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Old 10-15-2011   #1
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Default Where is Jay Ratliff?

i dont notice him on the field anymore. i knew jerry would sign him to a fat contract and i knew it would be a bad move. i saw it coming with hamlin, newman, roy williams both, barber III, davis, etc....anyways dont you think he would be much more effective at DE?
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i dont notice him on the field anymore. i knew jerry would sign him to a fat contract and i knew it would be a bad move. i saw it coming with hamlin, newman, roy williams both, barber III, davis, etc....anyways dont you think he would be much more effective at DE?
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Mostly he's been on the field anchoring what has been a superb d line/run defense. I don't know where he is on off days and nights, however.
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Come up with a semi-intelligent thread...
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Why be original to such a dumb question?
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It's really all your post deserved. Ratliff is doing his job as always. He's on pace to match his best year in total tackles and beat last years number of sacks. If he has one or two really big games along the way, he may end up with more of both before the year is finished.

We're number one against the rush right now, though we are benefiting from having had our bye, but Jay is a huge part of why our run D is so good. We're 8th in sacks and are hurt because of just having our bye. Jay is also part of why we have so many sacks because he draws double teams and helps collapse the pocket.

So rather then assume he did not deserve to get paid, try to look at what he's actually doing. He's the same guy he always was, teams account for him now which is why he does not get the freakish sacks he had one year. That's still good, it means it frees up someone else because they are worried about Jay.
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I love him,but he has been MIA! What a perfect time to wake up!!!!
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I love him,but he has been MIA! What a perfect time to wake up!!!!
How has he been MIA? Do you watch him? Vince Wilfork, greatest 34 NT ever, .5 sacks and 4 tackles in 5 games, Jay Ratliff, undersized, MIA chump, 1 sack and 8 tackles in 4 games.

You really should spend some time learning how to evaluate NT before you comment on Ratliff, he's not at all MIA. He's stuffing the run, taking on doubles, and collasping the pocket, that does not show up in the stat sheets.
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He's in jail...
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i dont notice him on the field anymore. i knew jerry would sign him to a fat contract and i knew it would be a bad move. i saw it coming with hamlin, newman, roy williams both, barber III, davis, etc....anyways dont you think he would be much more effective at DE?
Ryan's 3-4 scheme relies on him to get offenses to attack him with more than one blocker. That keeps Ratliff from making as many plays, but frees up other defenders to make them.

So every time you see Sean Lee making tackles, thank Ratliff. When you see the run defense making stop after stop, thank Ratliff. When you see guys like Jason Hatcher, Anthony Spencer, etc., getting pressure on the quarterback, thank Ratliff.
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Guys you too easily dismiss this post. And I think a bit of homerism has to do with it.

He has been doing his job against the run. But he is clearly not the Ratliff of old. I sincerely doubt he'll have an 8 sack season this year. Probably closer to 3 or 4 sacks, which is still pretty good for a 34 NT but not dominant like he used to be. And considering his age he is likely to get worse not better.
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