Chad Eaton Arrested for Domestic Violence

[Hostile]

Ex-DT Eaton arrested in domestic violence case
Associated Press, Updated 4 hours ago

EVERETT, Wash. (AP) - Former NFL defensive tackle Chad Eaton was arrested for investigation of domestic violence.

Eaton was arrested in Monroe, booked into jail in this city north of Seattle on Saturday and released Sunday on $2,500 bail, according to Snohomish County Jail records.

Additional details about the incident were not immediately available.

Rebecca Hover, a spokeswoman with the Snohomish County Sheriff's Office, refused to provide a copy of the police report, saying she did not know if the investigation had been completed.

The 35-year-old Eaton spent five seasons with the New England Patriots (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/67054), three with the Seattle Seahawks (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/67060) and one with the Dallas Cowboys (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/67043) before retiring after the 2004 season. He played in college at Washington State University. Last year, Eaton's wife, Tina, was arrested at the couple's home in Redmond, an east Seattle suburb, after a fight that left her husband with a bloody nose.

The 5-foot-4, 130-pound woman told sheriff's deputies she punched her 6-foot-5, 300-pound husband because she suspected he had cheated on her, court documents said.

Charges were not filed against Tina Eaton because her husband didn't want the case pursued.

[Bob Sacamano]

5'4" 130

that's a round lady

[5Stars]

I like a lady with some gumption! Eaton probably did not want her arrested because when she get out she might give him another bloody nose and a two black eyes!


:eek:

[dargonking999]

Dosen't he write for the cowboys?

or am i thining of another Eaton?

[SupermanXx]

Dosen't he write for the cowboys?

or am i thining of another Eaton?

lol

Mickey Spagnola arrested on drug charges and war crimes

[Hostile]

Dosen't he write for the cowboys?

or am i thining of another Eaton?No, that's Nick Eatman.

[dargonking999]

No, that's Nick Eatman.


gosh, to manys Eats

[CrazyCowboy]

I bet he better take that trash out on time.

[Clove]

She shoulda pretended she was a QB, he have had no chance.

[tunahelper]

He could play the run well, but not the ladies?

[Bob Sacamano]

She shoulda pretended she was a QB, he have had no chance.

or a spot on the Dallas roster:p:

[big dog cowboy]

Ex-DT Eaton
I'm surprised that headline doesn't say "Former Cowboy" in there somewhere.

[dargonking999]

I think he was really trying to say I like you (http://i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=23867)

[aikemirv]

Where is the outrage?

You guys make jokes about a woman getting beaten by her 300lb husband but are all up in arms about dog fighting.

Is there something wrong with this picture? I would take Vick over this guy any day of the week!!!

[Nav22]

Domestic violence? Who cares!

T.O. hasn't gotten along with 100% of his teammates... now THAT'S a story!

[Vintage]

Where is the outrage?

You guys make jokes about a woman getting beaten by her 300lb husband but are all up in arms about dog fighting.

Is there something wrong with this picture? I would take Vick over this guy any day of the week!!!

To be fair, it says he was being investigated. Doesn't necessarily mean he is guilty.

Hopefully its false just because I do not want to wish that someone would actually do this to their wife...but...who knows

[dargonking999]

Where is the outrage?

You guys make jokes about a woman getting beaten by her 300lb husband but are all up in arms about dog fighting.

Is there something wrong with this picture? I would take Vick over this guy any day of the week!!!


instant 20 pager right there

Let's get this action rolling



Killing dogs is not the same as beating up a 300lbs guy!!!!

[aikemirv]

instant 20 pager right there

Let's get this action rolling



Killing dogs is not the same as beating up a 300lbs guy!!!!

2004 was when she hit him, now it looks as if he is beating her.
If I am reading the story correctly.

[WoodysGirl]

To be fair, it says he was being investigated. Doesn't necessarily mean he is guilty.

Hopefully its false just because I do not want to wish that someone would actually do this to their wife...but...who knows
Honestly, that's a double standard. Investigations go on all the time, and it just seem folks pick and choose when to get self-righteous.

When Vick was being investigated, threads went hundred posts deep. Over cruelty to animals. Now that he's indicted, every update gets a minimum over a hundred. A domestic violence thread? = 20 posts over a 24 hr period.

Vick being investigated = Outrage
TO says something not quite PC = Outrage
Former NFLer investigated for domestic violence = *yawn*

[Vintage]

Honestly, that's a double standard. Investigations go on all the time, and it just seem folks pick and choose when to get self-righteous.

When Vick was being investigated, threads went hundred posts deep. Over cruelty to animals. Now that he's indicted, every update gets a minimum over a hundred. A domestic violence thread? = 20 posts over a 24 hr period.

Vick being investigated = Outrage
TO says something not quite PC = Outrage
Former NFLer investigated for domestic violence = *yawn*

Maybe you should read what I've said on the Vick case....

[dargonking999]

Honestly, that's a double standard. Investigations go on all the time, and it just seem folks pick and choose when to get self-righteous.

