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Biggems · 10-31-2012

Ok.....so we need some help. We need OL. We need DL. We need S. We will most likely need OLB.

We trade down in the 1st and add a 2nd. We trade down in the 2nd and add a 3rd. We trade down in the 4th and add a 5th.

1 - OG Barrett Jones - Alabama
2 - DT Jesse Williams - Alabama
2 - SS Robert Lester - Alabama
3 - DE Ezekial Ansah - BYU
3 - C Khaled Holmes - USC
4 - FB Trey Millard - OU
5 - OT Lane Johnson - OU
5 - OLB Quanterus Smith - Western Kentucky
6 - DT Brandon Williams - Missouri Southern St.

The Realist · 10-31-2012

I think Ansah will be a hot commodity and will rise. I'm not that impressed with him though.

That mock doesn't do enough to help pass rush IMO.

I do think Jerry will do anything early to help OL cuz they love Costa and made investments at G in FA.

TVMan · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by The Realist

I think Ansah will be a hot commodity and will rise. I'm not that impressed with him though.

That mock doesn't do enough to help pass rush IMO.

I do think Jerry will do anything early to help OL cuz they love Costa and made investments at G in FA.

You mean you don't think?

I agree with that notion. Lots of dough is tied up in the oline. Seems like the second round might be feasible.

Here is a good source for a money by depth chart comparison.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/

RS12 · 10-31-2012

Both your 3rd and 5th rounders will be long gone before where you have em. They will draft at least one skill player.

jayhouston12 · 10-31-2012

1 - OG Barrett Jones - Alabama

THIS IS A MUST if he is available.....

jnday · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by jayhouston12

1 - OG Barrett Jones - Alabama

THIS IS A MUST if he is available.....

I like Jones, but I don't see him as a first round pick. He is a jack of all trades, but a master of none. If a first is going to be spent on the line, I want a great lineman at his position, not a lineman that is good at several that might not carry over well to the pros.

xwalker · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by Biggems

Ok.....so we need some help. We need OL. We need DL. We need S. We will most likely need OLB.

We trade down in the 1st and add a 2nd. We trade down in the 2nd and add a 3rd. We trade down in the 4th and add a 5th.

1 - OG Barrett Jones - Alabama
2 - DT Jesse Williams - Alabama
2 - SS Robert Lester - Alabama
3 - DE Ezekial Ansah - BYU
3 - C Khaled Holmes - USC
4 - FB Trey Millard - OU
5 - OT Lane Johnson - OU
5 - OLB Quanterus Smith - Western Kentucky
6 - DT Brandon Williams - Missouri Southern St.

I like the trades.

1 - OG Barrett Jones - Alabama
I would prefer Jonathan Cooper, especially in Callahan's Zone Blocking Scheme. Cooper is as strong as Jones but has much much better quickness/athleticism. Cooper can play center also. Rumors are that Jones' arms are too short to project to OT in the NFL.

2 - DT Jesse Williams - Alabama
They will only carry 2 NTs and I'm happy with Rat and Brent. Williams played 3-4 DE last year, but I'd prefer one of those long (tall with long arms) guys at DE.

If Dion Jordon falls to the 2nd, I'd try to trade up to get him around #33. If not, this might be a more realistic spot for one of your projected 3rd rounders.

Maybe even consider a WR like Tavon Austin or a RB.

2 - SS Robert Lester - Alabama
The 2nd round appears to be a good place for Safeties in this draft.

Too bad Shamarko Thomas isn't a little taller. He is fast and nasty.

3 - DE Ezekial Ansah - BYU
I would love to get this guy in the 3rd. At 6-6, 270, I project him to 3-4 DE for the Cowboys not OLB. He is the long type of DE prospect I referred to earlier.

3 - C Khaled Holmes - USC
I would love to get this player in the 3rd also. I've studied him quite a bit. He's very strong and athletic. Despite reports to the contrary, I thought he was impressive against Lotulelei. He blocked him multiple times one-on-one.

4 - FB Trey Millard - OU
Maybe. I'm undecided about Vickers ability at this point.

5 - OT Lane Johnson - OU
Good, unless Brennan Williams falls to this spot due to injury.

5 - OLB Quanterus Smith - Western Kentucky
Excellent pick here if available. He appears to have the solid build needed at SOLB. I have questions about some the the high rated pass rushers ability to man the Strong Side in RR's defense.

6 - DT Brandon Williams - Missouri Southern St.[/quote]
I love his attitude and work ethic. I've only seen a few highlights, but he appears to have excellent quickness at 6-2 ,328.

Biggems · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by xwalker

I like the trades.

1 - OG Barrett Jones - Alabama
I would prefer Jonathan Cooper, especially in Callahan's Zone Blocking Scheme. Cooper is as strong as Jones but has much much better quickness/athleticism. Cooper can play center also. Rumors are that Jones' arms are too short to project to OT in the NFL.

2 - DT Jesse Williams - Alabama
They will only carry 2 NTs and I'm happy with Rat and Brent. Williams played 3-4 DE last year, but I'd prefer one of those long (tall with long arms) guys at DE.

