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Old 11-25-2012   #1
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Default Why is everybody up in arms?

prior to the season. most fans on this board predicted the cowboys to be 7-9 to a 9-7 team. well, guess what? we are about that at 5-6. is everyone upset because we don't look pretty? did most predict 7-9 and want to see us play like a 12-4 team? a 7-9 team plays ugly, wins ugly, loses ugly. and that's what we are.

we all have said since prior to the draft, we have OL issues. we draft none. sign mid to low level ones in FA, and Lo' and behold, our OL is awful, which is directly impacting our play. and yet everyone complains!!! we are not as talented as we think we are or most fans think we are. we lack in critical areas and even some of the skilled players aren't as good as we think they are, and they don't become super players just because of the star next to their names.

so what do you expect? a 12-4 type team, playing itself to a 7-9 record? and what are we getting on the field? competitive, we have been in almost every game to the end, and lose at the end, because we just aren't that good.
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Folks are upset because the fan in all of us doesn't like to see their team lose– ever.

And even though many of us did predict a 7-9 to 9-7... missing the playoffs is a kick to the gut.

Our team is not going to participate and it hurts.

But looking back on the team and the season (so far) I think many can say, "This team simply isn't good enough– yet." People hate the word "process" and no matter if Garrett stay or goes, Jerry hires a "football guy" or whatever else happens, there simply isn't enough talent across the board to be considered a solid playoff team– yet.

Let's see what the offseason brings.
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Folks are upset because the fan in all of us doesn't like to see their team lose– ever.

And even though many of us did predict a 7-9 to 9-7... missing the playoffs is a kick to the gut.

Our team is not going to participate and it hurts.

But looking back on the team and the season (so far) I think many can say, "This team simply isn't good enough– yet." People hate the word "process" and no matter if Garrett stay or goes, Jerry hires a "football guy" or whatever else happens, there simply isn't enough talent across the board to be considered a solid playoff team– yet.

Let's see what the offseason brings.
If getting rid of 4 starters on your OL in 2 seasons doesn't mean "rebuilding" than consider yourself sucked by Jerry Jones. Even 3 guys from last season was a big red flag.

You don't see that in the NFL at all these days and I can't think of one team that has done that.
"It's little bit like the description of pornography from years back. It's hard to define it. But you know what it is at the end of it. It's hard to define it. I think you know who is more physical. Often times you see that in the fourth quarter. A lot of time the team on the other side feels it. We pride ourselves on being a physical football team. It's important to us. It's an important time of the year to lay that foundation." - Coach Garrett
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If getting rid of 4 starters on your OL in 2 seasons doesn't mean "rebuilding" than consider yourself sucked by Jerry Jones. Even 3 guys from last season was a big red flag.

You don't see that in the NFL at all these days and I can't think of one team that has done that.
That's true.

And two guys will probably be "churned' out of the offensive line after this season.
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That's true.

And two guys will probably be "churned' out of the offensive line after this season.

I have doubt that Free gets released based on his contract.

He looks like he just on an island and doesn't trust himself or the guy next to him.

It might be wise to have a strong veteran presence next to him but also having a backup plan or two should be on the list too.
"It's little bit like the description of pornography from years back. It's hard to define it. But you know what it is at the end of it. It's hard to define it. I think you know who is more physical. Often times you see that in the fourth quarter. A lot of time the team on the other side feels it. We pride ourselves on being a physical football team. It's important to us. It's an important time of the year to lay that foundation." - Coach Garrett
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I have doubt that Free gets released based on his contract.

He looks like he just on an island and doesn't trust himself or the guy next to him.

It might be wise to have a strong veteran presence next to him but also having a backup plan or two should be on the list too.
Did you mean "no doubt" Bluestang?
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We keep getting told that adding in coaching such as Calahan, Robinson will in itself turn around the OLine, the WR crew.............and I dont blame them in entirity as they have done it in the past.....they as coaches have skins on the wall.

There is something between those assistant coaches and the players brought in that is a brick between what should be smoother running cogs in the "process".

I think that is what gets folks fired up, there is something there behind the scenes that just cannot be pinpointed.
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If getting rid of 4 starters on your OL in 2 seasons doesn't mean "rebuilding" than consider yourself sucked by Jerry Jones. Even 3 guys from last season was a big red flag.

You don't see that in the NFL at all these days and I can't think of one team that has done that.
I can't recall any NFL teams that went into rebuilding mode with a franchise qb.
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I can't recall any NFL teams that went into rebuilding mode with a franchise qb.

I can't recall a team with a franchise QB getting rid of 4 starters on the OL in 2 seasons. All 5 starters in 3.

Can you?
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If getting rid of 4 starters on your OL in 2 seasons doesn't mean "rebuilding" than consider yourself sucked by Jerry Jones. Even 3 guys from last season was a big red flag.

You don't see that in the NFL at all these days and I can't think of one team that has done that.
the problem is we replaced them with Jags and expected Callahan to come in and "coach" them up.


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the problem is we replaced them with Jags and expected Callahan to come in and "coach" them up.
They also never played a single snap together in training camp because several of them had injuries along the way.

The intended group only played together for one game this year.

We rolled the dice on the depth and came up short. It was the one thing we couldn't afford and the first injury occurred in the offseason and has continued from there.

Free is the only real disappointment that no one really considered would happen.
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They also never played a single snap together in training camp because several of them had injuries along the way.

The intended group only played together for one game this year.

We rolled the dice on the depth and came up short. It was the one thing we couldn't afford and the first injury occurred in the offseason and has continued from there.

Free is the only real disappointment that no one really considered would happen.
Smiths play hasn't been stellar this year either, now I'm willing to chalk it up to it being his first time playing on that side.
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They also never played a single snap together in training camp because several of them had injuries along the way.

The intended group only played together for one game this year.

We rolled the dice on the depth and came up short. It was the one thing we couldn't afford and the first injury occurred in the offseason and has continued from there.

Free is the only real disappointment that no one really considered would happen.
Depth? we were looking for starters and came up short, which has set the team back again. We are in the same boat we were last season if not worse! we still dont know if Costa is going to step it up and Free has regressed yet again.

Add in all of the other holes this team has we are screwed


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I guess people are upset because their prediction is coming to fruition. Everyone gets mad and wants everyone fired when all they do is pretty much what fans expected them to do.
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I really didn't expect much this season, but I'm frankly shocked at how bad the on the field product is.

Although I thought the Cowboys would finish in the 7-8 win territory this year, I always figured that they were building towards a run in 2013. Now, with the amount of holes this team has...I don't see it. We've got to blow the whole thing up and restart.

Like you said...the team just isn't very good.
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