Cedric Benson

[ghst187]

I hope all of you UT homers will now stop talking about us drafting Cedric Benson..

As I watched OU beat UT for the 5th straight time, I realized what I thought would be all along, that Benson would be a very very distant second best RB in the game. The best RB in the game was a true freshman. In fact, Benson might have been the third best RB in the game.
Benson may or may not end up being the top RB in the next draft class but it will only be by default. You can go back and find my quote from another thread..."Benson racks up huge yards against patsies and virtually disappears (and fumbles) against quality opponents."

That said, Rod Wright and Derrick Johnson are VERY good. DJ is just about as good as advertised, what an athlete! Rod Wright could probably use another year in school to finish developing but he is a stud. He kinda reminds me of Leon Lett. He's huge, over 300 but looks lean and agile. He could add weight if he needed. He didn't make a ton of plays but a few and OU got almost all of their rushing yards running outside the tackles.

Mac Brown....sooooooooooo owned!

[Waffle]

Hopefully that will shut up the Benson homers. Adrian Peterson is a REAL RB. Benson is great versus the likes of UNT and Rice. Just watched the game and the proof unfolded before our eyes. Sorry Texas fans!! ;)

[ddh33]

Benson has always been a little overrated in my mind. I just don't care too much for him.

Peterson is a stud though. What's scary is that he still has a lot to learn.

[junk]

I don't care who it is, but Dallas needs to bring in insurance at RB unless Lee really shows something. The jury is out on Julius and RB needs to get fixed. Eddie George isn't the answer.

A draft pick? Lamont Jordan? I don't know, but it needs to be addressed I think.

[Madzo]

Never seen Benson play one down on tv. When I finally did, he fumbles.

[VirusX]

Its funny how quickly people drop off of the JJ is the Next Emmitt bus as soon as he goes down. It annoys me all the bangwagon beaches jumping on and off. Tired of the quakes. Look at Mt.St. Helens. Its getting stired up by all the bangwagoners jummping around.

[Waffle]

Its funny how quickly people drop off of the JJ is the Next Emmitt bus as soon as he goes down. It annoys me all the bangwagon beaches jumping on and off. Tired of the quakes. Look at Mt.St. Helens. Its getting stired up by all the bangwagoners jummping around.
While your assessment may be accurate for some posters here, I was only pointing out how overrated Benson is. You won't find me near Mt. St. Helens as it's still WAY too early to write JJ off yet. Irvin was drafted in '88, but he didn't have a Pro-Bowl season until '91 after sustaining injuries in his early seasons.

[VirusX]

I agree. I think JJ has a bad start on his hopfully long career. I just think the bandwagon'ers need to settle down with the OH WE NEED A RB with the first round pick next year. Portis was a 2nd rounder and he isnt the worst RB in the league JJ was a 2nd round pick and people expected him the be the next emmitt until he got hurt. On the benson subject I agree. Except for UT Linemen almost all UT players are overrated. Defensive players are an exception along with Roy Williams (Who was not utilized at UT)

[GeneralPatton]

I hope all of you UT homers will now stop talking about us drafting Cedric Benson..

As I watched OU beat UT for the 5th straight time, I realized what I thought would be all along, that Benson would be a very very distant second best RB in the game. The best RB in the game was a true freshman. In fact, Benson might have been the third best RB in the game.
Benson may or may not end up being the top RB in the next draft class but it will only be by default. You can go back and find my quote from another thread..."Benson racks up huge yards against patsies and virtually disappears (and fumbles) against quality opponents."

That said, Rod Wright and Derrick Johnson are VERY good. DJ is just about as good as advertised, what an athlete! Rod Wright could probably use another year in school to finish developing but he is a stud. He kinda reminds me of Leon Lett. He's huge, over 300 but looks lean and agile. He could add weight if he needed. He didn't make a ton of plays but a few and OU got almost all of their rushing yards running outside the tackles.

