Is OL really that bad? - Dallas Cowboys Forum

jrcowboys · 02-14-2013

Guys:

Hear me out. I know OL was bad this year, but the question is: Can this group be fixed? Do they have the raw physical talent to get the job done?

Remember the two new OG were hurt all off season and never had a chance to work with S&C coach. Also, OC was hurt all year. In fact the entire OL came together only a week before the season started. Note: also one OG had knee surgery right after the season.

So do we start over or can an off season of healthy folks working with the S&C coach and the OL coach fix the problem? Note: excluding RT (Free, don't know what his problem is).

Disclaimer: I know we need to draft at least one or maybe two OL pretty high in any case.

Thoughts?

JR

SDCowboy85 · 02-14-2013

Yes...

speedkilz88 · 02-14-2013

Jr, (word of advice) DUCK!

DBOY3141 · 02-14-2013

I think they are bad.

I don't think Berny could ever be a very good RG.
I think Free is totally lost at RT and should be gone now.
Costa could be an OK center, if flanked by two good guards.
Livings is ok.
Parnell has potential as a RT.
Leary/Arkin/Killer are unknowns as to where they fit in.

I would hate to go into the new season with only Parnell as the only change.

I think they have to draft at least 1 OL in the top 3 rounds, I hope they go with two.

Doomsday101 · 02-14-2013

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Originally Posted by jrcowboys

Guys:

Hear me out. I know OL was bad this year, but the question is: Can this group be fixed? Do they have the raw physical talent to get the job done?

Remember the two new OG were hurt all off season and never had a chance to work with S&C coach. Also, OC was hurt all year. In fact the entire OL came together only a week before the season started. Note: also one OG had knee surgery right after the season.

So do we start over or can an off season of healthy folks working with the S&C coach and the OL coach fix the problem? Note: excluding RT (Free, don't know what his problem is).

Disclaimer: I know we need to draft at least one or maybe two OL pretty high in any case.

Thoughts?

JR

I think some of the so called parts can be kept but we do need some better talent and then they have to be able to work as a complete unit. OL is not so much about the individual as it is 5 men working in unison.

This past year from Training camp throughout the season Dallas could not keep the starting 5 together while also learning under Callahan and his blocking schemes.

I don't think you will see 2 or 3 new OL players however I do think Dallas will look to add an OL player in the draft.

ethiostar · 02-14-2013

Yes!!!!

LatinMind · 02-14-2013

LT Tyron is really young. There are rookies in the first round who will be older than him. He will be fine.

LG Livings, The weak link of the group IMO. Needs to be replaced

C Costa, In his very limited time you could tell it was nite and day from 2011. He's going to be good. Only question is, can he stay healthy.

RG Bernadeau, He's getting better and i think he could become Kosier type solid.

RT Parnell, IDK here. Dallas has put in time with him and some money with his contract. Id like to see a rookie drafted to challenge.

Little Jr · 02-14-2013

Its not as bad as many on here to make it out to be.

Boys122 · 02-14-2013

Well, there's Tyron Smith, then there's a row of turds. So, yeah, we're that bad.

Hoofbite · 02-14-2013

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Originally Posted by Little Jr

Its not as bad as many on here to make it out to be.

No, it's every bit as bad as it's made out to be.

When several players have more rushing yards than your entire team, your OL is horrible.

The fact that Romo last the entire season is a miracle and statement to both his toughness and ability to escape pressure. He rightfully could have been knocked out of the Tampa game after Bernadette basically did nothing to block the man in front of him and the defender hit Romo as hard you're likely to see with significant helmet contract involved.

The OL is bad.

Frozen700 · 02-14-2013

Oh.....so you didn't watch the games last year?

rwalters31 · 02-14-2013

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Originally Posted by Little Jr

Its not as bad as many on here to make it out to be.

You are wrong! It is that bad! So bad that Romo is dead man walking just waiting for the time to go down with an injury. Neeeeeeeed three OL in the center of line.

jason54858 · 02-14-2013

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Originally Posted by LatinMind

LT Tyron is really young. There are rookies in the first round who will be older than him. He will be fine.

LG Livings, The weak link of the group IMO. Needs to be replaced

C Costa, In his very limited time you could tell it was nite and day from 2011. He's going to be good. Only question is, can he stay healthy.

RG Bernadeau, He's getting better and i think he could become Kosier type solid.

RT Parnell, IDK here. Dallas has put in time with him and some money with his contract. Id like to see a rookie drafted to challenge.

Im assuming you got the Livings/ Bernadeau opinion reversed. I'm I wrong?

DABOYZ · 02-14-2013

O-line is bad but the playcalling doesn't help. Can't constantly run vertical routes with holes in the line.

FuzzyLumpkins · 02-14-2013

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Originally Posted by DABOYZ

O-line is bad but the playcalling doesn't help. Can't constantly run vertical routes with holes in the line.

Yeah all we did was run deep posts and go patterns....

I must have been deluded when I saw a ton of hitches, slants, comebacks and the like to Dez, Witten and Austin.