Go Back   Dallas Cowboys Forum - CowboysZone.com > Other Forums > Archive Forums > 2004 Archives

Cowboys Chat: 0 user(s) online


Home  |  Fan Zone  |  News Zone  |  Draft Zone  |  Off-topic Zone  |  Forum Rules  |  Chat  |  ** Change Graphics **

 
 
Display Modes Thread Tools
Old 05-29-2005   #1
kaboy
Senior Member
 
Joined:
May 2005
Location:
Posts:
149
Default Mini Camp Inside Day Two

Sorry if this was already posted but I didn't see it. Lots of goodies to comment on here.

http://cowboys.scout.com/2/382750.html
• NFL rosters, of course, never lie. The Cowboys list reserve RB Anthony Thomas at 228 pounds, the same weight at which he was listed last year as a member of the Chicago Bears. But several observers at Saturday's practice agreed that he looks more slender. Several on-lookers guestimated his weight loss in the range of 10-15 pounds. He also looks quicker and more agile than he did with the Bears.

• While the Cowboys drew raves for the offseason acquisitions -- free agency brought DT Jason Ferguson, OL Marco Rivera and CB Anthony Henry, and the team was widely lauded for having among the best drafts in the NFL -- one position at which the Cowboys didn't sign or draft a new player was wide receiver. It's not as if the team is without talent at the position. The professional résumés of Keyshawn Johnson and Terry Glenn speak for themselves, and many feel Patrick Crayton and Terrance Copper have bright futures. But there are some who thought the team would benefit from adding another speed receiver. If Saturday's workouts are any indication, the team might have lucked out. Ahmad Merritt, a fourth-year WR out of Wisconsin the Cowboys signed from the Chicago Bears, stood out in Saturday's practices. Glenn and Tom Crowder might be the only WRs with equal speed, and he uses his speed and athleticism well to gain separation from DBs. Early in the morning workout, Merritt ran a deep crossing route, blew past a DB and adjusted to a Drew Henson pass that sailed behind him. After creating space between himself and a pair of DBs, he leaped high into the air and twisted around to snag the ball .... and retained his balance when he landed.

• If Merritt doesn't turn out to be a new deep threat for the Cowboys, another option is rookie UFA Jamaica Rector. Standing 5-10 (like Merritt) and six pounds lighter than Merritt (who is listed at 195). A head-turner at the team's rookie mini-camp last month, Rector has continued his impressive performance, using exceptional quickness and elusiveness to get open and surprisingly strong hands to make catches, both the routine and occasionally the extraordinary. Playing a position at which several spots already are locked up, Rector has to be considered a longshot to make the team, but he clearly has opened some eyes (including as a punt returner).

• When he was drafted last year out of Boston College, TE Sean Ryan was touted by head coach Bill Parcells as a promising target, a strong blocker whose coach said he needed to run better routes to become a more effective receiving target in the passing game. It appears Ryan listened to his head coach. He always had good hands, but has run better routes over the first two days. In Saturday's morning workout, Ryan ran a deep route, spun Pro Bowl S Roy Williams with a series of fakes and cuts and then outraced Williams to the corner of the end zone, where he caught a touchdown strike from QB Tony Romo.

• In the same passing drill, rookie S Justin Beriault showed the importance of finishing what he starts. Badly beaten by TE Dan Campbell on a deep route over the middle, Beriault caught up to the veteran tight end as he was about to coast across the goal line, and stripped the ball, knocking it to the turf.

• Much is expected of high draft choices such as Demarcus Ware and Marcus Ware. However, being selected in the first round of the draft doesn't automatically mean immediate success. Ware made many plays with his raw athleticism, but was thrown around by RT Kurt Vollers in pass rushing drills and manhandled by LT Flozell Adams. (Adams later underscored the notion that size does, in fact matter when he grabbed LB Kalen Thornton in a headlock and drove him all the way off the practice field. Kind of looked like Adams was making sure his little brother knew who was boss.) Ware also had mixed success in coverage, knocking away a few passes but also getting spun all the way around and left behind by free agent RB Tyson Thompson.

