View Full Version : Lets say Mcfadden is taken already?
dalboy
08-08-2007, 01:27 PM
Lets say we have the #2 and Mcfadden was taken #1 overall who do we get.
5Stars
08-08-2007, 01:29 PM
Lets say we have the #2 and Mcfadden was taken #1 overall who do we get.
We get to pick from #2 on down to the last player drafted?
:confused:
;) ;)
baj1dallas
08-08-2007, 01:30 PM
there's a whole lot of offseason for this type of talk you know...
dalboy
08-08-2007, 01:31 PM
like next year if with the browns pick we get #2 and mcfadden was taken 1 who do we get.
ZeroClub
08-08-2007, 01:31 PM
Well, if you've got the #2 and the guy you really want is gone, you gotta consider trading back a bit and picking up some premium picks.
The Realist
08-08-2007, 01:40 PM
I'm going to bust up if we go D again early in one.
RIGHT NOW I'd say Calais Campbell, Laurenitis and Groves are better than any WR, RB or CB (need positions) we could take up top.
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Hostile
08-08-2007, 02:00 PM
Lets say we have the #2 and Mcfadden was taken #1 overall who do we get.There are a lot of options. Just a few.
Jake Long, OT, Michigan
Sam Baker, OT, USC
Calais Campbell, DE, Miami
Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU
Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona
Trade the pick to someone looking QB.
Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville if we need a QB.
Our hands certainly wouldn't be tied.
Doomsday101
08-08-2007, 02:02 PM
Lets say we have the #2 and Mcfadden was taken #1 overall who do we get.
Depends on who is coming out next season and how the college players perform this season
StevenOtero
08-08-2007, 02:20 PM
There are a lot of options. Just a few.
Jake Long, OT, Michigan
Sam Baker, OT, USC
Calais Campbell, DE, Miami
Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU
Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona
Trade the pick to someone looking QB.
Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville if we need a QB.
Our hands certainly wouldn't be tied.If we were to trade a #2 overall pick. The internet would crash.
el_chevo
08-08-2007, 02:23 PM
There are a lot of options. Just a few.
Jake Long, OT, Michigan
Sam Baker, OT, USC
Calais Campbell, DE, Miami
Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU
Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona
Trade the pick to someone looking QB.
Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville if we need a QB.
Our hands certainly wouldn't be tied.
Good choice with the Cason pick, Hostile...
Bob Sacamano
08-08-2007, 02:24 PM
There are a lot of options. Just a few.
Jake Long, OT, Michigan
Sam Baker, OT, USC
Calais Campbell, DE, Miami
Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU
Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona
Trade the pick to someone looking QB.
Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville if we need a QB.
Our hands certainly wouldn't be tied.
if Cason was available w/ our 2nd, 1st, I'd take him in a heartbeat, that would be a steal
Sam I Am
08-08-2007, 02:25 PM
Lets say the 7th round pick that we wanted is gone. Who do we take instead? :moon:
Big Dakota
08-08-2007, 02:30 PM
I'm in the RB camp and have been for a long time and that won't change. Why? Becuase we didn't offer JJ and extension because we will let him walk IMO. This is shaping up to be the best RB class in years(as Scott said) and we will have a top 10 pick. Now is the time to get a franchise type RB we thought JJ would be and hasn't become and certainly WON'T this year with the owner and coach saying MB3 and TT MAY be getting even MORE carries in 2007. RB will be the first priority, or didn't you guys hear Stephen Jones say DMac's name when we traded with Cleveland????????
DallasInDC
08-08-2007, 02:30 PM
Well, if you've got the #2 and the guy you really want is gone, you gotta consider trading back a bit and picking up some premium picks.
I agree with this approach especially if team is sitting there with 2 #1's that wants to move up. That way you could possibly get a quality WR, RB/OL CB, with your 3 #1's and OL and DT with your 2 #2. That should address any weaknesses this team has and set us for long-term success
I know cap wise you wouldn't want to sign and then resign 3 first rd. picks in the same year but I can dream can't I.
Tristan
08-08-2007, 02:34 PM
Steve Slaten, Desean Jackson, if they come out. Probably trade down a couple of picks and use the extra pick to trade up with the second first.
First off I say we throw in our second first to move up and get Mcfadden, I beleive that is our plan.
If we can't get Mcfadden, I would like to see us come away with Slaten and a WR like Jackson or Manningaham, or a CB like Cason or the guy from Kansas with the funny name.
Big Dakota
08-08-2007, 02:34 PM
Well, if you've got the #2 and the guy you really want is gone, you gotta consider trading back a bit and picking up some premium picks.
