if you feel otherwise. Wet footballs, bad field conditions, under the lights with the rain coming down makes it hard to see the ball coming, etc..


It can also be a factor for RBs that rely on cutback ability.

SkinsandTerps
09-27-2004, 10:53 AM
It can also be a factor for RBs that rely on cutback ability.

I definitely realize that, and feel that Cartwright may see a good amount of playing time under these circumstances.

Of course Portis makes cuts on a regular basis and this may be an issue for him, but he can also beat player to the hole and get some solid runs on speed alone.

BrAinPaiNt
09-27-2004, 10:57 AM
I definitely realize that, and feel that Cartwright may see a good amount of playing time under these circumstances.

Of course Portis makes cuts on a regular basis and this may be an issue for him, but he can also beat player to the hole and get some solid runs on speed alone.


Also the turn over ration should come into play tonight with sloppy conditions.

I actually think the Passing game will benefit the offenses as he WRs may have trouble cutting, but if they have smooth routes it will be harder on the DBs to cut compared to the WRs.

Also the TEs may have a big role in tonights game.

RedLine
09-27-2004, 10:57 AM
Rain IS an issue for the passing game and you are vastly mistaken if you feel otherwise. Wet footballs, bad field conditions, under the lights with the rain coming down makes it hard to see the ball coming, etc..

The weather will effect both teams, even the home team :)

I am sure the idea is that since you have Portis you will have the advantage. If that is to be the case, you better hope he has a better game than that last one.

The fact is that rain has some effect on the passing game. It is not as bad as most would think. The officials keep the balls pretty dry, and it is possible to have a descent passing game in the rain. I do agree with mullet, the wind is the biggest issue in the rain.

I am confident we can put together a good run attack with Eddie George and Reshard Lee. As a matter of fact, I am hoping to see a break out game from Reshard.

Go Cowboys!

OldButDeadly
09-27-2004, 11:04 AM
What has Portis done??

NaDa...

If not for that one counter-trey play against TB...he would be looking really silly!

Kev

Eric_Boyer
09-27-2004, 11:16 AM
Rain IS an issue for the passing game and you are vastly mistaken if you feel otherwise. Wet footballs, bad field conditions, under the lights with the rain coming down makes it hard to see the ball coming, etc..
Don't let the fact that we haven't ran alot mislead you.

We actually are averaging the same per carry, the difference is we can throw the ball too.

If this was anywhere but RFK, it would be a rout. As it stands it will be just a mild arse-kicking. Now assume the position.

SkinsandTerps
09-27-2004, 11:21 AM
Dallas hasnt run the ball alot because the running game hasnt been effective. Either to build a lead or hold on to one.

RFK ? hmmm...... Typical.

Eddie
09-27-2004, 11:25 AM
RFK ? hmmm...... Typical.

As if anyone cared what your new stadium is called??? :confused:

TheSkaven
09-27-2004, 11:30 AM
Rain IS an issue for the passing game and you are vastly mistaken if you feel otherwise. Wet footballs, bad field conditions, under the lights with the rain coming down makes it hard to see the ball coming, etc..
So let me get this straight, the rain will affect the Cowboys' running game more than the Skins? I must be mistaken, I thought it was Portis who had the fumbling problem and not Eddie George. :rolleyes:

The Cowboys should win this game. It's not a lock, road games never are. I think the Redskins are going to have a real tough time on offense, though. I expect a close, low scoring game, something like 10-3 or 14-7.

Eric_Boyer
09-27-2004, 11:53 AM
Dallas hasnt run the ball alot because the running game hasnt been effective. Either to build a lead or hold on to one.

RFK ? hmmm...... Typical.
We average 4.1 yards per rushing attempt, same as you. We also have the #1 offense in the league, unlike you. So how is your running game more affective?

Eric_Boyer
09-27-2004, 12:03 PM
a closer look at the Skins "superior" running game. :rolleyes:

They average the same per attempt, as I already stated.

In 67 attempts, they have 12 first downs and 1 run longer then 20 yards.

In 49 attempts (18 fewer), we have 14 first downs(two more) and 1 run longer then 20 yards(the same).

It looks like we have the better running game to me.

bird_1972
09-27-2004, 02:31 PM
As if anyone cared what your new stadium is called??? :confused:
No ... you just look foolish to throw that out there when you are trying to make a point even though we haven't played in that stadium for almost 10 yrs.

Rack Bauer
09-27-2004, 02:46 PM
If it's raining and the field is in poor condition it favors the cowboys. Period.


Eddie George in good weather conditions averages around 3.5 yards per carry. Eddie George on a bad field averages 3.5 yards per carry. Poor weather doesn't effect his running style. He's MADE for poor weather. Portis on the other hand does not have a running style that excels in poor weather conditions.

Plus, our OL vs the Skins DL... nuff said. I'm hoping for a bad weather game. Not only would it favor the cowboys, but it'll help take the crowd out of the game as well. Plus, a QB with a bad hammy running around on a wet, slippery field? You do the math.

If the weather is good the cowboys will probably lose. If it's bad weather the cowboys go home 2-1.

