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REDVOLUTION
09-14-2007, 03:49 PM
He comes in heavy handed and with a strong desire to clean up the league.

Everyone pays for their wrong doings whether there is a precedent or not..... errrr....... except for Pats Head Coach.

This will not stand.

TunaFan33
09-14-2007, 03:51 PM
He comes in heavy handed and with a strong desire to clean up the league.

Everyone pays for their wrong doings whether there is a precedent or not..... errrr....... except for Pats Head Coach.

This will not stand.

I have a gut feeling that the reason why Goodell stuck his head in the sand is b/c there may have been PLENTY of cheating incidents by MANY other teams-if they were exposed, it would damage the image of the NFL.

Really-I have no doubt in my mind that that Hawks/Pitt game was *fixed*-what if the evidence is on Goodell's desk, and he decides to expose it?

dogunwo
09-14-2007, 03:55 PM
I have a gut feeling that the reason why Goodell stuck his head in the sand is b/c there may have been PLENTY of cheating incidents by MANY other teams-if they were exposed, it would damage the image of the NFL.

Really-I have no doubt in my mind that that Hawks/Pitt game was *fixed*-what if the evidence is on Goodell's desk, and he decides to expose it?
What I dont get is if there is so much cheating going on in this manner, why have absolutely NO REPORTS whatsoever on any other team come out? :rolleyes:

Maybe there is something going on with another team, but I think it is WAY overstated.

Doomsday101
09-14-2007, 03:56 PM
I have a gut feeling that the reason why Goodell stuck his head in the sand is b/c there may have been PLENTY of cheating incidents by MANY other teams-if they were exposed, it would damage the image of the NFL.

Really-I have no doubt in my mind that that Hawks/Pitt game was *fixed*-what if the evidence is on Goodell's desk, and he decides to expose it?

I don't agree that the game was fixed, I will agree that there was a couple of bad calls in the game but I don't think for a second that or any other NFL game has been fixed.

TunaFan33
09-14-2007, 03:58 PM
What I dont get is if there is so much cheating going on in this manner, why have absolutely NO REPORTS whatsoever on any other team come out? :rolleyes:

Maybe there is something going on with another team, but I think it is WAY overstated.

Good point, but assuming the Pats were "cheating" all these years, why didn't ANYBODY know about it until last week? One would have thought it would have come to light MUCH sooner.

REDVOLUTION
09-14-2007, 04:02 PM
I have a gut feeling that the reason why Goodell stuck his head in the sand is b/c there may have been PLENTY of cheating incidents by MANY other teams-if they were exposed, it would damage the image of the NFL.

Really-I have no doubt in my mind that that Hawks/Pitt game was *fixed*-what if the evidence is on Goodell's desk, and he decides to expose it?

I dont think so. Bullicheat is being accused of having video camera's on opposing sidelines during a game when it not allowed at all during a game. You believe EVERY or alot of teams are doing this. I dont believe so.




What I dont get is if there is so much cheating going on in this manner, why have absolutely NO REPORTS whatsoever on any other team come out? :rolleyes:

Maybe there is something going on with another team, but I think it is WAY overstated.

Agreed.




I don't agree that the game was fixed, I will agree that there was a couple of bad calls in the game but I don't think for a second that or any other NFL game has been fixed.

I dont think it was fixed... but its damn close.





Good point, but assuming the Pats were "cheating" all these years, why didn't ANYBODY know about it until last week? One would have thought it would have come to light MUCH sooner.

Its been talked about for years now... here and there... now that a few of the birds have left the nest... the dirt hits the fan

Q_the_man
09-14-2007, 08:13 PM
John Clayton said that cheating probably goes on alot, then said he knows of alot of teams that cheat, maybe he was talking to fast or whatever, but the commish needs to call old John up and tell him to say what teams are cheating since he knows......

Reporters always talk outside of there head once a story breaks, they all know everything once everything is put out in the open

Aikbach
09-14-2007, 08:47 PM
If the Dallas Cowboys were cheating I think it would have broken headlines years ago, Dallas is under too much scrutiny to ever blatantly or knowingly fudge the rules much less arrogantly defy them as New England did.