Mac Brown....sooooooooooo owned!



What an idiot. How do you call Benson bad when he was the only thing on offense producing any yards. All OU had to do was stop the UT running game. I don't care how good any running back is. When he's playing by himself, he won't produce. Mac may be an average coach that didn't help his stars on offense, but you look like an idiot when you say that Benson looked worse than kejuan Jones. So pathetic.

The General

[junk]

I agree. I think JJ has a bad start on his hopfully long career. I just think the bandwagon'ers need to settle down with the OH WE NEED A RB with the first round pick next year. Portis was a 2nd rounder and he isnt the worst RB in the league JJ was a 2nd round pick and people expected him the be the next emmitt until he got hurt. On the benson subject I agree. Except for UT Linemen almost all UT players are overrated. Defensive players are an exception along with Roy Williams (Who was not utilized at UT)

I think we all hope that, but can you really say that RB is not a weakness and huge question mark right now? Maybe not a first round pick, but Dallas needs some insurance there. It is just as probable that he is injury prone or a bust as it that he is a solid RB.

BP seems to like RB by committee and you need people to have a committee. George wont be back (I hope), RA is getting old, Lee is unproven. If Lee shows something, I wouldnt worry about RB. If he doesn't, it needs to be addressed irregardless of JJ's status.

I personally like Jones. I hope he does well. This has nothing to do with jumping on or off any bandwagon. Maybe he comes back this year and shows something. If he doesn't, the team needs some insurance there.

[ghst187]

idiot to a UT homer who's sore about 5 in a row.

How many times did K Jones fumble? I didn't see Benson do much that Jones couldn't have done....except fumble for the 4th time in 2 games.

I didn't say Benson sucked, just overrated, mostly by a lot of people on this board.

[Randy White]

this highly touted RB prospect out of highschool couldn't beat his arch rival in college. His teams lost all 3 games he played:

28 - 14 = ( 20 carries, 100 yards )
52 - 17 = ( 15 carries, 56 yards )
24 - 17 = ( 30 carries, 153 yards )


The school ?= Florida State
The Running back ? = Emmitt Smith.

[Dallas]

idiot to a UT homer who's sore about 5 in a row.

How many times did K Jones fumble? I didn't see Benson do much that Jones couldn't have done....except fumble for the 4th time in 2 games.

I didn't say Benson sucked, just overrated, mostly by a lot of people on this board.


HEehe...GP is letting those 5 butt kickings get in the way of his un-biased Texas player evaluation.

Grrrrrrrrrr !!! Angry Posts. LOL :D

[Skeptic]

Boo-yah.

TEXAS SUCKS.

12-0.

Here's not hoping you guys get Spurrier after Mack Brown chokes AGAIN.

MACK BROWN.....FOUR MORE YEARS.
:D

[Skeptic]

this highly touted RB prospect out of highschool couldn't beat his arch rival in college. His teams lost all 3 games he played:

28 - 14 = ( 20 carries, 100 yards )
52 - 17 = ( 15 carries, 56 yards )
24 - 17 = ( 30 carries, 153 yards )


The school ?= Florida State
The Running back ? = Emmitt Smith.
Pffffffffffffft.

You want to talk smack?

Talk about Mr. I-would-rather-win-the-Heisman-than-beat-OU.

LOL.

[big dog cowboy]

Adrian Peterson is a REAL RB.

That kid looks for real. As a true freshman, he was very impressive. I will be shocked if he isn't drafted very very high in a few years.

[Waffle]

Maybe Benson will be a great pro RB after all. Since I've already seen the Lions' Roy Williams look better than he ever did at Texas, you can only conclude that these Longhorn players on offense just need decent coaching to maximize their talents. It's obvious they aren't getting that in college from Mack Brown and Offensive Coordinator Greg Davis.


