Keep hearing we need a Warren Sapp-type

[blindzebra]

But really what we are missing is our Booger McFarland.

I have always thought Ratliff would be just like Sapp in a 4-3 and with Lissemore being a similar player we have a nice rotation there.

What we don't have is that big booty DT that will keep our LBs clean with Brent likely done playing in the NFL.

[CATCH17]

I think there is a chance Josh Brent is playing next year.

Didn't Leonard Little and Donte Stallworth do the exact same thing?

[JustDezIt]

Originally Posted by CATCH17

I think there is a chance Josh Brent is playing next year.

Didn't Leonard Little and Donte Stallworth do the exact same thing?

I'm pretty sure Donte was suspended for a year. Not exactly the same things tho.

edit: yep. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4396130

and leonard 8 games

"In 1998, when St. Louis defensive end Leonard Little pleaded guilty to involuntary manslaughter in the death of Susan Gutweiler, he received a suspension of eight games without pay. No one asked Gutweiler's son, left motherless after Little decided to drive drunk through the streets of St. Louis, if the ruling was fair."


Brent wont be playing for a while even if he doesn't do a long sentence based on statements Goodell made in the Stallworth case

"There is no question that your actions had tragic consequences to an innocent man and his family, and that you have violated both the Substances of Abuse and Personal Conduct Policies," Goodell continued. "In that respect, you are clearly guilty of conduct detrimental to the integrity of and public confidence in the NFL.

"Your conduct endangered yourself and others, leading to the death of an innocent man. The NFL and NFL players must live with the stain that you have placed on their reputations."

Goodell said he didn't take into account the sentence in determining that Stallworth violated the league's substance abuse and personal conduct policies.

[CowboysYanksLakers]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

But really what we are missing is our Booger McFarland.

I have always thought Ratliff would be just like Sapp in a 4-3 and with Lissemore being a similar player we have a nice rotation there.

What we don't have is that big booty DT that will keep our LBs clean with Brent likely done playing in the NFL.

McFarland wasn't that big though....

[Galian Beast]

Originally Posted by CowboysYanksLakers

McFarland wasn't that big though....

It's what we call revisionist history...

[MonsterD]

People also forget how good Simeon Rice was, he was a top passrusher at that time.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Originally Posted by MonsterD

People also forget how good Simeon Rice was, he was a top passrusher at that time.

Yup when they brought him in in 2001, it transformed that defense.

[Aven8]

Originally Posted by MonsterD

People also forget how good Simeon Rice was, he was a top passrusher at that time.

They also forget what a player Brooks was as well. How many pick 6's has that guy had in his career? One of the best LB's to ever play the game IMO.

[morasp]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

But really what we are missing is our Booger McFarland.

I have always thought Ratliff would be just like Sapp in a 4-3 and with Lissemore being a similar player we have a nice rotation there.

What we don't have is that big booty DT that will keep our LBs clean with Brent likely done playing in the NFL.

I was thinking Ratliff too. In fact he should be better in the 4-3 then in the 3-4. It always seems like they didn't know if he should be a DE or NT. I don't think we would need to use a first round pick to get a wide body at DT.

[xwalker]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

But really what we are missing is our Booger McFarland.

I have always thought Ratliff would be just like Sapp in a 4-3 and with Lissemore being a similar player we have a nice rotation there.

What we don't have is that big booty DT that will keep our LBs clean with Brent likely done playing in the NFL.

McFarland 6-0, 300

Lissemore 6-3, 303

Ratliff (2012) 6-4, 303

[GloryDaysRBack]

negative

our pass rush stinks

combine that with the tamp 2 defense and you have crap for results

we need better pass rushers...we also need that idiot ratliff to stay healthy for a change

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by GloryDaysRBack

negative

our pass rush stinks

combine that with the tamp 2 defense and you have crap for results

we need better pass rushers...we also need that idiot ratliff to stay healthy for a change

Ratliff hasn't been a good player in 3 years. But he's Warren Sapp in 2013.

[AsthmaField]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

Ratliff hasn't been a good player in 3 years. But he's Warren Sapp in 2013.

He will take less of a pounding in the 43 than he did as a 34 NT.

Yes he still played 1-gap at the NT position, but the way offensive lines attacked him will be different from what they do against him in the 43 as a 3tech.

Will it make much of a difference in his performance? I don't know. Could he still be over the hill? Yes. Will he be? I don't know. Could he be rejuvenated playing in a scheme that better suits him? Yes, but we don't know that for sure.

All in all, I'm hoping but not expecting him to play at a pro bowl level again.

[links18]

Could someone explain just what a "Warren Sapp" type player is exactly? If that means we need a really good DT, then yeah we need a Warren Sapp type.

[GloryDaysRBack]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

Ratliff hasn't been a good player in 3 years. But he's Warren Sapp in 2013.

Agreed..

This team is flooded with holes

It's depressing to sit down and try and come up with a way to solve all these holes.