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Gryphon
09-01-2007, 10:34 AM
Moss’ Roster Spot on Pats Could be in Jeopardy
Posted by Matt Loede under New England Patriots
http://www.nflgridirongab.com/

Could Patriots wide out Randy Moss possibly not even make the teams roster? It may sound crazy, but sources are saying that the Pats are actually considering releasing Moss, even before he plays a down in New England. The amazing thing is while Moss has forever had to answer questions about his attitude and his off the field behavior, this time his release might be due to something physical, as his hamstring has forced him to miss quite a bit of time as of late. The thing that the Pats have to consider is that he is worth $2.5 mil on this seasons roster if he is on the team opening day, and of course that would be money that New England could use elsewhere if Moss is not on the team.

The teams current wide out roster consists of: Dant’e Stallworth, Wes Welker, Reche Caldwell, Jabar Gaffney, Kelley Washington, Bam Childress, Kelvin Kight, Chris Dunlap, and C.J. Jones. (Chad Jackson and Troy Brown are still on the PUP list.) While thinking that Moss and Stallworth would be a solid 1-2 punch at wide out, and they would, the Pats are always very wise about distractions, and if they think that Moss at some point would be that, then they would likely rather have him off the team than on it. Would Moss get picked up elsewhere? More than likely. There are plenty of teams that would look at Moss and make him the number one or two reciever on their team. The Dolphins, Eagles, Panthers, Vikings (if they would have him back, which likely wouldn’t happen), and the team that was going to trade for Moss - Green Bay, would all take a look at the former Viking and Raider.

Last season with the Raiders, Moss caught 42 passes for 553 yards and scores. Many felt that coming to New England, Moss would be a great fit for QB Tom Brady. That might very well be the case, but of course he has to make the team first. Sources say that the team is very happy with some of their current wide outs that are taking the field right now, with Stallworth leading the way, and Wes Walker also being another nice addition. Moss at 30 years old may be on the downside of his career, and a release from New England may just show that Moss is not as great as he or others around the league thinks he is.

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stealth
09-01-2007, 10:37 AM
he only makes 2.5?
wow

DallasEast
09-01-2007, 10:40 AM
I could care less what condition his hamstring is currently in. That would be THE dumbest move ever. Why cut a player of his caliber who might recover well before the playoffs? Doesn't make much sense. They already knew of his attitude. They made their bed (like we did) and they should lie in it to the bitter end.

CATCH17
09-01-2007, 10:46 AM
If he gets released and im the Jets i'd be all over that.

When Moss comes to play he is one of the few guys in the league who can single handedly beat a team.

skinsscalper
09-01-2007, 10:47 AM
If that is the case, Jones should scoop him up in a heartbeat.

I know, I know this isn't Madden, but Moss would be excellent WR insurance even if he needs a couple weeks to rest up. T.O. Glenn and Moss would be UNSTOPPABLE in 3 WR sets.

SS

:star:

Rack Bauer
09-01-2007, 10:47 AM
If he gets released and im the Jets i'd be all over that.

When Moss comes to play he is one of the few guys in the league who can single handedly beat a team.

Maybe 5 years ago.


That's no longer the case.

DBoys
09-01-2007, 10:48 AM
If he gets released and im the Jets i'd be all over that.

When Moss comes to play he is one of the few guys in the league who can single handedly beat a team.

Moss has not been that guy in a long time.

DBoys
09-01-2007, 10:49 AM
Maybe 5 years ago.


That's no longer the case.

You beat me to it :cool:

theogt
09-01-2007, 10:49 AM
Sign him to play cornerback.

DallasEast
09-01-2007, 10:49 AM
Sign him to play cornerback.
He's got the height and hands alright.

Rack Bauer
09-01-2007, 10:50 AM
Sign him to play cornerback.

He's got the height and hands alright.

:lmao2:


Good stuff. :D

skinsscalper
09-01-2007, 10:51 AM
Actually, if he's released and the Packers don't jump on him in a heartbeat, I fear Brett Favre may have a coronary. :laugh1:

SS

:star:

DallasEast
09-01-2007, 10:54 AM
Actually, if he's released and the Packers don't jump on him in a heartbeat, I fear Brett Favre may have a coronary. :laugh1:

SS

:star:He should take a Vicodin if that were to happen. Oh, wait... is Vicodin effective for heart attacks? Maybe someone should tell Favre about that before...





