Jets tell Abraham to talk to other teams - Dallas Cowboys Forum

Bryan8284 · 03-16-2005

ESPN (Sportscenter) just said the Jets told Abraham that he can talk to other teams after he turned down a one year deal worth like 6.5.

Jets are supposed to be calling their bluff, as per ESPN.

Sandman52 · 03-16-2005

Cute. Couldn't have been better timing.

**trickblue** · 03-16-2005

I like Abraham just fine... but would rather have Howard... character definitely seperates these two...

Eskimo · 03-16-2005

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Originally Posted by trickblue

I like Abraham just fine... but would rather have Howard... character definitely seperates these two...

You've got a very legit point, TB.

It'll be interesting to see how this all plays out.

I think teams are paying more and more attention to character because of suspensions and the amount they have invested in these guys. The classic case is Plaxico Burress who has all-world talent but has yet to find a suitor.

31smackdown · 03-16-2005

I wish I had seen more of howard play, I think Abraham is as close to Dwight Freeney as you can get. Great quickness off the edge. Unfortunately with the injury to his knee there is a certain amount of unknown there in addition to the character issues.

InmanRoshi · 03-16-2005

Not a good day for the Saints leverage when Seattle fills their DE need and Abraham's free to start negotiating trades.

The30YardSlant · 03-16-2005

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Originally Posted by trickblue

I like Abraham just fine... but would rather have Howard... character definitely seperates these two...

Abraham is 3 years younger, has far more raw skill and ability, and is alot faster.

aikemirv · 03-16-2005

Abraham is a LDE I believe and Howard is a RDE and we know that Ellis cannot make the switch to RDE so.......

Compensation/salary/position - a lot to weigh...

Eskimo · 03-16-2005

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Originally Posted by Sandman52

Cute. Couldn't have been better timing.

It could drive down the asking price for Howard - Saints will know how much BP loves reunions.

Abraham is the superior pass rusher but seems a bit tempermental and is even more injury prone than Howard.

jbsg02 · 03-16-2005

I hope we get one of the 2

Qwickdraw · 03-16-2005

The Jets would be mortified if we take their 2 best defensive lineman.
They won't let us get Abraham, I'm sure they are still holding a grudge over the Fergi deal.

Cbz40 · 03-16-2005

The straw that will break the camels back...........

dmq · 03-16-2005

Abraham mulls holdout
after Jets sack proposal

BY RICH CIMINI
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

John Abraham

John Abraham's contract situation is starting to get messy.
Talks between the Jets and their "franchise" player hit a brick wall Monday, when the club rejected a proposed long-term contract, Abraham's agents, Tony Agnone and Rich Rosa, said yesterday.

Agnone and Rosa, miffed by what they perceive as a lack of urgency from the Jets, hinted that the star pass rusher might not report to training camp unless he gets a long-term deal. It also appears Abraham won't participate in the offseason program, which begins April 4.

"Obviously, he's looking for a commitment and stability," Agnone said. "At first, he was okay with the franchise tag, but he was kind of hoping it would lead to a long-term deal."

There's virtually no chance of that happening before July15. The window to sign a franchise player to a long-term contract closes today at 4 p.m. After that, there's a four-month blackout period. If the Jets were to sign Abraham during that period, they wouldn't be able to use the franchise tag on another player for the duration of that contract.

Chances are, Abraham will play the season for the amount of his franchise tender, $6.7 million, the average salary of the five highest-paid defensive ends. Agnone emphasized that Abraham has no plans to sign the tender anytime soon. Without a contract, he wouldn't be allowed in the offseason program.

Abraham's agents said they aren't demanding a trade, but they plan to shop him around the league, looking for potential suitors. Abraham is a non-exclusive franchise player, meaning he has the right to negotiate with other teams. But, if he signs an offer sheet, the Jets have the right of first refusal.

Because of the steep draft-pick compensation (the Jets would get two No.1 picks) Abraham isn't likely to generate much interest unless his agents can facilitate a trade. Jets GM Terry Bradway has said he has no plans to deal Abraham.

Abraham's camp said it sent the Jets a proposal last Thursday that included "significant concessions" on a long-term contract. On Monday, his camp got a response from the Jets, who declined to make a counter-proposal, Agnone said. The Jets followed up with an overnight letter, reiterating their stance and saying they were pulling their offer from last November off the table. "I guess they're going to be in a pay-as-you-go mode," Agnone said.

Asked if Abraham will stage a training-camp holdout, Agnone said, "Everything is open to possibility at this point."

The Jets declined to comment yesterday.

Abraham is believed to be seeking a deal that would pay him more than the Eagles' Jevon Kearse, who signed an eight-year, $66 million contract last year that included $16 million in guarantees.

Nors · 03-16-2005

ITS TIME TO BRING IN A DRAFTED PLAYER .....

And stop the silliness of trading away the shop and $16M Cash for other teams 29 year old DE's. Abraham is also deep into the substance abuse program. One strike away....

MAYBE "THATS" WHY JETS WANT NO PART OF lONG TERM DEAL....

Erik_H · 03-16-2005

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Originally Posted by Nors

ITS TIME TO BRING IN A DRAFTED PLAYER .....

And stop the silliness of trading away the shop and $16M Cash for other teams 29 year old DE's. Abraham is also deep into the substance abuse program. One strike away....

MAYBE "THATS" WHY JETS WANT NO PART OF lONG TERM DEAL....

His substance abuse was a DWI and a car accident. He hit a telephone pole.