Yes, if Romo is a hit and DMac is gone, and we have #2, we trade back. If Romo is a hit and DMac is taken #1, can you imagine what Brohm could be worth? Another 2nd in 2008 and another #1 in 2009 for trading just a few picks.
Stautner
08-08-2007, 02:35 PM
This is unanswerable. There simply is no way to accurately project who will be a hot commodity and who will fade some a year in advance.
Hell, as good as McFadden seems to be now, it's not out of the realm of possibility that he could have a dropoff next season or that some other RB could have a great year and end up projected higher ...... much stranger things have happened.
bbgun
08-08-2007, 02:35 PM
I'd draft Flo's or Henry's replacement.
Big Dakota
08-08-2007, 02:37 PM
Steve Slaten, Desean Jackson, if they come out. Probably trade down a couple of picks and use the extra pick to trade up with the second first.
First off I say we throw in our second first to move up and get Mcfadden, I beleive that is our plan.
If we can't get Mcfadden, I would like to see us come away with Slaten and a WR like Jackson or Manningaham, or a CB like Cason or the guy from Kansas with the funny name.
Aqib Talib, and being a Husker fan(for the most part) i've watched a lot of that Conf. and i'm of the opinion this kid may end up being in TNew's class in 3 years.
Champsheart
08-08-2007, 02:38 PM
There are a lot of options. Just a few.
Jake Long, OT, Michigan
Sam Baker, OT, USC
Calais Campbell, DE, Miami
Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU
Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona
Trade the pick to someone looking QB.
Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville if we need a QB.
Our hands certainly wouldn't be tied.
Long - I like this pick
Baker - not a believer yet, not sure I will be
Campbell - I need to focus on this year, not sure
Dorsey - Like that pick
Cason - Like that pick
The thing is I really want Fire Power on offense out of this draft. I really like both McFadden and Slaton and would love to have one of these guys. The thing about both is they bring a dimension he have not had in years on Offense, and that is the threat as a receiver as well. I would love to see us add a player to this offense that gives that Bush/Faulk dimension. OH MY!
Not sure if we can get either one with our next First rounder. If we are at #2 and who ever is drafting #1 will switch for our other first rounder, at this point I do it to get McFadden. That may be subject to change after next year, but right now I do it.
Big Dakota
08-08-2007, 02:42 PM
This is unanswerable. There simply is no way to accurately project who will be a hot commodity and who will fade some a year in advance.
Hell, as good as McFadden seems to be now, it's not out of the realm of possibility that he could have a dropoff next season or that some other RB could have a great year and end up projected higher ...... much stranger things have happened.
They do have Felix Jones and he will get big numbers, but barring injury DMac won't fall off much. Certainly not out of the top 10, where we will certainly be. Unless he gets arrested for something. Even then i'm guessing with his game and Hog roots, he'd have to do something awfully egregious for Jerry to pass.
iceberg
08-08-2007, 02:45 PM
Lets say we have the #2 and Mcfadden was taken #1 overall who do we get.
we get to play out this year before it really matters. there are far too many factors to be decided before we draft *again* without our last *real* picks even playing a game yet.
we have to see what our players do
AND
the next draft class still has a year to play before we'll know who the top 10 are.
file this under "premature".
Big Dakota
08-08-2007, 02:46 PM
Long - I like this pick
Baker - not a believer yet, not sure I will be
Campbell - I need to focus on this year, not sure
Dorsey - Like that pick
Cason - Like that pick
The thing is I really want Fire Power on offense out of this draft. I really like both McFadden and Slaton and would love to have one of these guys. The thing about both is they bring a dimension he have not had in years on Offense, and that is the threat as a receiver as well. I would love to see us add a player to this offense that gives that Bush/Faulk dimension. OH MY!
Not sure if we can get either one with our next First rounder. If we are at #2 and who ever is drafting #1 will switch for our other first rounder, at this point I do it to get McFadden. That may be subject to change after next year, but right now I do it.
Well said, and it will be said again and again and again by those of us who have your thought process, between now and next April.
Stautner
08-08-2007, 02:49 PM
They do have Felix Jones and he will get big numbers, but barring injury DMac won't fall off much. Certainly not out of the top 10, where we will certainly be. Unless he gets arrested for something. Even then i'm guessing with his game and Hog roots, he'd have to do something awfully egregious for Jerry to pass.
This is all "probably true", but not a certainty.
Besides, the primary point was about who we would take if McFadden were gone, and my point is that if we can't even say McFadden, who is as close to a sure ting as we can see at this point, is certain not to drop off, then we can't say that about anyone ...... we just can't sit and project at this point.
