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Old 02-09-2013   #1
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Default Is Sensabaugh's base salary guaranteed for 2013?

Is it that cut and dry?
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Old 02-09-2013   #2
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Going by Spotrac,
He received a 4 million SB with an 8 million guaranteed contract.

He also received 2.8 total salary from 2011 and 2012 which would leave 1.2 of his 3.0 million base salary in 2013 guaranteed.

4.0 + 2.8 = 6.8
8.0 - 6.8 = 1.2


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Going by Spotrac,
He received a 4 million SB with an 8 million guaranteed contract.

He also received 2.8 total salary from 2011 and 2012 which would leave 1.2 of his 3.0 million base salary in 2013 guaranteed.

4.0 + 2.8 = 6.8
8.0 - 6.8 = 1.2


http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-co...ld-sensabaugh/
8M Guaranteed

The contract was signed in Dec 2011; therefore, the 2011 base
is not part of the guarantee.

Guaranteed money already paid:
4M Signing Bonus
1.0M 2012 Base
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Total = 5.0M

Guaranteed money remaining to be paid 8M - 5M = 3M.

2013 Base Salary = 3M

2013 Base Salary Guaranteed = Yes.

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If we cut sensy you have to add the ptorated signing bonus and guaranteed money.
The prorated signing bonus will be 2.4 million and has 1.2 left guaranteed. That's a 3.6 cap hit if released. Also you do count 2011 since it wad an extension and is psrt of the length of contract.
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If we cut sensy you have to add the ptorated signing bonus and guaranteed money.
The prorated signing bonus will be 2.4 million and has 1.2 left guaranteed. That's a 3.6 cap hit if released. Also you do count 2011 since it wad an extension and is psrt of the length of contract.
No, just because 2011 is part of the contract, does not mean that it is part of the guaranteed money. They can choose to guarantee any year that they choose and not guarantee any year that they choose. For example, the year 2014 is part of the contract and it is NOT guaranteed.

Including 2011 in the guaranteed money would be meaningless when the contract was signed in December of that year.

The remaining prorated signing bonus is 2.4M. If released as a June 1 player, the cap hit from the remaining prorated signing bonus would be:
2013: 1.2M
2014: 1.2M


They can't split the guaranteed base with a June 1 designation; therefore, adding in the 3M guaranteed base salary, you have:
2013: 4.2M
2014: 1.2M

If they could trade him, then the guaranteed base would go to the new team and his all of his remaining prorated signing bonus would accelerate into the 2013 cap. This would be:
2013: 2.4M

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No, just because 2011 is part of the contract, does not mean that it is part of the guaranteed money. They can choose to guarantee any year that they choose and not guarantee any year that they choose. For example, the year 2014 is part of the contract and it is NOT guaranteed.

Including 2011 in the guaranteed money would be meaningless when the contract was signed in December of that year.

The remaining prorated signing bonus is 2.4M. If released as a June 1 player, the cap hit from the remaining prorated signing bonus would be:
2013: 1.2M
2014: 1.2M


They can't split the guaranteed base with a June 1 designation; therefore, adding in the 3M guaranteed base salary, you have:
2013: 4.2M
2014: 1.2M

If they could trade him, then the guaranteed base would go to the new team and his all of his remaining prorated signing bonus would accelerate into the 2013 cap. This would be:
2013: 2.4M
The only reason the 2014 isn't guarnteed is because after 2013 all 8 million has been paid. 1.2 million left in guarntees and his salary is 3 million in 2013. simple math

where did you get this info because its wrong, You do not put what year is guaranteed and whats not. You guaranteeing 8 million then your first 8 million is all you get. It was an extension not a new contract so that counts in the overall contract. same with Church new contract. They took an extra 2 million hit this year after extending Church.

2011 year counted. He signed a 6 year deal, it was a 5 year extension.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-co...ld-sensabaugh/
see 2011 is part of the 6 years so it counts.
you can't get to his 25 million without adding 2011

8 million guaranteed- 4 million bonus= 4 million
2011 salary 1.8 million
2012 salary 1 million
2011 plus 2012= 2.8 million plus the 4 million = 6.8 million
8 million - 6.8 million= 1.2 million of guaranteed money left
prorated signing bonus has 2.4 million left
800,000 over the next three years
2.4 million plus 1.2 million =3.6 million if cut
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every post gets more depressing. if i have to see this bum one more time in a cowboys uniform....

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