When Vick was being investigated, threads went hundred posts deep. Over cruelty to animals. Now that he's indicted, every update gets a minimum over a hundred. A domestic violence thread? = 20 posts over a 24 hr period.

Vick being investigated = Outrage
TO says something not quite PC = Outrage
Former NFLer investigated for domestic violence = *yawn*


It's simple

when your beating up, and killing Human's no one cares. Thats every day stuff. Who cares about that

But when you start kicking dogs and cats, oh boy we gotta fight. Those are our lovable animals, that are incapable of doing anything but loving us. We must kill all who dare to put harm to these wonderous animals



See Simple logic

[WoodysGirl]

Maybe you should read what I've said on the Vick case....I have. And the post wasn't fully directed towards you. It's about the fact that the reactionaries haven't fell all over themselves bashing this guy.

I'm not a reactionary by nature, but I hate to see domestic violence cases of any kind. Even if he's not charged, based on their history, it's a volatile relationship.

It's simple

when your beating up, and killing Human's no one cares. Thats every day stuff. Who cares about that

But when you start kicking dogs and cats, oh boy we gotta fight. Those are our lovable animals, that are incapable of doing anything but loving us. We must kill all who dare to put harm to these wonderous animals



See Simple logicYeah I see that.

[Vintage]

I have. And the post wasn't fully directed towards you. It's about the fact that the reactionaries haven't fell all over themselves bashing this guy.

I'm not a reactionary by nature, but I hate to see domestic violence cases of any kind. Even if he's not charged, based on their history, it's a volatile relationship.

Yeah I see that.

I thought it was directed at me since you quoted me.

And I agree. Its amusing (well, maybe not the best choice of words) that this is barely registered a blip compared to some other thread. In particular, Chris Henry threads.

He (allegedly - then proven wrong) does drugs; everyone cares. "What a thug" is the rallying cry.

Eaton (allegedly) beats his wife; jokes get made, no one cares.

There are two things wrong with this. But I don't want to be overly obvious in stating them....

[dargonking999]

I thought it was directed at me since you quoted me.

And I agree. Its amusing (well, maybe not the best choice of words) that this is barely registered a blip compared to some other thread. In particular, Chris Henry threads.

He (allegedly - then proven wrong) does drugs; everyone cares. "What a thug" is the rallying cry.

Eaton (allegedly) beats his wife; jokes get made, no one cares.

There are two things wrong with this. But I don't want to be overly obvious in stating them....


You know i could be the meainie and point out the underlying reason, but then this would really turn into a 20 pager :P

[sacase]

What's even more sad is that even if she says she wants the charges dropped, they state will still prosecute him since he is the man.

[aikemirv]

What's even more sad is that even if she says she wants the charges dropped, they state will still prosecute him since he is the man.

You really think that is sad?

A lot of these women feel pressure to drop the charges when they really should not. They want to forgive and do many times over. He should be prosecuted no matter what she says IMO if he really did it.

[Doomsday101]

You really think that is sad?

A lot of these women feel pressure to drop the charges when they really should not. They want to forgive and do many times over. He should be prosecuted no matter what she says IMO if he really did it.

I agree. Eaton could have walked out of the house if he was that PO'ed there is no excuse for him attacking his wife

[BrAinPaiNt]

Where is the outrage?

You guys make jokes about a woman getting beaten by her 300lb husband but are all up in arms about dog fighting.

Is there something wrong with this picture? I would take Vick over this guy any day of the week!!!

Because the article said investigation into domestic violence and nothing else.

Did not say he punched her, kicked her, threw her against the wall or what he did to her.

Plus it is not uncommon for these cases to pan out and we find out that the women called the cops in order to just get the guy in trouble knowing that the police will make an arrest no matter what.

It also states that she is the only one on record with a past of hitting HIM.

Maybe she was doing something again and he was defending himself by pushing her away.

If it turns out he was guilty of it I am sure he will not have love thrown his way.

But to turn this into a vick thing is silly and just goes to show the length that people will go in order to justify some things.

Last time I heard a man and woman have a choice to live together, have a choice to get up and turn a door knob and walk out. Do not require someone to give them food, do not force them into cages, do not transport them across state lines to fight with another person and if they lose they get an electric cord shoved up their butt and shocked to death.

Please don't make silly posts concerning what vick did to some thing completely different in order to justify your own stance. Because it does not work.

Plus the simple sad fact of the matter is Chad Eaton is a nobody compared to a Mike Vick.

Even if someone named Butt nugget Jones who was a 5th string WR from podunk U playing on the cleveland browns did the same thing as Vick...He would not get as much coverage.

Vick is a franchise QB that gets Mega Million dollar endorsement deals, puts butts in the seats for games, is overhyped to promote the league and now is involved with something that tarnishes that image and the NFL's image.

Chad Eaton is a nobody compared to that.

Be realistic.

[kilz]

Couldn't have happened to a better guy!