Hell, I think that the whole thread even starts on a pretty shakey premis, which is that we would have our choice of any player in the draft not named McFadden. But it was the originator's choice to set the terms of the thread, so we have to go with it.
McCordsville Cowboy
08-08-2007, 02:50 PM
Jake Long will be a franchise left tackle for 15 years .....
He is a beast and he has good feet.
A WR is needed also but hopefully Dallas can pick one with its 32nd pick...
amuze
08-08-2007, 02:52 PM
Let me precursor this by saying I'm biased. :) However, I'd go with Desean Jackson for a few reasons.
1. Our WR's are old (restating the obvious) and we do need to address that soon. He'd be a good slot receiver initially and eventually a premier #1 guy.
2. He has superb cuts/balance and would make an excellent punt or kickoff returner. Watch some of his YouTube videos and you'll know what I'm talking about.
3. DJax has incrediby blazing fast speed. I can see the guy running a 4.2-4.3 40 in the combines next year. After watching him play live in a few games last year, it really seemed like everyone else on the field was in slow motion when he broke stride and start hauling a$$.
The obvious downside to DJax is his size and whether or not he'll be able to take the hits in the NFL. Hopefully by combine time, he'll be around 185-190 lbs.
My 2 cents.
EDIT: I just read an article about DJax from last year and apparently he was timed at 4.29 on a day he didn't even know he was going to be clocked.
Stautner
08-08-2007, 02:53 PM
Jake Long will be a franchise left tackle for 15 years .....
He is a beast and he has good feet.
A WR is needed also but hopefully Dallas can pick one with its 32nd pick...
Nobody is an NFL beast before their senior year of college ...... or even after it for that matter.
The only NFL beasts are those that prove it on an NFL field against NFL players.
Woods
08-08-2007, 02:56 PM
Hypothetically speaking (DMac already gone), I'd consider trading down a few spots (like we did with Roy Williams), but stay in the top 10, and pick up an extra pick in the 2nd or 3rd round.
I'd like to come away with a CB (Henry's replacement), WR (TO and Glenn's replacement), and/or a DT (Fergy's replacement). Any two of the three positions would be fine by me.
Tristan
08-08-2007, 02:59 PM
I love Jackson, I think we will do what it takes to get Mcfadden to revive our great RB tradition, when you grew up watching Dorsett and Emmit a "good" rb won't do.
Slaton and Jackson are the other two players who I think would give our offense a young explosive elte player, any of these three guys would be nice.
Jackson reminds me of a cross between Ted Ginn Jr. and T.O.
Big Dakota
08-08-2007, 03:00 PM
This is all "probably true", but not a certainty.
Besides, the primary point was about who we would take if McFadden were gone, and my point is that if we can't even say McFadden, who is as close to a sure ting as we can see at this point, is certain not to drop off, then we can't say that about anyone ...... we just can't sit and project at this point.
Hell, I think that the whole thread even starts on a pretty shakey premis, which is that we would have our choice of any player in the draft not named McFadden. But it was the originator's choice to set the terms of the thread, so we have to go with it.
Same could be said of the presidential race, but "projection" on that 15 months in advance seems to be billion dollar industry. I agree it's impossible to pin point a guy or even a handfull of guys, but that doesn't make "projecting" wrong or any less fun. We all have our opinions and i think we are all smart enought to know, no matter how steadfast we are in our opinions, no one knows for sure despite what the thread starter intended. But that's why i love this place, because there are so many knowledgable people with some many varied opinions, even 8 months before the draft. There is no right or wrong, just discussion.
ZeroClub
08-08-2007, 03:05 PM
I love Jackson, I think we will do what it takes to get Mcfadden to revive our great RB tradition, when you grew up watching Dorsett and Emmit a "good" rb won't do.
Slaton and Jackson are the other two players who I think would give our offense a young explosive elte player, any of these three guys would be nice.
Jackson reminds me of a cross between Ted Ginn Jr. and T.O.
It isn't too farfetched to think that the Cowboys might just be able to get two of those three (i.e., Slaton and Jackson) if the Cowboys wanted to make it happen.
Big Dakota
08-08-2007, 03:06 PM
Jake Long will be a franchise left tackle for 15 years .....
He is a beast and he has good feet.
A WR is needed also but hopefully Dallas can pick one with its 32nd pick...
I've been a draftnik since 1987 and two of the most hyped CAN'T MISS OLman i've ever seen were Tony Mandarich and Robert Gallery, and that was AFTER their senior seasons, the bowls and the combine.
amuze
08-08-2007, 03:14 PM
I couldn't resist. Here are some DJax videos for your viewing pleasure:
1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo9e2Jf7R0o (The hit by DeCoud is great too!)
