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DallasDW00ds0n
09-17-2007, 10:58 PM
Doesnt it seem as if both the Redskins and Eagles are missing something?

both look beatable.

TunaFan33
09-17-2007, 10:59 PM
Doesnt it seem as if both the Redskins and Eagles are missing something?

both look beatable.

Funny how everyone on this board said we looked AWEFUL against the Fins-now we're saying EVERYONE who won stinks??:confused:

FuzzyLumpkins
09-17-2007, 11:00 PM
Its called bad QB play.

Neither are accurate and McNabb just doesnt have the burst to get thiose first downs with his legs on third and long anymore.

JC is still raw and misses throws as well.


it really makes me appreciate how accurate Romo was.

BlueStar22
09-17-2007, 11:01 PM
Don't know about Washington, but i'm willing to bet that Philly will be right there at the end. They were left for dead last year when McNabb went down still won the division. Until we beat them, in my mind, they are still a threat, and still the team to beat in the East.

DallasDW00ds0n
09-17-2007, 11:01 PM
aside from the Redskins D, there was nothing to even talk about in that game.

McNabb and JC were shaky to say the least.

parchy
09-17-2007, 11:02 PM
Funny how everyone on this board said we looked AWEFUL against the Fins-now we're saying EVERYONE who won stinks??:confused:

Who the hell said we looked awful against the Fins? We put up 37 points!

Avery
09-17-2007, 11:02 PM
Regardless of how it looked, the Skins pulled it out on the road - that's never easy.

The QB'ing tonight was a bit erratic both ways.

FuzzyLumpkins
09-17-2007, 11:03 PM
Don't know about Washington, but i'm willing to bet that Philly will be right there at the end. They were left for dead last year when McNabb went down still won the division.

That because Garcia is a better QB then McNabb. What made McNabb successful was being able to buy time and throw deep so his receivers could adjust to his bad throws or take off and run for first downs on 3rd and long.

If you ask him to stay in the pocket and make consistent throws on short and intermediate routes hes awful.

Maxmadden
09-17-2007, 11:03 PM
Yeah, but they don't have Garcia to save them this year.

parchy
09-17-2007, 11:03 PM
Regardless of how it looked, the Skins pulled it out on the road - that's never easy.

The QB'ing tonight was a bit erratic both ways.

We are going to beat the ever-loving tar out of the Redskins if they play like that.

theebs
09-17-2007, 11:04 PM
I didnt see that at all. Poor qb play, yes absolutely. Ron Jaworski making excuses for mcnabb was just plain embarrassing and unprofessional.

Having said that, I think that is the exact type game the redskins want to play. They are a power team and they rely on beating teams up and then finishing them off late.

Teams that cant handle that power up front are going to get run right off the damn field......and when I say that I mean, Detroit and arizona in a few weeks.

I am very worried, as I have been since may about the redskins. Fast starts lead to confidence, confidence leads to better play and better focus which leads to wins.

I think we need some help up front defensively and a healthy newman and ellis to hang with them right now.

If mcnabb were better tonight they would have won the game, but that doesnt mean squat.

Clove
09-17-2007, 11:04 PM
1.McNabb is not accurate, never has been, and has absolutely no receivers.

2.Stinks have a grind it out type offense, with a couple of big play receivers.

3.Romo is the key to beating both these teams. He's magical, and he's better than both those QB's put together.

DallasDW00ds0n
09-17-2007, 11:05 PM
and the Philly WR's are definitely not going to help McNabb.

Brown is their #1 and has what? 2 catches on the year?

Curtis doesnt seem to be the guy they thought he was gonna be, and Avant and Baskett are mediocre at best.

viman96
09-17-2007, 11:05 PM
McNabb has lost 6 of the last 7 starts!

CowboyWay
09-17-2007, 11:06 PM
We'll put 30 on either one of these teams. And both these teams need 2 games to score 30 points.

DallasDW00ds0n
09-17-2007, 11:07 PM
If Newman comes back healthy, I bet we could beat both teams.

BlueStar22
09-17-2007, 11:07 PM
and the Philly WR's are definitely not going to help McNabb.

Brown is their #1 and has what? 2 catches on the year?