He has been trying to break into the local media here in Seattle. A couple years ago he was on sports radio 950 KJR and he said Aikman was gay. He wasn't joking or just hating on Aikman, he was trying to come off as a player passing on some some priveledged knowledge. He came off as a total highschool meathead.

[zeromaster]

Where is the outrage?

You guys make jokes about a woman getting beaten by her 300lb husband but are all up in arms about dog fighting.

Is there something wrong with this picture? I would take Vick over this guy any day of the week!!!
Nice use of sarcasm.





I hope.

[03EBZ06]

A self defense move could be considered as a domestic violence. When my friend's crazy wife physically attacked him and he grabbed her arms to prevent her from striking him and when cops were called (he called them), he and her, both were charged with domestic violence. It seems unfair that he was charged with a domestic violence but according to the report, both were charged because they couldn't be determined who was the initiator of the physical confrontation.

It was only after his wife came to senses to make a statement of her being the initiator, they dropped the charge against him.

[dargonking999]

Because the article said investigation into domestic violence and nothing else.

Did not say he punched her, kicked her, threw her against the wall or what he did to her.

Plus it is not uncommon for these cases to pan out and we find out that the women called the cops in order to just get the guy in trouble knowing that the police will make an arrest no matter what.

It also states that she is the only one on record with a past of hitting HIM.

Maybe she was doing something again and he was defending himself by pushing her away.

If it turns out he was guilty of it I am sure he will not have love thrown his way.

But to turn this into a vick thing is silly and just goes to show the length that people will go in order to justify some things.

Last time I heard a man and woman have a choice to live together, have a choice to get up and turn a door knob and walk out. Do not require someone to give them food, do not force them into cages, do not transport them across state lines to fight with another person and if they lose they get an electric cord shoved up their butt and shocked to death.

Please don't make silly posts concerning what vick did to some thing completely different in order to justify your own stance. Because it does not work.

Plus the simple sad fact of the matter is Chad Eaton is a nobody compared to a Mike Vick.

Even if someone named Butt nugget Jones who was a 5th string WR from podunk U playing on the cleveland browns did the same thing as Vick...He would not get as much coverage.

Vick is a franchise QB that gets Mega Million dollar endorsement deals, puts butts in the seats for games, is overhyped to promote the league and now is involved with something that tarnishes that image and the NFL's image.

Chad Eaton is a nobody compared to that.

Be realistic.


Gosh darn you BP

im trying to make this a 20 pager. stop dousing my Raging inferno!!!!!!!

[BrAinPaiNt]

Gosh darn you BP

im trying to make this a 20 pager. stop dousing my Raging inferno!!!!!!!

Take off those spelling mittens and get to typing mister.:p: ;)

[Seven]

I bet he better take that trash out on time.


He had his chance but refused to press charges! :laugh2:

Man! I slay myself! :lmao2:

[dargonking999]

Take off those spelling mittens and get to typing mister.:p: ;)


Never

there my "make me happy at night" special mittins

[aikemirv]

Because the article said investigation into domestic violence and nothing else.

Did not say he punched her, kicked her, threw her against the wall or what he did to her.

Plus it is not uncommon for these cases to pan out and we find out that the women called the cops in order to just get the guy in trouble knowing that the police will make an arrest no matter what.

It also states that she is the only one on record with a past of hitting HIM.

Maybe she was doing something again and he was defending himself by pushing her away.

If it turns out he was guilty of it I am sure he will not have love thrown his way.

But to turn this into a vick thing is silly and just goes to show the length that people will go in order to justify some things.

Last time I heard a man and woman have a choice to live together, have a choice to get up and turn a door knob and walk out. Do not require someone to give them food, do not force them into cages, do not transport them across state lines to fight with another person and if they lose they get an electric cord shoved up their butt and shocked to death.
Please don't make silly posts concerning what vick did to some thing completely different in order to justify your own stance. Because it does not work.

Plus the simple sad fact of the matter is Chad Eaton is a nobody compared to a Mike Vick.

Even if someone named Butt nugget Jones who was a 5th string WR from podunk U playing on the cleveland browns did the same thing as Vick...He would not get as much coverage.

Vick is a franchise QB that gets Mega Million dollar endorsement deals, puts butts in the seats for games, is overhyped to promote the league and now is involved with something that tarnishes that image and the NFL's image.

Chad Eaton is a nobody compared to that.

Be realistic.

They are dogs here, OK. So, about being realistic, if you are comparing dogs to human beings then you need to be realistic!

We are talking about brutality to other human beings.

Sorry, big differnece in my view of things!

Does not make what Vick has done justifiable by any means.

I just think it is very odd that so many are so outraged, more about what is done to animals, than inhumanities done to human beings.

[Doomsday101]

They are dogs here, OK. So, about being realistic, if you are comparing dogs to human beings then you need to be realistic!

We are talking about brutality to other human beings.

Sorry, big differnece in my view of things!

Does not make what Vick has done justifiable by any means.

I just think it is very odd that so many are so outraged, more about what is done to animals, than inhumanities done to human beings.