2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-cZsfr_Jd4 (I was at this game and remember nearly losing my voice.)
3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSHO4fqVyyg
4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpaV2IxXQK0 (watch the juke he puts on the CB)
McCordsville Cowboy
08-08-2007, 03:15 PM
Nobody is an NFL beast before their senior year of college ...... or even after it for that matter.
The only NFL beasts are those that prove it on an NFL field against NFL players.
You OBVIOUSLY never seen A Michigan game. I am not a Michigan fan by any means but when he plays he dominates.. He might have been picked over Joe Thomas THIS year and definitely would have gone before Levi Brown. He just wanted to have a national title shot with Henne , Hart , and Manningham.
So before you blow hot air out your rear, know about what your talking about before you amuse people....
http://static.flickr.com/144/322325017_342081acda_o.jpg
amuze
08-08-2007, 03:16 PM
It isn't too farfetched to think that the Cowboys might just be able to get two of those three (i.e., Slaton and Jackson) if the Cowboys wanted to make it happen.
I love the greed. Would be quite an exciting draft if we pulled that off.
iceberg
08-08-2007, 03:19 PM
You OBVIOUSLY never seen A Michigan game. I am not a Michigan fan by any means but when he plays he dominates.. He might have been picked over Joe Thomas THIS year and definitely would have gone before Levi Brown. He just wanted to have a national title shot with Henne , Hart , and Manningham.
So before you blow hot air out your rear, know about what your talking about before you amuse people....
http://static.flickr.com/144/322325017_342081acda_o.jpg
he listed some very "tough company" to be a "can't miss" prospect of those who have in fact missed by a large margin. to say a "can't miss" *can in fact miss* is an accurate statement. i don't care how many times you've seen him play.
let's let the year play out people. otherwise i wanna start looking to the 2020 draft cause it's fun!
Big Dakota
08-08-2007, 03:19 PM
I couldn't resist. Here are some DJax videos for your viewing pleasure:
1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo9e2Jf7R0o (The hit by DeCoud is great too!)
2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-cZsfr_Jd4 (I was at this game and remember nearly losing my voice.)
3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSHO4fqVyyg
4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpaV2IxXQK0 (watch the juke he puts on the CB)
Since you're a huge fan, can you keep us informd as to his weight gain, if there is any? Because at his listed 170ish he needs to add some muscle and weight before anyone takes him seriously as a top 10 pick. At least get up to the Starvin Marvin Harrison weight of 180:D
amuze
08-08-2007, 03:32 PM
Since you're a huge fan, can you keep us informd as to his weight gain, if there is any? Because at his listed 170ish he needs to add some muscle and weight before anyone takes him seriously as a top 10 pick. At least get up to the Starvin Marvin Harrison weight of 180:D
Yes, he's skinny. :) Nobody is denying that. He spent this past off season participating in a weight gain program. I see him listed as 172 on the Cal athletics site. Can he put on 8+ lbs by next spring? We'll see.
ThreeSportStar80
08-08-2007, 03:34 PM
I would go with a guy like Sweed from Texas and Mike Hart from Univ. of Michigan..
zeromaster
08-08-2007, 03:41 PM
Lets say the 7th round pick that we wanted is gone. Who do we take instead? :moon:
Another TE of course.
:lmao2:
BlueStar II
08-08-2007, 03:55 PM
I'll have to wait and see how the players perform this year, and who declares their eligibility. That being said, unless a defensive player who "really" stands head and shoulders above all the rest, i.e., a Lawrence Taylor type of player, I would hope that we will go with a player on the offensive side of the ball. While I'm not necessarily going to zero in on WRs only this year, but considering the age of our starters and that behind them, our young WRs still do not have all that much game experience yet, I wouldn't be at all upset if we were to land a top level, and ideally an "impact" type WR with our first pick. Again, I'm not saying that we should or would lock in on a WR, but I think it will definitely be in our team's best interests if we keep a "close watch" on the progress of the young WRs who will be draft eligible next year. If there was another WR with the physical abilities of someone like Calvin Johnson was this year, I would hope that we would give a great deal of consideration toward that player, but of course players with Johnson's physical abilities don't come along every year though.
Bob Sacamano
08-08-2007, 03:58 PM
don't sleep on Clemson RB James Davis...
Tristan
08-08-2007, 04:01 PM
It isn't too farfetched to think that the Cowboys might just be able to get two of those three (i.e., Slaton and Jackson) if the Cowboys wanted to make it happen.
I was thinking one or the other, but if we could come away with Slaton AND Jackson that would be unreal. I guess it is possible, especially if we do move down a couple of spots for Slaton and pick up a second that could be packaged with our late first to move up for Jackson.