Too late. :(

Danny White
09-01-2007, 10:57 AM
Didn't Nors predict this a couple of nights ago? :eek:

He's back with a vengeance! :p:

speedkilz88
09-01-2007, 10:57 AM
I don't see it happening, but if it did Greenbay would be the most likely to happen. I can't see Philly or Minny going that route. Childress was with Philly when they had TO and I don't see either team wanting that headache with the vikes knowing all too well about Moss.

Rack Bauer
09-01-2007, 11:00 AM
Didn't Nors predict this a couple of nights ago? :eek:

He's back with a vengeance! :p:

Where's Al Singleton when you need him?

DallasEast
09-01-2007, 11:00 AM
Didn't Nors predict this a couple of nights ago? :eek:

He's back with a vengeance! :p:If anyone knows the Patriots better than the Cowboys, it certainly is Nors!

zrinkill
09-01-2007, 11:11 AM
This thread looks really funny now .....

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86706&highlight=Randy+Moss

McCordsville Cowboy
09-01-2007, 11:20 AM
Moss has not been that guy in a long time.


Your crazy...

CATCH17
09-01-2007, 11:21 AM
The guy still ran a 4.3 40 and if he still has his hops then the only thing that can really stop him is him.

If Moss can stay healthy and play hard I think hes got about 3 more dominant years left in him.

If he doesn't try then what you see is what you get.

Im expecting a big year from him in New England if he makes the team lol.

DBoys
09-01-2007, 11:24 AM
Your crazy...

Your blind

peplaw06
09-01-2007, 11:27 AM
Your crazy...My crazy what??

Your blindMy blind what?

DallasEast
09-01-2007, 11:32 AM
My crazy what??

My blind what?If I had a nickel for every time someone tried to explain the differences between 'your' and 'you're / you are'...

:p:

zrinkill
09-01-2007, 11:34 AM
If I had a nickel for every time someone tried to explain the differences between 'your' and 'you're / you are'...

:p:

I make that mistake all the time as well while typing ..... I think the only time someone points it out on a message board is when they are bored or losing an argument.

peplaw06
09-01-2007, 11:34 AM
If I had a nickel for every time someone tried to explain the differences between 'your' and 'you're / you are'...

:p::laugh2:

Sorry I couldn't resist the little jab at Mike Golic over here ("I can be your hero baby"):laugh2:

DBoys was just the collateral damage...

DallasEast
09-01-2007, 11:38 AM
I make that mistake all the time as well while typing ..... I think the only time someone points it out on a message board is when they are bored or losing an argument.I was guilty of doing that over on the old DMN boards. Clarification: GUILTY of correcting grammar, mind you.







I never lost an argument over there. Never.




:D

DallasEast
09-01-2007, 11:39 AM
:laugh2:

Sorry I couldn't resist the little jab at Mike Golic over here ("I can be your hero baby"):laugh2:

DBoys was just the collateral damage...
:laugh2:

REDVOLUTION
09-01-2007, 11:41 AM
Jerry Jones just let a "money shot" go.

He will be all over Randy Moss... developing....


Ok... who is gonna be the first one to post "Jerry Jones would NEVER sign Randy Moss" - same poster that did it for TO :laugh2:

Rampage
09-01-2007, 11:42 AM
Moss has not been that guy in a long time.
he hasn't had a good qb in a long time;)

zrinkill
09-01-2007, 11:46 AM
Jerry Jones just let a "money shot" go.

He will be all over Randy Moss... developing....


Ok... who is gonna be the first one to post "Jerry Jones would NEVER sign Randy Moss" - same poster that did it for TO :laugh2:

This board would collapse out of panic if that occurred ...... I would kinda like to see it just because of the reaction.

:laugh2:

dallasfaniac
09-01-2007, 11:50 AM
We are going to have a hard enough time getting the ball to TO more; please dear God do not allow Jerry to bring in another "I need the ball every snap" player.

zrinkill
09-01-2007, 11:54 AM
We are going to have a hard enough time getting the ball to TO more; please dear God do not allow Jerry to bring in another "I need the ball every snap" player.


In a dream world Moss and Owens would bond in a way neither has been able to do with a teammate before.

And they would be as worried about each other as much as themselves.

But there is no way in hell I see this happening ...... but it would sure get Jerry some publicity for his new Stadium. :laugh2:

Rampage
09-01-2007, 11:55 AM
moss needs a strong arm qb. romo is not that.

REDVOLUTION
09-01-2007, 11:56 AM
This board would collapse out of panic if that occurred ...... I would kinda like to see it just because of the reaction.

:laugh2:


No... I wouldnt want to see the board get all nasty and stuff...