Your right however you’re talking about a domestic violence case of a husband and wife getting into it and those situations are rarely clear cut. If Eaton is beating his wife he deserves whatever he gets.

[aikemirv]

Nice use of sarcasm.





I hope.

Not sarcastic at all. Very serious. Very little respect for a 300lb guy who would beat a 130lb woman. Very little respect for a guy like Vick too, but more than a wife beater. Sorry if that does not fit your moral order!

[03EBZ06]

I just think it is very odd that so many are so outraged, more about what is done to animals, than inhumanities done to human beings.
You are assuming quite a bit here. How do you know that those who are outrage at Vick's situation aren't outraged at other events? Just because it wasn't displayed on your computer screen?

I'm outraged at many of the world events but does that need to be expressed every time I talk about Vick?

[aikemirv]

Your right however you’re talking about a domestic violence case of a husband and wife getting into it and those situations are rarely clear cut. If Eaton is beating his wife he deserves whatever he gets.


Just one of my many examples but some of them get the post deleted so I am trying to make a point with ones that don't.

[aikemirv]

You are assuming quite a bit here. How do you know that those who are outrage at Vick's situation aren't outraged at other events? Just because it wasn't displayed on your computer screen?

I'm outraged at many of the world events but does that need to be expressed every time I talk about Vick?


If you are going to morally condemn Vick for his actions against animals then do I get to morally condemn others who I don't have the same morals as.

Legality aside mind you, because as I have said before legality does not determine right and wrong just has more consequences.

[5Stars]

I just think it is very odd that so many are so outraged, more about what is done to animals, than inhumanities done to human beings.

Oh, it's wrong, that is for sure. Domestic violence should not happen at all!

But, let's look here...we have three things, a man, a woman, and a dog, right? Of these three which have the free will to decide what to do in their lives, which of these three are capable of rationalization, which of these three are able to communicate their fears? And, which of these three could you beat to hell and still have them love you unconditionally...

That in it's basic form is the difference...

Carry on...

[aikemirv]

Oh, it's wrong, that is for sure. Domestic violence should not happen at all!

But, let's look here...we have three things, a man, a woman, and a dog, right? Of these three which have the free will to decide what to do in their lives, which of these three are capable of rationalization, which of these three are able to communicate their fears? And, which of these three could you beat to hell and still have them love you unconditionally...

That in it's basic form is the difference...

Carry on...

You have a point and this is my weakest example, but another of my examples does not have a free will to decide and cannot communicate it's fears and it is not a dog but is treated with less respect and we kill them every day. Can you guess what it is?

[Sam I Am]

I'm surprised that headline doesn't say "Former Cowboy" in there somewhere.
Former NFL defensive tackle Chad Eaton, who would had been TOs teammate if he stayed two more years was arrested for investigation of domestic violence.

Yeah, that sounds about right.

[5Stars]

You have a point and this is my weakest example, but another of my examples does not have a free will to decide and cannot communicate it's fears and it is not a dog but is treated with less respect and we kill them every day. Can you guess what it is?


If you are speaking about the lady or man...at the first hint of trouble with her man/woman, they should have had the common sense to get the hell out of there. There are many instances where the man or lady will make the choice to stay and try and work it out, only to have it happen time and time again until something drastic happens like someone getting killed.

Other instances where a man and a woman are argueing and if you or I try to intervene, both of them will turn on us!

:eek:

[ABQCOWBOY]

5'4" 130

that's a round lady


Ideal weight for a women of 5 feet, 4 inches is 120 to 125 lbs. 130 sounds just about right to me but what do I know?

[aikemirv]

Ideal weight for a women of 5 feet, 4 inches is 120 to 125 lbs. 130 sounds just about right to me but what do I know?

I was gonna say he had some tough standards!

[Sam I Am]

Honestly, that's a double standard. Investigations go on all the time, and it just seem folks pick and choose when to get self-righteous.

When Vick was being investigated, threads went hundred posts deep. Over cruelty to animals. Now that he's indicted, every update gets a minimum over a hundred. A domestic violence thread? = 20 posts over a 24 hr period.

Vick being investigated = Outrage
TO says something not quite PC = Outrage
Former NFLer investigated for domestic violence = *yawn*

My response is: "Due Process". If he is guilty burn him at the stakes. If he is not, burn her at the stakes. Same goes for Michael Vick. I believe he should be able to attend training camp. He hasn't been convicted yet. If he does get convicted, suspend him then if he isn't already in jail.

[zrinkill]

Just as long as he did not hit his dog ..... then the forum would be in an uproar. :lmao2:

[iceberg]

They are dogs here, OK. So, about being realistic, if you are comparing dogs to human beings then you need to be realistic!

We are talking about brutality to other human beings.

Sorry, big differnece in my view of things!

Does not make what Vick has done justifiable by any means.

I just think it is very odd that so many are so outraged, more about what is done to animals, than inhumanities done to human beings.

you get called a drama queen a lot? i'd imagine so.

[zrinkill]

you get called a drama queen a lot? i'd imagine so.