If you really want to wet dream, how bout we get Mcfadden with Clevands pick and Jackson with our pick.
To be honest though, given the fact that our first is going to be at the bottom of the first, it is exciting just think that one of these explosive playmakers has a good chance of being a Cowboy next year thanks to Cleveland.
Kangaroo
08-08-2007, 04:04 PM
Who cares until after the season
We have no clue where we will be drafting could we get the #1 or 2 pick yes but we could also end up with #8 or something
Quit counting the chickens before they hatch and lets wait and see if McFadden stays healthy what happens if he blows out a knee (no that I am not wishing that) but Willis Mcghee comes to mind he was a top 5 pick before his knee went pop in that Miami game.
So can wejust wait and see what happens 1st
Champsheart
08-08-2007, 05:11 PM
don't sleep on Clemson RB James Davis...
TRUE, he could be a very interesting prospect
Hostile
08-08-2007, 05:18 PM
Long - I like this pick
Baker - not a believer yet, not sure I will be
Campbell - I need to focus on this year, not sure
Dorsey - Like that pick
Cason - Like that pick
The thing is I really want Fire Power on offense out of this draft. I really like both McFadden and Slaton and would love to have one of these guys. The thing about both is they bring a dimension he have not had in years on Offense, and that is the threat as a receiver as well. I would love to see us add a player to this offense that gives that Bush/Faulk dimension. OH MY!
Not sure if we can get either one with our next First rounder. If we are at #2 and who ever is drafting #1 will switch for our other first rounder, at this point I do it to get McFadden. That may be subject to change after next year, but right now I do it.I like the term firepower for this draft.
That is why I want McFadden with the Browns' pick, and the best available WR with our pick.
Someone mentioned Cason with our pick. He won't drop that far unless he gets hurt. Top 10 pick.
In all seriousness, McFadden is the player I absolutely want, and have wanted from the second I heard we got Cleveland's 2008 1st rounder. If it can't happen...oh well.
5Stars
08-08-2007, 05:18 PM
TRUE, he could be a very interesting prospect
Um, who really cares.
McCordsville Cowboy
08-08-2007, 05:22 PM
I like the term firepower for this draft.
That is why I want McFadden with the Browns' pick, and the best available WR with our pick.
Someone mentioned Cason with our pick. He won't drop that far unless he gets hurt. Top 10 pick.
In all seriousness, McFadden is the player I absolutely want, and have wanted from the second I heard we got Cleveland's 2008 1st rounder. If it can't happen...oh well.
Agreed... If McFadden is available he is a no brainer.. And a big play WR should be a high priority based on or 33 year old starting WR's
Champsheart
08-08-2007, 05:30 PM
Um, who really cares.
:lmao2: :lmao2:
Did you hunt for that just to post this, or just run across it and decided to be funny? :D
Champsheart
08-08-2007, 05:31 PM
I like the term firepower for this draft.
That is why I want McFadden with the Browns' pick, and the best available WR with our pick.
Someone mentioned Cason with our pick. He won't drop that far unless he gets hurt. Top 10 pick.
In all seriousness, McFadden is the player I absolutely want, and have wanted from the second I heard we got Cleveland's 2008 1st rounder. If it can't happen...oh well.
:hammer:
5Stars
08-08-2007, 05:32 PM
:lmao2: :lmao2:
Did you hunt for that just to post this, or just run across it and decided to be funny? :D
What would Deion Sanders say, huh?
;)
Champsheart
08-08-2007, 05:34 PM
What would Deion Sanders say, huh?
;)
:jackpot:
jackrussell
08-08-2007, 05:50 PM
I could be a happy camper coming away with Jake Long and Manningham.
Now if you'll excuse me...I must shower.
I feel so dirty.
Hostile
08-08-2007, 05:51 PM
I could be a happy camper coming away with Jake Long and Manningham.
Now if you'll excuse me...I must shower.
I feel so dirty.Do you think Manningham would last to the late first? I think he might end up top 15 along with Desean Jackson of Cal.
I'd love to have Long or Baker.
Champsheart
08-08-2007, 05:53 PM
Do you think Manningham would last to the late first? I think he might end up top 15 along with Desean Jackson of Cal.
I'd love to have Long or Baker.
That is hard to tell, but you may be right.
Could you imagine getting McFadden and Jackson or Manningham. OH MY! There is my FIREPOWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hostile
08-08-2007, 05:57 PM
That is hard to tell, but you may be right.
Could you imagine getting McFadden and Jackson or Manningham. OH MY! There is my FIREPOWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!I plan to go to the Draft. If we got McFadden and Manningham I'd need a tranquilizer gun to calm me down.
jackrussell
08-08-2007, 06:09 PM
Do you think Manningham would last to the late first? I think he might end up top 15 along with Desean Jackson of Cal.
