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04-21-2012
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Cowboys not expected to take OLB in Round 1
Just some media speculation for those interested . . . .
Cowboys | Not expected to take OLB in first round
Sat, 21 Apr 2012 09:19:56 -0700
The Dallas Cowboys are not expected to take an outside linebacker in the first round of the 2012 NFL Draft because based on their evaluations they believe all of the prospects at the position are similar to LB Anthony Spencer who is already on the roster.
0 Comments | Source: ESPN.com - Dan Graziano | Share:
Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz1shIrxRXN
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This was the source at KFFL (ESPN),
Robert Shipman of Mobile, Ala., a Crimson Tide fan, likes the idea of safety Mark Barron going to the Dallas Cowboys with the No. 14 pick but wonders if the Cowboys might consider outside linebacker Courtney Upshaw instead as a pass-rushing complement to DeMarcus Ware.
DG: From everything I've been told about Dallas' mindset, they have evaluated Upshaw and Melvin Ingram and the other pass-rushers at the top of the draft and decided that they're all pretty much similar players to Anthony Spencer. And since they have Spencer on the franchise tag already, they believe the best way to maximize the value of that pick is to look at other positions. If they drafted Upshaw, it would be because they'd decided to rescind the franchise player designation and let Spencer leave as a free agent, and that doesn't seem a likely course of action. I think if both players were there at 14, they'd take Barron. The question at this point seems to be whether Barron will last that long.
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when were they ever?
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04-21-2012
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It's such a flawed way to go about the draft. You don't factor in the current roster to determine the best way to maximize the pick. You take the best player.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Risen Star
It's such a flawed way to go about the draft. You don't factor in the current roster to determine the best way to maximize the pick. You take the best player.
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In a way that's what they are saying..nobody at OLB is worthy of the 14th pick
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Risen Star
It's such a flawed way to go about the draft. You don't factor in the current roster to determine the best way to maximize the pick. You take the best player.
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The flaw is in your logic.
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Originally Posted by GloryDaysRBack
In a way that's what they are saying..nobody at OLB is worthy of the 14th pick
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Correct.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Risen Star
It's such a flawed way to go about the draft. You don't factor in the current roster to determine the best way to maximize the pick. You take the best player.
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Take Ryan Tannehil if he's there and rated as the best player on our board?
Best Oline for Cowboys:
LT: Free LG: Mankins C: Gurode RG: Holland RT:Young (or an early draft pick)
Hatcher = better overall player than Spears (equal run stopping; better pass rushing)
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Welcome to what I have been saying for months.
Heh. Went back and looked, and as far back as late January, there were posts about whether we should take Ingram or Upshaw and I was taking heat for saying "There is no SOLB worth taking in the top 15. None of them are better than Spencer."
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04-21-2012
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Originally Posted by newnationcb
Take Ryan Tannehil if he's there and rated as the best player on our board?
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Absolutely, if he is.
But he won't be the BPA on our board.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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04-21-2012
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Originally Posted by Woods
Just some media speculation for those interested . . . .
Cowboys | Not expected to take OLB in first round
Sat, 21 Apr 2012 09:19:56 -0700
The Dallas Cowboys are not expected to take an outside linebacker in the first round of the 2012 NFL Draft because based on their evaluations they believe all of the prospects at the position are similar to LB Anthony Spencer who is already on the roster.
0 Comments | Source: ESPN.com - Dan Graziano | Share:
Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz1shIrxRXN
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That doesn't pass litmus test...as Spencer is getting both older and more expensive at just effective, not top shelf. In a 3-4, the OLB MUST dominate the outside influence all the way to the quarterback.
I wonder why the Giants continue to draft top defensive tackles every year?
There's no right way to do the wrong thing.
To compete for the playoffs, Dallas has to improve here: Only four sacks against Eli Manning over the past six games!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CCBoy
That doesn't pass litmus test...as Spencer is getting both older and more expensive at just effective, not top shelf. In a 3-4, the OLB MUST dominate the outside influence all the way to the quarterback.
I wonder why the Giants continue to draft top defensive tackles every year?
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I agree.
And if I were to draft an OLB, it wouldn't be Upshaw at 14.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CCBoy
That doesn't pass litmus test...as Spencer is getting both older and more expensive at just effective, not top shelf. In a 3-4, the OLB MUST dominate the outside influence all the way to the quarterback.
I wonder why the Giants continue to draft top defensive tackles every year?
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Simple answer! They like to win SBs.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CCBoy
That doesn't pass litmus test...as Spencer is getting both older and more expensive at just effective, not top shelf. In a 3-4, the OLB MUST dominate the outside influence all the way to the quarterback.
I wonder why the Giants continue to draft top defensive tackles every year?
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true, but we know what we got, he is a legit SOLB , draftees could bomb.
I agree with the premise that not a single one is better than Spencer as far as the complete package.
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