Curtis doesnt seem to be the guy they thought he was gonna be, and Avant and Baskett are mediocre at best.
it's because Curtis is a slot receiver and Hank Baskett, only our secondary could make him look like a player.

Clove
09-17-2007, 11:07 PM
The only thing I like about our chances is that we have a tougher schedule before getting to the stinks. If we manage to dominate some of those good teams, and somehow pull out a victory against the New Cheaters, look out!

dfense
09-17-2007, 11:08 PM
Yes they do. The Eagles have real problems at receiver. The blue print is out after only two games, press coverage. I took Reggie Brown in my fantasy league figuring this is a breakout year. I had trouble locating him tonight. The Eagle receivers couldn't get open until they went to the spread offense. If Westbrook goes down, that team is done.

DallasDW00ds0n
09-17-2007, 11:08 PM
it's because Curtis is a slot receiver and Hank Baskett, only our secondary could make him look like a player.

lol Baskett on Watkins... ick!

Danny White
09-17-2007, 11:09 PM
This was not a good game or outcome.

It's obvious the game has passed Philly/Mcnabb by.

The Redsk*ns look competent enough to win 8+ games now and possibly challenge for a playoff spot. :puke:

It's going to be an unbearable football season here in the Nation's Capital.

DallasDW00ds0n
09-17-2007, 11:10 PM
i think we got the NFCE in the palms of our hands...

dfense
09-17-2007, 11:11 PM
1.McNabb is not accurate, never has been, and has absolutely no receivers.

2.Stinks have a grind it out type offense, with a couple of big play receivers.

3.Romo is the key to beating both these teams. He's magical, and he's better than both those QB's put together. Never has been accurate? :confused: If I recall, before some of his injuries, his QB rating was in the 100's

Big Dakota
09-17-2007, 11:14 PM
Obviously 2 teams are in trouble in the east. The wheels will come off in NY and it looks like Philly could be in trouble. McNabb is obviously still very gimpy and they sill have weak WRs. The Giants will jump ship on their coach before long. The Skins could gain confidence, as theebs says, but with their young QB they are ne real threat to win the NFC title and if we have to be scared of them,we aren't NFC champion contenders anyway.

Avery
09-17-2007, 11:14 PM
We are going to beat the ever-loving tar out of the Redskins if they play like that.

That's assuming that our offense plays like it has.

Can't wait until we play them - hopefully we don't lose or another remote will be smashed and dumped in the trash can.

trickblue
09-17-2007, 11:17 PM
Its called bad QB play.

Neither are accurate and McNabb just doesnt have the burst to get thiose first downs with his legs on third and long anymore.

JC is still raw and misses throws as well.


it really makes me appreciate how accurate Romo was.

That's the way I saw it too...

Both QB's looked terrible and I will add in both WR corps. Washington's looked better than Philly's, but neither were anything to write home about tonight...

REDVOLUTION
09-18-2007, 12:48 AM
We'll put 30 on either one of these teams. And both these teams need 2 games to score 30 points.


After 2 games

Redskins team has 3 TD's
Marion Barber has 3 TD's :laugh2:

bbgun
09-18-2007, 12:51 AM
How can a team expect to survive on a long-term basis without both starting tackles? One, maybe, but not both. They can't have that kind of depth.

CanadianCowboysFan
09-18-2007, 12:53 AM
That's assuming that our offense plays like it has.

Can't wait until we play them - hopefully we don't lose or another remote will be smashed and dumped in the trash can.

We had the Redskins beaten last year but the FG was blocked and there was the bs call on Taylor.

BigDFan5
09-18-2007, 12:54 AM
How can a team expect to survive on a long-term basis without both starting tackles? One, maybe, but not both. They can't have that kind of depth.

Their LT Samuels is back isn't he?

They lost their RG and RT


But having backups making up the entire right side of the line can not be a good situation

bbgun
09-18-2007, 12:57 AM
Their LT Samuels is back isn't he?

They lost their RG and RT


But having backups making up the entire right side of the line can not be a good situation

Someone on another board said Samuels. They were wrong. Either way, 2/5 of their line is gone.

AtlCB
09-18-2007, 12:59 AM
Their LT Samuels is back isn't he?