I'd love to have Long or Baker.
Not late 1st...15-20 right now I guess...less someone jumps on him too early(cue Ted Ginn).
I see us at about 25...anything could happen at that point.
At any rate, if we're picking that late...alot of things will have gone right...Romo and JJones in particular. Time to add some new toys on offense to make that final push.
5Stars
08-08-2007, 06:12 PM
I plan to go to the Draft. If we got McFadden and Manningham I'd need a tranquilizer gun to calm me down.
2nd time going to the draft? Now that is slick! I have been to the HOF but not the draft! At least you will know about those "turnstile" doors now! :laugh2:
(is that redhead girl going to be there? i might need to go along)
:cool: yes...
Chocolate Lab
08-08-2007, 06:16 PM
If we're picking at #2 and not trading down, we'd better not take a WR. I'd want one of the premier positions: Left tackle, defensive tackle, or cornerback... Assuming that we don't need a QB, of course.
Actually, that pick is one that no one really wants. Those picks cost a fortune nowdays, and it's too much to pay for what is a great unknown. That's why no one trades up for them, unless they need a QB.
And as some of the more intelligent posters have already noted ;) , there's no such thing as a can't-miss pick. Such an animal doesn't exist.
In a really perfect world, we'd trade down a few picks and pick up at least a third and maybe a second. Then I'd feel a lot more comforable drafting a top DT, LT, CB or even RB. Save the WR for the later first rounder.
5Stars
08-08-2007, 06:25 PM
If we're picking at #2 and not trading down, we'd better not take a WR. I'd want one of the premier positions: Left tackle, defensive tackle, or cornerback... Assuming that we don't need a QB, of course.
Nice! It's good to have draft picks...that's how you build a strong team.
;)
AsthmaField
08-08-2007, 06:31 PM
Not that we need DE or OLB... but if this guy goes anywhere near where we are supposed to pick... I wouldn't mind us taking him.
Vernon Gholston
http://i.a.cnn.net./si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0704/gallery.nfl.2008.draft.candids/images/gholston.jpg
AsthmaField
08-08-2007, 06:33 PM
Aquib Talib
http://i.a.cnn.net./si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0704/gallery.nfl.2008.draft.candids/images/talib.jpg
AsthmaField
08-08-2007, 06:35 PM
DeSean Jackson
A little Small... but a game changer.
http://i.a.cnn.net./si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0704/gallery.nfl.2008.draft.candids/images/jackson.desean.a.jpg
AsthmaField
08-08-2007, 06:36 PM
Of course the main guy I'd like if McFadden isn't a Cowboy...
Steve Slaton
http://i.a.cnn.net./si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0704/gallery.nfl.2008.draft.candids/images/slanton.a.jpg
Chocolate Lab
08-08-2007, 06:43 PM
I dunno, Asthma... Gholston looks kinda lazy... I think he needs to get in the gym every once in a while. :p:
AsthmaField
08-08-2007, 06:45 PM
I dunno, Asthma... Gholston looks kinda lazy... I think he needs to get in the gym every once in a while. :p:
H does look a little soft doesn't he.
To be honest, I haven't watched him play... just the way he looks made me post his pic.
Someone did say that he plays pretty well and SI had him as a difference maker for this coming season... so we shall see. If he plays up to his physical abilities... he'll be a monster. :eek:
Hailmary
08-08-2007, 06:49 PM
Do you think Manningham would last to the late first? I think he might end up top 15 along with Desean Jackson of Cal.
I'd love to have Long or Baker.
Not thrilled w/ either one of those WRs. Actually, I'm not thrilled w/ the upcoming crop of WRs. I realize the college season hasn't even started yet, but the top prospects at the WR position so far are midgets.
Now Jake Long, I agree w/ you a 100%. You've coveted McFadden ever since the Browns trade was announced, me I've coveted Jake Long w/ the pick. The bonus w/ Long, however, is that he may not even go in the top 5. We may be able to trade down w/ the Browns pick and still grab him if we choose (which could be parlayed to us picking up Slaton).
McCordsville Cowboy
08-08-2007, 07:28 PM
Not thrilled w/ either one of those WRs. Actually, I'm not thrilled w/ the upcoming crop of WRs. I realize the college season hasn't even started yet, but the top prospects at the WR position so far are midgets.
Now Jake Long, I agree w/ you a 100%. You've coveted McFadden ever since the Browns trade was announced, me I've coveted Jake Long w/ the pick. The bonus w/ Long, however, is that he may not even go in the top 5. We may be able to trade down w/ the Browns pick and still grab him if we choose (which could be parlayed to us picking up Slaton).