The lovefest has turned sour, the country outside of the Boston area is mostly sick of the Pats and this provided that ever lingering feeling that something about their Super Bowls hadn't added up with a genuine "AH HA! I knew it!" that so many suspected in their gut.

An asterix in the record books and a Nixonian shame to follow Bellicheck and Tom "Spirow Agnew" Brady until their careers are relegated to memory, but regretably the legacy of that memory is in grave doubt.

kingwhicker
09-14-2007, 09:01 PM
SB XL WAS fixed. So was XIII. And X was mighty fishy too.

Big Dakota
09-14-2007, 09:22 PM
He comes in heavy handed and with a strong desire to clean up the league.

Everyone pays for their wrong doings whether there is a precedent or not..... errrr....... except for Pats Head Coach.

This will not stand.



:lmao2:

I think you should start a grassroots "replace Goodell" movement....errrrrr...you already have.

Good luck with that kid.

REDVOLUTION
09-14-2007, 09:26 PM
:lmao2:

I think you should start a grassroots "replace Goodell" movement....errrrrr...you already have.

Good luck with that kid.

Nah.. its not a replace all. Looking for consistency. I think he is the right guy for the job.

He muffed it though. TOO much for Wade that opened the door for his NOT ENOUGH for Bullicheat.

Big Dakota
09-14-2007, 09:32 PM
Nah.. its not a replace all. Looking for consistency. I think he is the right guy for the job.

He muffed it though. TOO much for Wade that opened the door for his NOT ENOUGH for Bullicheat.


I wouldn't have minded a 5-6 game suspension, but i'm smart enough to know how things work. That's why i guessed a #1 draft pick, 1 million fine and 1 game. I came up long on the cash and no suspnsion, but i was in the ballpark.

As far as Wade goes, maybe he should have gone toa doctor instead of buying from a dealer?

TunaFan33
09-14-2007, 09:32 PM
SB XL WAS fixed. So was XIII. And X was mighty fishy too.

Nah-I still get nightmares over Jackie Smith's lack of concentration in XIII-I really felt bad for him.

nake
09-14-2007, 09:35 PM
He doesn't look like a dictator to me - more like a boot licking lackey.

Big Dakota
09-14-2007, 09:40 PM
He doesn't look like a dictator to me - more like a boot licking lackey.


Hey, Mr.R.L. White, welcome to the board.:laugh2:

Nors
09-14-2007, 09:44 PM
I wouldn't have minded a 5-6 game suspension, but i'm smart enough to know how things work. That's why i guessed a #1 draft pick, 1 million fine and 1 game. I came up long on the cash and no suspnsion, but i was in the ballpark.

As far as Wade goes, maybe he should have gone toa doctor instead of buying from a dealer?


Or bought Viagra? Whats up with HGH for impotence? NFL might reasonably question why coaches are buying that stuff and where it went. And yes, why did he not go to a legit doctor?

Wade is not completely clean here, he failed a League drug policy.

Big Dakota
09-14-2007, 09:49 PM
Or bought Viagra? Whats up with HGH for impotence? NFL might reasonably question why coaches are buying that stuff and where it went. And yes, why did he not go to a legit doctor?

Wade is not completely clean here, he failed a League drug policy.
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Big Dakota
09-14-2007, 09:57 PM
Or bought Viagra? Whats up with HGH for impotence? NFL might reasonably question why coaches are buying that stuff and where it went. And yes, why did he not go to a legit doctor?

Wade is not completely clean here, he failed a League drug policy.


My take? Some people are up in arms because it hurt the Cowboys, even though i can't see the loss of Wade hurting us. Then some are still mad about the thug players being raked over the coals. Lots of lawyers and NAACP members i guess. Then there is the 3 in 4 years trophy envy many Cowboys fans have for the Pats. Lastly there is the fact Belicheat is a loser ahole and now a known cheat. Add it all up and not a whole lot of Boys fans agree wth the commish, but they'll have you think none of the above applies.

jimmy40
09-14-2007, 10:54 PM
Then there is the 3 in 4 years trophy envy many Cowboys fans have for the Pats. There's the problem, reason 10,012 why their 3 out of 4 doesn't really count and don't forget some people have called them America's Team. Oh the horror, kick em out of the league.