"I'll answer that for Chris" - Mack Brown (2002)

[Waffle]

That kid looks for real. As a true freshman, he was very impressive. I will be shocked if he isn't drafted very very high in a few years.
Yeah...OU fans should be happy the NFL won the Clarett ruling or there would be a chance for him to leave even earlier than he probably already will.

[DallasCowpoke111]

I hope all of you UT homers will now stop talking about us drafting Cedric Benson..

Wrong forum Capt. Pisswilly... nice too see YOUR bandwagon finaly arrived!!

Guess after-the-fact, IS a lot safer!!

:rolleyes:

[Fletch]

Cedric was awesome throughout highschool (Midland Lee) and has had some success with the Longhorns. But when it comes to big games, Benson doesn't produce, and yes, even fumbles. Also, Texas is always overrated in the poles. No way were they a top 5 team going into the game vs. OU. Anyway, I would be cautious if I was a GM and had to pick up a RB. I definitely would not waste a 1st round pick on Benson. A late 2nd or 3rd rounder would be more like it.

[Randy White]

Pffffffffffffft.

You want to talk smack?

Talk about Mr. I-would-rather-win-the-Heisman-than-beat-OU.

LOL.


Smack ? You couldn't handle it if I did.

I'm not an OU fan or a Texas Fan ( don't care about either ), but the point of the post is that you can't judge any player by how he plays against any particular team. Troy Aikman got his butt kicked by Nebraska in '88. The QB for NU threw 5 TD passes while Troy looked like QUACKsy Carter against the Huskers. He, also, couldn't beat Rodney Peete's Trojans either. That didn't mean a thing in the NFL.

Benson is a darn good RB, and should be a pretty good one in the Pros. That doesn't mean he will be, but he " should " be. As far as winning the Heisman instead of beating OU, I'd rather do the same if I were him. Beating OU once in 5, 6 years would be forgotten the next week. Winning the Heisman is forever.

Now, if beating OU meant winning the National Championship, that's a different story, but a regular season game ? Pass. I'd take the Heisman every time.

[Randy White]

Maybe Benson will be a great pro RB after all. Since I've already seen the Lions' Roy Williams look better than he ever did at Texas, you can only conclude that these Longhorn players on offense just need decent coaching to maximize their talents. It's obvious they aren't getting that in college from Mack Brown and Offensive Coordinator Greg Davis.


Chris Simms looks a hell of alot better playing for the Bucs than he ever did for Texas.

[Dallas]

Wrong forum Capt. Pisswilly... nice too see YOUR bandwagon finaly arrived!!

Guess after-the-fact, IS a lot safer!!

:rolleyes:

Wow. Im diggin that sig pic and sig. Who does that for you guys?

Thats awesome.


:D

[Waffle]

Chris Simms looks a hell of alot better playing for the Bucs than he ever did for Texas.
Yeah, I forgot about him. He's starting Sunday too!

[Natedawg44]

I wouldnt be as harsh on Benson. Consider what hes been dealing with a QB. No way Vince Young has any business being a QB. He's definitely out of position. He could possibly be a very good WR with his size, speed and moves. Watching the game though, the guy has no accuracy. Roy WIlliams might have been the 1st overall selection if he had a decent QB throwing him the ball in college. I thought Benson had a decent game except for the fumble facing 8 and 9 man fronts with no threat of a passing game.

[ghst187]

Wrong forum Capt. Pisswilly... nice too see YOUR bandwagon finaly arrived!!

Guess after-the-fact, IS a lot safer!!

:rolleyes:

my bandwagon is us drafting Rolle or Mike Williams.

Of course, I just so happen to be an OU alum....
sorry UTs owning is such a sore spot....

[Skeptic]

Smack ? You couldn't handle it if I did.

I'm not an OU fan or a Texas Fan ( don't care about either ), but the point of the post is that you can't judge any player by how he plays against any particular team. Troy Aikman got his butt kicked by Nebraska in '88. The QB for NU threw 5 TD passes while Troy looked like QUACKsy Carter against the Huskers. He, also, couldn't beat Rodney Peete's Trojans either. That didn't mean a thing in the NFL.