Hey! In a Madden World it would be nice.... at best it could only work for about 1 year in the real world.

I have to say.... I would give anything to win another SB... even dealing with Moss and TO drama... a SB win is a SB win.. I dont care how we get it.

I am pretty sure I am the only one who feels that way ;)

peplaw06
09-01-2007, 12:06 PM
moss needs a strong arm qb. romo is not that.Right... if we get Moss, Brad Johnson will be starting. Book it.

dbair1967
09-01-2007, 12:11 PM
If he gets released and im the Jets i'd be all over that.

When Moss comes to play he is one of the few guys in the league who can single handedly beat a team.

he cant single handedly beat anybody...the guy is a loser

and oh by the way, his skills have eroded badly

David

TunaFan33
09-01-2007, 12:12 PM
I could care less what condition his hamstring is currently in. That would be THE dumbest move ever. Why cut a player of his caliber who might recover well before the playoffs? Doesn't make much sense. They already knew of his attitude. They made their bed (like we did) and they should lie in it to the bitter end.

They cut Glenn in '01(which left them with a depleted receiving corps)-but now, with Welker, Stallworth, Brady, et al, why not Moss? It won't hurt them a bit.

big dog cowboy
09-01-2007, 12:12 PM
One obvious team no one has mentioned.......the Redstinks. Little Danny boy probably chomping at the bit over this news.

Yeagermeister
09-01-2007, 12:15 PM
Trade Ellis for Moss :D

WoodysGirl
09-01-2007, 12:16 PM
PFT spin

POSTED 8:28 a.m. EDT; UPDATED 8:55 a.m. EDT, September 1, 2007

MOSS ON THE BUBBLE?

There's talk among some league insiders that the New England Patriots are considering whether to release receiver Randy Moss.

Seriously.

We scoffed when we heard it, but then a source explained that the question the Pats are believed to be pondering is whether Moss will become a problem if he is not a focal point of the offense -- or if he isn't in the opening-day starting lineup.

And we agree that this sounds crazy. Exactly as crazy as, say, any rumors that would have been making the rounds on Friday morning that the Jaguars were planning to part ways with Byron Leftwich.

Moss currently is listed as one of the starters at receiver, along with Donte' Stallworth. But Moss suffered a pulled hamstring several weeks ago and has seen only limited duty since then, opening the door for other wideouts to show what they can do.

If this rumor is true, the only logical explanation is that the Pats are wrestling with whether Moss is a luxury that they don't need in order to be successful -- and whether his presence could actually keep them from their goals if he is unhappy with his role.

As we see it, however, it would be easy enough to dump him if he turns out to be a problem. The only financial risk would be his $2.5 million base salary, which becomes guaranteed if he's on the roster when the regular season begins (if he is released and chooses to take the rest of the money as his one-time termination pay).

Then again, maybe coach Bill Belichick doesn't want to divert his attention from getting the team ready to play by monitoring whether a grown man is behaving like one.

The situation bears watching as Saturday unfolds. Even if Moss stays, there's sure to be plenty of upheaval at the receiver position as final cuts are made, given that ten receivers are still on the roster, including Moss, Stallworth, Wes Welker, Reche Caldwell, Jabar Gaffney, Kelley Washington, Bam Childress, Kelvin Kight, Chris Dunlap, and C.J. Jones. (Chad Jackson and Troy Brown are still on the PUP list.)

WoodysGirl
09-01-2007, 12:16 PM
Trade Ellis for Moss :D
troublemaker :cool:

Faerluna
09-01-2007, 12:16 PM
moss needs a strong arm qb. romo is not that.

:confused: :rolleyes:

5Stars
09-01-2007, 12:17 PM
he cant single handedly beat anybody...the guy is a loser

and oh by the way, his skills have eroded badly

David


Not only that, but Moss does not play hard when he knows the play is not coming to him. He would probably not even try to take a CB or safety away from where the ball is going to go because he's to damn self-absorbed.

"I play when I wanna play..." BS...!

big dog cowboy
09-01-2007, 12:18 PM
Moss suffered a pulled hamstring several weeks ago and has seen only limited duty since then
Maybe so but he can't ride a bike like TO.

:laugh2:

5Stars
09-01-2007, 12:21 PM
One obvious team no one has mentioned.......the Redstinks. Little Danny boy probably chomping at the bit over this news.


I was thinking the same thing when I read this yesterday...

Lil Danny is probably squirming in his high-chair, little bib on, banana baby food driping from his chin, just dreaming of getting Moss if he gets released!