I like him too but unfortunately he will be Robert Gallery....
cboyd
08-08-2007, 08:55 PM
Adarius Bowman but you dont have to take my word on it just watch this when he is on College Football on ESPN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hG1EV_qq2I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hG1EV_qq2I)
daniukid
08-08-2007, 09:07 PM
Let's get DeSean Jackson! We need a young receiver. Last year, 20% of the punts he returned were for TD. To put that in perspective, each time he caught and ran it back the other team would effectively get safetied and lose 2 points! That is amazing!! ([6 pts for TD + 1 pt for kick after] * .2 = 1.4 pts). #2 may be too high, so I'm down with trading down and picking up a 2nd and a 3rd if the opp presents itself.
DeSean can learn from TO and TG plus fortify the return and KO game.
-daniukid
TVMan
08-08-2007, 09:37 PM
QB...Andre Woodson, Kentucky
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DE...Calais Campbell, Miami
DE...Tommy Blake, TCU
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NT...Frank Okam, Texas
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StanleySpadowski
08-08-2007, 10:26 PM
If he declares, Justin King is who I'd take. He's kind of buried by the cover-2 that Penn State plays but he's the best CB prospect since Deion Sanders.
The most impressive game from a physical standpoint I've ever seen was two years ago at Beaver Stadium against Ohio State. Penn State went away from their normal cover-2 at times matching King on Ginn. King was baiting Smith by giving Ginn a couple yards on flys then closing the gap.
Simply the second faster player I've ever seen.
Hostile
08-09-2007, 09:48 AM
If he declares, Justin King is who I'd take. He's kind of buried by the cover-2 that Penn State plays but he's the best CB prospect since Deion Sanders.
The most impressive game from a physical standpoint I've ever seen was two years ago at Beaver Stadium against Ohio State. Penn State went away from their normal cover-2 at times matching King on Ginn. King was baiting Smith by giving Ginn a couple yards on flys then closing the gap.
Simply the second faster player I've ever seen.Thanks for the tip, I will watch him and see how he compares to my kid Antoine Cason.
StanleySpadowski
08-09-2007, 12:03 PM
Thanks for the tip, I will watch him and see how he compares to my kid Antoine Cason.
Cason's a heckuva player also. I wouldn't mind seeing him with a star on the side of his helmet.
King made a bad choice in picking Penn State. It's not a defense to showcase his skills but IIRC his dad or step dad played there.
Hostile
08-09-2007, 12:08 PM
Cason's a heckuva player also. I wouldn't mind seeing him with a star on the side of his helmet.
King made a bad choice in picking Penn State. It's not a defense to showcase his skills but IIRC his dad or step dad played there.We need to create a thread for the Draft Zone that is a comprehensive list of players to watch in 2007. It would be cool to keep it updated for each game they play.
David276
08-09-2007, 12:10 PM
jerrrryuh will be be-headed if mcfadden isnt our first pick by the fans.
jazzcat22
08-09-2007, 12:11 PM
There are a lot of options. Just a few.
Jake Long, OT, Michigan
Sam Baker, OT, USC
Calais Campbell, DE, Miami
Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU
Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona
Trade the pick to someone looking QB.
Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville if we need a QB.
Our hands certainly wouldn't be tied.
With the #1 overall, and the #32 overall, we can control the draft, like in the days of Jimmy....:D
Stautner
08-09-2007, 12:14 PM
jerrrryuh will be be-headed if mcfadden isnt our first pick by the fans.
Huh ..... ? care to rephrase that in a more coherent order?
But, since I get your drift, I will say that I don't see how the fans can hold him accountable for not drafting a guy if it turns out the guy was already drafted before our turn.
BouncingCheese
08-09-2007, 12:20 PM
Then we are probably going to pick a player we don't want; nobody would want a pick that high. I was at Redskins park draft day and they were trying so damn hard to trade out of that pick, but because players and picks are devalued on draft day because of the time constraints and pressure, they didn't make a deal. I see a similar situation to that if we are no 2 and Mcfadden taken.
StanleySpadowski
08-09-2007, 12:53 PM
We need to create a thread for the Draft Zone that is a comprehensive list of players to watch in 2007. It would be cool to keep it updated for each game they play.
Great idea.
I just started a thread on it in the draft zone.
dallasfan
08-13-2007, 10:32 PM
I'm going to bust up if we go D again early in one.
RIGHT NOW I'd say Calais Campbell, Laurenitis and Groves are better than any WR, RB or CB (need positions) we could take up top.