Benson is a darn good RB, and should be a pretty good one in the Pros. That doesn't mean he will be, but he " should " be. As far as winning the Heisman instead of beating OU, I'd rather do the same if I were him. Beating OU once in 5, 6 years would be forgotten the next week. Winning the Heisman is forever.

Now, if beating OU meant winning the National Championship, that's a different story, but a regular season game ? Pass. I'd take the Heisman every time.

You were saying........................?

[TruBlueCowboy]

Too bad we can't push that Buffalo draft pick over a few years and grab Adrian Peterson when he's in the draft. I'd love to see him in a Cowboys uniform. I remember all the hype he had as a high school player only a year ago. Hard to believe he's already a college star. What a phenomenal talent.

[Hostile]

Too bad we can't push that Buffalo draft pick over a few years and grab Adrian Peterson when he's in the draft. I'd love to see him in a Cowboys uniform. I remember all the hype he had as a high school player only a year ago. Hard to believe he's already a college star. What a phenomenal talent.
Best freshman RB I've seen since Herschel Walker.

[Cbz40]

Adrian Peterson Is for real..........What a Talent

[GeneralPatton]

Benson was the Leading rusher for UT with 92 yds on 23 attempts and ALSO the leading receiver with 3 receptions for 33 yards. I think you knuckleheads are misplacing your hate for UT on Benson. Get rid of that blind hatred and you'll see that Benson did outstanding being the only offensive producer out there. But that's a tall wish for kiddies like you to achieve.

The General

[Dallas]

Benson was the Leading rusher for UT with 92 yds on 23 attempts and ALSO the leading receiver with 3 receptions for 33 yards. I think you knuckleheads are misplacing your hate for UT on Benson. Get rid of that blind hatred and you'll see that Benson did outstanding being the only offensive producer out there. But that's a tall wish for kiddies like you to achieve.

The General

You just keep believing that. :D I never said I hated the kid. Funny how you generalize some critical breakdown of Benson as HATE. Get off the box bro. You cant deny Benson dissapears when the pressure is on.


D

[GeneralPatton]

You just keep believing that. :D I never said I hated the kid. Funny how you generalize some critical breakdown of Benson as HATE. Get off the box bro. You cant deny Benson dissapears when the pressure is on.


D


Do you really think dissapearing equals leading rusher and leading receiver. If so, then I'm just not going to reply to you anymore. Please clarify, because at this moment you really don't sound very bright.

The General

[Dallas]

Do you really think dissapearing equals leading rusher and leading receiver. If so, then I'm just not going to reply to you anymore. Please clarify, because at this moment you really don't sound very bright.

The General

All everyone in this thread is saying is the Benson is over-rated. That he doesnt bring an impact to a game like an Adrian Peterson does. He is just another RB as far as Im concerned. I dont see him putting up the big #'s against proven defenses. Give me his stats over proven top 10 defenses the last 4 years? He doesnt show. Thats all everyone is saying.

Bright? Stop looking through your homer glasses and you may just see what many of us are saying. If you want to still toot that he is a great RB and the whole entire Texas team is just Cedric Benson. Then yes we are done discussing it.

[GeneralPatton]

All everyone in this thread is saying is the Benson is over-rated. That he doesnt bring an impact to a game like an Adrian Peterson does. He is just another RB as far as Im concerned. I dont see him putting up the big #'s against proven defenses. Give me his stats over proven top 10 defenses the last 4 years? He doesnt show. Thats all everyone is saying.

Bright? Stop looking through your homer glasses and you may just see what many of us are saying. If you want to still toot that he is a great RB and the whole entire Texas team is just Cedric Benson. Then yes we are done discussing it.

First of all Dallas, You got in on this one late. There were a few other guys that just put there mothers to shame. Having said that, the bulk of my comments were directed at them. If you felt the initial few posts were directed at you, then you might need to do some reflection.

