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trickblue
09-01-2007, 11:16 PM
Saw it on HBO again tonight...
as many times as I've seen it... the damn thing gets to me every time...
Kevin Costner... go to Hell.. :D
StanleySpadowski
09-01-2007, 11:24 PM
I'm going to beat you with this crowbar until you leave.
trickblue
09-01-2007, 11:33 PM
I'm going to beat you with this crowbar until you leave.
I knew even you had a soft spot Stanley... :D
StanleySpadowski
09-01-2007, 11:40 PM
Peace, love, dope.....now get the **** out of here.
BrAinPaiNt
09-01-2007, 11:41 PM
I usually like sports movies but for whatever reason I just was never too keen on that movie.
I don't think it is a bad movie at all, just never got me for some reason.
blindzebra
09-02-2007, 12:38 AM
I usually like sports movies but for whatever reason I just was never too keen on that movie.
I don't think it is a bad movie at all, just never got me for some reason.
It's not a sports movie.
It's about regrets and getting a second chance, by believing that you can make it happen.
Mavs Man
09-02-2007, 01:04 AM
This is one movie that just gets better each time you watch it.
Faerluna
09-02-2007, 07:06 AM
Love that movie! :D
BrAinPaiNt
09-02-2007, 09:56 AM
It's not a sports movie.
It's about regrets and getting a second chance, by believing that you can make it happen.
anything that deals with hockey, football, baseball, basketball or other sports...is a sports movie to me.
I realize they are not really about the sport but about other things but I classify them as sports movies.:cool:
Yeagermeister
09-02-2007, 10:39 AM
Bull Durham is better :D
needforspeed
09-02-2007, 03:50 PM
Who's been to the spot where they filmed "Field of Dreams"?
burmafrd
09-02-2007, 08:27 PM
I have been there- it was about 6 years ago. I don't know if they still maintain it. Looked real interesting- you have to go there during the summer so that the corn is just like the Movie.
I have only liked Costner in 3 movies: THis one, Untouchables and For Love of the Game. Dancing with Wolves- meh. And pretty much all the rest of them stink as far as I am concerned.
Faerluna
09-02-2007, 08:42 PM
I loved Dances With Wolves, too.
Blake
09-02-2007, 08:58 PM
Angels in the Outfield is better.
needforspeed
09-02-2007, 09:37 PM
Angels in the Outfield is better.
....if you're 5 years old.
I grew up in a baseball family.
I had catches with my dad all the time. It was just something special to do as a kid. I now over the years routinely have catches with my sons.
It's the norm for me or my sons to say "lets have a catch"
When his old man comes back in the movie and they have that catch I cry like a baby. It's a tradition that might not all have but it's a killer moment to any father/son that had that tradition.
To me it's a very inspirational movie.
trickblue
09-02-2007, 09:56 PM
I grew up in a baseball family.
I had catches with my dad all the time. It was just something special to do as a kid. I now over the years routinely have catches with my sons.
It's the norm for me or my sons to say "lets have a catch"
When his old man comes back in the movie and they have that catch I cry like a baby. It's a tradition that might not all have but it's a killer moment to any father/son that had that tradition.
To me it's a very inspirational movie.
That's the way I am...
It's not a film about correcting your past... it's a film about spending time with your dad...
blindzebra
09-02-2007, 11:10 PM
That's the way I am...
It's not a film about correcting your past... it's a film about spending time with your dad...
Really...must have been filler for them to talk about how he refused to have a catch with his dad and told him Shoeless Joe was a cheater...Must have imagined him telling Terry Mann he regretted it?
That Terry got another chance to write about baseball after lying to Ray about the article Ray found about baseball, was just so he could joke about him using his finger for a gun?
That whole Doc coming back because he never got to bat in the majors and how he wondered how his life would be different had he not given up baseball must have been just to make the movie longer before dad took off the catcher's mask?
The movie was about fixing things from the past...you know building a field for the banned Black Sox to play again.;)
Really...must have been filler for them to talk about how he refused to have a catch with his dad and told him Shoeless Joe was a cheater...Must have imagined him telling Terry Mann he regretted it?