They lost their RG and RT


But having backups making up the entire right side of the line can not be a good situation

Jason Fabini is now starting for them. :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

sk0aL
09-18-2007, 01:06 AM
I'm not worried in the slightest.

Granted, every game between NFCE teams is always a fight, but we're head and shoulders above every other team in our division.

BigDFan5
09-18-2007, 01:14 AM
Someone on another board said Samuels. They were wrong. Either way, 2/5 of their line is gone.

Agreed it will hurt them badly, losing Samuels would flat out end their season

TexasReferee
09-18-2007, 01:18 AM
Based on the Redskins schedule they could concievably be 6-0 before playing the Patriots on October 28. They play the Giants at home, Lions at home, Packers on the road and Cardinals at home. Not a lot of fire power in those opponents. With us playing the Bears on the road, I don't really want to be chasing the Deadskins for 4 weeks. Any thoughts???

TunaFan33
09-18-2007, 01:23 AM
I'm sure Gibbs will take it one game at a time. If I had to take a guess...

Giants - W
Lions - W
@Packers - L
Cards - W

Clove
09-18-2007, 05:06 AM
Let's just see how things materalize over the next few weeks, and after 4 games or so, we should definitely get an idea as to what team should be able to do what against each other.

But judging from recent history, these teams always play close games. (okay, most of the time)

30yrheel
09-18-2007, 06:32 AM
what a favorable schedule, when do they play away?

Faerluna
09-18-2007, 07:05 AM
Jason Fabini is now false starting for them. :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:


Fixed.

Tex
09-18-2007, 09:37 AM
Never has been accurate? :confused: If I recall, before some of his injuries, his QB rating was in the 100's

The only year he was anywhere near that high was the year he had T.O. His quarterback rating, TD's and completion percentage were WELL above his career averages FOR THAT one year.

Tex

wileedog
09-18-2007, 09:48 AM
That because Garcia is a better QB then McNabb. What made McNabb successful was being able to buy time and throw deep so his receivers could adjust to his bad throws or take off and run for first downs on 3rd and long.

If you ask him to stay in the pocket and make consistent throws on short and intermediate routes hes awful.


To be fair, McNabb is in the wrong system.

He would still be a very strong QB if he was in Oaklands offense, whereas Garcia would be terrible in it.

How Philly doesn't see that is beyond me.

REDVOLUTION
09-18-2007, 09:49 AM
Based on the Redskins schedule they could concievably be 6-0 before playing the Patriots on October 28. They play the Giants at home, Lions at home, Packers on the road and Cardinals at home. Not a lot of fire power in those opponents. With us playing the Bears on the road, I don't really want to be chasing the Deadskins for 4 weeks. Any thoughts???


Packers and Lions will probably beat the Skins. "not much firepower"... oh yeah.... the Skins are lighting people up themselves LOL

DallasDW00ds0n
09-18-2007, 09:54 AM
im so sick of hearing how well JC played the first two weeks, but if Romo's QB rating slips under an 80 for one game, we hear hes overrated, etc.

JC is terrible and not even near Romo's level at this point.

Roy Williams has just as many catches as JC has TD's so far, JC is a bum... and he has a 66 QB rating, so can they get off his jock??

fortdick
09-18-2007, 10:13 AM
Say what you will about the Redskins, their secondary looks very good. Their running game is very good. Campbell can't hit his butt with both hands, however.

Iggles defense may not be that good, by what I saw last might, but the Redskins play that ol' style ball control game. With all the first round picks they have in the secondary, they could shut down our passing game. We will have to out gainthem on the ground, and unfortunately, I think the Skins are very good in that area.

They are a surprise, for sure.

Doomsday101
09-18-2007, 10:16 AM
Say what you will about the Redskins, their secondary looks very good. Their running game is very good. Campbell can't hit his butt with both hands, however.

Iggles defense may not be that good, by what I saw last might, but the Redskins play that ol' style ball control game. With all the first round picks they have in the secondary, they could shut down our passing game. We will have to out gainthem on the ground, and unfortunately, I think the Skins are very good in that area.

They are a surprise, for sure.