• The morning workout was interrupted by rain, forcing the Cowboys could go inside the team's indoor practice facility adjacent to the practice fields. The indoor field actually is the same field that was used when the team had its training camp in San Antonio. The turf was ripped up and moved to Valley Ranch three years ago, where it was used (albeit uncovered) for a season before the plastic "building" was erected over it two years ago. The structure looks like either the world's largest tool shed or an angular Michelin Man with a huge blue star on his triangular "forehead."

• More players have been added to the list of those hoping to return punts and kickoffs for the Cowboys. DB Jacques Reeves, RB Anthony Thomas, RB Marion Barber, WR Zuriel Smith, RB Thyson Thompson, CB Nathan Jones, CB Bruce Thornton and WR Jamaica Rector all took their turns returning kicks -- under the close scrutiny of head coach Bill Parcells -- as did one somewhat surprising candidate: free agent CB Aaron Glenn.

• Kalen Thornton was the first player to fill the traditional "hybrid" (DE/OLB) role that Parcells seems to like to have on his 3-4 defense. Demarcus Ware is expected to fill similar roles, and a third player worked with both groups: Eric Ogbogu. The eighth-year Maryland product, who heretofore has played exclusively at DE, worked with the OLBs Saturday. As should have been expected, he had more success in pass rushing drills than when dropping into coverage.

• There are some coaches who find themselves intrigued by the athleticism of players from other sports trying their hand on the gridiron. Parcells is giving one such player a chance: Reggie Love is a 6-4, 224-pound OLB who last played played forward on the Duke basketball team. At times, he looked like a basketball player on the field, taking poor angles in pursuit. But the athleticism is evident. On one play, he lined up in coverage on RB Tyson Thompson, who boasts exceptional speed. Thompson blew past Love, who got caught in a poor pursuit angle. But Love gave chase, turned and tipped the ball up in the air before making the interception. No truth to the rumor that Parcells will add Mike Krzyzewski to his scouting staff.

• Among those in attendance at Saturday's afternoon workout: former DE Charles Haley.

• How's this for job security? Clinton Greathouse is a punter from Texas Tech, hoping to take incumbent Mat McBriar's job. Maybe he will, maybe he won't. But at the end of practice Saturday, when the team worked on punts, the coaches assembled two offensive lines side by side to snap the ball and simulate blocking. While Greathouse stood and watched, McBriar punted, then ran over behind the other line and punted again. The drill went on for more than 15 minutes, with McBriar taking every snap.

• As players establish themselves as professionals, their goals change. For many young players, simply making the team seems like the ultimate goal. Then the priority becomes earning a starting spot, or reaching certain statistical (or financial) goals, or making a Pro Bowl or winning a Super Bowl. TE Jason Witten's top priority clearly is appearing on TheRanchReport.com. On an afternoon passing drill, Witten screwed S Roy Williams into the ground and cruised under a 40-yard pass from QB Drew Bledsoe, racing into the end zone … and directly at TheRanchReport.com photographer/editor Roy Philpott, who snapped a barage of rapid-fire pictures before backpedaling faster than Deion Sanders in a tackling drill. Before turning around to head back toward the huddle, Witten looked right at the camera and yelled "Y'all get a picture of THAT?"
kaboy is offline  

Old 05-29-2005   #2
jamez25
Senior Member
 
jamez25's Avatar
 
Joined:
Apr 2004
Location:
Posts:
1,606
Default

thanks for the info !

My favorite channel.
jamez25 is offline  
Old 05-29-2005   #3
KDWilliams85
Senior Member
 
KDWilliams85's Avatar
 
Joined:
Mar 2005
Location:
Posts:
713
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kaboy


• If Merritt doesn't turn out to be a new deep threat for the Cowboys, another option is rookie UFA Jamaica Rector. Standing 5-10 (like Merritt) and six pounds lighter than Merritt (who is listed at 195). A head-turner at the team's rookie mini-camp last month, Rector has continued his impressive performance, using exceptional quickness and elusiveness to get open and surprisingly strong hands to make catches, both the routine and occasionally the extraordinary. Playing a position at which several spots already are locked up, Rector has to be considered a longshot to make the team, but he clearly has opened some eyes (including as a punt returner).