If Dion Jordon falls to the 2nd, I'd try to trade up to get him around #33. If not, this might be a more realistic spot for one of your projected 3rd rounders.

Maybe even consider a WR like Tavon Austin or a RB.

2 - SS Robert Lester - Alabama
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I love his attitude and work ethic. I've only seen a few highlights, but he appears to have excellent quickness at 6-2 ,328.[/quote]

ty for you comments.....this is the type of response I like....btw, I am not 100% on barrett jones.....it is just that i dont know enough about jonathan cooper yet. i dont really watch UNC anymore.

as for the Jesse Williams pick.....the guy can ball. He is very stout and often disruptive along the LOS. That is something our DL needs. But I agree, that we do need some long DL, especially at the DE position.

xwalker · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by Biggems

ty for you comments.....this is the type of response I like....btw, I am not 100% on barrett jones.....it is just that i dont know enough about jonathan cooper yet. i dont really watch UNC anymore.

as for the Jesse Williams pick.....the guy can ball. He is very stout and often disruptive along the LOS. That is something our DL needs. But I agree, that we do need some long DL, especially at the DE position.

Good discussion, I love draft talk.

I'm not 100% against Jesse Williams. It's just that I like Brent/Rat at NT and I'm not sure that Williams is a great fit at the 5-technique in the Pros.

It's funny, but we draftniks often project 4-3 Linemen to a 3-4, but I actually think Williams, a 3-4 college player, would be great as a 4-3 DT in the Pros.

Oh_Canada · 11-01-2012

Wow-that mock would be ridiculously good. I suspect an athlete like Ansah will be drafted earlier however.

respectdatstar · 11-03-2012

If we are going to draft the entire Alabama roster, why not hire Nick Saban to coach them?

kirkjrk · 11-05-2012

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Originally Posted by xwalker

Good discussion, I love draft talk.

I'm not 100% against Jesse Williams. It's just that I like Brent/Rat at NT and I'm not sure that Williams is a great fit at the 5-technique in the Pros.

It's funny, but we draftniks often project 4-3 Linemen to a 3-4, but I actually think Williams, a 3-4 college player, would be great as a 4-3 DT in the Pros.

Jesse Williams stats this year are one of the worst for DT/NT. When I watch his film he get's taken out of the play quite often. I use cfb.stats for most of my stats and they update within 24 hrs. or less after the game is played. I know stats don't show the whole picture but they are a starting point for me.

Going by stats alone you would be surprised what some of top rated DE/OLB stats are, not impressive. Sam Montgomery,B. Mingo, B. Werner

I think you would enjoy this site for the stats. You may have a site u go to that's as good or better.

xwalker · 11-06-2012

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Originally Posted by kirkjrk

Jesse Williams stats this year are one of the worst for DT/NT. When I watch his film he get's taken out of the play quite often. I use cfb.stats for most of my stats and they update within 24 hrs. or less after the game is played. I know stats don't show the whole picture but they are a starting point for me.

Going by stats alone you would be surprised what some of top rated DE/OLB stats are, not impressive. Sam Montgomery,B. Mingo, B. Werner

I think you would enjoy this site for the stats. You may have a site u go to that's as good or better.

Thanks for the website info.

Biggems · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by xwalker

I like the trades.

1 - OG Barrett Jones - Alabama
I would prefer Jonathan Cooper, especially in Callahan's Zone Blocking Scheme. Cooper is as strong as Jones but has much much better quickness/athleticism. Cooper can play center also. Rumors are that Jones' arms are too short to project to OT in the NFL.

2 - DT Jesse Williams - Alabama
They will only carry 2 NTs and I'm happy with Rat and Brent. Williams played 3-4 DE last year, but I'd prefer one of those long (tall with long arms) guys at DE.

If Dion Jordon falls to the 2nd, I'd try to trade up to get him around #33. If not, this might be a more realistic spot for one of your projected 3rd rounders.

Maybe even consider a WR like Tavon Austin or a RB.

2 - SS Robert Lester - Alabama
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I love his attitude and work ethic. I've only seen a few highlights, but he appears to have excellent quickness at 6-2 ,328.[/quote]

How about this one.....

1 - OG Jonathan Cooper UNC
2 - WR Quinton Patton LT
2 - SS Robert Lester Alabama
3 - DE Ezekial Ansah BYU
3 - C Khaled Holmes USC
4 - OT Lane Johnson OU
5 - OLB Quanterus Smith WKU
6 - DT Brandon Williams MSSU

xwalker · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by Biggems

How about this one.....

1 - OG Jonathan Cooper UNC
2 - WR Quinton Patton LT
2 - SS Robert Lester Alabama
3 - DE Ezekial Ansah BYU
3 - C Khaled Holmes USC
4 - OT Lane Johnson OU
5 - OLB Quanterus Smith WKU
6 - DT Brandon Williams MSSU

I love it, despite the fact that I don't know anything about Patton.

I have not really studied the WRs, but I do really like Cordarrelle Patterson (Tennessee).

Which safeties do you think go before Lester?