I think Dallas will be able to pass on them. I saw guys open lastnight and McNabb just over threw them or threw behind them. I respect the skins secondary but they can be thrown on and I'm sure Dallas will. All in all I was not overly impressed with either team.

firehawk350
09-18-2007, 10:19 AM
We'll put 30 on either one of these teams. And both these teams need 2 games to score 30 points.
Just a thought dude, but campbell can normally toss the deep ball and we had Moss wide open to the endzone which would have put the skins at 27. he missed the pass, but if the opportunity arises again, I doubt he'll miss it a second time. Just my opinion though.

DallasDW00ds0n
09-18-2007, 10:23 AM
I think Dallas will be able to pass on them. I saw guys open lastnight and McNabb just over threw them or threw behind them. I respect the skins secondary but they can be thrown on and I'm sure Dallas will. All in all I was not overly impressed with either team.
plus our WR's are more talented than Phillys and can get open...

Doomsday101
09-18-2007, 10:27 AM
plus our WR's are more talented than Phillys and can get open...

And our QB is more talented. Dallas has the offensive weapons I think to give any team a hard time.

fortdick
09-18-2007, 10:51 AM
Just a thought dude, but campbell can normally toss the deep ball and we had Moss wide open to the endzone which would have put the skins at 27. he missed the pass, but if the opportunity arises again, I doubt he'll miss it a second time. Just my opinion though.

Did you see the pass, Dude? He over threw him by 15 yards! Campbell has a strong arm, sure, but if he has no accuracy then what good is he? He kinda reminds me of Quincy Carter, but without the wheels.

AtlCB
09-18-2007, 10:59 AM
I'm sure Gibbs will take it one game at a time. If I had to take a guess...

Giants - W
Lions - W
@Packers - L
Cards - W
I'm not sure I'd pick the Skins to beat the Giants. The Redskins will have a hard time blocking Strahan with Jansen and Thomas out. The key will be how well Campbell can hit Moss if he has time and doesn't overthrow him. The Giants played us well in Dallas. They aren't that bad of a team.

Yakuza Rich
09-18-2007, 11:04 AM
Doesnt it seem as if both the Redskins and Eagles are missing something?

both look beatable.

The entire NFC, including the Cowboys, looks very beatable at this moment. Philly has a problem in that their WR's can't get off of jams and when they do, McNabb can't deliver the ball. But the bigger problem is Reid is dumb enough to keep passing the ball with an injured QB who was clearly off all night. Skins looked alright. They probably won't blow out many teams given their style of play, but that was a pretty well coached game by Gibbs.





YAKUZA

Yakuza Rich
09-18-2007, 11:07 AM
And our QB is more talented. Dallas has the offensive weapons I think to give any team a hard time.

The good news for Dallas is they are 2-0 and played the Fins (only common opponent with Washington) far better than Washington did. Take that and they are doing it w/o 4 key players as well. If they can get Glenn, Newman, and Ellis somewhere near to their old selves, they should be dramatically better. And I think it's safe to say at this moment Romo is the best QB in the NFC East. If they can beat the Bears on Sunday, the Cowboys will be really tough to beat for the division.




YAKUZA

1fisher
09-18-2007, 11:09 AM
Just a thought dude, but campbell can normally toss the deep ball and we had Moss wide open to the endzone which would have put the skins at 27. he missed the pass, but if the opportunity arises again, I doubt he'll miss it a second time. Just my opinion though.

How do you spin Bugel's reaction to that overthrown pass?

I'd like to hear your take?

You could tell he was VERY frustrated.

firehawk350
09-18-2007, 11:14 AM
He shouldn't have overthrown him, that's undebatable. That pass, with a little more air underneath, was a beautiful 70 yard TD. It's not about spin, he jacked that up. But Campbell's strength (even admitted here at CBZ) is his deep ball, which typically he is very accurate at. He struggles in the short/intermediate range. So, using that logic, I doubt he'll miss that pass again.

1fisher
09-18-2007, 11:15 AM
He shouldn't have overthrown him, that's undebatable. That pass, with a little more air underneath, was a beautiful 70 yard TD. It's not about spin, he jacked that up. But Campbell's strength (even admitted here at CBZ) is his deep ball, which typically he is very accurate at. He struggles in the short/intermediate range. So, using that logic, I doubt he'll miss that pass again.


what do you think was going through Bugel's mind.... He was about to blow a gasket!:laugh2:

fortdick
09-18-2007, 11:23 AM
He shouldn't have overthrown him, that's undebatable. That pass, with a little more air underneath, was a beautiful 70 yard TD. It's not about spin, he jacked that up. But Campbell's strength (even admitted here at CBZ) is his deep ball, which typically he is very accurate at. He struggles in the short/intermediate range. So, using that logic, I doubt he'll miss that pass again.

