Who's our best defensive player - Lee or Ware? - Dallas Cowboys Forum

Romo 2 Austin · 09-26-2012

In the pre-season this would've still seemed like a ridiculous question, of course DeMarcus is better than Sean Lee but now after 3 weeks it doesn't seem so ridiculous. Ware is having an outstanding season as per usual but Lee is having an equally outstanding season. At this point I give the edge to Ware but I don't think that will be set in stone come next season. Sean may be out best defensive player at that point.

What does everyone think?

Cowboys&LakersFan · 09-26-2012

Ware, but the gap is closing fast. I don't think Ware has declined at all I just think Sean has gotten so much better.

SilverStarCowboy · 09-26-2012

Ware ... not even close.

GloryDaysRBack · 09-26-2012

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You're foolish if you think it's not close. It's definitely close

**Idgit** · 09-26-2012

I'm on record that I think Lee's on track to be our defensive MVP this year. That hasn't changed in my mind after 3 games.

Cowboys&LakersFan · 09-26-2012

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I'm on record that I think Lee's on track to be our defensive MVP this year. That hasn't changed in my mind after 3 games.

I apologize for saying that comment was ridiculous because I agree with it now.

AdamJT13 · 09-26-2012

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You're foolish if you think it's not close. It's definitely close

It's not close.

If Lee makes one impact play in a game, people point to it and talk about how great he is. If Ware makes one impact play in a game, people point to the other 65 plays and talk about how he disappears.

Lee is the best inside linebacker we've had in a long time and looks like he'll get much better, but he still has a ways to go -- and/or Ware has to decline quite a bit -- before he's on Ware's level as a player.

Ware is an all-time great who is still in his prime. Lee is still trying to get to a Pro Bowl level.

Risen Star · 09-26-2012

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Originally Posted by AdamJT13

It's not close.

If Lee makes one impact play in a game, people point to it and talk about how great he is. If Ware makes one impact play in a game, people point to the other 65 plays and talk about how he disappears.

Lee is the best inside linebacker we've had in a long time and looks like he'll get much better, but he still has a ways to go -- and/or Ware has to decline quite a bit -- before he's on Ware's level as a player.

Ware is an all-time great who is still in his prime. Lee is still trying to get to a Pro Bowl level.

Agreed. Not close at all. It's a ridiculous question to ask.

DeMarcus Ware is the only player in the league that could put up a 14 sack season and people would ask what's wrong with him.

You're used to Ware. You've become numb to his production. Lee's a new guy. His play is more eye opening.

Everlastingxxx · 09-26-2012

Ware is the best defensive player on the team and probably the NFL. The better question would be: which player is more important to this defense? Lee is the quarterback of the defense, makes the calls and gets everyone lined up and makes the most tackles. How many seasons did the Cowboys have horrible defenses WITH a player like Ware? But when Lee plays, the entire defense seems to play better.

GloryDaysRBack · 09-26-2012

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Originally Posted by AdamJT13

It's not close.

If Lee makes one impact play in a game, people point to it and talk about how great he is. If Ware makes one impact play in a game, people point to the other 65 plays and talk about how he disappears.

Lee is the best inside linebacker we've had in a long time and looks like he'll get much better, but he still has a ways to go -- and/or Ware has to decline quite a bit -- before he's on Ware's level as a player.

Ware is an all-time great who is still in his prime. Lee is still trying to get to a Pro Bowl level.

You make a good point on Lee when he makes a great play vs when Ware makes a great play...but Lee makes just as many other plays as ware

Dallas4ever · 09-26-2012

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Originally Posted by AdamJT13

It's not close.

If Lee makes one impact play in a game, people point to it and talk about how great he is. If Ware makes one impact play in a game, people point to the other 65 plays and talk about how he disappears.

Lee is the best inside linebacker we've had in a long time and looks like he'll get much better, but he still has a ways to go -- and/or Ware has to decline quite a bit -- before he's on Ware's level as a player.

Ware is an all-time great who is still in his prime. Lee is still trying to get to a Pro Bowl level.

This is as real as it gets!

Feel free to close this thread and start another to discuss the most under appreciated star in the NFL.

Mr_Bill · 09-27-2012

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Originally Posted by AdamJT13

It's not close.

If Lee makes one impact play in a game, people point to it and talk about how great he is. If Ware makes one impact play in a game, people point to the other 65 plays and talk about how he disappears.

Lee is the best inside linebacker we've had in a long time and looks like he'll get much better, but he still has a ways to go -- and/or Ware has to decline quite a bit -- before he's on Ware's level as a player.

Ware is an all-time great who is still in his prime. Lee is still trying to get to a Pro Bowl level.

OK. I'll use Bob Sturm as a reference again.

http://www.sturminator.blogspot.com/...tampa-bay.html

He records what he calls 'splash' plays. According to him, Ware has 9 so far this season. Lee has 3.

Of course, it is not all about splash or impact plays, and we are lucky to have Sean Lee bolstering our defense, but Ware is one of the greatest players to ever grace the NFL. He is a shoe-in for Ring of Honor and Hall of Fame. Lee might get there, but he is not there yet, and it is doubtful that he will ever reach Ware's level. Few players will.

EMMITTnROY · 09-27-2012

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Originally Posted by AdamJT13

It's not close.

If Lee makes one impact play in a game, people point to it and talk about how great he is. If Ware makes one impact play in a game, people point to the other 65 plays and talk about how he disappears.

Lee is the best inside linebacker we've had in a long time and looks like he'll get much better, but he still has a ways to go -- and/or Ware has to decline quite a bit -- before he's on Ware's level as a player.

Ware is an all-time great who is still in his prime. Lee is still trying to get to a Pro Bowl level.

Thank you for bringing some sanity to this thread. I couldn't believe the replies I was reading. Agreed 100%.

Romo 2 Austin · 09-27-2012

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Originally Posted by AdamJT13

It's not close.

If Lee makes one impact play in a game, people point to it and talk about how great he is. If Ware makes one impact play in a game, people point to the other 65 plays and talk about how he disappears.

Lee is the best inside linebacker we've had in a long time and looks like he'll get much better, but he still has a ways to go -- and/or Ware has to decline quite a bit -- before he's on Ware's level as a player.

Ware is an all-time great who is still in his prime. Lee is still trying to get to a Pro Bowl level.

Lee is all-pro level.. He is leading the league in every stat for ILBs. He has 7 ints since 2010 (his rookie year) most of any LB.

adbutcher · 09-28-2012

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Originally Posted by AdamJT13

It's not close.

If Lee makes one impact play in a game, people point to it and talk about how great he is. If Ware makes one impact play in a game, people point to the other 65 plays and talk about how he disappears.

Lee is the best inside linebacker we've had in a long time and looks like he'll get much better, but he still has a ways to go -- and/or Ware has to decline quite a bit -- before he's on Ware's level as a player.

Ware is an all-time great who is still in his prime. Lee is still trying to get to a Pro Bowl level.