Then I would too ..... because I agree with him.

[BrAinPaiNt]

They are dogs here, OK. So, about being realistic, if you are comparing dogs to human beings then you need to be realistic!

We are talking about brutality to other human beings.

Sorry, big differnece in my view of things!

Does not make what Vick has done justifiable by any means.

I just think it is very odd that so many are so outraged, more about what is done to animals, than inhumanities done to human beings.

And that is just my point.

Human beings have the ability to Get up and walk out of the door and out of a relationship more times than not.

This couple seems to have a history of domestic violence where SHE hit him, not the other way around.

They both have the ability to end the relationship.

Dogs do not have that choice unless somehow they get lucky and someone leaves a gate open and they escape.


Of course I am sure that does not fit any vick agenda but there you go...the simple truth.

[ABQCOWBOY]

And that is just my point.

Human beings have the ability to Get up and walk out of the door and out of a relationship more times than not.

This couple seems to have a history of domestic violence where SHE hit him, not the other way around.

They both have the ability to end the relationship.

Dogs do not have that choice unless somehow they get lucky and someone leaves a gate open and they escape.


Of course I am sure that does not fit any vick agenda but there you go...the simple truth.

Bravo. The singular point of clarity as to why so many people are up in arms over something as trivial as Dog Fighting.

Bravo

[peplaw06]

And that is just my point.

Human beings have the ability to Get up and walk out of the door and out of a relationship more times than not.

This couple seems to have a history of domestic violence where SHE hit him, not the other way around.

They both have the ability to end the relationship.

Dogs do not have that choice unless somehow they get lucky and someone leaves a gate open and they escape.


Of course I am sure that does not fit any vick agenda but there you go...the simple truth.It's not exactly that easy. There a lot of things that can it make it harder for a person to leave an abusive situation. One of them being he's 300 lbs and she's 130.

I'm not exactly sure what happened in this case, the article is a little confusing. But I have to agree with aikemirv. It's pretty sad that this gets no attention compared what Vick gets. They're both contemptible actions.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Bravo. The singular point of clarity as to why so many people are up in arms over something as trivial as Dog Fighting.

Bravo

It is one of the same reasons people get up in arms about children being abused more than they would adult women.

It is not that they are ok with adult women being abused. Unless you abuse women yourself chances are you are not going to be ok with it.

Children are normally caught in it and do not have the means to escape it most of the time.

Children and dogs depend on adults to shelter them, feed them and protect them and they should never be set up to be taken advantage of for a terrible reason of entertainment of certain situations.

Nobody wants to see women get abused, and we have no clue if that is the case in this situation at all. We have no report saying the girl was hit, kicked, bitten or any other information.

We do have information of what the vick situation entails. Whether it has been proven or not at least we know what it is about in specific details.

People sometimes just go overboard trying to justify one thing with something completely different IMO.

Taking one thread about one topic and feeling the need to go into a completely different thread about a different topic that is barely similar...spout off some holier than thou stuff or calling out people and than probably wonder why someone would argue about it.

I really don't like M&M blizzards from Dairy Queen. So after work I think I will go to McDonalds and complain about their milk shakes.

I mean they both are ice cream related products from fast food joints and I want to make a stink about it.

[MichaelWinicki]

Eaton was another one of those guys Nors had wood for that was a total bust.

[MrMom]

Ideal weight for a women of 5 feet, 4 inches is 120 to 125 lbs. 130 sounds just about right to me but what do I know?

I was thinking the same thing. :confused:

[ABQCOWBOY]

I really don't like M&M blizzards from Dairy Queen. So after work I think I will go to McDonalds and complain about their milk shakes.


While your there, can you pick me up a couple Quarter Pounder's with cheese?

:laugh2:

[BrAinPaiNt]

It's not exactly that easy. There a lot of things that can it make it harder for a person to leave an abusive situation. One of them being he's 300 lbs and she's 130.

I'm not exactly sure what happened in this case, the article is a little confusing. But I have to agree with aikemirv. It's pretty sad that this gets no attention compared what Vick gets. They're both contemptible actions.

Hard in some cases but not impossible in most.

A dog can not leave unless someone leaves a gate open or something along those lines.

Many times PEOPLE chose to stay in those relationships. This specific case has a history where she has hit him in the nose. They CHOSE to stay together after that.

There is no way anyone can rationally justify abuse unless it is self defense. However at the same time there is no rational reason to go from one thread and topic to another just to say...

LOOK AT ME...WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE

...unless you just want attention to justify your own stance on the Vick situation. By doing so, whether it is your intention or not, you set yourself up to look foolish.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Vick is just like a child abuser.

Give it a break and actually think about the reasons instead of generalization arguments that so many use over and over.

Geez.

It is so predictable from people.

:(

[Vintage]

Some women don't leave because they are afraid too.

Some don't leave for fear of what could happen to their children.

Some don't leave because they are so traumatized/mess up psychologically, that it doesn't register that there life could be in danger and that leaving is best for them.

Yeah, they have a choice.

