Moneyball - Dallas Cowboys Forum

muck4doo · 02-12-2013

Just saw that movie for the first time last night, and loved it. I'm already a big time A's fan, so I might be(okay, I'm really biased i admit it. I love my A's) biased, but did anyone else love this movie, and what do you think of so many baseball teams going to that model? Do you see the NFL going to that kind of model? The NFL and MLB are so different. The NFL strives for parity, MLB has their rich and poor teams, and that's the way it is going to stay.

RS12 · 02-12-2013

I am big believer in having a good scouting department in any sport. Stats have their uses though. I think my favorite part of the movie is where he catches Giambi having a good time in the club house after a loss and immediately ships him put of town, and they start playing better. My favorite line is "I hate losing more than I like winning".

godofwar · 02-12-2013

Loved that movie. I know it's a little fictionalized , but the story is great. Loved Brad Pitt's performance. I admire the quality it takes to stick with your idea even in the face of failure. I'm a Rangers' fan, and love this movie.

My favorite scene is when Beane, Brand, and the scouts have their final meeting to assemble their FA target board. Beane lays out the plan, and none of the guys gets it. Classic.

FloridaRob · 02-12-2013

I liked the movie. I thought Pitt was great as Billy Beane. I am a big Met fan and could see how the A's played the Mets into thinking Art Howe was this great manager. What a disaster that was. I wonder what Art thinks about the movie.

Muhast · 02-12-2013

I remember when A-Rod signed his first mega deal they were talking about how his contract was worth more money that the entire payroll of 3-4 smaller market MLB teams put together.

**Reality** · 02-13-2013

The concept of "moneyball" would be more compelling if it actually produced real tangible results such as World Series wins. It seems like every year a small market teams does well most of the season only to fade when it matters. I guess if you're a small market team and looking for a way to at least keep fans coming to the games, moneyball is a good system to follow.

/reality

**BrAinPaiNt** · 02-13-2013

It was an OK movie but after I watched it I never got why people thought it was so great or why anyone thought any of the actors did such a great job...I think Jonah was even nominated for an oscar for that movie and after watching it I wondered why.

muck4doo · 02-13-2013

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Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt

It was an OK movie but after I watched it I never got why people thought it was so great or why anyone thought any of the actors did such a great job...I think Jonah was even nominated for an oscar for that movie and after watching it I wondered why.

Take your mind off the point of the movie and look at the acting job they all did. They were wonderful.

**BrAinPaiNt** · 02-13-2013

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Take your mind off the point of the movie and look at the acting job they all did. They were wonderful.

I was not terrible acting job...however in no way did any of them wow me.

Never once while watching that movie did one of them stand out to me as an actor or a character that made me say WOW I am captivated with this character or actor.

For example.

I am a Tarantino fan. When I watched inglorious Basterds I thought it was a good movie and enjoyed it. However Brad Pitts accent in that movie annoyed me after hearing a minute of it. There was good dialogue in the movie, good actions scenes and so on but the minutes the movie started and Christoph Waltz was playing the Col aka Jew Hunter...I was captivated. Every scene he was in had me mesmerized and I thought to my self...I don't know who this guy is but he is simply amazing.

I did not get that feeling what any character in Moneyball. Nor did I like it for an action or comedy movie. It was just an OK drama to me and nothing more.

Now to be fair...It was sooooo hyped up as a great movie and people pimped out Pitt and Jonah as doing a great job in it that I expected a whole lot more and that could have shaped how I felt about it. Rarely does a hyped up movie, live up to the hype.

But still...good, far from great.

muck4doo · 02-13-2013

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Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt

I was not terrible acting job...however in no way did any of them wow me.

Never once while watching that movie did one of them stand out to me as an actor or a character that made me say WOW I am captivated with this character or actor.

For example.

I am a Tarantino fan. When I watched inglorious Basterds I thought it was a good movie and enjoyed it. However Brad Pitts accent in that movie annoyed me after hearing a minute of it. There was good dialogue in the movie, good actions scenes and so on but the minutes the movie started and Christoph Waltz was playing the Col aka Jew Hunter...I was captivated. Every scene he was in had me mesmerized and I thought to my self...I don't know who this guy is but he is simply amazing.

I did not get that feeling what any character in Moneyball. Nor did I like it for an action or comedy movie. It was just an OK drama to me and nothing more.

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Fair enough. I loved it, but also realize not everyone will feel the same way.

Diogenes · 02-13-2013

Good, not great. 6/10

I watched The Fighter the next night and thought it was much better. 8/10

dexternjack · 02-13-2013

Moneyball was a good movie. If you love baseball, it ranks up there but I can see it's other side as well if ya don't like/understand the game.

Baseball is my favorite sport(Mets fan) and I loved it. Dallas Cowboy football is my passion though.

FiveRings · 02-13-2013

After seeing Moneyball a second time, I realized the A's model wasn't as radical as it seemed. Basically they just went after guys that were walk machines with high OBPs. That's a pretty common practice in the MLB these days. Plus it goes along with the old baseball saying a walk is as good as a hit. Still a movie I enjoyed very much, I loved their differing presentations of the games, sometimes they'd show it on radio, then on TV, then live, etc.

AbeBeta · 02-15-2013

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Originally Posted by FiveRings

After seeing Moneyball a second time, I realized the A's model wasn't as radical as it seemed. Basically they just went after guys that were walk machines with high OBPs. That's a pretty common practice in the MLB these days. Plus it goes along with the old baseball saying a walk is as good as a hit. Still a movie I enjoyed very much, I loved their differing presentations of the games, sometimes they'd show it on radio, then on TV, then live, etc.

That's a common practice in the MLB today. Yes. But that makes it not revolutionary?

That's like saying the Beatles weren't anything special because so many bands now sound like them.

Also, you got the simplified for mass audiences version. There's a ton more that went into those decisions

Cowboy Junkie · 02-14-2013

I didnt care for the movie. I thought it made it look like the A's pieced things together in a genius like way and the truth is it was all about scouting their farm system was very deep. even after losing the players they lost they still had one of the best pitching staffs in baseball.

still had a very good starting 9.

on top of this, steriods was rampat in that club house