And if my uncle had boobs he would be my aunt. If that pass had bounced off a seagull and dropped into Moss' arms it would have been a 70 yd. TD.

And you have to be insane to say he will never miss that pass again!

After watching Campbell play, I would say the Redskins are still looking for a QB. He is not going to be anything special.

tunahelper
09-18-2007, 11:28 AM
Lets walk quietly and carry a big stick!

firehawk350
09-18-2007, 11:29 AM
A lot of people disagree with you and not just redskins fans. But I didn't mean to say he won't ever miss that pass again, I meant to say he will connect on it more often then he misses. It's clear he's still getting settled into the offense.

Doomsday101
09-18-2007, 11:35 AM
I'm not sure I'd pick the Skins to beat the Giants. The Redskins will have a hard time blocking Strahan with Jansen and Thomas out. The key will be how well Campbell can hit Moss if he has time and doesn't overthrow him. The Giants played us well in Dallas. They aren't that bad of a team.

I agree and add to it the Giants will be fighting for their lives. They don't want to go 0-3 to start the season and I'm sure they will come out very fired up in this game

5Stars
09-18-2007, 12:03 PM
Watching that game last night, I am still confused as to what is what! :confused:

Either the RedStinks looked pretty good (aside from Campbell) or the eagles defense and offense looked old and slow, like done?

I don't know, but the RedStinks went to someone's house and slapped their kids around!

McPuke, as had been said a thousand times plain out sucks nowdays! As bad as Campbell played, he looked better than McPuke, at least to me.

I just don't know? It's only two games, but I think the RedStinks could give us fits...I'm not so sure about the eagles. Andy Reid sure did not look very healthy too me...he looked whiteish, pale...I think he has some big time stress with this team and his family.

Either the RedStinks looked pretty good, or the eagles look old and done?

Which is it?

:confused:

1fisher
09-18-2007, 12:06 PM
Watching that game last night, I am still confused as to what is what! :confused:

Either the RedStinks looked pretty good (aside from Campbell) or the eagles defense and offense looked old and slow, like done?

I don't know, but the RedStinks went to someone's house and slapped their kids around!

McPuke, as had been said a thousand times plain out sucks nowdays! As bad as Campbell played, he looked better than McPuke, at least to me.

I just don't know? It's only two games, but I think the RedStinks could give us fits...I'm not so sure about the eagles. Andy Reid sure did not look very healthy too me...he looked whiteish, pale...I think he has some big time stress with this team and his family.

Either the RedStinks looked pretty good, or the eagles look old and done?

Which is it?

:confused:


In my opinion the RedStinks looked ok against an old and done team.... ;) :D

Doomsday101
09-18-2007, 12:08 PM
Watching that game last night, I am still confused as to what is what! :confused:

Either the RedStinks looked pretty good (aside from Campbell) or the eagles defense and offense looked old and slow, like done?

I don't know, but the RedStinks went to someone's house and slapped their kids around!

McPuke, as had been said a thousand times plain out sucks nowdays! As bad as Campbell played, he looked better than McPuke, at least to me.

I just don't know? It's only two games, but I think the RedStinks could give us fits...I'm not so sure about the eagles. Andy Reid sure did not look very healthy too me...he looked whiteish, pale...I think he has some big time stress with this team and his family.

Either the RedStinks looked pretty good, or the eagles look old and done?

Which is it?

:confused:

I thought both looked so so. If we judge these teams as hard as we judge the Cowboys then I don't think either one was overly impressive.

5Stars
09-18-2007, 12:14 PM
I thought both looked so so. If we judge these teams as hard as we judge the Cowboys then I don't think either one was overly impressive.


I don't know...the Stinks looked "somewhat fast" to me last night, especially the running game and the defense looked pretty stout!

:confused:

Now, they don't have much depth so if more injuries come about that could derail them, but the eagles looked awful! Especially McPuke...