Someone points a gun to my head and tell me to jump, yeah, I have a choice. But how much of a choice is it; really?

[03EBZ06]

If you are going to morally condemn Vick for his actions against animals then do I get to morally condemn others who I don't have the same morals as.
Again, how do you know whether or not those who are outraged at Vick's indictment aren't outraged at other events?

[ABQCOWBOY]

Vick is just like a child abuser.

Or, an abused women, just depending on how you want to bend reality.

[BrAinPaiNt]

While your there, can you pick me up a couple Quarter Pounder's with cheese?

:laugh2:

Big Mac sounds kind of nice now.

Just don't ask me to go to Dairy Queen.

I REFUSE to go through there.

I can understand taking some time to make a Hamburger as they make it to order unlike McDonalds and many places.

However taking so long for a simple ice cream cone or milk shake. I think they are in there negotiating with a cow just to get the milk.

Come on Bessie there is some long haired guy out there wanting a milk shake.:laugh2:

[Vintage]

Brainpaint, I swear to God, Allah, Buddah (whoever), if you say bad things about Dairy Queen, I will find you......



























and force you to wait in line with my order while I sit down and watch you wait. Don't ever diss DQ.

[BrAinPaiNt]

My thoughts exactly

Another predictable response.

Vick is NOT a child abuser. There is that clear enough for you.

Probably not, you probably do not even understand what I am saying but using standard weak old argument methods that work in other walks of life.

Three brothers...Johnny, Tommy and Billy.

BP says...
Billy likes apples.
Tommy likes Cinnamon

Zrin or others come along.

BP says Billy likes Applejacks.

:eek: :rolleyes:

[ABQCOWBOY]

It's not exactly that easy. There a lot of things that can it make it harder for a person to leave an abusive situation. One of them being he's 300 lbs and she's 130.

I'm not exactly sure what happened in this case, the article is a little confusing. But I have to agree with aikemirv. It's pretty sad that this gets no attention compared what Vick gets. They're both contemptible actions.


I gotta say, I'm with Brain on this one Pep. I mean, sure, if a small women is being beaten by her 300 lb. husband, then there's obviously a problem there and it could, god forebid, get out of control. If that happens, then there are a whole new set of circumstances that can be leagally pursued. However, if it is a case of a women (or an man for that matter) getting beaten but not perminantly hurt, the opportunity to leave is there. Not so with an animal unless it turns on you. Then, it's put down. There is no recourse for an animal and I think that is an important point.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Brainpaint, I swear to God, Allah, Buddah (whoever), if you say bad things about Dairy Queen, I will find you......










and force you to wait in line with my order while I sit down and watch you wait.

Nice wait method. :laugh2:

However you will not find me in DQ. Or for that matter KFC as they ALWAYS are out of something when you go through there.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Big Mac sounds kind of nice now.

Just don't ask me to go to Dairy Queen.

I REFUSE to go through there.

I can understand taking some time to make a Hamburger as they make it to order unlike McDonalds and many places.

However taking so long for a simple ice cream cone or milk shake. I think they are in there negotiating with a cow just to get the milk.

Come on Bessie there is some long haired guy out there wanting a milk shake.:laugh2:

:laugh1:

"He's taking out his Axe! Do you think he want's a piece of cheese?"

[Vintage]

Nice wait method. :laugh2:

However you will not find me in DQ. Or for that matter KFC as they ALWAYS are out of something when you go through there.


I love DQ.....

But try Popeyes. Popeyes > KFC. And its not even close, and I like KFC too..


But the spicy mashed potatoes are sooooo good. And there chicken is better.

[ABQCOWBOY]

I love DQ.....

But try Popeyes. Popeyes > KFC. And its not even close, and I like KFC too..


But the spicy mashed potatoes are sooooo good. And there chicken is better.

We're all dying in about 5 to 6 years because of our eating habbits.

Do you think they will give DQ, KFC or Mickey-Ds a life time ban on the fast food circut?

:laugh2:

[zrinkill]

Another predictable response.

Vick is NOT a child abuser. There is that clear enough for you.

Probably not, you probably do not even understand what I am saying but using standard weak old argument methods that work in other walks of life.

Three brothers...Johnny, Tommy and Billy.

BP says...
Billy likes apples.
Tommy likes Cinnamon

Zrin or others come along.

BP says Billy likes Applejacks.

:eek: :rolleyes:

You comparing fighting dogs to child abuse because neither can defend themselves is like comparing having a dog herd cattle for you to slavery ......

Now make another "argument" about how close minded I am :rolleyes:

[peplaw06]

Hard in some cases but not impossible in most.

A dog can not leave unless someone leaves a gate open or something along those lines.

Many times PEOPLE chose to stay in those relationships. This specific case has a history where she has hit him in the nose. They CHOSE to stay together after that.

There is no way anyone can rationally justify abuse unless it is self defense. However at the same time there is no rational reason to go from one thread and topic to another just to say...