That very comment is why Pete Hunter is getting flak from everyone on here. He's in a loaded position with nowhere to go. Him being suggested as being a free safety is demoralizing.

But anyway... I'd rather have this UFA Rector over Ahmed Merritt.
KDWilliams85 is offline  
Old 05-29-2005   #4
Hostile
Right Kind of Guy
 
Joined:
Apr 2004
Posts:
117,253
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kaboy

http://cowboys.scout.com/2/382750.html

• In the same passing drill, rookie S Justin Beriault showed the importance of finishing what he starts. Badly beaten by TE Dan Campbell on a deep route over the middle, Beriault caught up to the veteran tight end as he was about to coast across the goal line, and stripped the ball, knocking it to the turf.
I hope we see a lot more of that. I miss seeing our defense cause turnovers.

Quote:
• As players establish themselves as professionals, their goals change. For many young players, simply making the team seems like the ultimate goal. Then the priority becomes earning a starting spot, or reaching certain statistical (or financial) goals, or making a Pro Bowl or winning a Super Bowl. TE Jason Witten's top priority clearly is appearing on TheRanchReport.com. On an afternoon passing drill, Witten screwed S Roy Williams into the ground and cruised under a 40-yard pass from QB Drew Bledsoe, racing into the end zone … and directly at TheRanchReport.com photographer/editor Roy Philpott, who snapped a barage of rapid-fire pictures before backpedaling faster than Deion Sanders in a tackling drill. Before turning around to head back toward the huddle, Witten looked right at the camera and yelled "Y'all get a picture of THAT?"
Nice of old Roy to use the 3rd person and include himself in the article.
Hostile is offline  
Old 05-29-2005   #5
jksmith269
Proud Navy Veteran 1990-1995
 
Joined:
Mar 2005
Location:
Posts:
3,898
Send a message via Yahoo to jksmith269
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hostile
I hope we see a lot more of that. I miss seeing our defense cause turnovers.

Nice of old Roy to use the 3rd person and include himself in the article.
Roy takes credit for his articles which I'm sure you know and according to the actual article he didn't write it. Do you know him\of him?

Someone named Steve Lansdale wrote it. BTW anyone know what happened to Reggie Harrell? I liked him more than these other guys.
jksmith269 is offline  
Old 05-29-2005   #6
Hostile
Right Kind of Guy
 
Joined:
Apr 2004
Posts:
117,253
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jksmith269
Roy takes credit for his articles which I'm sure you know and according to the actual article he didn't write it. Do you know him\of him?

Someone named Steve Lansdale wrote it. BTW anyone know what happened to Reggie Harrell? I liked him more than these other guys.
Roy's a good guy. Just gets a little too upset when he gets free advertising.

I don't know him personally, but I've known of him for a couple of years.
Hostile is offline  
Old 05-29-2005   #7
jksmith269
Proud Navy Veteran 1990-1995
 
Joined:
Mar 2005
Location:
Posts:
3,898
Send a message via Yahoo to jksmith269
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hostile
Roy's a good guy. Just gets a little too upset when he gets free advertising.

I don't know him personally, but I've known of him for a couple of years.
My bad I ment do you know the guy who wrote the article? You had told me how you know of Roy. Sorry My mistake I put that "do you know him\of him" in the wrong place I ment for it to go after the author's name.
jksmith269 is offline  
Old 05-29-2005   #8
Hostile
Right Kind of Guy
 
Joined:
Apr 2004
Posts:
117,253
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jksmith269
My bad I ment do you know the guy who wrote the article? You had told me how you know of Roy. Sorry My mistake I put that "do you know him\of him" in the wrong place I ment for it to go after the author's name.
I know nothing of Steve Landsdale. Don't believe I've ever seen the name before. He apparently knows who butters his bread though. Put the boss in the article.
Hostile is offline  
Old 05-29-2005   #9
LaTunaNostra
He Made the Difference
 