I don't know now...

5Stars
09-18-2007, 12:14 PM
In my opinion the RedStinks looked ok against an old and done team.... ;) :D


Maybe that's it, because the Stinks sure looked like the better team, at the eagles HOUSE!

:eek:

Doomsday101
09-18-2007, 12:20 PM
I don't know...the Stinks looked "somewhat fast" to me last night, especially the running game and the defense looked pretty stout!

:confused:

Now, they don't have much depth so if more injuries come about that could derail them, but the eagles looked awful! Especially McPuke...

I don't know now...

I think both teams have certain areas of strength but all in all I thought the game was so so by both teams some good some bad. I don't think either team will be easy games for us but I like this team we have and feel we have a very good chance of beating both of them. No doubt we have some things that we need to take care of as well such as the defense but I think when we get Newman back it will allow Stewart to do a lot more with the defense than he is able to do now.

skinsfunguy
09-18-2007, 06:24 PM
I dont understand why you think we look weak? Sure we havent been putting up points like you guys but our defense has given up one touchdown in two games and is averaging 12.5 points per game. While you guys are doing it with offense and flash we are doing it with defense and a solid run game.

Our defense looks much better then yours at this point. Your offense looks much better then ours at this point. Both are equally important. So please tell me how we look "weak"

Redskins points per game so far: 18
Redskins opponents points per game so far: 12.5

Cowboys points per game so far: 41
Cowboys opponents points per game so far: 27.5

burmafrd
09-18-2007, 06:45 PM
going by the numbers then we should win by 8.

bbwlover
09-18-2007, 10:54 PM
Campbell, is obviously, in a learning phase. He has played fewer games than Romo, as a starter. He continues to throw high to the little midget, Moss. I'm a Cowboy fan but don't undercut this kid. He is a high character person and he is going to get better. Joey, was easy to HATE. This kid took his team into, perhaps, the most difficult stadium to play in and came out with a win. Did anyone, other than myself, notice how apathetic the Filthy fans were toward the end of the game? Silence. They weren't even booing! Did anyone find that strange? I picked the 'Skins to finish last in our division but they looked solid. McNabb is a shell of his former self but the Redskin's front seven
looked pretty good. Comments?

silverbear
09-19-2007, 12:14 AM
Say what you will about the Redskins, their secondary looks very good.

The Skins are 14th in passing yards per game allowed, at 229.5... they're tied for 17th in completion percentage allowed, at 61.9... they're tied for last in interceptions, with zero... they're 14th in quarterback rating allowed, at 80.4... they're tied for 10th in number of first downs allowed via pass, at 24...

Their pass defense is highly mediocre, not "very good"...

Iggles defense may not be that good, by what I saw last might, but the Redskins play that ol' style ball control game. With all the first round picks they have in the secondary, they could shut down our passing game.

I'll believe that when I see it...

We will have to out gainthem on the ground, and unfortunately, I think the Skins are very good in that area.

And so are we... 5th in the league in total rushing, one spot behind the Skins... we actually have the higher yards per carry average, 4.7 to 4.3... we have 4 rushing TDs so far, they have 2...

And on the flip side, our run defense is just about as stout as theirs has been thus far in the season, too... we're 11th, the Skins are 9th... we allow a slightly lower yards per carry average, 4.3 to 4.5...

Looking at those numbers, I don't see a real advantage for either team in the running game... both teams have very good running attacks, both teams have a bit better than average run defenses...

Of course, the Skins have now lost both their starters on the right side of their offensive line, which might make give the Cowboys the edge...

It could well come down to our passing attack versus their pass defense, their passing attack versus our pass defense... I'll take my chances with those matchups...

silverbear
09-19-2007, 12:24 AM
Just a thought dude, but campbell can normally toss the deep ball

He had 3 completions of 40 plus last season, in 207 attempts... that's 1 in every 69 attempts, or less than one every other game...

Donovan McNabb hit on 1 40 yarder in every 22.6 attempts last year, Drew Brees hit on 1 in every 30.8 attempts, Carson Palmer 1 in every 34.7 attempts, Tony Romo has hit on 1 in every 35.5 attempts thus far in his 12 game NFL career... that's nearly twice as often as Jason hits on one...