Second of all, It seems like you finally came up with a semi valid arguement. The only difference is that, most of the games he's dissapeared on have been against OU. And with UT's pathetic excuse for offensive coaching the past 4 years, how can you hold it against Cedric. I really do feel that his performance is directly due to the coaches performance. In those games where coaching doesn't matter as much, Cedric really does shine. I think this is the first year he's dedicated himself to football in the offseason. And it really does show. Las year I categorized him as a toe dipper the first half of the year. This year I think he's a top 10 pick.

Now on to Mr. Peterson. How many ways can you say WOW. This guy is just amazing. If he stays for his junior year I'll be suprized. I don't think I've EVER seen a RB as good as him.



The General

[Dallas]

First of all Dallas, You got in on this one late. There were a few other guys that just put there mothers to shame. Having said that, the bulk of my comments were directed at them. If you felt the initial few posts were directed at you, then you might need to do some reflection.

Second of all, It seems like you finally came up with a semi valid arguement. The only difference is that, most of the games he's dissapeared on have been against OU. And with UT's pathetic excuse for offensive coaching the past 4 years, how can you hold it against Cedric. I really do feel that his performance is directly due to the coaches performance. In those games where coaching doesn't matter as much, Cedric really does shine. I think this is the first year he's dedicated himself to football in the offseason. And it really does show. Las year I categorized him as a toe dipper the first half of the year. This year I think he's a top 10 pick.

Now on to Mr. Peterson. How many ways can you say WOW. This guy is just amazing. If he stays for his junior year I'll be suprized. I don't think I've EVER seen a RB as good as him.



The General

Sorry if I came across wrong GP. I can do that sometimes. Benson is a strong runner this year. Finally. I gave up on him last year when he didnt dedicate himself as much to running. He is big and strong and has some moves. Im spoiled. Ive watched some really good backs that past 15 yrs or so and have a habit of comparing everyone to greatness (thank you Emmitt Smith).

Benson is a good work horse. I just dont see him being a threat that defenses fear. Those are few and far between.

I hope AD shows to be one of the few and far between. I think he can be. ESPN has him #2 on the Heisman list. WooHOOOO !!!

[joseephuss]

Mack did not even play Benson against OU when he was a freshman. Another reason Stoops is better than Brown, he puts his best players on the field no matter their experience. It is a risk, but worth it when the guys can make plays.

Adrian Peterson looks great(from my home town) and will give OU at least three good years unless he tries to buck the system like Clarett.

[DallasCowpoke111]

Sorry if I came across wrong GP. I can do that sometimes. Benson is a strong runner this year. Finally. I gave up on him last year when he didnt dedicate himself as much to running.

:confused:

Yeaaa, 1360 yards and 21 TD'S he put up last year, just THINK what he could'a done if he COMMITED himself!!!

:rolleyes:


Honestly D, sometimes your dislike of Texas, blinds you from the facts that stare you in the face.

FACT: Benson's the ONLY RB in the nation, I repeat, the ONLY RB, who's put up 1000+ yard years since he was a freshman. And that's WITHOUT starting until midway into his Soph year.

[Dallas]

:confused:

Yeaaa, 1360 yards and 21 TD'S he put up last year, just THINK what he could'a done if he COMMITED himself!!!

:rolleyes:


Honestly D, sometimes your dislike of Texas, blinds you from the facts that stare you in the face.

FACT: Benson's the ONLY RB in the nation, I repeat, the ONLY RB, who's put up 1000+ yard years since he was a freshman. And that's WITHOUT starting until midway into his Soph year.

Thats fine and good. He still is not a great RB. Those numbers say nothing about how he is against top defenses. Go back and look how Benson fared the last 2-3 yrs going up against good solid rated D's. He hardly even shows. The horse can run over a no name D all day long tho. I agree with you there Pokey. :rolleyes: