Barrett Jones, where to play him?

[Manwiththeplan]

Okay, just wondering where we would play him? Let's say, we resign Spencer and sign Knighton/Franklin or any other NT in free agency, someone good enough that we don't have to take a guy in round 1 or 2, but likely not a long term answer. Then let's say we draft a RT in round 1 and he's there in round 2, do we play him at C or RG?

Either way we're stuck playing Costa or Bernadeau, but which one. As bad as Bernadeau's been at times, I wonder if he would be the lesser of two evils, and maybe playing in the same spot next to two better players, would make him better.

[tm1119]

I don't think hes big or strong enough to play OG in the NFL. He's better off at C where he can be used where he is at his best which is on the move in space. He just won't hold up very long if hes doing a lot of 1 on 1 blocking against the bigger DT's in the NFL in my opinion.

[Risen Star]

With Jones I think it depends on which team drafts him. He can be a very good C or G. Where do you need him?

I'd rather him play C here. I want to break up the mediocrity. I don't want Livings playing next to Costa playing next to Bernadeau. You play Jones at RG in this scenario and you'd still have Livings and Bernadeau side by side. I want Jones in the middle of that, capable of helping out either.

[supercowboy8]

No Costa is a free agent he can walk, Jones is a very smart player and person. I want that guy at center.
Also we dont have to have Bern at RG, we can sign a FA like Slauson.

[xwalker]

Originally Posted by supercowboy8

No Costa is a free agent he can walk, Jones is a very smart player and person. I want that guy at center.
Also we dont have to have Bern at RG, we can sign a FA like Slauson.

Do you think Slauson would have any problems moving from LG to RG?

How would you rate Slauson compared to teammate Brandon Moore? Just their ability in 2013. I'm sure Slauson is better long term being 26 compared to Moore being 32.

[supercowboy8]

Originally Posted by xwalker

Do you think Slauson would have any problems moving from LG to RG?

How would you rate Slauson compared to teammate Brandon Moore? Just their ability in 2013. I'm sure Slauson is better long term being 26 compared to Moore being 32.

Slauson is better than Moore and is a better pass protector than Livings. I would be more willing to move Livings to RG and put Slauson at LG.

If we could get Lewman and Jones and sign Slauson then that would be a pretty good OL.
Smith,Slauson,Jones,Living,Lewman

Also in FA add Desmond Bryant and Terrence Knighton and a DE and NT in the 3rd-5th rounds for depth and future.

[Leadbelly]

Originally Posted by supercowboy8

No Costa is a free agent he can walk, Jones is a very smart player and person. I want that guy at center.
Also we dont have to have Bern at RG, we can sign a FA like Slauson.

Costa is restricted. Team can retain him if they want. He can't walk unless the team lets him.

[cowboysooner]

I'd think about Bernadeau at center. There are less one on one blocks there than guard.

[supercowboy8]

Originally Posted by Leadbelly

Costa is restricted. Team can retain him if they want. He can't walk unless the team lets him.

Like I said, let him walk. He was one of the worse centers in the NFL last year and he played in only one game this year. He's worthless.

[Macnalty]

Most NFL teams will consider him a finesse run blocker which will be their excuse not to draft him early. As you know you do not need to out muscle, drive block and dominate physically on every block to be a success at the next level he gets better like Romo in the 4th qtr. This guy can play every line position from Tackle to Center. Played Tackle(last year), Guard(two years ago) and this year Center all on the best team in the nation Alabama. In the SEC Championship in the fourth quarter they ran right up the middle over the DT Jenkins from Georgia who will go in first RD. This guy is going to be good if you just give him one position. He needs to get stronger no debate, if you do not think Woicek is an advantage pass on this guy. He is also the RKG.

[Doc50]

Agreed, RS. We shouldn't try to revamp the entire OL (again) -- but plugging the right guys into the proper slots can make a huge difference. Costa's not bad, but Jones should really excel.

[supercowboy8]

Originally Posted by Doc50

Agreed, RS. We shouldn't try to revamp the entire OL (again) -- but plugging the right guys into the proper slots can make a huge difference. Costa's not bad, but Jones should really excel.

No Costa is bad, did everyone forget last year. Costa played one game vs one of the worse running defenses in the NFL and played just OK.

Last year Costa was ranked as the 28th center in the NFL. Cook is ranked 24th. Not that much difference. Also Costa out all year but one game meaning would he even be healthy next year.

I want a big strong center that has played vs the top college players and knows how to read a defense and is very intelligent. That is Barrett Jones.

[kirkjrk]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

With Jones I think it depends on which team drafts him. He can be a very good C or G. Where do you need him?

I'd rather him play C here. I want to break up the mediocrity. I don't want Livings playing next to Costa playing next to Bernadeau. You play Jones at RG in this scenario and you'd still have Livings and Bernadeau side by side. I want Jones in the middle of that, capable of helping out either.

If we want a Center this year, then it's Jones in 1st or 2nd(if still available) or K. Holmes in the 3rd. Don't see any FAs that will be available that would not be or very little upgrade to Costa. That's hard to imagine.

So in my eyes it's Jones or Holmes or nobody. Things could change before the draft. I do like the idea to trading back to 24th-pick up a 3rd- or back to 30th and pick up a 2nd. If KC would agree we could even trade out of 1st round and get the first pick in the 2nd and first pick in the 3rd. The value of our 1st and their 2nd&3rd would just about equal .

[xwalker]

Originally Posted by Manwiththeplan

Okay, just wondering where we would play him? Let's say, we resign Spencer and sign Knighton/Franklin or any other NT in free agency, someone good enough that we don't have to take a guy in round 1 or 2, but likely not a long term answer. Then let's say we draft a RT in round 1 and he's there in round 2, do we play him at C or RG?

Either way we're stuck playing Costa or Bernadeau, but which one. As bad as Bernadeau's been at times, I wonder if he would be the lesser of two evils, and maybe playing in the same spot next to two better players, would make him better.

IMO, Costa at OC is better than Bernadeau at OG.

In any scenario, I wouldn't play Rookies or 1st year starters side-by-side. If RT is Parnell or a Rookie, then they need to find a veteran to play at RG in 2013. Maybe Livings could move from LG to RG or they could sign an experienced RG like Brandon Moore from the Jets.

If Costa is healthy, then I would put Barrett Jones at LG.

You didn't mention Barrett Jones at OT, but I've heard that scouts expect his arm length to be too short to project to OT in the NFL. Most also feel that his athleticism is not ideal for OT either.