Dorsett on Julius - Dallas Cowboys Forum

rcaldw · 09-28-2005

Saw Dorsett on 4 Quarters yesterday and he said something interesting about Julius Jones. In fact, Dorsett even prefaced it by saying "Julius if you see this", and then he said, that Jones is running too tentative worried about fumbling. Said he keeps two hands (arms) on the ball too much, needs to get back to just instinctive, fluid running. He said that he knows Parcells hates for backs to put the ball on the ground, and that running backs hate it just as much, but implied that Parcell's obsession with it has Julius not running as fluid in traffic.

jksmith269 · 09-28-2005

Good observation IMO

Sportsbabe · 09-28-2005

I saw the piece. It was great ... especially coming from somebody who knows a thing or two about Cowboys running backs. He also said Julius is taking too much of the load (which Bill is trying to correct).

rcaldw · 09-28-2005

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I saw the piece. It was great ... especially coming from somebody who knows a thing or two about Cowboys running backs. He also said Julius is taking too much of the load (which Bill is trying to correct).

It was a great piece, and man I hope I look as good as Dorsett when I'm 51 years old. The guy looks like he could still play. I asked my 12 year old son, how old do you think he looks? He said 38, and I would agree with that. No way he looks 51.

joseephuss · 09-28-2005

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It was a great piece, and man I hope I look as good as Dorsett when I'm 51 years old. The guy looks like he could still play. I asked my 12 year old son, how old do you think he looks? He said 38, and I would agree with that. No way he looks 51.

I agree. Especially compared to Earl Campbell who I believe is a year younger. I ran into Earl about 4 years ago when I ate at his restaurant(I think it is now closed). He looked old and beat up.

Julius did fumble the ball when he had it covered with both arms, so I hope he does focus on not coughing it up.

I am happy with his production so far. There haven't always been open holes and when there are, he bursts through them. There is just a difference in him as the starting running back compared to where Dallas was last year with Eddie George and the year before with Hambrick or heck Emmitt's last couple of seasons. The stats may look similar right now as far as yards per carry, but you can just tell that defenses know hey have to do whatever they can to slow down the Cowboys running game. I feel like he can burst through for a long gain where as I didn't feel that at all the last several years.

THEHEREAFTER · 09-28-2005

I think everyone is overreacting to 93, 81 and 85 yard games. Unfortunately we've been placed in come from behind situations in all three games. I think this has a lot to do with JJ's results so far. I think he'll be just fine. Everyone remembers the Seattle/NYG/and Bears games from last year.... those types of games will come.. remember he had some modest games last year vs. N.O. and Philly as well.

diehard2294 · 09-28-2005

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I think everyone is overreacting to 93, 81 and 85 yard games. Unfortunately we've been placed in come from behind situations in all three games. I think this has a lot to do with JJ's results so far. I think he'll be just fine. Everyone remembers the Seattle/NYG/and Bears games from last year.... those types of games will come.. remember he had some modest games last year vs. N.O. and Philly as well.

yes but this is not about numbers ,rather his running style so far. If you take a modest game from last year and compare it to say last weeks game, I believe you would see the difference

dwmyers · 09-28-2005

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I think everyone is overreacting to 93, 81 and 85 yard games. Unfortunately we've been placed in come from behind situations in all three games. I think this has a lot to do with JJ's results so far. I think he'll be just fine. Everyone remembers the Seattle/NYG/and Bears games from last year.... those types of games will come.. remember he had some modest games last year vs. N.O. and Philly as well.

85 x 16 = 1360 yards, which would be a huge improvement over the last couple years.

BlueWave · 09-28-2005

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I think everyone is overreacting to 93, 81 and 85 yard games. Unfortunately we've been placed in come from behind situations in all three games. I think this has a lot to do with JJ's results so far. I think he'll be just fine. Everyone remembers the Seattle/NYG/and Bears games from last year.... those types of games will come.. remember he had some modest games last year vs. N.O. and Philly as well.

It's not just the end yardage, he simply does not look anything like he did last season. He's not as quick and does not have the same shiftyness he had last season. Everything about the way he runs is no where near what it was last season. He simply looks like an average NFL starting RB to this point. Last season, he looked like a top five back.

I didn't realize just how average Jones looked until I saw Tomlinson play right after him. Worlds apart. Simply worlds apart. Last seasons Jones was closer, but this season, Tomlinson is in another league.

I just don't know what happened but hopefully he finds it again.

lurkercowboy · 09-28-2005

Dorsett fumbled as much as any back, but he did not deserve his reputation as a fumbler.

rcaldw · 09-28-2005

Dorsett might be the most underrated of the great backs of NFL history. I personally think that an argument could be made for him as the greatest pure runner the NFL has ever seen. I know that is high praise, and certainly debatable, but I really believe it. I slowed down and reran his 99 yard TD footage, and at one point he was surrounded by 4 Vikings players, SURROUNDED.

Tony hit the next gear, cut to the right and the rest was history.

JeffInDC · 09-28-2005

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Dorsett might be the most underrated of the great backs of NFL history. I personally think that an argument could be made for him as the greatest pure runner the NFL has ever seen. I know that is high praise, and certainly debatable, but I really believe it. I slowed down and reran his 99 yard TD footage, and at one point he was surrounded by 4 Vikings players, SURROUNDED.

Tony hit the next gear, cut to the right and the rest was history.

You forgot to mention the one aspect of that play that made even more spectacular: Dallas had 10 men on the field. I'll never forget Gifford and Co. talking about how amazed they were that he basically ran 99 yard w/ no help.

**Sarge** · 09-28-2005

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Dorsett might be the most underrated of the great backs of NFL history. I personally think that an argument could be made for him as the greatest pure runner the NFL has ever seen. .

That would belong to Eric Dickerson.

rcaldw · 09-28-2005

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That would belong to Eric Dickerson.

Sarge, I loved Dickerson too (not as much as Dorsett) but you are right about one thing, you almost NEVER hear him mentioned in the discussion of all time greatest, and I think he was better than most of the guys regularly mentioned.

fiveandcounting · 09-28-2005

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Sarge, I loved Dickerson too (not as much as Dorsett) but you are right about one thing, you almost NEVER hear him mentioned in the discussion of all time greatest, and I think he was better than most of the guys regularly mentioned.

I agree