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dcfanatic · 05-29-2010

They did make a lot of sense here.

Teague31 · 05-30-2010

the only wr issue we have is figuring out which one will destroy the opposition on any given week.

28 Joker · 05-30-2010

I still think Crayton is going to be out of here. I think the Cowboys would be better served just giving Crayton his release now, instead of holding out for a 5th or 6th round pick. That is what you are looking at, at best, imo. The Cowboys can say that they are "not going to release him" all they want, too. Dallas has made its intentions known about Crayton. Teams are going to sit down and wait for the team to cut him, and only a desperate team would trade for him, imo.

So, the Cowboys have to decide this. Do we really want all this "drama" lasting until August and throughout camp? Crayton is already using his voice to get out now, and he can keep on talking throughout camp. That will be a distraction to the team.

Do the Cowboys really want an episode of "As the WRs Turn" during this camp and mini-camp? If I were Dallas, I would just cut Crayton. Let him go to another team and avoid this distraction. A 5th or 6th round pick, that you would be real lucky to get, isn't worth the drama, imo.

It comes down to this. You either believe in Kevin Ogletree, or you don't. If you cut Crayton now, Kevin Ogletree gets more work and more prepared.

28 Joker · 05-30-2010

Also, Sam Hurd is probably gone, too.

I hope Manny Johnson makes this team.

The fast guy that played in Canada could take his spot, too.

They have more potential at WR, because they are much, much, much faster; moreover, they should be able to cover those kicks. Plus, they are much cheaper.

FLcowboy · 05-30-2010

Assuming Austin, Williams, and Bryant perform to expectations, Crayton is still the 4th best WR. If any of the first 3 go down, then Crayton is the man. Can Ogletree/Ryan/Holley/Johnson/Hurd be a #3?

In a run to the Super Bowl, Crayton makes a lot of sense.

Nexx · 05-30-2010

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Originally Posted by FLcowboy

In a run to the Super Bowl, Crayton makes a lot of sense.

yeah like his drop on a critical 3rd down and his give up route he ran later in that playoff game against the giants made a lot of sense.

Eskimo · 05-30-2010

I don't see Crayton making the final roster.

Ogletree will the the #4 and will be groomed to the future #3 once the team makes the decision on whether to extend Miles and cut Roy or trade Miles and keep Roy.

I'm guessing Manny Johnson beats out Hurd for the #5 WR but this is a test to won on STs and Johnson's potential as a WR.

I think we keep 6 WRs with one of the UDFAs or Titus Ryan taking the last spot.

links18 · 05-30-2010

We are going to wait to see if we have any injuries in camp or if anyone else has injuries and wants to pay us for Crayton. Crayton is afraid that no injuries will happen and he will just get cut and end up making less than that the $2 million he thinks he has coming. He might be right. In the end, Crayton has to show he is several steps above of Ogletree, Johnson, Hurd, etc. in order for the team to want to keep him in preparation for an injury during a Super Bowl run. With Crayton's luck he'll be the one who gets injured.

dfense · 05-31-2010

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I still think Crayton is going to be out of here. I think the Cowboys would be better served just giving Crayton his release now, instead of holding out for a 5th or 6th round pick. That is what you are looking at, at best, imo. The Cowboys can say that they are "not going to release him" all they want, too. Dallas has made its intentions known about Crayton. Teams are going to sit down and wait for the team to cut him, and only a desperate team would trade for him, imo.

So, the Cowboys have to decide this. Do we really want all this "drama" lasting until August and throughout camp? Crayton is already using his voice to get out now, and he can keep on talking throughout camp. That will be a distraction to the team.

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So release Crayton, who's under contract for a couple more years. Then, Austin blows his knee out in training camp. So you're left with an expensive underachiever, a rookie, a second year player who has all of like 8 catches, and Sam "I dropped my last two important catches" Hurd.

If Crayton wants to pout, let him sit on the bench. The Cowboys are due to make an example of someone to send a message to the rest of the team anyways.

28 Joker · 05-31-2010

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So release Crayton, who's under contract for a couple more years. Then, Austin blows his knee out in training camp. So you're left with an expensive underachiever, a rookie, a second year player who has all of like 8 catches, and Sam "I dropped my last two important catches" Hurd.

If Crayton wants to pout, let him sit on the bench. The Cowboys are due to make an example of someone to send a message to the rest of the team anyways.

The Cowboys could keep him as an insurance policy, but I'm just saying this:

Don't expect Patrick Crayton to not be a distraction. The media will love trying to keep something stirred up. It gives them ammunition to create distractions. Furthermore, Crayton's already basically stated that he's "just as good" as Roy Williams. He's already talked about Williams not getting "opportunites" to live up to expectations. Hmm. Wonder where he remembered that play. It came straight out of the Terrell Owens playbook, and it was part of the reason iOwens was booted. Crayton clearly wants out of Dallas.

We will see what the Cowboys do, but I think the damage has been done. Yes, the Cowboys could keep a player who doesn't want to be here as a fourth WR and not play him, but the consequences would probably be an unhappy, talking to the media "about it", Patrick Crayton.

That microphone is going to be in Patrick Crayton's face throughout training camp. Do you think he's just going to be quiet about his situation?

What if the top three WRs stay healthy, then you have an unhappy Patrick Crayton on your hands. Is a likely distraction worth it? Can't wait for the Dallas press to ask Roy Williams if he thinks Crayton is getting the shaft, after outplaying him last year.

Look, I'd cut Roy Williams or bench him and keep Crayton this year, but I'm not the GM.

Doomsday101 · 06-01-2010

Caryton wants out I hope he gets what he wants. I don't think this team needs to deal with a pouting player creating a disruption.

CATCH17 · 05-30-2010

Our WR issues are awesome.

**jobberone** · 05-30-2010

He's going to be behind the number three WR. He's not likely to be returning punts. What's his job on the team? You're not likely to even have him active on game day. KO plays STs.

Finally, the biggest problem is he will take up a roster spot.

They will look to trade him and get something before releasing him. It will be after Jun 1 at least. They will release him in time to get picked up by a team and have a chance to make the roster. That's just my take on the situation.

RealCowboyfan · 05-31-2010

I would rather see the Cowboys trade him off to St. Louis Rams for Atogwe

Plumfool · 05-31-2010

I like the idea of rotating receivers. I say keep Crayton to rotate with the top three.