LOOK AT ME...WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE

...unless you just want attention to justify your own stance on the Vick situation. By doing so, whether it is your intention or not, you set yourself up to look foolish.Oh I agree that lack of posts on a message board does not necessarily = lack of outrage. But then when you start talking about it, and people start actually trying to rationalize and justify why dog fighting is as bad or worse than domestic violence, that looks like a lack of outrage regarding the domestic violence.

I think some of it is desensitization as well. Domestic violence is old news. Dog fighting is new.

[Calvin2Tony2Emmitt2Julius]

Now I eluded to as much last week and Got, Banned from another Board, Harassed on a Falcolns board and basically internet scourged. Thanks to the guy that asked where's the outrage? That's all I was trying to say.:star:

[zrinkill]

Dog fighting is new.

New and shiny always brings out the humanitarians.

[peplaw06]

I gotta say, I'm with Brain on this one Pep. I mean, sure, if a small women is being beaten by her 300 lb. husband, then there's obviously a problem there and it could, god forebid, get out of control. If that happens, then there are a whole new set of circumstances that can be leagally pursued. However, if it is a case of a women (or an man for that matter) getting beaten but not perminantly hurt, the opportunity to leave is there. Not so with an animal unless it turns on you. Then, it's put down. There is no recourse for an animal and I think that is an important point. The opportunity to leave is there, no question, but you're denying the factors of why someone would stay with an abuser.

Eaton is a pro football player... makes a lot of money. She probably doesn't work. Where's she going to go, and what is she going to do. Trust me, I worked in the family violence unit at a DA's office. Sometimes it's not as easy as "I'm leaving."

Why do you think DA's offices will prosecute abusers even when the victim doesn't want to? It's because they're often times trying to cover for the abuser. They love him, and think it was just a one time thing. Then the second time they come to you, they can't leave him because of money. then the third time, it's because they don't want to take the kids away from him. It goes on and on.

Anyone who thinks that a victim can always just decide to leave and it's done, probably doesn't have much background in the area.

[Vintage]

Now I eluded to as much last week and Got, Banned from another Board, Harassed on a Falcolns board and basically internet scourged. Thanks to the guy that asked where's the outrage? That's all I was trying to say.:star:

What you've got to understand about that Falcons board...

They are tight nit. Very tight nit. And you came a day or two after when they were being attacked by other teams fans about this whole ordeal. Nevermind that Falcon fans everywhere on the board were condemning Vick and wanting him to be cut from the team....the idiots came in and harassed them even though they repeatedly told them in subsequent replies they were apalled.

So naturally, they are a bit sensitive about the issue.

Especially to outsiders of that board, such as yourself.

[ABQCOWBOY]

You comparing fighting dogs to child abuse because neither can defend themselves is like comparing having a dog herd cattle for you to slavery ......

Now make another "argument" about how close minded I am :rolleyes:

Your taking liberties with that post. The point of the post had little to do with Vick at all. I am not telling you anything that is not easily discernable by simply reading the post. Brain likened the feelings people have over dog fighting to those people have for child abuse. Because each is basically defenseless. The conclusion you are drawing is a stretch in it's truest form IMO.


However, I have been known to make mistakes. Are you then saying that you liken Vick to a person that abuses children?

[ABQCOWBOY]

New and shiny always brings out the humanitarians.


Also the gold diggers. Which are we to be classified as?

[zrinkill]

Are you then saying that you liken Vick to a person that abuses children?

Are they both felonies?

[zrinkill]

Also the gold diggers. Which are we to be classified as? hmmmm ....... or Anna Nichole .....

[ABQCOWBOY]

The opportunity to leave is there, no question, but you're denying the factors of why someone would stay with an abuser.

Eaton is a pro football player... makes a lot of money. She probably doesn't work. Where's she going to go, and what is she going to do. Trust me, I worked in the family violence unit at a DA's office. Sometimes it's not as easy as "I'm leaving."

Why do you think DA's offices will prosecute abusers even when the victim doesn't want to? It's because they're often times trying to cover for the abuser. They love him, and think it was just a one time thing. Then the second time they come to you, they can't leave him because of money. then the third time, it's because they don't want to take the kids away from him. It goes on and on.

Anyone who thinks that a victim can always just decide to leave and it's done, probably doesn't have much background in the area.

I agree, there are always circumstance in which people choose to endure this type of behavior. However, the choice is there. There is something to be said for the ability to avoid a life threatening situation. I am not saying beating your spouse is right in any way shape or form. If this is the impression I've left you with, then shame on me. I appoligize for that.

At the end of the day, when the dogs are thrown in a pit and only one lives to see another day or when the child is beaten too severly and dies as a result, the opportunity to make a choice of survival is not present. As a society, it is our responsability to protect and prevent. You can't protect or prevent the women/man that makes the choice to go back. How ever difficult the decision to leave might be, a person will elect to save there own life, more times then not. The choice is there for a grown person. That to me is an important factor in this discussion.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Are they both felonies?

Yes, there is Felony Child Abuse and dog fighting is considered a Felony as well.

[ABQCOWBOY]

hmmmm Anna Nichole .....