If Moss (who is declining) wants that BIG payday...hit the Midget ATM...lots of players with just a little time left go there! HE'S BETTER THAN A DRAFT PICK!!

:cool:

Yeagermeister
09-01-2007, 12:23 PM
I was thinking the same thing when I read this yesterday...

Lil Danny is probably squirming in his high-chair, little bib on, banana baby food driping from his chin, just dreaming of getting Moss if he gets released!

If Moss (who is declining) wants that BIG payday...hit the Midget ATM...lots of players with just a little time left go there! HE'S BETTER THAN A DRAFT PICK!!

:cool:

They'll trade a #1 pick for him.

Clove
09-01-2007, 12:26 PM
Trade Ellis for Moss :DVengeance.:D

burmafrd
09-01-2007, 12:31 PM
Ellis for Moss. Wouldn't that be karma.

Yeagermeister
09-01-2007, 12:33 PM
Ellis for Moss. Wouldn't that be karma.

Bad karma

REDVOLUTION
09-01-2007, 12:36 PM
Well now... Moss to Redskins could pose a problem for us... ie. 2 losses this year :eek:

DallasEast
09-01-2007, 12:36 PM
They'll trade a #1 pick for him.uhh... what #1 pick? :D

Yeagermeister
09-01-2007, 12:49 PM
uhh... what #1 pick? :D

I'm sure they still have their 2020 #1 :D

theebs
09-01-2007, 12:51 PM
so if he were to be cut.

Would the packers then sign him after trying to trade for him all offseason?

Seems interesting to say the least.

GimmeTheBall!
09-01-2007, 12:57 PM
Let's trade Ellis for Moss then

If he is done anyway in NE they would not mind giving him up

If Ellis is as good as he thinks he is, he'll have no trouble making the squad there:laugh2:

Moss could rehab here and we all know that after TO and Glenn Crayton we are not that deep in WR

Sound far-feteched?
Boys, when you have an owner like Jerra, anything is possible!
:laugh2:

TunaFan33
09-01-2007, 01:05 PM
Nah-Moss will be a bird when all is said and done-after all, they gambled on Owens and Stallworth in consecutive years, so why not Moss?

Sarge
09-01-2007, 02:24 PM
Let's trade Ellis for Moss :laugh2:

That's like trading in a Pinto for a Vega.

Rampage
09-01-2007, 02:33 PM
Right... if we get Moss, Brad Johnson will be starting. Book it.
moss needs a qb who can throw a good deep ball. that isn't one of romo's strength's

Bob Sacamano
09-01-2007, 02:38 PM
moss needs a qb who can throw a good deep ball. that isn't one of romo's strength's

I just LOVE agendas

Oh_Canada
09-01-2007, 02:49 PM
Moss isn't going to be cut....I think this is personal for Bellichek and he wants to prove he can turn his career around.

GlitzCowboy
09-01-2007, 03:36 PM
Oh I could seriously see Jerry making a play for him if he were to be released. With the uncertainty surrounding Terry Glenn, nobody knows what's being thought up top. 90% of the fans said TO to Dallas would never happen in basically a million years and Jerry swiftly proved yall wrong, and even more TO continues to prove you all wrong simply by fitting in here so nicely. And why the hell not? Perhaps the Irvin years and now the TO rebirth tells a tale of WR's of that stature finding a home in the glitzy city with the star on the side of it's football helmets.

The biggest problem with some of these ego-maniac receivers that are emerging is they are larger than life and thus many times larger than the team they're playing for. America's Team has an "appeal" that just can not be toppled by any one player. Michael Irvin, TO, Keyshawn Johnson, Terry Glenn...that is a large percentage of the last decade of prima-donna WRs in this league...AND ALL behaving like choir boys there time here after being nothing but constant headaches for every franchise they played for previous to coming here. Point, Randy Moss, could very well fit in here just as nicely, and nobody has any evidance to prove otherwise for none of the above had any redeaming qualities prior to coming here either, none of them. And half of them were old, "nothing left in the tank".

And like I said above, with the uncertainty with Terry, anything is possible. Plus Jerry could view it as a potiantally large coo if he could pull something like this off. And God forbid if Moss finally being granted his lifelong wish of becoming a Dallas Cowboy could actually help the guy turn over a new leaf in life, couldn't think of that possibility. Lol. Who knows.

LaTunaNostra
09-01-2007, 03:59 PM
Could Patriots wide out Randy Moss possibly not even make the teams roster? It may sound crazy, but sources are saying that the Pats are actually considering releasing Moss, even before he plays a down in New England.