That Terry got another chance to write about baseball after lying to Ray about the article Ray found about baseball, was just so he could joke about him using his finger for a gun?
That whole Doc coming back because he never got to bat in the majors and how he wondered how his life would be different had he not given up baseball must have been just to make the movie longer before dad took off the catcher's mask?
The movie was about fixing things from the past...you know building a field for the banned Black Sox to play again.;)
The human aspect of a father having a catch with his son was lost on you.
Doomsday
09-02-2007, 11:35 PM
One of those movies that I dont go out of my way to watch, even though I own the DVD, but once I start watching it I cant stop. All around great movie!
blindzebra
09-03-2007, 01:08 AM
The human aspect of a father having a catch with his son was lost on you.
The movie wasn't about literally having a catch with his dad...it's symbolic as part of the baseball metaphor.
The movie is about him regretting losing touch with his father...leaving him angry...him never meeting his daughter in-law or grand daughter...him never saying he was sorry that it happened before his father died.
The field is (in Ray's mind) being built to bring back his dad's favorite player Shoeless Joe...in reality he built it so he could bring his dad back to make up for all the things he lost a long time ago because he was too stubborn to pick up a phone or make a trip.
The movie ends with them playing catch because that takes them back to the relationship they had before he screwed things up and had years of regret.
Doomsday
09-03-2007, 10:00 AM
The movie wasn't about literally having a catch with his dad...it's symbolic as part of the baseball metaphor.
The movie is about him regretting losing touch with his father...leaving him angry...him never meeting his daughter in-law or grand daughter...him never saying he was sorry that it happened before his father died.
The field is (in Ray's mind) being built to bring back his dad's favorite player Shoeless Joe...in reality he built it so he could bring his dad back to make up for all the things he lost a long time ago because he was too stubborn to pick up a phone or make a trip.
The movie ends with them playing catch because that takes them back to the relationship they had before he screwed things up and had years of regret.
Very well said!
I was just speaking about one small scene, a scene that I thought was very powerfull. The movie had a much bigger storyline agreed.
trickblue
09-03-2007, 11:00 AM
Really...must have been filler for them to talk about how he refused to have a catch with his dad and told him Shoeless Joe was a cheater...Must have imagined him telling Terry Mann he regretted it?
That Terry got another chance to write about baseball after lying to Ray about the article Ray found about baseball, was just so he could joke about him using his finger for a gun?
That whole Doc coming back because he never got to bat in the majors and how he wondered how his life would be different had he not given up baseball must have been just to make the movie longer before dad took off the catcher's mask?
The movie was about fixing things from the past...you know building a field for the banned Black Sox to play again.;)
Believe me... I am fully aware of the meaning of the movie...
But thanks... ;)
Crown Royal
09-03-2007, 11:51 AM
I had seen it as a kid and it never did anything, but as an adult it makes me blubber.
burmafrd
09-03-2007, 11:57 AM
ITs such a multi layered movie. Its about dreams and regrets and second chances and baseball and family. That is why it is remembered so fondly by so many.
peplaw06
09-03-2007, 02:43 PM
It's about farmers and pain-in-the-***-brothers-in-law-who-won't-lend-you-money-and-instead-try-to-foreclose-on-you
I love this movie to death for many reasons.
One of the most significant to me is its depiction of supernatural guidance, the doubts, the faith & cost to follow it, and the payout if you do.
And while I understand that was never the intent of that movie I find it interesting that it depicts that so powerfully.
One of my favorite scenes in the movie (though its ridiculous to try to single one out as there are so many great ones) is when Costner has built the field as he felt he was instructed, and then he is left to simply wait...
in the middle of the night, during the wintertime party as its covered with snow etc. Very powerful.
StanleySpadowski
09-04-2007, 04:07 PM
You're all incorrect about the meaning of the film....
It's about how a person doesn't recognize the most significant moments in one's life as they occur. The defining scene in the film is when Archie "Moonlight" Graham makes the conscious decision to cross the line both literally and figuratively, becoming Dr. Graham, realizing that he can never play ball as his youthful self again.
joseephuss
09-04-2007, 04:16 PM
I did not like it. I didn't hate it, but I did not understand why some made pilgrimages to the field.
