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Old 01-19-2013   #1
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Installed two SATA drives in enclosure connected via firewire to iMac. Will only read. Want to share drives with Windows based so formatted NTFS. Have tried a downloaded utility that's supposed to make them RW but doesn't work. Running Mountain Lion BTW.

In terminal now and typed sudo nano /etc/fstab to get to editor.

Have written in editor
UUID=C440781A-40A9-ACC4-60C4-ACD2ECACD2E4 none ntfs rw
UUID=7866522B-6663-4678-8778-46DA8C46DA86 none ntfs rw

I don't know how to write and save this then exit to restart machine. What do I do from here? Thanks.
Did you know there are only 5000 Snow Leopards in the wild now and they are confined to Central Asia? However, the effective global population (those likely to reproduce) is less than half that number.
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Installed two SATA drives in enclosure connected via firewire to iMac. Will only read. Want to share drives with Windows based so formatted NTFS. Have tried a downloaded utility that's supposed to make them RW but doesn't work. Running Mountain Lion BTW.

In terminal now and typed sudo nano /etc/fstab to get to editor.

Have written in editor
UUID=C440781A-40A9-ACC4-60C4-ACD2ECACD2E4 none ntfs rw
UUID=7866522B-6663-4678-8778-46DA8C46DA86 none ntfs rw

I don't know how to write and save this then exit to restart machine. What do I do from here? Thanks.
You want to write the below into /etc/fstab correct?

UUID=C440781A-40A9-ACC4-60C4-ACD2ECACD2E4 none ntfs rw
UUID=7866522B-6663-4678-8778-46DA8C46DA86 none ntfs rw

1. Make a backup copy of fstab (filesystem tab)
sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab-20130119

2. I am assuming you do not know VI. So use echo to update the file.

sudo echo "UUID=C440781A-40A9-ACC4-60C4-ACD2ECACD2E4 none ntfs rw" >> /etc/fstab
sudo echo "UUID=7866522B-6663-4678-8778-46DA8C46DA86 none ntfs rw" >> /etc/fstab

3. Check the file for the updates.

sudo cat /etc/fstab
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You want to write the below into /etc/fstab correct?

UUID=C440781A-40A9-ACC4-60C4-ACD2ECACD2E4 none ntfs rw
UUID=7866522B-6663-4678-8778-46DA8C46DA86 none ntfs rw

1. Make a backup copy of fstab (filesystem tab)
sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab-20130119

2. I am assuming you do not know VI. So use echo to update the file.

sudo echo "UUID=C440781A-40A9-ACC4-60C4-ACD2ECACD2E4 none ntfs rw" >> /etc/fstab
sudo echo "UUID=7866522B-6663-4678-8778-46DA8C46DA86 none ntfs rw" >> /etc/fstab

3. Check the file for the updates.

sudo cat /etc/fstab
It will not give me permission to write that. I copied and pasted the above into terminal. I also tried doing it one at a time. I hate this ****.
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I am the administrator on the computer BTW but I know nothing.
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I don't have the slightest idea what the heck you guys are talking about.
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Using vi is not easy if you have never used it. Just type the keys in exact sequence we mentioned and you will be good.
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It will not give me permission to write that. I copied and pasted the above into terminal. I also tried doing it one at a time. I hate this ****.
Try apple key-o or ctrl-o to save.

I don't remember if Apple has a ctrl key.
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Installed two SATA drives in enclosure connected via firewire to iMac. Will only read. Want to share drives with Windows based so formatted NTFS. Have tried a downloaded utility that's supposed to make them RW but doesn't work. Running Mountain Lion BTW.

In terminal now and typed sudo nano /etc/fstab to get to editor.

Have written in editor
UUID=C440781A-40A9-ACC4-60C4-ACD2ECACD2E4 none ntfs rw
UUID=7866522B-6663-4678-8778-46DA8C46DA86 none ntfs rw

I don't know how to write and save this then exit to restart machine. What do I do from here? Thanks.
vi / vim always begins in command mode. You can press [Esc] key anytime to return to command mode. Press i to insert text. To save and exit from vi / vim, press [Esc] key and type ZZ
"I just kind of stopped in the middle of a route, which is the worst thing you can do," Ogletree said. "He just told me, 'What were you thinking?' I kind of mumbled something to him and he was like, 'You're stupid.' "

"If we can get the running game going early, that'll open up the passing game for Troy." - Jerry Jones, 11/12/12
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If you are in a vi session then do this:

hit esc key
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Any reason not to use FAT, since that can be read/written natively by both OSes?
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Any reason not to use FAT, since that can be read/written natively by both OSes?
No. Only the size of the files. I have a few large files that are Cowboys games and such. What is the maximum size of a file in the FAT32?

Is it 4 or 3 Gigs?
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No. Only the size of the files. I have a few large files that are Cowboys games and such. What is the maximum size of a file in the FAT32?

Is it 4 or 3 Gigs?
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there is no reason you can't share any size file though. There are plenty of addons that allow linux to read/write NTFS volumes, which is possibly what you need. When I used to dual boot linux I had something setup to allow me to copy to and from NTFS partitions while in linux. I have the same thing going on my hackintosh, but I rarely boot that machine now. You may want to research that a bit.
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there is no reason you can't share any size file though. There are plenty of addons that allow linux to read NTFS volumes, which is possibly what you need. When I used to dual boot linux I had something setup to allow me to copy to and from NTFS partitions while in linux. You may want to research that a bit.
Here is the latest I get:

Actually something changed in 12A43 or 12A50. Preventing writing to the drive from applications. It also removed the ability to look up hidden drives like /Volumes when modifying a shortcut's destination location.

Basically it was a surgical strike against people using native NTFS in Mountain Lion. (especially from GUI side).




I'm running 12C60. I may plug the drives into my old G4 PowerBook and I should be able to recognize and read/write from there but that's not the optimal solution for me.

I did read where you can go into /etc/fstab.hd and change it to ignore the ignore this drive file in there. That's above my pay grade though.
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Here is the latest I get:

Actually something changed in 12A43 or 12A50. Preventing writing to the drive from applications. It also removed the ability to look up hidden drives like /Volumes when modifying a shortcut's destination location.

Basically it was a surgical strike against people using native NTFS in Mountain Lion. (especially from GUI side).




I'm running 12C60. I may plug the drives into my old G4 PowerBook and I should be able to recognize and read/write from there but that's not the optimal solution for me.

I did read where you can go into /etc/fstab.hd and change it to ignore the ignore this drive file in there. That's above my pay grade though.
See my post right above this one. If you plug that enclosure into a windows box and it sees it as 'one logical drive' that is your problem. You have an enclosure emulating software RAID and macintosh OSX doesn't know how to recognize it. There's probably some sort of addon that would allow it to. Have you checked the manufacturer's website?
"I just kind of stopped in the middle of a route, which is the worst thing you can do," Ogletree said. "He just told me, 'What were you thinking?' I kind of mumbled something to him and he was like, 'You're stupid.' "

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So I assume there is no way to connect this to my iMac and use NTFS to both read and write???

I have a network drive Mybookworld which recognizes the drive enclosure when I hook it up to the USB port in the back of the network drive. It will not however open them from my iMac although I've not checked from a Windows computer. I can hook this up to a Windows computer but it will mean using a laptop and keeping it on all the time which I'd rather not do. Is there another way to share this enclosure with its two SATA HDs with my network?
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