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I'd pass on them all. Calais Campbell would struggle here. Does he add weight and play DE or does he transition to OLB. IMO, he's a 4-3 end. Laurenitis would be a MLB, and would be the 5th best on th team (not good for a #2 pick) and Groves would be in a similar situation (Behind Ware and Spencer, possibly Ellis).
If we had the #2 pick and McFadden was gone, I'd trade down get a #1 next year, and draft Slaton. If I couldn't trade down at all, I'd take Glenn Dorsey for NT, or Desean Jackson at WR and try to trade up for Slaton.
LatinMind
08-13-2007, 10:42 PM
i dont think the browns will be 1 or 2. they're nowhere near as bad as atlanta, arizona, and oakland.
atlanta no qb, scrub wr's.
zona, patchwork OL. leinart is going to get killed. they look real bad.
oakland. ugly ugly ugly.
then the browns still arent as bad as the vikings
i think cleveland will be fighting with KC for 5 or 6th.
great pick with the talent that will be avail. but i'd like dallas to trade down, for a 09 pick.dallas will need more picks as they'l be needing young players in key posistions.
wr, and cb mostly.
a pick in the 12-16 pick will land dallas either a very good wr, or a very good NT. something they'll need in 08.
but i dont see cleveland as bad as them top 4 teams
dallasfan
08-13-2007, 10:50 PM
We should all root for Brady Quinn to start, if he does we have a legitimate shot at the top pick. If not it should be:
1)Atlanta- This Michael Vick thing is going to decimate the team, Little offensive talent and an averege (if not below averege defense) equals sucktitude.
2)Kansas City- This depends on Larry Johnson, if he plays, they'll still be around top 5 imo. If he doesn't they could battle Atlanta.
3)Minnesota- I haven't seen much of Tavarius Jackson, but count me as a doubter. No talent at WR (except the rookie Rice), and a suspect D should equal a top 5 pick.
I actually think Arizona and Oakland are better than Cleveland though
DallasCowboysRule!
08-14-2007, 06:45 PM
There are a lot of options. Just a few.
Jake Long, OT, Michigan
Sam Baker, OT, USC
Calais Campbell, DE, Miami
Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU
Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona
Trade the pick to someone looking QB.
Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville if we need a QB.
Our hands certainly wouldn't be tied.
Jake Long is a beast. I'd love to him on our O-Line.
carphalen5150
08-15-2007, 03:05 PM
DeShawn Jackson...clap clap clapclapclap!
HopeCowboyFan
08-15-2007, 08:19 PM
I'm going to bust up if we go D again early in one.
RIGHT NOW I'd say Calais Campbell, Laurenitis and Groves are better than any WR, RB or CB (need positions) we could take up top.
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Slaton or Rice with 2nd #1:cool: :grab:
MiStar
08-20-2007, 02:13 PM
There are a few RBs that I would take over slaton. He's fast, but that's about it. There's lots of really fast backs in the NFL that haven't done squat. I don't see how slaton is that much better than Tyson Thompson. I'd rather have Jonathan Stewart, Mike Hart, or Ray Rice.
Jake Long would be a sweet addition. Andre Gurode, Leonard Davis, and Jake Long would make converting third and short nearly automatic.
There weill be lots of good RB's and WR's to be had with the later two of our top three picks.
dallasfan
08-21-2007, 09:51 AM
I don't see how slaton is that much better than Tyson Thompson.
Well, he's faster than TT and far more elusive, has shown to be able to carry the load (20 carries per game last year, including 23 against rutgers for 112 yards), and is far superior in the passing game.
zrinkill
08-22-2007, 02:28 PM
Lets say we have the #2 and Mcfadden was taken #1 overall who do we get.
Whoever we get will be compared to Mcfadden his entire career. Half the board will call him a bust before preseason is over. And no matter how good he becomes, some will always cry about what could have been.
Thats just going by the usual response of this boards very passionate fans.
:D
Hiero
08-27-2007, 04:14 PM
There are a few RBs that I would take over slaton. He's fast, but that's about it. There's lots of really fast backs in the NFL that haven't done squat. I don't see how slaton is that much better than Tyson Thompson. I'd rather have Jonathan Stewart, Mike Hart, or Ray Rice.
Jake Long would be a sweet addition. Andre Gurode, Leonard Davis, and Jake Long would make converting third and short nearly automatic.
There weill be lots of good RB's and WR's to be had with the later two of our top three picks.
well you have obviously never seen Slaton or Thompson. Slaton has moves and jukes that Thompson could only dream of. Tyson Thompsons Elusiveness on a scale of 1-100 is probably a 1. Slaton is probably a 100. Plus Slaton is stronger and has much better field vision.
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