Doomsday101
09-27-2004, 03:19 PM
Because the Cowboys are the better team in this matchup

THEHEREAFTER
09-27-2004, 03:33 PM
a closer look at the Skins "superior" running game. :rolleyes:

They average the same per attempt, as I already stated.

In 67 attempts, they have 12 first downs and 1 run longer then 20 yards.

In 49 attempts (18 fewer), we have 14 first downs(two more) and 1 run longer then 20 yards(the same).

It looks like we have the better running game to me.

Who the hell had a 20 yard run for the Boyz?? I don't remember that?

dbair1967
09-27-2004, 03:34 PM
Who the hell had a 20 yard run for the Boyz?? I don't remember that?

LB Dexter Coakley on the fake punt

David

CowboysHater
09-27-2004, 03:51 PM
As if anyone cared what your new stadium is called??? :confused:


Well, it's not just a name, it's a location. RFK is actually in DC, SE, to be exact. FedEx Field is in Md, Landover, that is. Aside from that, FedEx Field has yet to live up to the reputation that RFK had developed. Regardless of the name, the stadiums are very different, & the fact that someone made that error, just makes it funny...& typical. :D

CowboysHater
09-27-2004, 03:54 PM
LB Dexter Coakley on the fake punt

David



Please tell me you're kidding! You're hinging your "superiority" in the running game over us on THAT?? :rolleyes:

Eric_Boyer
09-27-2004, 04:02 PM
Well, it's not just a name, it's a location. RFK is actually in DC, SE, to be exact. FedEx Field is in Md, Landover, that is. Aside from that, FedEx Field has yet to live up to the reputation that RFK had developed. Regardless of the name, the stadiums are very different, & the fact that someone made that error, just makes it funny...& typical. :D
Why don't you re-read the post in question again dimwit.

If this was anywhere but RFK, it would be a rout.

This says you guys have sucked since the RFK days. :D

Skins26
09-27-2004, 04:04 PM
I thought it was Portis who had the fumbling problem and not Eddie George.
Portis doesn't and never did have a fumbling problem, so unless you have proof to back up this ridiculous statement I suggest you do a little more research when talking about players.


In 67 attempts, they have 12 first downs and 1 run longer then 20 yards.
Portis has 2 runs of 20 or more.
Brunnell has 1.
2+1 = 3 last time I checked....

BrAinPaiNt
09-27-2004, 04:13 PM
Portis doesn't and never did have a fumbling problem, so unless you have proof to back up this ridiculous statement I suggest you do a little more research when talking about players.

Have you watched him this year?

dbair1967
09-27-2004, 04:15 PM
Please tell me you're kidding! You're hinging your "superiority" in the running game over us on THAT?? :rolleyes:

I've never contended we're superior in the running game...somebody wanted to know who had our long run, and I responded

Portis is a tremendous talent, definitely better than anything we have at RB...I like Ladell Betts too, he might be better than anything we have too...but our RB's arnt running against your RB's...I think Dallas has a better OL, QB and the WR's/TE's are a slight edge to us as well, because we have 3 quality WR's and 2 really good TE's, inlcuding one who might end up in the probowl this year...

obviously a Redskins fan will say I am biased, but I see Dallas having better talent and depth on the OL, WR, TE and DL...I see the Redskins being better at RB and LB and the teams DB's either close or a slight edge to you guys right now, even though I think Newman and Roy Williams are better than any iddv redskins DB's, but as a group I like the Skins DB's and think they are better coached...at QB I think VT is better right now than Brunell is, something thats been proven so far on the field...special teams could have the deciding factor in this game, and I dont trust our kicker at all...

I think the biggest mismatch is Joe Gibbs vs Mike Zimmer, Zimmer more often than not comes up with some real clunker game plans vs the really good offensive coaches, and tonight might be more of the same...

David

Eric_Boyer
09-27-2004, 04:15 PM
Please tell me you're kidding! You're hinging your "superiority" in the running game over us on THAT?? :rolleyes:
It hinges on the fact that our OL is better.

you claim to have a better running game simply because you average more yards per game. Who cares? You average the same per carry, and have managed fewer first downs running even with way more attempts.

Just watch what happens tonight. We upgraded from Hambrick. :D

THEHEREAFTER
09-27-2004, 04:20 PM
LB Dexter Coakley on the fake punt

David

LOL! Ohhh that's weak! Even as a boys fan.. that's weak that you used that as a running stat.. LOL! I do think our running game is better than what has shown thus far.. but that's weak!

SuspectCorner
09-27-2004, 04:21 PM
the field this. the field that. yadda yadda. i'm reminded of emmitt smith's reply when asked about how the condition of candlestick park would affect the outcome of the '92 NFC championship game. "i feel sorry for the field - because we're gonna stomp all over it."

twa
09-27-2004, 05:34 PM
Imo we have the better team. The Oline,tight ends and key will come out ahead rain or shine.The running game could easily outgain the Skins if they simply avoid the key penalties that have killed our drives. The only hope I see for the Skins is if they can get to VT on the blitz. From what I have seen the old dog can play and most importantly has the weapons to win :D

TheHustler
09-27-2004, 06:54 PM
so the skins have a more talented RB, who cares.

how many yards did TROY HAMBRICK run for last year? we win.