LaTunaNostra's Avatar
 
Joined:
Apr 2004
Location:
Posts:
14,987
Default

Good stuff, kaboy! great to read the "never quit" Beriault blurb, and as a BC alum, happy about the news on Ryan!!
LaTunaNostra is offline  
Old 05-29-2005   #10
big dog cowboy
THE BIG DOG
 
big dog cowboy's Avatar
 
Joined:
Apr 2004
Location:
Posts:
42,812
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kaboy
• NFL rosters, of course, never lie. The Cowboys list reserve RB Anthony Thomas at 228 pounds, the same weight at which he was listed last year as a member of the Chicago Bears. But several observers at Saturday's practice agreed that he looks more slender. Several on-lookers guestimated his weight loss in the range of 10-15 pounds. He also looks quicker and more agile than he did with the Bears.
Funny how changing teams can do this players. It should be interesting to see what he can do in preseason.

This is a team who is battling several major injuries to
key players including Pro Bowl talents like Lee, Austin, Jenkins, Murray,
Carter and Ratliff. Other key starters missing include Costa, Smith, Church and
Coleman. That is 11 key players - that's half the starting lineup. Yet we still went 8-8.
big dog cowboy is offline  
Old 05-29-2005   #11
Ken
Senior Member
 
Joined:
Apr 2004
Location:
Posts:
2,831
Default

Nice to know RW has worked on his coverage skills this offseason!

Ken is offline  
Old 05-29-2005   #12
DanTanna
Original Zone Member
 
DanTanna's Avatar
 
Joined:
Apr 2004
Location:
Posts:
2,002
Default

Anthony Thomas is our short yardage guy. I hope he doesn't get too skinny.
DanTanna is offline  
Old 05-29-2005   #13
LeonDixson
Illegitimi non carborundum
 
LeonDixson's Avatar
 
Joined:
Apr 2004
Location:
Posts:
9,086
Default

Overall, I really enjoyed the article because of the mini-camp news and reviews.
I notice that Quincy Morgan wasn't even mentioned among the WRs. I thought he had Glenn type speed too. The author better learn Spears' last name though.

Quote:
Much is expected of high draft choices such as Demarcus Ware and Marcus Ware. However, being selected in the first round of the draft doesn't automatically mean immediate success. Ware made many plays with his raw athleticism, but was thrown around by RT Kurt Vollers in pass rushing drills and manhandled by LT Flozell Adams. (Adams later underscored the notion that size does, in fact matter when he grabbed LB Kalen Thornton in a headlock and drove him all the way off the practice field. Kind of looked like Adams was making sure his little brother knew who was boss.) Ware also had mixed success in coverage, knocking away a few passes but also getting spun all the way around and left behind by free agent RB Tyson Thompson.
edit: Jimz beat me to it by a few seconds

mahalo nui loa, Juke

LeonDixson is offline  
Old 05-29-2005   #14
Jimz31
The Sarcastic One
 
Jimz31's Avatar
 
Joined:
Apr 2004
Location:
Posts:
14,113
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kaboy
• Much is expected of high draft choices such as Demarcus Ware and Marcus Ware.
Wow....two by almost the same name.
Jimz31 has spoken....you may now close the thread.

"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us; they can't get away this time!" -- Lt. Col. Puller, USMC
Jimz31 is offline  
Old 05-29-2005   #15
Natedawg44
Senior Member
 
Natedawg44's Avatar
 
Joined:
Apr 2004
Location:
Posts:
2,598
Default

Anyone think Crayton and Copper may be battling for the same spot on the final roster?
I had an apartment and I had a neighbor, and whenever he would knock on my wall I knew he wanted me to turn my music down and that made me angry 'cause I like loud music... so when he knocked on the wall, I'd mess with his head. I'd say, "Go around! I cannot open the wall! I dunno if you have a doorknob on your side but over here there's nothin'. It's just flat."

Mitch Hedberg RIP
Natedawg44 is offline  
 


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:53 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
© 2004-2012 CowboysZone.com