REDVOLUTION
09-14-2007, 11:19 PM
I wouldn't have minded a 5-6 game suspension, but i'm smart enough to know how things work. That's why i guessed a #1 draft pick, 1 million fine and 1 game. I came up long on the cash and no suspnsion, but i was in the ballpark.

As far as Wade goes, maybe he should have gone toa doctor instead of buying from a dealer?



Contratulations! :rolleyes:
So you figured out that only certain coaches are held to a higher standard... well good for you.

Here are some cookies
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Big Dakota
09-14-2007, 11:38 PM
Contratulations! :rolleyes:
So you figured out that only certain coaches are held to a higher standard... well good for you.

Here are some cookies
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AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH Was a matta, da man been keepin ya down?

Heisenberg
09-14-2007, 11:52 PM
Meh. I think Goodell is doing a hell of a job since he's been commissioner. Just because you don't agree completely with the punishments doesn't mean he isn't at least getting things going in the right direction.

Say what you will about Wade Wilson, but he did break the rules. He didn't make a smart decision and he was punished for it. Say what you will about the Patriots, but they broke the rules and were punished for it. Losing a 1st rounder is huge. I don't care how much talent you have. That 1st round pick could be the next star of their defense or offense. You have no way of knowing.

Are these punishments exactly the ones I would have given out were I commissioner? Probably not, but to say that somehow he's bias in some way or that it's "unfair"? I don't agree.

Hostile
09-14-2007, 11:54 PM
I like Goodell. A lot in fact. No nonsense.

He went completely wussy on this penalty for the Patriots and in my mind it is out of line with the message he has preached. Completely.

Wade Wilson was fined 1/3 of his salary and suspended 5 games for something that has no bearing on the integrity of the game.

Bill Belicheat was fined 1/10 of his salary and no suspension despite the fact what he did does have a bearing on the integrity of the game.

It simply doesn't add up to me at all. A star coach got treated differently than a non star. Sends a bad message IMO.

Big Dakota
09-14-2007, 11:58 PM
Meh. I think Goodell is doing a hell of a job since he's been commissioner. Just because you don't agree completely with the punishments doesn't mean he isn't at least getting things going in the right direction.

Say what you will about Wade Wilson, but he did break the rules. He didn't make a smart decision and he was punished for it. Say what you will about the Patriots, but they broke the rules and were punished for it. Losing a 1st rounder is huge. I don't care how much talent you have. That 1st round pick could be the next star of their defense or offense. You have no way of knowing.

Are these punishments exactly the ones I would have given out were I commissioner? Probably not, but to say that somehow he's bias in some way or that it's "unfair"? I don't agree.



Congrats on a great post!!;)

Most of these people have ulterior motives that include everything from envy to race and some inbetween.

REDVOLUTION
09-15-2007, 12:06 AM
Congrats on a great post!!;)

Most of these people have ulterior motives that include everything from envy to race and some inbetween.


Nice edit BIG D...! :lmao:

Big Dakota
09-15-2007, 12:12 AM
Nice edit BIG D...! :lmao:


I felt it was unfair, because some are in the envy area and i have to admit i didn't want them to win 3 in 4 but i can live with it. Guess what catagory you fall under:lmao2:

REDVOLUTION
09-15-2007, 12:16 AM
I felt it was unfair, because some are in the envy area and i have to admit i didn't want them to win 3 in 4 but i can live with it. Guess what catagory you fall under:lmao2:


So in that sentence you used name calling and a few categories... THEN YOU fell into one of the catEgories..... nice move....

Baig a hogin :eek:

Big Dakota
09-15-2007, 12:17 AM
So in that sentence you used name calling and a few categories... THEN YOU fell into one of the catEgories..... nice move....

Baig a hogin :eek:



I got over it, some didn't. Now go to Mcdonalds and get a big old greasy meal, you'll feel better:lmao2:

REDVOLUTION
09-15-2007, 12:25 AM
Jimmy, what did you think of Goodall's decision?

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