Well, choices here are fairly limited. I guess I'll take Michael Moore but if there is an expanded list, I'd really like to review that.

:laugh2:

[aikemirv]

It is one of the same reasons people get up in arms about children being abused more than they would adult women.

It is not that they are ok with adult women being abused. Unless you abuse women yourself chances are you are not going to be ok with it.

Children are normally caught in it and do not have the means to escape it most of the time.

Children and dogs depend on adults to shelter them, feed them and protect them and they should never be set up to be taken advantage of for a terrible reason of entertainment of certain situations.

Nobody wants to see women get abused, and we have no clue if that is the case in this situation at all. We have no report saying the girl was hit, kicked, bitten or any other information.

We do have information of what the vick situation entails. Whether it has been proven or not at least we know what it is about in specific details.

People sometimes just go overboard trying to justify one thing with something completely different IMO.

Taking one thread about one topic and feeling the need to go into a completely different thread about a different topic that is barely similar...spout off some holier than thou stuff or calling out people and than probably wonder why someone would argue about it.

I really don't like M&M blizzards from Dairy Queen. So after work I think I will go to McDonalds and complain about their milk shakes.

I mean they both are ice cream related products from fast food joints and I want to make a stink about it.


The issue is not about calling people out or holier than though it is more about what people have said about Vick on this board, not really because what he did was illegal, but because they have a moral problem with it and just think it is absolutely terrible, a scourge on society, and my point is that there are many worse things that people do, IMO, wife beaters, DUI offenders, those that cheat on their spouse, and the likes that get my post deleted, that do not cost them their job in the NFL, nor cause them to lose their reputations.

IT is hypocritical that this moral violation deserves some worse punishment than the others IMO



And yet we as a country kill innocent human beings every day!

I'm sorry if this just irritates me so much that I am posting about it but it does. People in this country care more about animal rights than they do about other human beings, and these threads prove that.

[BrAinPaiNt]

I love DQ.....

But try Popeyes. Popeyes > KFC. And its not even close, and I like KFC too..


But the spicy mashed potatoes are sooooo good. And there chicken is better.

Actually I am not big on chicken as a whole...thanks Army.

However when I was down south I would take Popeyes any day of the week over KFC.

Loved those red beans and rice.

[BrAinPaiNt]

You comparing fighting dogs to child abuse because neither can defend themselves is like comparing having a dog herd cattle for you to slavery ......

Now make another "argument" about how close minded I am :rolleyes:

And you just proved you don't get what I was saying.

Geez I am shocked.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Oh I agree that lack of posts on a message board does not necessarily = lack of outrage. But then when you start talking about it, and people start actually trying to rationalize and justify why dog fighting is as bad or worse than domestic violence, that looks like a lack of outrage regarding the domestic violence.

I think some of it is desensitization as well. Domestic violence is old news. Dog fighting is new.

Or it could be people just don't care about Chad Eaton so they either don't bother going into a thread about him or they just read a little of it and go about their business.

I also doubt you will see this on sports center and other news channels every hour for weeks on end compared to Vick.

Why...do you think people are not sympathetic to women getting beaten? No of course that is not the reason.

This whole argument started because someone wanted to make a look at me post and tie it into Vick.

If Left Offensive tackle Todd Fordham of Carolina gets arrested for stealing a high priced car. But at the same time QB Eli Manning gets arrested for stealing a x-box.

Both committed a crime. One is obviously more serious.

Which do you honestly think would get more press and generate more talk about on a message board?

They both were arrested for stealing things. They both were in the wrong.
But who is going to generate more media reactions and reactions of fans on NFL message boards.

It is obvious who will generate more.

Just saying...some people just do not get into it as much if it is basically a nobody compared to someone that is a franchise super star.

[BrAinPaiNt]

The issue is not about calling people out or holier than though it is more about what people have said about Vick on this board, not really because what he did was illegal, but because they have a moral problem with it and just think it is absolutely terrible, a scourge on society, and my point is that there are many worse things that people do, IMO, wife beaters, DUI offenders, those that cheat on their spouse, and the likes that get my post deleted, that do not cost them their job in the NFL, nor cause them to lose their reputations.

IT is hypocritical that this moral violation deserves some worse punishment than the others IMO



And yet we as a country kill innocent human beings every day!

I'm sorry if this just irritates me so much that I am posting about it but it does. People in this country care more about animal rights than they do about other human beings, and these threads prove that.


Let's make a bet.

The scenario is the following.

Someone kidnaps your Wife, your Children and your Dogs/Cats.

You are informed that one of them will be abused and could possibly die due to that abuse.

You have to choose one and the other two will not be hurt and they will be let free.

You have to choose one of the three...there is not any other option.

Here is the bet...how many on this forum do you honestly feel would choose their wife or children to be abused over their dogs?

The thing is, just because someone cares about what vick has done to dogs, but are not that interested in what some guy like Eaton does (which there are no details AT THIS TIME) does...does not mean people think it is ok to do one or the other.