And of course, a number of the 40 yarders that Campbell HAS completed thus far have been heavy on the run after catch...

Really, though Campbell had a rep for throwing a nice deep ball coming out of college, he hasn't really demonstrated much of a deep threat thus far in his NFL career...

silverbear
09-19-2007, 12:30 AM
Our defense looks much better then yours at this point. Your offense looks much better then ours at this point. Both are equally important. So please tell me how we look "weak"

Well, let's start with the fact that neither of your opponents to date has won a game in the NFL yet (which is also true for the Boys)...

Redskins points per game so far: 18

And it took you extra time to get to 16 against the Fins...

Redskins opponents points per game so far: 12.5

The Fins are averaging 16.5 for the season, the Iggles 12.5... IOW, neither one is what you'd call a potent offense...

Cowboys points per game so far: 41
Cowboys opponents points per game so far: 27.5

Average margin of victory, Skins: 5.5 points per game...

Average margin of victory, Boys: 13.5 points per game...

Mutual opponents: Dallas 37, Miami 20, in Miami... Washington 16, Miami 13 (OT), in Washington...

silverbear
09-19-2007, 12:36 AM
Campbell, is obviously, in a learning phase. He has played fewer games than Romo, as a starter.

Three whole games less... maybe Skins fans need to stop using that as a copout, to explain away the significant difference in the numbers put up by the two quarterbacks...

I picked the 'Skins to finish last in our division but they looked solid. McNabb is a shell of his former self but the Redskin's front seven
looked pretty good. Comments?

I'm still unimpressed with the Skins... especially when their offensive linemen are droppin' like flies, they had little quality depth on the OL to begin with...

skinsfunguy
09-19-2007, 11:54 AM
He had 3 completions of 40 plus last season, in 207 attempts... that's 1 in every 69 attempts, or less than one every other game...

Donovan McNabb hit on 1 40 yarder in every 22.6 attempts last year, Drew Brees hit on 1 in every 30.8 attempts, Carson Palmer 1 in every 34.7 attempts, Tony Romo has hit on 1 in every 35.5 attempts thus far in his 12 game NFL career... that's nearly twice as often as Jason hits on one...

And of course, a number of the 40 yarders that Campbell HAS completed thus far have been heavy on the run after catch...

Really, though Campbell had a rep for throwing a nice deep ball coming out of college, he hasn't really demonstrated much of a deep threat thus far in his NFL career...

Look at how our secondary played for three quarters on Monday Night. They didn't start giving up yards until the fourth quarter when the CB's began playing off the cornerbacks in order to not give up the big play.

The Eagles offense was STAGNANT for three quarters of plan on Monday. Did you watch the game or are you just going by the stats?

TunaFan33
09-19-2007, 01:05 PM
Why is everyone having this silly discussion? Who cares about stats? In the end, W's and L's are the only ones that matter.

silverbear
09-19-2007, 08:07 PM
Look at how our secondary played for three quarters on Monday Night. They didn't start giving up yards until the fourth quarter when the CB's began playing off the cornerbacks in order to not give up the big play.

Seems to me the subject was Jason Campbell, and his ability to throw the deep ball... now, you suddenly want to change that subject...

silverbear
09-19-2007, 08:09 PM
Why is everyone having this silly discussion?

Because we like to talk football... what a novel idea, eh??

If you don't like a thread, I have another novel idea for you-- don't post to it... but don't go runnin' around like you get to dictate what we do or don't talk about in here... the number of posts to this thread suggests that SOME of us find it interesting, even if you don't...

skinsfunguy
09-20-2007, 10:48 AM
Seems to me the subject was Jason Campbell, and his ability to throw the deep ball... now, you suddenly want to change that subject...

Sorry, I quoted the wrong post. I meant to quote post # 69 where you said,

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Say what you will about the Redskins, their secondary looks very good.

The Skins are 14th in passing yards per game allowed, at 229.5... they're tied for 17th in completion percentage allowed, at 61.9... they're tied for last in interceptions, with zero... they're 14th in quarterback rating allowed, at 80.4... they're tied for 10th in number of first downs allowed via pass, at 24...

Their pass defense is highly mediocre, not "very good"...