HC candidate X: Back to Back .500 Seasons, Only Prev Exp Is QB Coach: Do you hire him - Dallas Cowboys Forum

Beast_from_East · 01-03-2013

Take the name "Garrett" out of it, do you hire this candidate if you are the GM of one of the 7 teams currently without a HC?

rocyaice · 01-03-2013

It depends. Did he miss half of his starters on defense and had a piss poor offensive line? If we factor that in then yea I definitely would hire him. Garrett didn't underachieve with the unit he had last season. If anything he overachieved.

CopenhagenCowboy · 01-03-2013

Of course not.

blackbull · 01-03-2013

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Originally Posted by rocyaice

It depends. Did he miss half of his starters on defense and had a piss poor offensive line? If we factor that in then yea I definitely would hire him. Garrett didn't underachieve with the unit he had last season. If anything he overachieved.

lol stay consistent man.

Beast_from_East · 01-03-2013

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Originally Posted by rocyaice

It depends. Did he miss half of his starters on defense and had a piss poor offensive line? If we factor that in then yea I definitely would hire him. Garrett didn't underachieve with the unit he had last season. If anything he overachieved.

Garrett didnt underachieve, seriously?

I think Jerry disagrees, he said in his interview that Jason has had full control of the offense for 6 years and for us to have played with a lead only 23% of the season was inexcusable.

Not exactly a vote of confidence from the owner, dont you think.

**Idgit** · 01-03-2013

I wouldn't hire that anonymous candidate for an open job. I would very likely finish implementing his program in the job he had already.

Beast_from_East · 01-03-2013

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I wouldn't hire that anonymous candidate for an open job. I would very likely finish implementing his program in the job he had already.

Jerry didnt sound very pleased with "his program", basically threw said candidate under the bus for the offensive woes of the team.

I think Garrett the OC is getting fired and if Garrett the HC doesnt like it, he can walk.

LatinMind · 01-03-2013

To be fair, Harbaugh was a ST coach and the ravens took a chance and many people questioned it. And it worked out for the ravens. you just never know until you try it

**Idgit** · 01-03-2013

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Originally Posted by Beast_from_East

Jerry didnt sound very pleased with "his program", basically threw said candidate under the bus for the offensive woes of the team.

I think Garrett the OC is getting fired and if Garrett the HC doesnt like it, he can walk.

I think I must have listened to the wrong Jerry interview on dallascowboys.com. He sounded calm and rational to me in the one I listened to today. I was surprised, given how it was characterized in the Jerry-thread.

Kangaroo · 01-03-2013

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Originally Posted by Beast_from_East

Take the name "Garrett" out of it, do you hire this candidate if you are the GM of one of the 7 teams currently without a HC?

Any Reid was just a QB coach and we seen other caoches get snapped up with worse records than that like Mangni.

Once again just because a coach who was not the head coach was on a losing team or a winning team does not mean he can not be a successful head coach.

How many SB winning assistants have we seen flop as a HC.

Overreaction once again

Zordon · 01-03-2013

If Jason Garrett never played for the Cowboys but every other part of his makeup and resume is the same, would he be getting as much leeway as he's getting with some in the fanbase?

Hostile · 01-03-2013

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Originally Posted by Zordon

If Jason Garrett never played for the Cowboys but every other part of his makeup and resume is the same, would he be getting as much leeway as he's getting with some in the fanbase?

He would from me. I see what is being built.

Zordon · 01-03-2013

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He would from me. I see what is being built.

I think you're one of few. I believe Jason gets a lot of leeway from fans and Jerry b/c of his ties to the glory years. Some, myself included, romanticized about a former player returning and bringing some stability to the head coaching position. When I look at Jason Garrett I see a failed head coach but I also still see the 1994 Thanksgiving Game and the Glory Years. To my fault, I cannot separate the two at times.

Hostile · 01-03-2013

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Originally Posted by Zordon

I think you're one of few. I believe Jason gets a lot of leeway from fans and Jerry b/c of his ties to the glory years. Some, myself included, romanticized about a former player returning and bringing some stability to the head coaching position. When I look at Jason Garrett I see a failed head coach but I also still see the 1994 Thanksgiving Game and the Glory Years. To my fault, I cannot separate the two at times.

I don't look at his playing days at all.

stasheroo · 01-03-2013

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Originally Posted by Zordon

I think you're one of few. I believe Jason gets a lot of leeway from fans and Jerry b/c of his ties to the glory years. Some, myself included, romanticized about a former player returning and bringing some stability to the head coaching position. When I look at Jason Garrett I see a failed head coach but I also still see the 1994 Thanksgiving Game and the Glory Years. To my fault, I cannot separate the two at times.

You're not alone.

I've seen plenty of fans with the same sense of fondness and nostalgia and I've seen how it overrides the reality of what is actually happening.