Gee. what sources? if they're in New England, they're on a parallel universe, because far as i know, even the most far out talk radio hasn't speculated on this..

TunaFan33
09-01-2007, 04:05 PM
moss needs a qb who can throw a good deep ball. that isn't one of romo's strength's

That one he threw to TO in the 2nd Skins game was a beauty-but, of course, it wasn't his fault that it didn't go for 6.:bang2:

Sarge
09-01-2007, 04:09 PM
Randy Moss is one good 40 yard dash away from IR.

ThreeSportStar80
09-01-2007, 04:11 PM
I'll believe this garbage ONCE I see it...:rolleyes:

dbair1967
09-01-2007, 04:13 PM
I'll believe this garbage ONCE I see it...:rolleyes:

the only garbage is Moss himself

David

Rampage
09-01-2007, 04:14 PM
That one he threw to TO in the 2nd Skins game was a beauty-but, of course, it wasn't his fault that it didn't go for 6.:bang2:
oh no don't remind me:(

Sarge
09-01-2007, 04:24 PM
the only garbage is Moss himself

David

true.....but in his prime, he was the most dangerous WR in the game.

.....back in the day.......

as for the garbage comment..............yep.

Big Dakota
09-01-2007, 04:26 PM
Randy Moss is one good 40 yard dash away from IR.


Or a 30 yard slant.

dbair1967
09-01-2007, 04:28 PM
true.....but in his prime, he was the most dangerous WR in the game.

.....back in the day.......

as for the garbage comment..............yep.

and his prime was years ago...he's no better than average now, and with all his other baggage that makes him mediocre in my books

but tis something many on here dont grasp the concept of..."past their prime"

and we still see post after post about going after washed up has beens

David

5Stars
09-01-2007, 04:32 PM
and his prime was years ago...he's no better than average now, and with all his other baggage that makes him mediocre in my books

but tis something many on here dont grasp the concept of..."past their prime"

and we still see post after post about going after washed up has beens

David


Also, Moss just does not come across as a team player even when he was good! "I play when I want to play..."

Sarge
09-01-2007, 04:33 PM
and his prime was years ago...he's no better than average now, and with all his other baggage that makes him mediocre in my books

but tis something many on here dont grasp the concept of..."past their prime"

and we still see post after post about going after washed up has beens

David

Agreed - we do NOT need Randy Moss.

I was surprised to see Moss do as well as he did in fantasy leagues this year. Who knows, maybe he'll prove me wrong, but at this point in his career, the risk is not worth the reward all things considered (injury, age etc).

burmafrd
09-01-2007, 04:41 PM
So in other words there is about as much support for this one as for the Spears trade rumors?

Sarge
09-01-2007, 04:42 PM
So in other words there is about as much support for this one as for the Spears trade rumors?

Probably.

Rack Bauer
09-01-2007, 04:45 PM
Randy Moss is one good 40 yard dash away from IR.

Or a 30 yard slant.

:lmao2:

:bow:

Sarge
09-01-2007, 04:48 PM
We should trade Spears for Moss, then Trade Moss for D. Coakley.

CrazyCowboy
09-01-2007, 07:15 PM
I doubt it.....the Pats are a pretty savy team.

cobra
09-01-2007, 07:17 PM
I just read that Moss was in fact, NOT CUT (http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/patriots/?p=1533).

Gryphon
09-01-2007, 07:50 PM
According to a rumor posted at the Boston Herald, the Patriots considered cutting Randy Moss.

It turned out to be untrue. The idea behind the rumor was that the Patriots were concerned Moss won't be happy with his role.
Source: Boston Herald

LaTunaNostra
09-01-2007, 07:53 PM
According to a rumor posted at the Boston Herald, the Patriots considered cutting Randy Moss.

It turned out to be untrue. The idea behind the rumor was that the Patriots were concerned Moss won't be happy with his role.
Source: Boston Herald

That's interesting, Gryph.

But it figures if a rumour of that silliness level was started, it would be from the Herald.

CaptainQuint
09-01-2007, 07:58 PM
...one of the few guys in the league who can single handedly beat a team.
Reggie Bush was my 1st thought for your definition.

Big Dakota
09-02-2007, 01:01 AM
That's interesting, Gryph.




But it figures if a rumour of that silliness level was started, it would be from the Herald.





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zrinkill
09-06-2007, 07:14 PM
I wonder if Terry Glenn's 2 week - year off injury will start these trade rumors again?