I also did not like Jerry Maguire. Did nothing for me.
I have a hard time liking sports movies especially football movies. The action is usually terrible and so unrealistic. Like in Remember the Titans. They had guys running in slow motion, but filmed it live speed. Just silly. It was a nice story, but even that was changed to make it more hollywood.
Oliver Stone came somewhat close to getting a more realistic game action with the way he filmed Any Given Sunday with cameras on the players, but as is typical with all of his movies he over did it. Plus the story line and the rest of the film sucked.
ABQCOWBOY
09-04-2007, 04:18 PM
You're all incorrect about the meaning of the film....
It's about how a person doesn't recognize the most significant moments in one's life as they occur. The defining scene in the film is when Archie "Moonlight" Graham makes the conscious decision to cross the line both literally and figuratively, becoming Dr. Graham, realizing that he can never play ball as his youthful self again.
"Hey Rookie, you were good."
Burt Lancaster smiles knowingly, walks into the cornfield and disappears.
That's a great scene.
blindzebra
09-04-2007, 04:39 PM
You're all incorrect about the meaning of the film....
It's about how a person doesn't recognize the most significant moments in one's life as they occur. The defining scene in the film is when Archie "Moonlight" Graham makes the conscious decision to cross the line both literally and figuratively, becoming Dr. Graham, realizing that he can never play ball as his youthful self again.
Not entirely correct.
That scene is because even though he regrets not having his shot at baseball, his impact on the world, and what he was meant to do, was to be Dr. Graham all along.
The tragedy wasn't him not playing baseball, it would have been him not becoming a doctor...now, your theory fits if he crosses the line because he realizes being a doctor was his significant moment...saving the girl was more important than him getting his at bat.;)
Great character that Moonlight Graham.
When Ray visits him in Minnesota and offers him a chance to return to Iowa and chase his dream from long ago, in his old age Doc understands that he was meant to be a doctor more than a ballplayer and politely declines.
Then when faced with that decision yet again as young Archie at the Field of Dreams he again turns his back on baseball for his calling as a doctor.
Great, great character.
The whole movie seems eerily real to me.
Great character that Moonlight Graham.
When Ray visits him in Minnesota and offers him a chance to return to Iowa and chase his dream from long ago, in his old age Doc understands that he was meant to be a doctor more than a ballplayer and politely declines.
Then when faced with that decision yet again as young Archie at the Field of Dreams he again turns his back on baseball for his calling as a doctor.
Great, great character.
The whole movie seems eerily real to me.
Funny you mention that, I had that exact same feeling watching it in the movie theatre the first time.
StanleySpadowski
09-04-2007, 06:21 PM
Not entirely correct.
That scene is because even though he regrets not having his shot at baseball, his impact on the world, and what he was meant to do, was to be Dr. Graham all along.
The tragedy wasn't him not playing baseball, it would have been him not becoming a doctor...now, your theory fits if he crosses the line because he realizes being a doctor was his significant moment...saving the girl was more important than him getting his at bat.;)
I do remember the conversation that occurred in Dr. Graham's office.
The point of crossing the line was that he was making the first decision in the whole movie that had a known outcome without any outside influences.
John McGraw not playing Graham made that decision for him at the time. It was stated more than once that if he had gotten a hit he would have never become a doctor.
A side issue then becomes how the significant moments are sometimes seemingly out of our control.
ABQCOWBOY
09-05-2007, 11:36 AM
I do remember the conversation that occurred in Dr. Graham's office.
The point of crossing the line was that he was making the first decision in the whole movie that had a known outcome without any outside influences.
John McGraw not playing Graham made that decision for him at the time. It was stated more than once that if he had gotten a hit he would have never become a doctor.
A side issue then becomes how the significant moments are sometimes seemingly out of our control.
I agree with this. For example, Dish or Cable? Humm....... Dish, Cable, Dish, Cable. Suddenly, I found that only Dish came with NFL package and they were going to cripple me of it on the billing. No control at all in one of the biggest moments of my Cowboy life.
:D
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